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My Mom Is Mad At My Lawyer Wife Because She Drives A Tiny Toyota, What Car Should She Buy?

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Two years ago, my wife thought she made a sound decision when she bought a 2012 Scion iQ. In her eyes, the iQ was cute and fun like my Smart Fortwos, but should be reliable because it’s a Toyota. Unfortunately, not only has the car been a reliability disaster, but it seems nobody else thinks the car is cute and fun. My mom just revealed that she thinks Sheryl’s car is a massive disappointment and disrespectful to her profession (she’s a lawyer). Now, my wife is looking for a new car that fits her career a little better. What should she buy?

If you’ve been in the car community for long enough, you’re probably well aware of the concept of buying a cheap car that makes you look like you have money. In theory, this is especially handy if you work in a profession where you need to project a certain image, but you might not have the dough to buy a new ride for that purpose. I didn’t subscribe to that idea for a long time. I thought that if you bought a 20-year-old Mercedes-Benz, you wouldn’t be fooling anyone. I thought that you didn’t have to be a car enthusiast to deduce that someone’s driving an old car, no matter the badge that’s on it.

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Witnessing my wife’s experiences with her cars has taught me that the concept of “balling on a budget” is shockingly and confusingly accurate. When Sheryl drove a 2010 Toyota Prius, she was seen as a sort of environmentalist lawyer, and she got no complaints. Sheryl told me that she even blended in, as some lawyers do drive Prii and other hybrids because hybrids are green and trendy.

Mercedes Streeter

When Sheryl switched to the 2001 BMW 525iAT that we bought from our secret designer, the Bishop, her positive-image score spiked off the chart. Almost daily, she would get compliments about the BMW. There were several instances where guys offered her $5,000 on the spot for the wagon. It blew my mind because that BMW was a rustbucket that I had purchased for just $1,500 – but it did look really clean with tinted windows and fresh wax.

Everyone complimented the BMW, from Sheryl’s clients and opposing counsel to my family. Everyone sort of treated the BMW as a massive upgrade from the Prius. It was almost like Sheryl had won it big or something. Practically overnight, Sheryl was taken as seriously as those lawyers with the billboards and expensive suits, when all she had done was trade a decent hybrid for a cheap and rusty BMW. Clearly, people didn’t care. She really was balling on a budget.

Mercedes Streeter

Unfortunately, the BMW’s rust advanced to the point where the car’s jacking points could no longer be used. Worse, driving it 40,000 miles in a single year did a number on the BMW’s engine. So, she decided to pass it on. In hindsight, this was the wrong decision. We could have fixed Wanda the BMW. Even worse, the guy who bought it ended up committing a hit and run with the vehicle after failing to register it for months. Guess who had to mop up that mess? Oh, and then the friend that we loaned the Prius to managed to destroy the car by ramming a deer.

The Cute Mistake

Sheryl found herself in the car market again, and this time, she decided to get weird with it. She adored driving my Smarts, but I warned her that Smarts are way too finicky to drive 40,000 miles a year without major headaches. Sheryl chose the next best thing, the car that was more or less a Smart, but by Toyota.

Mercedes Streeter

At the time, I thought it was an okay decision. The example she chose appeared to be in great shape with tons of life left in it. While I didn’t think it was a “lawyer car,” I also knew that Sheryl typically enjoys being underestimated. She sort of plays a character not unlike Peter Falk’s Columbo, and it’s amazing how well it works in real life.

So, she got the iQ, and at first, things were great. The car scored 40 mpg, everyone thought it was oh so cute, and we got a decent deal on it. At first, the car didn’t even give us any issues. It started every single time without failure, even when my own cars failed me. We then drove the iQ most of the length of Route 66, and the car was an absolute joy on that monster of a road trip.

Mercedes Streeter

Then, the house of cards began falling apart. We installed an aftermarket cruise control system, which eventually grew a hunger for accelerator pedals. The cruise control managed to kill not just one, but two accelerator pedals over the course of just 10 months.

The problems only get more frustrating from there. The engine had a mystery issue of randomly sputtering and then shutting down while at idle. I replaced the spark plugs and coils, which fixed the issue. Now, the car has an intermittent rough idle. The engine stays running, but something is sometimes unhappy. I went through the work to put the old coils back in, and there was no change.

Update: The iQ has developed a new and fun problem. Last week, it blew both of its low-beam headlight bulbs at the same time. I replaced some somewhat crusty-ish headlight relays and the bulbs. Well, the bulbs just stopped working an hour ago, then came back to life 10 minutes ago. This is fine, totally fine.

Mercedes Streeter

As of a couple of weeks ago, gas pedal number three has intermittent failures. This is concerning since we did have the cruise control uninstalled. Previous diagnosis seemingly confirmed that the cruise control killed the gas pedal. But that’s no longer a factor. What’s going on now?

This morning, the iQ presented a new issue when the heater refused to blow warm for 30 minutes of Sheryl’s freezing morning commute. The coolant looks great. Maybe the blend door got stuck? There’s more, from the incessant whining of the CVT and the rust that’s appearing in strange places, to the fact that it occasionally throws traction control errors.

In fairness, the Scion didn’t get like this all on its own. Sheryl crashed the iQ during the summer, and then crashed it again only three weeks ago. Many of these recent issues cropped up after that second crash.

Everyone Hates The iQ

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Mercedes Streeter

Yet, it wasn’t exactly the unreliability that soured Sheryl’s relationship with her car. Over the past two years, we’ve witnessed how people who used to think of the car as something cute and novel have turned on the vehicle.

The same people who complimented the car or expressed wonder two years ago now call the car a total piece of junk. Clients think Sheryl is a joke because of the car, and opposing counsel have gone from underestimating Sheryl to just openly mocking her. Somehow worse is that Sheryl seems to now have a negative reputation. I cannot begin to type out what these people are actually saying, but they’re calling her a type of transphobic slur who drives the tiny piece of garbage. [Ed note: What is wrong with people? Gee whiz. – Pete]

This negative reputation has reached the point where she lost a lucrative contract, largely because of the car. Her own clients have cursed Sheryl out over her car. Mind you, Sheryl’s law practice is unique in that the client names the price they pay for her work. Many of these people do not pay for her services at all, but demand that she drive a new luxury car. Basically, she’s no longer Columbo.

But the worst sting came from the inside. Not only does Sheryl’s best friend want to commit violence against the iQ, but my mom spent a great portion of Christmas dinner dressing down Sheryl in front of everyone about why she thinks Sheryl’s car sucks.

Mercedes Streeter

Seriously, this conversation went on for longer than an hour, and my mom went hard. She said that, by driving the iQ, not only is Sheryl insulting me, but she’s disrespecting the family and me as a whole. Mom also said that if Sheryl cared about me and actually respected me, she’d drive a real lawyer car and make more money. This conversation would normally be way too personal to publish, but it hit me like a ton of bricks because it came out of the blue and was weirdly harsh. Long story short is that, apparently, over the past two years, my mom has lost respect for my wife because of the iQ.

I defended Sheryl throughout this conversation. I have a fleet of crappy, weird cars. I am not disrespected by my wife choosing to drive a weird car. She’s a grown woman and can make her own choices with her own money. But Pandora’s box has been opened. The words that have been said cannot be taken back. It’s clear that everyone now hates the iQ.

Our conclusion is that the iQ is actively harming Sheryl on multiple fronts. She has been depressed about this, and I have been dealing with headache after headache. I honestly have never seen a car cause so much strife before. Yet, most people seem to agree that the iQ sucks. In fact, our very own readers have been saying it for over a year now.

We’ve made the decision to get a different car, but the question is: What car?

So Many Choices

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When I posed this question to The Autopian‘s staff and contributors, I used the qualifier that it should be somewhat “lawyer-like.” Ideally, I’d love to pay cash for this car, but that would mean a budget under $10,000. Financing also works, but Sheryl’s not looking to get into a loan on a $40,000 car anytime soon.

First out of the gate was Jason Torchinsky, who recommended a Scion xB. Or, specifically, he said that we should buy a dirt-cheap first-generation xB, and then pay someone to make it the most luxurious xB in the world.

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David Tracy was next, and his recommendation was a 1980 Subaru GL wagon. I’m not even sure what to do with this recommendation.

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Matt Hardigree returned us to reality with the recommendation for a Lincoln Town Car, but specifically one that isn’t black. The idea there is that Sheryl won’t look like a livery driver. Also, I guess she’d get to say that she’s a Lincoln lawyer?

Stephen Walter Gossin recommended a 2000s Jaguar on the account that they look great, are plenty luxurious, and can be had for dirt-cheap.

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Jaguar

My mom said Sheryl’s new car has to be high-end luxury. The wildcard is Sheryl’s best friend, a Honda fangirl, who recommended a mid-2010s Civic, an early 2010s Accord, or an Acura.

As far as Sheryl’s own picks, she wants something like a mid-2010s Subaru Legacy, an Infiniti G37, an Infiniti EX35, a Toyota Avalon, a Lexus LX470, a Lexus LS400, a mid-2010s Mazda3, a Hyundai Veloster, a Hyundai Genesis sedan, or another Toyota Prius. She also wants another BMW E39, but she’s reluctant since the last one didn’t go so well.

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The good news is that Sheryl’s mileage has gone down over the past two years. As of now, she puts about 25,000 miles a year on her car, an improvement over her old mileage of 40,000 miles a year. Still, that’s nearly double the national average, so Sheryl needs something that’s at least somewhat durable.

I don’t think a Civic is a good pick. Civics are extremely hearty cars, but I’m not sure it would give Sheryl the image she’s looking for. Likewise, early 2010s Accords are often seen as great first cars, so I’m not sure that will also complete the mission as desired. I know Sheryl also loves the Hyundai Genesis, but will the Hyundai badge turn people off? I also adore Stephen’s suggestion for a highly depreciated Jaguar, but I’m positive my wife will get murdered by repair costs.

The Legacy, Veloster, and Mazda3 are Sheryl’s bucket list cars, so those would be considered in spite of how anyone feels about them.

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The Bishop

Since we have direct access to the people who hate the iQ, we started polling them on my cars. I have like 13 crappy cars, so I can easily sell some or give one to Sheryl. Apparently, the most “lawyer” car in my fleet is the BMW E61 wagon that I bought from the Bishop, but that has over 180,000 miles and is already very finicky. I do not trust that BMW to take Sheryl’s beatings without breaking in a hilariously expensive way.

The three cars that both line up with the image goal and with Sheryl’s own desires are the BMW E39, a Lexus LX470, and a Lexus LS400. E39s are easy to find in decent condition for cheap enough. But Sheryl has deep concerns about long-term reliability, which is fair. The two Lexus (Lexi? Lexuses?) are great ideas, but I’ve been gobsmacked at old Lexus values.

Most of the Lexus in my local area have well over 100,000 miles, and their sellers are still demanding $7,000 to $8,000 for them. I could have sworn that these were $3,500 cars back in 2019.

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The 2002 LS 430 above was wearing this in its window. Photo: The Bishop

Anyway, I have found some affordable Avalons, Priis, Camrys, and some newer Honda Accords. What’s stopping us from moving forward is just being unsure. I don’t want to blow a ton of cash on a car that fails at improving Sheryl’s image, or worse, is a car she ends up hating.

The shortlist for now is a Toyota Avalon, a BMW E39, a Toyota Prius, a Subaru Legacy, or a Honda Clarity. But we cannot seem to make a decision for fear of making the wrong decision. It’s funny because I’ve purchased cars entirely on impulse before. But that’s me. I can get away with buying a dumb car. My wife doesn’t have that luxury, so I want to get this right.

Whew, it sure took a long time to get here! Now I want to turn it over to you. What car should she buy? Should she just tell my mom and her haters to buzz off? What car would you expect someone who functions like a public defender to drive? Please help me, my brain is melting from the indecision.

Top graphic image: Mercedes Streeter

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Lightning
Lightning
1 month ago

Though I dress athletic/casual because I live in Alaska and worked doing field jobs in the environmental field, I do understand the importance of dress codes in how others perceive you. If someone has just met you and has nothing else to go by, they have to go by how you choose to dress and what you choose to drive. Like someone else said below, a car, if others in your line of work see yours, is an extension of the dress code, so it makes sense for a lawyer (or real estate agent, etc.) to drive a nice-looking car. Also, an iQ is just not a good car for high mileage driving even if it had been reliable.

With you having a Subaru mechanic brother and me being a fan of Subaru Legacys (mainly 1995-2004 manual wagons but I respect the newer sedans), I like the Legacy suggestion. Also, Subarus do well on high mileage driving. There was a 1.2-million-mile 2015ish Crosstrek out there. Do all the maintenance that was deferred by the previous owner and keep up all the maintenance and a Subaru will go a really long way. If you get one, change out the CVT fluid to make sure the transmission lasts. Even better if you get one from a private party with documented CVT fluid change early. A dark red newer Legacy with nice wheels looks classy, like this 2019 Sport with 107K for $14.5 in California:

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/327d97eb-1530-4a82-8f7c-5c48388e19fe/

or this 2016 with 101K for $10K in Calfornia.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/e9cf5503-86b7-4b6d-a057-df9250f84eb1/

This 2021 Legacy in blue also looks nice:
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d3f364d4-e193-49a7-b508-a7906f3e6ee6/

Having owned a 2010 Prius, a Subaru Legacy would be more comfortable to drive. Also, avoid the third Gen Prius or CT200h unless you want to do a head gasket job down the line. I like the post face lift 4th Gen (2019-2022) Prius if going with a Prius

Last edited 1 month ago by Lightning
Kleinlowe
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Kleinlowe
1 month ago
Reply to  Lightning

Having recently shopped for a used Prius, I think the 3rd gen head gasket issues are a little overblown, pun not intended. They seem to be caused by small amounts of oil getting into the EGR system – starting with a low mile example, cleaning the EGR system, removing the venom symbiote from under the valve cover, and installing an oil catch can (then remembering to regularly empty it) seems to be the remedy.

More work than anyone would expect to do on a Prius, but a fraction of what it takes to keep an old German car on the road. Plus, there’s an absolutely rabid core of Prius-V owners determined to keep their cars alive, so I expect 3rd gen drivetrain issues to continue to be documented and solved.

Lightning
Lightning
1 month ago
Reply to  Kleinlowe

On mine, I did the EGR cooler cleaning, got the EGR replaced under an extended warranty and did the catch can thing, but still felt lucky to get away getting a decent payout from insurance after an animal collision at 180K on mine.

I decided afterwards that the catch can was a bad idea. On my last road trip in the car (where I hit caribou), which was across Canada to Alaska in winter, the catch can, as a cold block of aluminum, was freezing up the moisture that usually circulates back to the EGR valve potentially causing a blockage if I wasn’t emptying it daily (driving 500 miles daily up to 1/3 full of mostly ice every day) while dealing with frozen threads on the catch can. A nightmare at -40 temps.

I don’t think anyone would be avoiding a head gasket job doing 25K miles a year starting from a used 2010-2011 (maybe 2012) and intending to keep it longer term. Toyota made incremental changes to the pistons and piston rings that that helped mitigate the issue with 2015s the best of the generation. Of course, people just paid for head gasket jobs and kept driving too. I don’t think the EGR was the definitive cause. When EGR flow is insufficient, it does pop a check engine light with a code indicating that. The main thing causing the problem compared to the Corolla engine with the same block was probably just being a hybrid with the engine cycling on/off.

Last edited 1 month ago by Lightning
Kleinlowe
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Kleinlowe
1 month ago
Reply to  Lightning

That’s very interesting! I’ve heard that 2018+ ct200hs had some change that corrected the problem. (Of course, that’s conveniently after they stopped being sold in NA market.) What do you think the difference is? Just further piston and piston ring improvements?

Lightning
Lightning
1 month ago
Reply to  Kleinlowe

The 4th Gen Prius (2016-2022) had a completely revised EGR system with about double the cross section among other things to make it less prone to clogging. That was maybe the real fix or part of it anyway. I forgot to add that there were many, many revisions of the intake manifold (going by the number of part numbers for that, at least 7 going from memory) throughout the Gen 3 Prius run trying to address this issue (the narrow passageways from the EGR getting plugged up).

The 2014-2015 Prius and 2014-2017 CT200h were probably “fixed” enough that the head gasket problem was probably pushed further down the road to the point where people weren’t complaining about it. If it happens at 100K to 200k miles, people complain. If it happens at 300K, it’s just an old car.

Last edited 1 month ago by Lightning
Kleinlowe
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Kleinlowe
1 month ago
Reply to  Lightning

That’s extremely good information, thank you!

RoverSig
RoverSig
1 month ago

Your thought process on this is hopeless. What do you want – a bargain? something to impress people who don’t know anything about cars? something safe and reliable? something with character that she will enjoy driving? If you just said you wanted a reliable and safe used car with no negative vibes, the consensus would probably be a Camry or an Accord.

Goblin
Goblin
1 month ago

Yeah, that’s what your mom is pissed at your wife for…

PS: Nissan Cube

Frederick Tanujaya
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Frederick Tanujaya
1 month ago

LS430 / LS400, but fuel economy would be a bit of a concern…

Em
Em
1 month ago

Looks like you could find a pretty decent TSX Wagon in the $10-15K range! We love ours; we don’t drive Sheryl’s mileage, but our 2012 has held up extremely well for us since bought in 2017. The Prius is a great fuel-efficient choice, but our (base) wagon is comfier and more spacious than family members’ 2nd and 3rd gen Prii. Phenomenal for long road trips (our main driving), pup transport, and car camping, and rare enough that seeing another sparks joy!

Fuzzyweis
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Fuzzyweis
1 month ago

I can’t imagine having a job where your compensation is tied to the car you drive. I can definitely imagine being judged by your car in general, but not to the point it impacted livelyhood, but I guess if public image is related to livelyhood it makes sense, it’s very strange, like driving a Japanese car in the midwest 40 years ago or a Cybertruck nowadays.

I’d say Toyota Avalon Hybrid if you can, or tjust he Avalon. I think Toyota reliability and the general grown up styling of the Avalon should get a pass from most. It’s no BMW, but also, it’s no BMW.

I Know What I Harvey
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I Know What I Harvey
1 month ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

> It’s no BMW, but also, it’s no BMW

Lol

David Lorengo
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David Lorengo
1 month ago

Get a current gen (2014 or newer) Lexus IS250 AWD. Great gas mileage for someone who drives a lot, ballin on a budget image, toyota dependability and AWD for those midwest winter driving conditions. strap on a set of bilzzaks and go anywhere.

SlowBrownWagon
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SlowBrownWagon
1 month ago

Cimarron.

Seriously, Volvo or Lexus. I get the Avalon thing but my buddy wanted to get his grandson a Nova or El Camino for his first car but I guess Avalon is hot with the youth these days and that’s what the kid wants. Buddy couldn’t have been more sad but in the long run at least the kid might live long enough to vote. Maybe for a PD you want the car that troubled teens are into?

Change “-us” to “i” if it’s Latin or add “es” from Greek. Lexus is a made up word from both, so you call them Lexisusesi for all I care.

You are both amazing and a good part of why I’m here, don’t let the bastards get you down!

Last edited 1 month ago by SlowBrownWagon
Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  SlowBrownWagon

“but I guess Avalon is hot with the youth these days and that’s what the kid wants”

What a world! Back in my day (of, like, seven years ago) the kids wouldn’t look twice at an Avalon.

SlowBrownWagon
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SlowBrownWagon
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

“sigh” That was probably before they started murdering them out and putting 20″ rims and fart cans on them. Maybe Sheryl can find one that’s already had the “upgrade”

CanyonCarver
CanyonCarver
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

When I came of driving age some 20 years ago, I had a buddy who swore by Avanlons. He beat the ever living snot out of them. Eventually it would die, he would buy another and start the whole process over.

Wgn_luv
Wgn_luv
1 month ago

I vote for the Prius

Lumpy Tapioca
Lumpy Tapioca
1 month ago

A 2020-ish Corolla XSE in red.
Put in a Comma 4 running sunnypilot.
Look good, be happy.

Last edited 1 month ago by Lumpy Tapioca
IanGTCS
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IanGTCS
1 month ago

Way late to the party here but get the Avalon. They look classy enough and the original owner was likely old and wasn’t hard on it.

My neighbours were selling their parents one and had I been in the market it would have snapped it up in a second.

Rapgomi
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Rapgomi
1 month ago

I hate judgmental people, and agree with the many commentators before me on how annoying it is that your wife is criticized over this!

My additions to the suggestions:

1) JDM Toyota 250 Progres – A 4wd 1JZ powered luxury sedan from Toyota’s peak reliability years. Smaller and more fun than a Crown, but they still have a silent Lexus level interior. They were popular with elderly Japanese owners, so near perfect examples can be found with US registration and under 75k miles for $8-12K

2) BMW 128i (E82) – Small but super fun and comfortable. A prestige badge, but not a car that looks like you are trying. One of the last classic straight six BMWs, complete with hydraulic power steering. Find a clean one with low miles and keep on top of cooling system maintenance, and they will run for huge mileages.

3) Any Honda Accord in excellent condition – They scream professional competence without flash. Conservative but modern looking, high quality, cheap to repair, and surprising fun to drive.

Otter
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Otter
1 month ago
Reply to  Rapgomi

Love the 128i–small, looks good, wonderful on the highway, surprising mileage, spacious for 2 and a real trunk to hide your banker’s boxes, so many parts shared with the ubiquitous 3-series, and the smooth, reliable N52 straight six. Mine’s been in the Northeast for more than a dozen years and has no rust.

Jcup
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Jcup
1 month ago

First of all, I hope Sheryl knows that there’s a bunch of us on here ready to go to war on her behalf.

Second, I’m gonna vote for a Lexus sedan, Toyota Avalon, or Honda Clarity in that order

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J Terran
J Terran
1 month ago

I knew another lawyer who showed up at his first meeting with us in some old, unremarkable thing. We hired him as corporate counsel. We didn’t have a lot of money. Turned out he was a really big deal and very very successful. He said he liked the kind of clients who didn’t hire him by his car. The next time we saw him he was driving something very fancy. We always wondered if we’d been taken advantage of but I don’t think so.

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Timbales
Timbales
1 month ago

I’ve been away visiting family, so I’m late to the table. Reading about what she’s had an liked, I say find a BMW i3 with a range extender that’s in good condition.

It checks the boxes – enviromentally friendly, BMW ‘luxury’, and quirky.

J Terran
J Terran
1 month ago

A lawyer acquaintance of mine who is now long since retired was a senior partner at a big Boston firm. He drove a Mercury Colony Park station wagon. Maroon with red leather. They stopped making those in 1991. This was the early 2000s, so the car was probably 15 years old. All his partners drove Lexus, BMW, Benz etc. He could have afforded anything without thinking about it. But he was the best of Boston Brahmin, and his name (which I won’t repeat here) matched. His shirt sleeves were often frayed. His suits seemed custom but old. He was rail thin and in great shape. He told me he never locked his car. He was a great lawyer, a kind man but ruthless when the fight was just and right. He could give f all about what people thought of his car. Actually, he was rather proud of it.

J Terran
J Terran
1 month ago

I have been kicking myself for days because I decided not to spend CDN$25000 on a 1999 LS400 with about 40,000 KM on it … and I have just seen one listed for CDN$56,000 and fear it might be the same one at a different dealer. MY VOTE is an LS400, the Gen 2 version with the 5 speed 1997-2000. Maybe an LS430 but love the second gen LS400.

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OttosPhotos
OttosPhotos
1 month ago

You have my sympathies, your mom was out of place for all her comments.

Having said that, the IQ never made sense after all the problems you’ve reported. As a daily driver, the minimum requirement is reliability, and that car did not have, and should have been replaced a long time ago.

Don’t know how it is in your side of the country, but here in CA, all the lawyers I know drive a luxury or near-luxury vehicle. They may be on the low end of that spectrum like a C-class or 3/4 series.

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
1 month ago

The needs are these:

  1. Needs to be able to drive 40K miles per year. That also means several oil changes and such. Ignore that, and you’ve got a new article regarding yet another “what to purchase” in about 18 months.
  2. Does she actually drive clients around? If so, interior needs to be tip-top shape. If not, the driving still needs to be comfortable cuz miles.
  3. 40K miles at 40mpg is still 1000 gallons. Any lower mpg and the gallons go up. So, were it I driving 40K miles, I’d get a PHEV.
  4. Does she haul stuff around? If so, truck or wagon. If not, wagon, just in case.

So, inputting all of that into my custom-built H.I. (“Human Intelligence” i.e., my brain):
Lexus NX HPEV.

BobWellington
BobWellington
1 month ago

This reads like an Onion article. WTF is wrong with people? She should drive whatever makes her happy.

CarEsq
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CarEsq
1 month ago

I’ve been in the law long enough to know that, unfortunately, that people do judge you by what you drive as a sign of how successful you are as a lawyer. Heck, I’ve had bosses say to me “here’s a bonus, upgrade your car with it because you’re a reflection on us.” And it wasn’t like I was driving some rustbucket.

But it’s a level of being a jerk to say that to people in your family for appearance issues alone. Safety is a whole other reason to criticize, but not because of status.

As to your issue, I’ve grown comfortable with having a Lexus being my “lawyer car.” I’d be fine with a 4Runner, but I’m all in on the GX460, now my second one, with no plans to get rid of the current one forever. It’s perfect for the eyes of people who have to see the badge, but because it’s a) reliable, b) had a long run and c) was largely the same look for most of that run, I don’t have to combat those issues.

I would also humbly suggest a Lexus ES as a candidate. Lots of lawyers drive them, they can be had relatively cheaply, and most of the generations are extremely reliable.

Another suggestion given your like of JDM, what about a Toyota Celsior? Ones I’ve seen at auction seem to go reasonably and with low miles. You could swap out badges with a junkyard LS.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago

I vote Prius; affordable, current ones look good, great fuel economy, last forever. I’ve talked to too a least a few people who commute long distances and that’s all they’ll buy.

Side note – my wife used to work for a federal judge who drove a beige Saturn Ion with a manual. His wife hated the car but it made him happy. He taught me how to drive a manual transmission using it, then swapped cars for a couple of weeks so I could have more time on it. They drive an Outback now.

My wife’s an atty and drives an Outback as well, Mazda3 and Galant before that. We’re not fancy.

05LGT
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05LGT
1 month ago

At 333 replies, I apologize if I’m repeating someone. If you can find one, a GS hybrid? Nothing has longevity if you crash frequently, but the Toyota hybrid system has a good reputation for lasting for many miles. The RWD GS gets props from those who know, and the hybrid gets props from plenty of people. Also lower cost to operate after you buy in. I worry about rust where you are. Maybe buy one where no salt is needed, road trip it home, write about it and get some legitimate tax relief?

TJ Heiser
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TJ Heiser
1 month ago

Choose an Avalon in a dark color, blackout the chrome and badging, that will push the image level up to near Lexus levels.

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
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Amish it, literally!

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago

First, your mom is completely bonkers.
I don’t know why anyone would care what an attorney drives.
I have known people working for an engineering firm that feel they can’t live where they like because the firm is very image conscious and social climbing, but younger members were not getting paid anything reasonable at all, so had few options.
I don’t even know what most attorneys I’ve known drive. Some have asked me for basic car advice in fact. Only one I’ve had drove anything interesting, but I can’t even recall what that was.
Friend of mine has a late model Japanese car in black, maybe Honda?
I would think a Volvo 245 would be a good choice, bmw clicks the social climber thing if that’s called for.
And the Volvo can be fitted with a 351 and a manual, if desired.
I showed up in a friend’s new 5 series once and the instant assumption was that I had more money, OR was spending it unwisely!

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