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Pick A Little Red Runabout: 1993 Dodge Shadow vs 1997 Pontiac Sunfire

Sbsd 4 16 2026

You must have noticed that gas prices are on the rise. For those of us with an entire fleet of vehicles with huge engines, that top number on the pump at the end of a fill-up is starting to get disturbing. It’s almost never worth actually buying another car to save gas money, but it is enough to get you thinking small. So today we’re looking at a couple of cars with more reasonable fuel consumption.

It was not my intention yesterday to stack the choices so a Ford would beat a Toyota; it just worked out that way. I liked the comparison because both were RWD coupes with manual transmissions and forced induction. In the end, it looks like most of you came to the same conclusion I did: the Supra was probably the better car – before it got messed with.

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I do like that Thunderbird, though. I have a soft spot for fast Fords of that era after some extensive seat time in a Taurus SHO that my dad owned. I imagine this T-Bird would be a similar proposition. I’m still not crazy about the automatic seat belts, but I’d prefer them to a daily reenactment of The Trashed & The Spurious.

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I don’t know exactly when or why I started disliking red cars. I’ve had more than a few, and for the longest time I didn’t care that much. It might have been when I got my Miata, and noticed that every single other Miata on the road was red. And then when I went to look for a winter car to complement it, I found a nice little Plymouth Neon, which was also – you guessed it – red. Maybe I just got sick of it. But it’s definitely a strike against either of these that they’re the color they are. Let’s see if you can see past the color of either of them.

1993 Dodge Shadow America – $3,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.2-liter OHC inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Pinckney, MI

Odometer reading: 90,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

The more I look at this car, the more “off” it seems. I try to give sellers the benefit of the doubt, but I do need to point out a couple of discrepancies here. The seller has this car listed as a Shadow ES, but it isn’t; it’s a stripped-down “America” model. It even says so on the back. But the America was discontinued after 1992, and this car is listed as a ’93. So there’s a chance that they got both the trim level and the model year wrong. Is there anything nefarious in it? Probably not, but check that VIN on the title carefully.

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The Shadow America was a special low-cost base model, with no options. It’s powered by a standard 2.2 liter K-car engine with throttle-body fuel injection and a five-speed manual transmission. If you know Chrysler engine bays of this era, you know that the big empty space on the passenger’s side is where the air conditioning is supposed to go; the America model didn’t come with it. I do see a power steering reservoir cap, at least. We don’t get any more information about it besides “great driving,” but I guess that’s what counts.

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The stripped-down theme continues inside: there are no power options, and plain gray plastic trim everywhere. Cheap, ill-fitting seat covers adorn the front seats, and there’s no telling what condition they’re in underneath. I do see an aftermarket stereo in the dash, which is undoubtedly an improvement over the stock AM/FM radio.

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It has a rear spoiler that looks original, which must have been an option, and the lower body cladding from an ES model, which hopefully wasn’t added to hide rust. Better take a peek underneath. Also, in case you aren’t aware, the Shadow is a hatchback. There’s a surprising amount of room back there if you fold the seats down, too.

1997 Pontiac Sunfire SE – $1,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.4-liter DOHC inline 4, four-speed automatic, FWD

Location: DeWitt, MI

Odometer reading: 202,000 miles

Operational status: “It’s been sitting for 2 years and fired right up”

This is funny – I know exactly where this car is. I’ve driven by it a bunch of times. Unless there are two red Sunfire convertibles with white tops in the small town of DeWitt? Probably not. If it is the one I think it is, it’s one of four or five cars in the driveway, which may explain why it has been sitting unused for a couple of years. A less-practical car like this often gets relegated to fourth-car status, and if nobody needs it, it just sits there until someone finally decides it’s time to let it go.

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The Sunfire came with a couple of different engines. This one has a 2.4 liter twin-cam four-cylinder, an evolution of the famous Quad 4, backed by a four-speed overdrive automatic. It has a whopping 202,000 miles on it; somebody had some fun with this car. And even though it has been sitting, the seller says it sprang to life with no issues. It’s probably best to change all the fluids right away, though, and get the battery tested. Cars don’t like to sit for too long.

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The interior looks decent, if a little dirty. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen those headrest-only covers before; they look weird, and I don’t quite understand the purpose of them. The convertible top works fine, as do all the windows, but sadly the air conditioning does not. It could be fixed, of course, if you decide it’s worth doing so.

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It looks decent outside, and the seller says it has “minimal rust.” Judging by the cars I’ve seen around here, I think that’s about as good as you’re going to get. It has a “couple pin holes” in the top, which should be able to be sealed up well enough. The front tires were replaced shortly before they stopped driving it, but check the date codes on the rears to make sure they’re still viable.

Either one of these would make a good inexpensive runabout, the sort of car you keep minimal insurance on and drive to save money on gas. With one, you get the added engagement of a manual transmission, and with the other, plenty of fresh air when you want it. Sure, there’s a price difference, but probably not quite as much by the time you talk one of them down and spruce the other one up. So which one will it be?

 

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Lori Hille
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Lori Hille
45 minutes ago

That Shadow is too shady!

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 hour ago

Definitely one of the easiest choices ever.The Sunfire has a better price and condition plus in this case is really puts the Sun in SUNfire. Probably much easier to find the mechanical bits to keep it on the road for many more summers.

Fuzzyweis
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Fuzzyweis
1 hour ago

Years ago I was in need of a car and the used dealer I ended up at had several cars including a 1990 Sunbird with automatic, and a Shadow, both coupes, I think the Shadow might even been a manual. I really wanted the Shadow but was swayed(coersed?) to get the Sunbird, which ended up with leaky valve cover gasket, and I traded it not a couple years later for a brand new Dodge Neon with a manual and no AC. Having said all this, I’d go with the Sunbird again here, and convertible to boot!

Dodd Lives
Dodd Lives
1 hour ago

If only that red Shadow didn’t have so many matching red flags – it would be a perfect addition to the Museum of Mundane Cars. My best friend drove a matching red Shadow all through our university years, until it got totaled in a hit-and-run. It was a crappy car and didn’t do anything particularly well, but it sure withstood his abuse and never left us stranded anywhere.

EastbayLoc
EastbayLoc
2 hours ago

Sunfire, Sunfire, Sunfire. It’s seems in ok enough shape for $1500.

There is no way in hell that I would ever, ever consider that Dodge Shadow (or whatever it actually is) for $3500 and the meth contact high that I would surely get. Jesus, what a pile of crap. Even the seat covers are trashed and the owner is sketchy as hell. Just no!

Sad Little Boxster
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Sad Little Boxster
2 hours ago

In 1989 I rented a Dodge Shadow from Hertz in Las Vegas, and it was an overall experience so vile that it’s still seared in my brain 37 years later. So used-up Sunfire that maybe sort of runs it is.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
2 hours ago

This was easy too… I’ll take the Sunfire. Shadows are basically junk and the Sunfire is an ok car- it’s kinda neat and at least it’s a convertible. It will run badly longer than other cars will run at all. Plus I can’t believe it’s way cheaper than a…Dodge Shadow!

Cyko9
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Cyko9
2 hours ago

I did a double take: the Sunfire is the cheaper car? It’s priced right and probably okay for a while. The Shadow isn’t nice enough for that price, nevermind the inconsistencies.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
2 hours ago
Reply to  Cyko9

Yeah, I can’t believe a fun convertible Sunfire is way cheaper than a Dodge…Shadow?! Those are basically junk. The Sunfire will run badly longer than other cars will run at all (sounds like this one at least runs decent too!)

TK-421
TK-421
2 hours ago

I went with the manual Shadow, I don’t care about options for a winter/rallycross beater. The convertible does nothing for me, although it’s quite cheap.

D M
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D M
2 hours ago

Sunfire. Runs and super cheap. Use some of the extra money to fix the AC and seal the top.

Shady Frankenshadow is shady. If it was a straight up ES with the manual and AC, I’d think about it, but it still seems steep. As it sits, a nebulous year America with no AC, an ES hatch/spoiler/bodywork it’s a no go, ESPECIALLY at more than double the sunfire’s price.

CSRoad
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CSRoad
3 hours ago

I’ll go for a quad4 Sunbird as long as it is not rusted to hell underneath.
The mileage is not a concern to me.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
3 hours ago

Is there silver bullion in the trunk of the Shadow? A book that gives the correct formula for transmuting cheeseburgers into gold? A sworn affidavit and video documenting who actually shot JFK? Maybe a recipe for a pie that causes you to lose weight, become 50% more attractive, and fart rainbows?

I’m trying to think of anything that might justify the Shadow’s $3,500 price tag.

Sunfire wins in a default judgment.

Last edited 3 hours ago by The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
Kevin B
Kevin B
3 hours ago

They both suck, but I’ll take the Sunfire because it sucks less than the Shadow.

Bill C
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Bill C
3 hours ago

I like the Shadow but the price is nuts. The Sunfire could probably clean up nicely if it’s not too rusty. I voted Sunfire.

Nycbjr
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Nycbjr
3 hours ago

Sunfire, if for nothing else the evolution quad4 is a decent motor with the balance shafts and lower hp head gaskets aren’t as much a problem. too bad its not a 5 speed, that combo was a lot of fun!

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
3 hours ago

I love a good SunFerrari, but that Shadow hits the nostalgia button for me.

My parents owned a black stick 2-door like the on in this listing. They used it as our only family car for 11 years. They drove it until the driver’s seat started collapsing through the floor.

It’s a stick and that drivetrain is dead nuts reliable. Shadow allllll the way.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
21 minutes ago

“ black stick 2-door”
Umm…

Ashley Volvoslut
Ashley Volvoslut
3 hours ago

“I knew a girl from [enter midwest citytown] with a Sunfire” is a phrase that probably 80% of y2k sleaze can say. Take it to the lake with some Boone’s Farm and you’re in for a real good time. Easy win.

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
2 hours ago

A buddy of mine married one of those. The Sunfire was yellow. It did not go well.

Last edited 2 hours ago by DialMforMiata
Ashley Volvoslut
Ashley Volvoslut
2 hours ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

…Cassie?

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
2 hours ago

Even better. Rhonda.

Last edited 2 hours ago by DialMforMiata
Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
3 hours ago

It’s a 2.2! They’re easy to fix. Shadow all the way.

Beasy Mist
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Beasy Mist
3 hours ago

That is a FrankenShadow for sure. The hatch is fully from an ES, no America or Highline had that spoiler. The cladding is from an ES. The interior is definitely an America though.

Any other day a relatively clean Shadow with anything but the 2.2 would get my vote but today it’s the Sunfire I think.

TimoFett
TimoFett
2 hours ago
Reply to  Beasy Mist

Yes, that spoiler and cladding are from a Shadow ES or Plymouth Duster. I suspect that Shadow was wrecked and they had fun rebuilding it. With that spoiler in the hatch the gas struts wear out at about 3 years of use. Hurts like hell when that hatch suddenly drops on your back.

Beasy Mist
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Beasy Mist
34 minutes ago
Reply to  TimoFett

Ouch. I had my Duster about 5 years and I don’t think this ever happened.

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