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I Think This May Be The First Mass-Produced Car With A Frunk And It Helps Expose The Mercedes-Benz First Car Lies

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I alluded to this in passing yesterday, but I kept thinking about it, and I think this car, the 1891-1894 Peugeot Type deserves a mention for two reasons: one, I do believe it was actually the first mass-produced car one could buy with (optionally, I think) a front mounted trunk (also known by the portmanteau “frunk”, which in this case, was sometimes a literal portmanteau) and two, the fact that this car was produced in some numbers between 1891 and 1894 supports the argument that Mercedes-Benz really shouldn’t claim their 1886 Patent-Motorwagen as the “first automobile,” which I’ll explain in a bit here.

First, let’s just talk about the Peugeot Type 3 a bit: Peugeot started building cars in 1889, four steam-powered ones, but in 1890 the company realized that gasoline-powered engines were smaller and simpler to deal with, and entered an agreement with both Gottlieb Daimler and Émile Levassor to license Diamler’s engine, which was built by Levassor, and then bought by Peugeot to use in cars. The first car to use this V-twin four-stroke engine, the Type 2, arrived in 1890 and only four were built, but the design was then refined into the Type 3 in 1891.

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The 1891 car was much more successful, with 64 examples built, and Peugeot likes to claim this as the “first mass-produced car,” which I wouldn’t agree with – the 1875 Bollée La Mancelle steam car had 50 examples built, after all.

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Image: Peugeot

But, and here’s the important part, I think the fact that this was most likely the first gasoline, internal-combustion engine car to be built in real quantity is very important, because I think it absolutely weakens the Mercedes-Benz claim of inventing “the first automobile.

Here’s why: aside from the fact that there were many, many practical steam (and gas, and electric) vehicles that preceded it, the 1886 Benz Patent-Motorwagen is often claimed to be the first practical car to be available to the public and claimed to have been the template for the modern era of cars to follow. But if you really look at the timeline, I don’t think this makes sense.

Benz claims 25 Patent-Motorwagens were built between 1886 and 1894. That’s a big chunk of time, first of all, and if you actually look at the cars they’re talking about, things fall apart. That first 1886 car had no actual fuel tank (just 1.5 liters of fuel stored in the very simple surface carburetor-like device) and really wasn’t “practical” to drive. Here’s the 1886 car:

Image: Mercedes-Benz

The second car was built the next year, in 1887, and was substantially different than the original:

Image: Mercedes-Benz

…and that one wasn’t especially practical, either. These were still experimental cars, like the Siegfried Marcus gasoline internal-combustion cars that long preceded the Benz from 1870 and 1875. Then, in 1888, there was another very different Patent-Motorwagen, the 1888 car that was famous for Bertha Benz’ 60-mile trip:

Image: Mercedes-Benz

…and this car still had issues getting up hills and required Bertha Benz’ clever en-route repairs and modifications to work. It was not a production-ready vehicle by any means, yet.

Siegfried Marcus’ 1888 car was actually as or more advanced than the Benz 1888 car, too, with a real carburetor and spark ignition:

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Image: Vienna Technical Museum

 

…so when Benz finally did get around to building more cars, a process that really didn’t even start in any numbers until 1891, the four-wheeled vehicles being built then were substantially different than the 1886 car that’s always tagged as being the “first.”

And that brings us to the car I’m talking about now, the 1891 Peugeot Type 3, which managed to start to build and sell 64 copies three years before Benz managed to crank out 25 cars total, and the first handful of those 25 Benz cars were really just developmental prototypes, anyway.

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All of this is to say that if Mercedes-Benz wants to claim the 1886 Patent-Motorwagen as the first practical gasoline car built and sold, they really can’t because that 1886 car was not the car they finally started to build in quantity, and once they did start, other companies, like Peugeot, were already building and selling many more cars.

See what I mean? Okay, now let’s look at this first frunk I mentioned. Normally, the Type 3 had another seat up front, facing backwards, for what the French call a vis-à-vis (face to face) seating arrangement, as you can see here (the front seat is unoccupied), with Louis Rigoulot and workshop foreman Auguste Doriot driving it in September 1891 in a Paris-Brest cycle race as a demonstration:

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Image: Peugot

They managed to drive that car an astounding total of over 1,200 miles, from the factory to the race course and back, which was vastly farther than any other gas-powered car had managed to go up until that time.

But the frunk! Right. That front seat could have a little trunk mounted in front of it, like this wicker one:

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…or this leather one, as you can see in this annoyingly AI-narrated video:

I think this little trunk-holding bracket that could be fitted counts as the first official frunk!

Pretty amazing, right? I suppose I should note that the reason for me talking about this at all is I’m working on a larger video to refute the Benz “first car” claims, so stay tuned!

 

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EricTheViking
EricTheViking
1 month ago

Argue all you want and publish all endless articles you feel the need to prove yourself, Jason. Yet, publishing a handful of articles in Jalopnik and The Autopian that rehash the same “arguments” does get old and stale fast.
 
People keep saying Karl Benz wasn’t “first” because steam cars and experimental petrol carts existed earlier. That’s technically true — but it misses the historical definition most scholars use. If “automobile” just means any self-propelled vehicle, then yes, Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot beat everyone in 1769 with a steam wagon. But that’s not what historians mean when they credit Benz.
 
The Benz Patent-Motorwagen (patented in 1886) was:

  • The first patented gasoline-powered automobile
  • A purpose-built, integrated design (not just an engine stuck on a carriage)
  • The first to be commercially sold
  • The first to go on the long distance (Berta Benz), proving the feasibility of automobiles for travels
  • The foundation for series production (see the Benz Velo)

 
Yes, others like Siegfried Marcus experimented with gasoline engines earlier — but there was no clear patent, no production, and no sustained industry impact. Being “first” in history isn’t about who tinkered earliest — it’s about who produced a documented, practical, commercial breakthrough.
 
By that standard, Benz’s claim holds up.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

I think Jason’s point is that by the time Benz hit all of your bullet points, either some had beat them to it (see:1879 Selden Patent, which was not thrown out by SCOTUS but narrowed to only cover a setup long obsolete by the 1910s) or had caught up.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago

Good luck with the video! Just don’t leave the narration to AI.

Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

The Old Site: I bet one article about Mercedes making the first car.
Torch: I see your article and raise you a full video debunking your claim.

PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
1 month ago

Unlike the third passenger in those early cars, I’m looking forward to the video!

PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
1 month ago

Thank you! ^_^

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 month ago

Pretty cool how that schematic for the Peugeot Type 3 lists the colors, like with all body parts being blue.
If that includes the frunk then one wonders whether anyone ever got inside such a frunk and said they were sad because they were in a blue frunk.

Harmon20
Harmon20
1 month ago

…Expose The Mercedes-Benz First Car Lies

I imagine Torch pounding out the last bit of that headline like he was on an old rusty Royal, his lip curled in disgust and the sound of grinding teeth in the air.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  Harmon20

We all know it was done on an Apple II, or maybe a Commodore 64.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

Pretty sure a PET.

Jay Vette
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Jay Vette
1 month ago

As someone who is really interested in the early history of the automobile, for which there seems to be comparatively little research, and a lot of contradictory information, I for one cannot WAIT for a video debunking the Benz claim to inventing the “first” car, even if they have since clarified that they meant first “practical” or “production” car. Because it really seems like neither of those claims are true at all, in which case, does the Benz Patent Motorwagen have any notable claims it can make? Maybe just for being the first car built by the company that is now Mercedes-Benz? As a related note, I really hope they don’t claim they’re the oldest car company in the world, because the company that exists now is merely a merger between two older companies (Benz and Daimler) and that merger was only 100 years ago. I suppose they can say that thye can trace their roots back to the Benz company, but what exists now isn’t entirely just that.

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Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 month ago

Do any of the taillight bars ever have bands and if so would one such band be named…Parliament-Frunkadelic?

Ron, on the reservation
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Ron, on the reservation
1 month ago

I just noticed that the Tiguan is no longer listed in the JT Current Fleet. I either missed it or want to request an accounting of it’s disposition. Replaced by a 2CV?

Fredzy
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Fredzy
1 month ago

I hope MB doesn’t take your attack on their “first car” claim in a bad way and pull a Peter Thiel on the Autopian, hah

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
1 month ago
Reply to  Fredzy

Pshaw! The Autopian will have Peugeot on their side. And if you’re going to war with Germans, having the French on your side is a guarantee of (double-checking history books)… Oh well, The Autopian has had a nice run.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

There is still a Peugeot family member active in the business. I think that may make Peugeot the oldest automobile maker to make that claim.

5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
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5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
1 month ago

I agree that MB can’t make the first car claim, but it remains to be seen if they can make the LAST car claim when a W123 is still running when humanity cooks itself out of existence…

Andy Farrell
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Andy Farrell
1 month ago

Wrong, we all know it will be a Chevy Express that outlasts humanity…

5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
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5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
1 month ago
Reply to  Andy Farrell

Could also be a lone Altima bouncing off of parked cars as it races away from the wall of fire.

Andy Farrell
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Andy Farrell
1 month ago

True, I did not think of that, lol.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  Andy Farrell

They’ll still be coming off the assembly line.

RobN
RobN
1 month ago

I don’t know why I feel this way but I do…

Taillight obsession: pls never stop
MB wasn’t first obsession: pls stop

RobN
RobN
1 month ago

You talked me into it. LFG!

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
1 month ago
Reply to  RobN

“MB wasn’t first obsession: pls NEVER stop”

There… fixed it for you. Benz’s ‘first car’ claim is bullshit.

RobN
RobN
1 month ago

Nah, Jason fixed it. You just jumped in a day late.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

It’s almost like real history is messy and complicated and doesn’t fit into quick and easy marketing statements…

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
1 month ago

That Peugeot gives new meaning to the term “back seat driver”

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago

I think that the Mercedes-Benz first car lie is one of the truest, realest, most deeply held beliefs Torch has and I’m so.. pleased? Proud? It’s not my place to be either of those things, but knowing all the thousands of silly things he’s said, all the journalists he has induced to unspeakable hostility with his goofy, affable nature, all the dangerous and menacing folk that live outside the warm, inviting glow of the Lumiére Rouge, this might be his most sincere beef.

Step it up, MB. Make it right.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

Looks like it’s a removable frunk, too. I wouldn’t trust it in hold of a steamship but I guess once you get where you’re going you could maybe take it inside. Which I’d like to see you do with any modern frunk system.

“Lemme just bring the groceries in.”
*brings in an entire Tesla front clip.*
“…What?”

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 month ago

There’s a logical progression from horse drawn vehicles where there was a compartment under the driving seat called the boot. A lot of early cars took a carriage and drove it from the back seat, with a boot under the front seat. Peugeot does appear to be the first to put a separate carrier out front since the rear engine interferes with a trunk out back. Peugeot also beats out Benz by offering useful co-branded products like pepper mills and bicycles.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

There’s still plenty of ’70s/’80s Peugeot road/commuter bikes out there, too. I think they’re still making them under the Cycles Peugeot brand but they’re limited to the European market. And Stellantis doesn’t own that part of the company.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 month ago
Reply to  James McHenry

Yes the pepper mill company spun off years ago and is still owned by the Peugeot family. The bicycle brand is part of a holding company along with Bianchi and Gitane.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

The Peugeot family still owns 7.7% of Stellantis

Trevlington
Trevlington
1 month ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

My polished walnut 2004 Peugeot pepper mill is one of my favourite things. It was a wedding present from a retired Canadian journalist who used to drive a Citroen Traction Avant.

PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Trevlington

Spiffy! My Peugeot pepper mill is from the late ’90s – early ’00s, and looks the part in nice clear acrylic. It was a gift to my father from some German business associates.

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
1 month ago

Ill ready the pitchforks and torches for you, Torch.

Vanagan
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Vanagan
1 month ago

I think Jason needs to buy some more cars with frunks.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  Vanagan

He still doesn’t have a Corvair.

Burt Curry
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Burt Curry
1 month ago

Play that frunky video, Jason. Play that frunky video, nowwwwwww….

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