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My Friend Had A Dream About A Weird Car She Wanted To Show Me So Let’s Make It Kinda Real

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You all remember Emily Velasco, right? She’s written for us a few times about all kinds of interesting stuff, and she’s an artist/maker who builds e-bikes and all sorts of fascinating things. More importantly for me, though, is that when she sees cool cars around her, she will almost always take pictures of them for me so I can write about them, which is much appreciated. She saw a car she wanted to take a picture of for me recently, but there was one catch this time: that car was in a dream.

Here’s what she told me, verbatim:

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“So last night I had a dream that I was in a coffee shop with a friend and I saw a crazy little old car towing a crazy little trailer outside and I ran out there to get a photo of it for you”

I like that even in dreams, she knows it’s important to get pictures of weird cars for me. Unfortunately, she was too late to get the picture in the dream, and even if she did, I probably couldn’t have used it because it’s really hard to download pictures from dream-phones to reality-phones still, at least without expensive software.

However, drawing cars you see in dreams is free if you have the ability, and thankfully Emily does! She sent me this drawing of the car:

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She said it was a sort of maroon-ish enamel-type finish with brass detailing. A quick sketch not being enough, she then sent me a color version:

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And I gotta admit, this is exactly the sort of car I’d want a picture of if someone sees it, dream or otherwise. The strange, simple basic design, the oddly ornate brass detailing, the diminutive size, that trailer – there’s nothing about this I don’t like.

I was pretty thrilled by it all, and asked Emily if she thought it had a name. She said “It would be called the Lloyd Motors Lilliputian or something,” and while that’s a good name, there’s was already a German carmmaker named Lloyd out there, and this doesn’t really seem like something they’d make.

I found myself thinking about this car more and more. It doesn’t seem German, but it does seem European, post-WWII Europe, maybe French, or something close to French, but a little more unexpected. Belgian! Okay, in the alternate universe where this exists, let’s say it’s Belgian, so let’s translate Emily’s name idea into Belgian French. Lloyd means “gray-haired” in Welsh, so in Belgian French that would be cheveux gris, and I like “Lilliputian” so let’s just translate that to French, too. I think we’ll simplify cheveux gris into Chevgris, giving us this:

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I just picked 1958 because I figured they started making these after the war, around, oh, 1952, and kept it up until, let’s say 1960. The Chevgris was designed to be a more stylish and upmarket alternative to most microcars, and used some really idiosyncratic engineering, primarily because of a deal the founder of the company, Jules Savonfromage, had with his brother-in-law who owned a huge number of rail freight cars across Europe: Jules could ship his cars anywhere, for free, but the cars had to be able to fit in whatever random spaces were available in the freight cars.

As a result, Savonfromage designed a car that was very narrow and able to be crammed into the most unlikely of spots. Also, by separating the main car from extra cargo or people-carrying capability but being able to add that via the included trailer, he could be even more flexible about where his vehicles could cram into packed boxcars.

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The trailer was upholstered and padded inside so up to three people could ride in it with the lid removed, or it could be used to haul a good bit of cargo with the lid on. The main car had a small luggage well behind the seat, but was really only suitable to carry one person.

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To engineer such a small and strangely proportioned car, a lot of odd engineering decisions were made. The engine was designed to fit into a very tall, narrow space, leading to the strange piston design of a very small bore and a very long stroke: it was a 454cc engine, but with only a tiny 47mm bore and a stroke of 131mm. The result was pretty low horsepower (only 11) but surprisingly good torque (30 foot-pounds) which gave the Lilliputienne unexpectedly good acceleration.

No windshield or roof was provided, but the car did come with the leathern helmet and goggles seen in Emily’s drawing, as well as a sort of tonneau cover with a head-hole that would be used in the rain.

The Lilliputienne was never built in huge numbers, but was fairly well-known across Belgium and Europe, and was famous as the only car that Belgian cartoonist Hergé, creator of the famous Tintin comic series, refused to ever draw or include in his works, as the result of a childhood fight with Savonfromage over a merguez sausage.

What a fascinating little car! I can’t believe I never heard about this thing before. I guess I need to spend more time on the Internet that connects to whatever Emily is dreaming about.

 

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Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

it’s really hard to download pictures from dream-phones to reality-phones still, at least without expensive software.

Isn’t this a perfect use case for your meat-based storage system? Sure, some details might get corrupted in the transfer, but think of the memes!

Also, highly amused that this was invented by Mr. Soapcheese.

Gary Hunt
Gary Hunt
1 month ago
Reply to  Ben

Aw man, I was going to cryptically suggest that anyone who hadn’t taken high school French, look up “Savon” and Fromage.” The name made me guffaw as well.

Banana Stand Money
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Banana Stand Money
1 month ago
Reply to  Ben

I’m so glad someone brought attention to this matter. Mr. Jules Soapcheese is indeed one of the all time Belgium greats.

Joe L
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Joe L
1 month ago

Looks like the Pennsylvania Railroad’s GG1.

Alex Estill
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Alex Estill
1 month ago

How about an open sided moped version? And then a series of trailers in smaller and smaller sizes relating to the kid you’re pulling? And maybe all those trailers do a russian doll thing for storage?

Dagger21
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Dagger21
1 month ago

Bravo Emily

Rublicon
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Rublicon
1 month ago

I’m hoping someone else sees that drawing and thinks “Daria!” like I did.

Rublicon
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Rublicon
1 month ago
Reply to  Rublicon

On 2nd thought, its really more Daphne.

Rublicon
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Rublicon
1 month ago
Reply to  Rublicon

Or even Tina Belcher.

Baltimore Paul
Baltimore Paul
1 month ago

Reminds me of boardwalk, tram, or an amusement park parking lot people getter

Strangek
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Strangek
1 month ago

It looks like some sort of airport vehicle modified for street use. I love it.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago

Reminds me of the “train” you see at the local fair. A lawn tractor decked out like a steam locomotive towing a few 55 gallon oil drums on wheels with cutouts for the kiddos.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

My thought also.

Stryker_T
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Stryker_T
1 month ago

if you ever wondered where those mall trains came from that scoot kids around, this is what they were originally.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

Firstly: this kind of whimsical little thing is straight out of a children’s book. It makes me want to have a whimsical fantasy cartoon animal person driving it.

Secondly: assetto corsa mod wen?

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 month ago

Don’t know why but for some reason the color drawing that Emily made immediately made me think of the Brütsch Mopetta (very much a real microcar and ludicrously rare, with only 5 known to survive though modern replicas are actually available, like with the Peel P50) even though the Mopetta is so egg-shaped:
https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Brutsch-Mopetta.jpg

Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
1 month ago

That looks like fun!

Angry Bob
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Angry Bob
1 month ago

This article made my day a little bit better, and I needed that.

Clear Prop
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Clear Prop
1 month ago

The wheels aren’t right for it. Needs some color matched steelies with brass dog dishes.

Alex Estill
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Alex Estill
1 month ago
Reply to  Clear Prop

Agreed, or maybe a vaguely wagonwheel-esque spoked wheel in brass or cast iron?

Hotdoughnutsnow
Hotdoughnutsnow
1 month ago
Reply to  Clear Prop

I think this example must be a resto-mod where they slapped some 1980s (Sears) Craftsman replacement lawnmower wheels on it. The original wheels were prone to cracking because they were made from asbestos.

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 month ago

Possibly feeling a bit peckish, conjures up a bot delivery, and as dreams often do, plot goes sideways.  

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 month ago

Awaiting the news that for higher member tiers, a 3D printed model of this vehicle is forthcoming in the mail.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 month ago

Nah, it’ll be like the sausage shirt and candy lab cars. Available for purchase to sit on my desk with probably too many cars at this point.

TJ
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TJ
1 month ago

I’d buy one!

Amberturnsignalsarebetter
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Amberturnsignalsarebetter
1 month ago

I would love to have this as a member pin for the next renewal!

Jason Roth
Jason Roth
1 month ago

This is amazing and perfect, but I have to ask: why in God’s name does it have two doors?

Njd
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Njd
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason Roth

To better serve the UK market, of course, what with parking on the other side of the street and all

Arrest-me Red
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Arrest-me Red
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason Roth

So you can get out on either side or for two kids in a trench coat

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 month ago

“[I]n Belgian French that would be cheveux gris […] I think we’ll simplify cheveux gris into Chevgris”
Since it has two units (car and trailer) it could be called…Deux Cheveux Gris

AssMatt
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AssMatt
1 month ago

The top-down image is a screaming robot.

Melendez69
Melendez69
1 month ago

The driver bears an uncanny resemblance to Velma from Scooby Doo.

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Melendez69

Drat! I would have posted this comment first if it wasn’t for you meddling kids!

Melendez69
Melendez69
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I see what you did there… 😉

Last edited 1 month ago by Melendez69
Emily Velasco
Emily Velasco
1 month ago

I like that you interpreted this as being post-War. In my dream it was something from that Brass Car Era, which I guess could also be post-War, if we’re talking about the Spanish-American War.

Now that we’ve seen the renderings, I feel like I want to build an electric version of this using the spare e-bike parts I have lying around.

Emily Velasco
Emily Velasco
1 month ago

Relive simpler times with the Chevgris Lilliputian. Everything you need for your motoring life, and nothing else.

Last edited 1 month ago by Emily Velasco
Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
1 month ago
Reply to  Emily Velasco

You must, and document the build here as well.

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 month ago
Reply to  Emily Velasco

Please do! If you document the build I daresay there are plenty of us who would read/watch that 🙂
Ah, yes, the Brass Car Era, one wonders what would happen if you were to soup it up like what this person did by installing a ca. 1914 J.A. Prestwich Industries aircraft engine in his 1908 GN cyclecar:
https://youtu.be/8ks2e_pjasQ?si=id3qN-mUcSisL2it

Phuzz
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Phuzz
1 month ago

I swear I only came across the term ‘Brass Car’ a couple of weeks ago, , but since then I’ve heard/read it several times, so I guess it’s pretty widespread?
How did I never read/notice it before?
Weird how that happens sometimes. Maybe I accidentally slipped into a parallel world which is almost identical, except for the prevalence of the term “Brass Car Era”?

RHM 31
RHM 31
1 month ago

How about a bumper car retro fitted for the street.

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago

Has she traveled anywhere by plane recently?

That looks like a fanciful baggage-transport tug. 🙂

EDIT: In case anyone is wondering, the engine displacement math checks out

Last edited 1 month ago by A. Barth
Emily Velasco
Emily Velasco
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

I haven’t flown anywhere in like eight years! I can’t stand flying!

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago
Reply to  Emily Velasco

Understand completely – I used to fly all. the. time. for work (globally) and have 100% gotten over it 😐

Now I do one CONUS trip per year (still for work) and have no real desire to fly anywhere for fun.

Tim Cougar
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Tim Cougar
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Definitely could see it as an attempt by Lansing-Bagnall to penetrate the civilian market.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago

Something else to add to the lore: In the midst of the late ’50s import-car boom, it was shown at the 1958 New York Auto Show under the name Autogris. Presumably this was to avoid trademark unpleasantness with Chevrolet, which proved moot when they failed to attract a US distributor, or much attention at all except from preteen car-brochure collectors.

Mighty Bagel
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Mighty Bagel
1 month ago

You’re a strange man, Torch. Don’t change.

It's Fine
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It's Fine
1 month ago
Reply to  Mighty Bagel

1000%

Timbales
Timbales
1 month ago

I like that she dreams of Tina Belcher driving an odd little car.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  Timbales

Slowly, toward an inevitable collision with the one obstacle in an otherwise empty, vast parking lot.

Amberturnsignalsarebetter
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Amberturnsignalsarebetter
1 month ago
Reply to  Timbales

I thought everyone did…

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