I am constantly concerned that the average person has no idea what or who a Stellantis is. Every previous iteration of the company had Chrysler in the name somewhere (FiatChrysler, Daimler Chrysler, Chrysler Corp.), so I’m left writing CDJR in many headlines for The Morning Dump because, for most Americans, that’s how the brand’s dealers represent themselves. All that being said, whether you’re talking about CDJR or Stellantis, the news today is awful.
Like, $2.7 billion awful. This is the inevitable result of poor decision-making from the previous leadership of Stellantis, combined with bad timing. Is it the bottom for Stellantis? Possibly. Turning around a company this big is a bit like one of SWG’s restorations, where the first few steps feel more like going backwards than forwards.


In life, the grass is always greener on the other side, but sometimes that’s because your neighbors just spray-painted that ish. For example, one Chinese brand that seemed to be rising while Stellantis was falling might have made up half of its sales using the “zero-mileage used car” trick.
Japanese automakers, too, seemed in an enviable position until recently. The tariff question has thrown Japanese politics into a bit of disarray, and the results were ultimately mixed. The EU has less of a political problem at this exact moment in time, and is either going to cut a deal with the Trump Administration or push for harsher retaliatory actions against the United States.
What’s Happened To Stellantis?

I don’t take much pleasure in being right, more than a year ago, about Stellantis being a company that essentially doomed itself with short-term decision-making, which resulted in immediate profits at the expense of long-term viability. Then-CEO Carlos Taveres, pictured above enjoying his millions of dollars, may be the only person who did well because of this approach (a result of a compensation package that made no sense).
When I wrote that piece, Stellantis was talking about huge profits. It was clear to car enthusiasts that this was a mirage. The company was squeezing the last money it could out of old platforms in North America, with no obvious direction and few incentives. The pandemic gave the company’s aging cars a new life as people were desperate to buy anything new and, by and large, anything was all Stellantis had to sell on this side of the Atlantic.
To its credit, Stellantis inevitably reorganized and ditched Tavares for a CEO who knows something about the North American market. Instead of building more EVs that no one seems to want, the company is shifting focus back to V8-powered Rams and hybrids. Some of the execs who fled the automaker during the Tavares regime are slowly coming back.
The question is: Has Stellantis reached the bottom? Is the first half of 2025 the harbinger of things to come or the nadir?
Even before the company’s full financials are published next week, a preliminary figure was released to basically warn everyone that it’s not going to be great. Specifically, the company said that it expects it has already lost $2.7 billion through the first half of the year.
A lot of this has to be blamed on the specific cars the company is (or isn’t) selling, with deliveries down 25% year-over-year in Q2 in North America. So what’s going on? Here’s how the company describes its current predicament:
- The early stage of actions being taken to improve performance and profitability, with new products expected to deliver larger benefits in the Second Half of 2025
- Approximately €3.3 billion of pre-tax net charges, primarily related to program cancellation costs and platform impairments, net impact of the recent legislation eliminating the CAFE penalty rate, and restructuring, which are excluded from Adjusted Operating Income(3) consistent with the Company’s definition of AOI
- Adverse impacts to AOI from higher industrial costs, geographic and other mix factors, and changes in foreign exchange rates
- The early effects of US tariffs – €0.3 billion of net tariffs incurred as well as loss of planned production related to implementation of the Company’s response plan
Just FYI, AOI is “Adjusted Operating Income,” and is how the company describes its income net of certain types of expenses like interest. A lot of this is focused on North America, because North America is historically where the company made its money (while hoping to not lose too much in Europe).
While tariffs were not necessarily in place for all of the quarter, there are “early effects” noted. The biggest issue here might not be the actual tariff costs but the fact that the company has to reorganize its production. That was going to happen anyway as mentioned in the first bullet point; it’s just happening faster now. There’s also the usual mix of input costs and currency fluctuation.
Did you notice something strange here? The “net impact of the recent legislation eliminating the CAFE penalty rate” bit?
Everyone knows that Congress getting rid of CAFE penalties was to the benefit of automakers, but this is the first time I’ve seen this come up in an investor press release. If I’m reading this correctly, it’s basically admitted that it’ll cost money upfront to retool to build more V8-powered trucks and other vehicles, but ultimately that’ll be worth it for the automaker as it saves money on penalties.
I have mixed feelings about this, even if the logic is sound. Perhaps this is really the bottom for Stellantis.
China’s ‘Zero Mileage Used Car’ Scandal Gets Even Worse

Back in 2022, Neta seemed like one of the biggest and most promising electric car companies in the budding Chinese EV industry. This summer, the company filed for bankruptcy. What happened?
In addition to being caught in a brutal price war, Neta was reportedly one of the worst abusers of the “zero mileage used car” practice that’s been upending an already unstable car market in China. The short of it is that automakers, in varying ways, will register a car as being sold by passing it through a dealer or another company. That way, the company can get incentives and mark the car “sold” even if there’s no buyer for it, with the vehicle then later being sold as a used car.
Many of China’s biggest brands have been popped for allegedly doing this, but Neta might be the most egregious. There’s a big exclusive report from Reuters that singles out Neta and Geely-owned Zeekr, but I’m focusing on Neta because it’s wild stuff:
Neta booked sales early by arranging insurance policies for cars before sending them to dealers, according to records shared with Reuters and a dealer for the brand.The records contain details for each car and the insurance policies purchased on them, with the names of the insurance agents. Dealers were able to refer to these when they found a buyer to transfer the policy to, according to copies seen by Reuters. The company booked early sales of 64,719 cars this way.“In Neta’s case, the company made it clear to dealers that the cars were insured ahead of time and therefore counted as sold,” said the dealer, who spoke on condition of anonymity, citing fears of retaliation from the company.“We had to explain to buyers that the traffic insurance was complementary and remind them it would expire earlier and should be renewed on time,” he said.But three Neta buyers, who asked not to be named, told Reuters the dealerships had not told them the policies had begun well before the purchase date, only finding out when the policies expired.
What Happened In Japan Last Night?
I spent yesterday trying to take a break from work and recharge, but I did spend a bunch of time following the Japanese elections on my phone. The result? Like a lot of elections recently, incumbents lost ground, but not enough ground for anyone to claim a mandate to do anything.
Japan’s ruling coalition lost its upper house majority in an election on Sunday — after having suffered a similar lower house defeat in October — but Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba has made clear his intention to go on leading the government.
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Of the 125 upper house seats up for election, the ruling coalition won 47, versus the opposition’s 78. Ishiba’s Liberal Democratic Party lost 13 seats while its coalition partner, Komeito, gave up six.
The chamber has a total of 248 seats.
Including the coalition’s 75 seats that were not up for reelection, the bloc’s upper house presence is down to 122 from 141, three seats short of a majority.
For now, it’ll be Ishiba who is going to lead the tariff negotiations with the Trump Administration, but it’s likely only a matter of time before the LDP dumps him for someone who knows how to win elections.
The EU Is Coming For Our Bourbon

With 50 states, there are a lot of ways for foreign governments to target American senators for reciprocal tariffs if they don’t get what they want out of negotiations. The President decided to blow up the global trade order by threatening increased trade duties on virtually every country, inhabited or not. So far the United States has little to show for it, as these are complicated negotiations that usually take months or years.
The EU seems ready to accept a 10% tariff on most goods, but that might not be enough. If the EU doesn’t get what it wants, it’s going to retaliate, as Bloomberg reports:
The bloc has already approved potential tariffs on €21 billion of US goods that could be quickly implemented in response to Trump’s metals levies. They target politically-sensitive American states and include products such as soybeans from Louisiana, home to House Speaker Mike Johnson, other agricultural products, poultry, and motorcycles.
The EU has also prepared a list of tariffs on an additional €72 billion of American products in response to Trump’s so-called reciprocal levies and automotive duties. They would target industrial goods, including Boeing Co. aircraft, US-made cars, and bourbon whiskey.
It’s also working on potential measures that go beyond tariffs, such as export controls and restrictions on public procurement contracts.
You know when they come for the bourbon, they’re not playing.
What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD
The Last Dinner Party has a new album coming, and the video for “This is the Killer Speaking” is predictably strange. I dig it.
The Big Question
Is this the bottom for Stellantis, or is there another sub-basement?
Top photo: Jeep/Depositphotos.com
Not surprising at all. The auto industry has spent billions preparing to meet 2026 – 2032 fuel economy requirements. If CAFE goes away that development and in some cases tooling is wasted and has to be written off. Then you have to spend time and money to validate the old less fuel efficient engines in new models.
It looks like several programs I spend the last 4 years working on will just get scrapped – or put on the shelf until the next administration – and then they will require more worked to come off the shelf.
I’m waiting on Dodge to ship cars with carburetors, long-tube headers, and no cats soon.
Our future smells great.
“ Instead of building more EVs that no one seems to want….”
Stellantis built compromised EV that even EV buyers didn’t want.
Any car company that changes it’s path because we are CURRENTLY not penalizing violations of CAFE standards deserves everything it gets when we go back to doing so.
“Is this the bottom for Stellantis, or is there another sub-basement?”
Sad to say, I think we’ve only reached the level of the frogurt being cursed. We haven’t discovered that the choice of toppings contains potassium benzoate yet.
I thought the BMW i8 was cool and would occasionally check out available inventory just to daydream. One December a few years after it launched, I noticed a drastic increase in used i8 listed as available at BMW dealerships: nearly 100 of them listed at around $10K under new MSRP and less than 1K miles on the odometer. (Some MUCH less.) That amount dwarfed new inventory and was 3-4 times more than used i3 inventory.
I smelled year-end financial shenanigans but never found any more details. This “Zero mile used car” pattern might be a plausible explanation.
I’m ok with more tariffs on bourbon- may keep some of the rare stuff from leaving the country so I can buy more.
Stellantis’ American brands have ended up where they are now by trying to hold on to the good ol’ boy “that thing have a Hemi?” demographic without a plan to diversify or expand beyond that niche. Jeep has avoided this somewhat but has it’s own issues. Chrysler has no cars left and nobody seems to know what they are as a brand anymore. Dodge came out with the electric Charger but changed nothing else and now are retreating to the what worked for them 20 years ago.
I would guess that since they are working from the “we tried nothing and we are all out of ideas” strategy we will see them continue to excavate further depths in future quarters.
What should they do instead of returning to what worked well for them?
Seems like they just stabbed the good ol’boy demographic right in heart. Selling goofy cars and bloated trucks to people that wanted to buy them makes more business sense than whatever they’re doing now.
Toyota needs to buy Jeep. It sounds sacrilege but imagine a Jeep Wrangler with 4Runner levels of quality and reliability.
I imagine a Toyota Corolla with Dodge level of build quality being a reason why not.
if they could just get off their dupa and do their own….I just don’t understand why they haven’t yet, especially considering they have capacity at at least one assembly line to do somethingggggggggggg
They’re bringing back the FJ, are they not?
Every company who’s bought Jeep has ended up in trouble, I think they’re smart enough to pass at this point.
Toyota also didn’t innovate enough early. They had a huge headstart on hybrids and they wasted it. Ford beat them to the truck market.
How did Toyota waste their headstart on hybrids? They sell the most hybrid vehicles in the USA by far and their entire ICE lineup has a hybrid option with the exception of the GR86 and Supra. Some of their core vehicles are hybrid only.
Toyota already makes cool things for the rest of the world, just bring those here and crush jeep at it’s own game…. or maybe it’s old game. To beat jeep now you just need to make off-roaders with more dash space for ducks. Toyota already has 3 row SUVs.
Also, note that the only reason anyone would take that job would be for the parachute when leaving.
Does that horse-girl have a penis?
Asking for a friend.
Am I the only one who thought that picture of Carlos Tavares was Jon Lovitz?
Either you’re the only one not yet aware of the running joke or I’m the only one not aware that you’re joking.
First thing that came to my mind when I saw that phot, and not aware of the running joke either. Not much of a meme fan here.
When I saw a picture of Jon Lovitz I was really hoping it was going to say “Carlos Tavares, pictured above”. Not disappointed.
If anyone thinks Stellantis has hit the bottom of this shitshow, get ready for the V8-everything re-blowing up in their faces, just like it did last time.
They painted themselves into one hellva pit with dropping things with nothing coming out to replace what they drop and then rehiring idiots like Timmy boy there.
The problem with putting V8’s back into production is that they really have no Challenger or Charger to put them in anymore. Yes, there’s a new Charger and Yes, it can be 2 and 4-door, and Yes, it’s supposed to be a chassis designed for both an EV drivetrain and an ICE drivetrain. I think once it finally becomes available with a Hemi, it will be too expensive and uncompetitive. And I wouldn’t be surprised if people stop caring about these cars. And if I’m not mistaken, most Chargers and Challengers sold came with the Pentastar 3.6L V6 and not a V8. They represented a good value in a large car for a good price. I’m thinking the “good price” part of that equation is dead.
They need a mid-sized truck with the V8. Just like the Dakota of 25 years ago, it’ll be unique and a hit in that segment.
LOTS of Tacoma folks are unhappy that they can only get a 4cyl (even though the last gen V6 was trash) now.
RE the Chargers and Challengers, most pony/musclecars were like that. The V8 (or big V8) was always the halo car. The smaller, less powerful engines ALWAYS were the volume sellers. People would go to the showroom to check out the SS396 Chevelle, then leave with a 307 powered Malibu.
Or to keep it Mopar, come for the Hemi Charger, leave with a 318 Coronet.
I am incredibly confident that should Stellantis hit bed rock, that they’ll drag out the blasting caps and keep going.