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Tariffs Increased The Average Car Price By $1,200, But Cars From One Country Actually Got Cheaper According To One Study

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The most extreme prognostications about the increase in car prices due to tariffs–tarifs that the U.S. Supreme Court recently deemed at least partially unconstitutional–haven’t yet materialized. This is partially because there were numerous carveouts given to automakers, though a larger component might be that corporations decided to eat the cost themselves. A new study shows that some automakers swallowed harder than others.

It’s a blizzard in New York, and I’m enjoying the fact that I don’t have anywhere to go other than sledding when the wind calms down. I’m also happy that, unlike Friday, I doubt the Supreme Court is going to decide to drop a huge decision right as I finish this story. The news doesn’t work on The Morning Dump’s schedule; The Morning Dump works with whatever wacky timing the news wants to provide.

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Are automakers paying tariffs? Or are they not? Or are they? It’s complicated.

Equally complicated are the reasons why Toyota ditched its current CEO even as the automaker has been performing well. Is this another tariff impact? Maybe? Something that isn’t a tariff impact, but also costly, is the possibility that Tesla may end up having to pay nearly a quarter of a billion dollars in an Autopilot lawsuit.

South Korea Will Eat The Fees

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Screenshot: GrubHub

I keep getting this weird GrubHub ad when I watch Hulu, and so in the back of my head is George Clooney saying “GrubHub will eat the fees” over and over again. It’s kind of annoying, though I’m glad not to pay fees.

If you bought a car built in South Korea by Hyundai or Kia, you, too, probably didn’t eat the fees. At least according to a new study by CatalystIQ out of Ada, Michigan (shoutout Zeytin Turkish Food!), which looked at VINs from cars listed for sale and determined how much movement there was based on country of origin.

Automotive News looked at the study, and there are some interesting conclusions:

Canadian-Built Cars: $3,991 more

Japanese-Built Cars: $3,298 more

German-Built Cars: $2,819 more

Mexican-Built Cars: $1,504 more

U.S.-Built Cars: $91 more

South Korean-Built Cars: $123 less

There are some caveats, of course:

In the measurement of Canadian-built vehicles, it is worth noting that a contributing factor was the conversion of the industry’s top-selling nameplate, the Toyota RAV4, from a gasoline to an all-hybrid powertrain with the start of the 2026 model year. A majority of RAV4s sold in the U.S. are built in Canada, and the conversion meant that the starting price for the industry’s most popular compact crossover rose to $33,350 for 2026 from $31,250 for 2025 models, including destination.

While automakers routinely increase prices during model-year changeovers, especially as they introduce new features and technologies or perform redesigns, there was a noteworthy difference this year. CatalystIQ compared the current model-year changeover with the previous one across all of its VIN data and found that, on a weighted average, “there was a $1,200 more aggressive increase that took place this year rather than last year,” Wainschel said.

That $1,200 average is for all cars sold in the United States last year, which isn’t as bad as initial estimates. A lot of that makes sense and fits within what you’d expect. You’d also expect American-built cars not to see much of an increase, which happened. But there’s a weird standout here in the form of Hyundai and Kia:

Automakers have attempted over the last year to come up with strategies to mitigate the added costs of tariffs without passing too much onto consumers already struggling with affordability.

Volkswagen tried early on to include the added impact of tariffs on each vehicle’s Monroney window sticker as a separate line item, but pulled back on the effort. Hyundai-Kia has touted its decision to hold pricing in the face of tariffs — a large driver of why South Korean-built vehicles saw their marketed price fall from last October in the CatalystIQ study — but that decision weighed on its most recent earnings.

So why did Hyundai and Kia customers not see as much of an impact? It’s not because South Korea had any sort of special deal. In fact, the deal recently got worse. This was a choice. Hyundai and Kia decided to opt for market growth in exchange for profitability. And it worked! Both Hyundai and Kia grew last year, while many other automakers shrank. It also worked as planned in the sense that Hyundai and Kia lost billions of dollars. Because Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis represent a large chunk of the South Korean-built cars sold here, the impact of that choice is huge. While there are, notably, cars like the Chevy Trax and Buick Envista built in South Korea by GM and sold here, those are lower-priced cars, and there’s only so much they can move upwards in price.

While Volkswagen does make some cars in the United States, the group as a whole doesn’t have that large a footprint, opting instead to build more cars in Mexico. Neither Porsche nor Audi produces any cars in the United States.

Looking at how many cars were sold in the United States by Hyundai and Kia, then comparing that to the tariff loss those brands are claiming, it seems like Hyundai and Kia paid about $2,900 per car in 2025 to keep their sales growth up, which is a lot.

Obviously, automakers are utilizing their plants within the borders as much as possible, and can spread prices across various models so as to reduce the impact of the tariff on any specific car. Automakers can also simply decide to get out of a market, as Mazda is quietly doing with the CX-30, which has margins that are too small and isn’t built here.

In that way, arguably, the tariffs have worked as the government intended, and there have been plenty of announcements by automakers to move production to the United States or, at least, to utilize more of their plants in the lower 48. The tariffs have also generated billions of dollars in revenue for the government.

Will the new tariff ruling by the Supreme Court change the math on any of the above? Yes. No. Maybe?

The Tariff Picture Isn’t Going To Change That Much For Automakers

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Photo: White House

I owe everyone an update from Friday’s quick pots about the Supreme Court decision to declare the President’s tariffs unconstitutional. My basic premise was that no one knows much and that the outcomes are not clear. I watched President Trump’s emergency press conference after the announcement, and it made nothing clearer, other than the President believes he can use a lot of other tools to get the same result. As he said:

I am allowed to cut off any and all trade or business with that same country. In other words, I can destroy the trade, I can destroy the country. I’m even allowed to impose a foreign country-destroying embargo. I can embargo, I can do anything I want, but I can’t charge one dollar because that’s not what it says, and that’s not the way it even reads.

The whole press conference felt like the dril tweet about not being owned, with the usual swipes at various people who disagree with him, and the implication that the Supreme Court’s conservative justices (appointed by him) somehow work for foreign governments.

Initially, the President said he was just imposing a 10% blanket tariff under various authorities, and then a 15% tariff was announced later. At the same time, Reuters reports that Customs has quietly stopped collecting any of the tariffs that were ruled unconstitutional, though it’s anyone’s guess if companies or consumers are going to get a refund.

Will this impact car prices? Maybe, but less than you’d think, because most of the tariffs on cars being sold here either have offsets or come from a completely different set of laws. Because of the USMCA trade agreement, Bloomberg reports that the 15% additional tariff doesn’t apply to vehicles from those countries:

The USMCA carve-out exemption allows the US to continue to import oil and other resources from Canada and Mexico tariff-free, and avoids greater disruption in the trade of key manufacturing inputs such as automotive parts. US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer, when asked about existing exemptions, said the White House was seeking “continuity” with the new tariff order, which will take effect on Feb. 24, the day Trump delivers his State of the Union speech to Congress.

This isn’t to say that those cars are free from any tariffs, but through various mechanisms, carmakers who also build cars in the United States or follow USMCA guidelines haven’t seen as much tariff stacking. Non-USMCA-compliant vehicles, like the Audi Q5, might be, though.

Did Akio Toyoda Do In His Own Successor?

Toyota Ceo Koji Sato
Photo: Toyota

Koji Sato was only made CEO of Toyota back in 2023, and he’s already been pushed aside. But why? And did Toyota Chairman Akio Toyoda have anything to do with it?

Reuters via Automotive News has a deep analysis that includes this funny bit:

[T[he shake-up reflected Toyoda’s thinking that his hand-picked successor was no longer the best fit for the job given mounting cost pressures, three people said. The grandson of Toyota’s founder, Toyoda was CEO for almost 14 years prior to Sato.

This account contrasts with Sato’s explanation at a press conference announcing the change and includes previously unreported details. In an on-stage interview with Toyota’s own media outlet, Sato said Toyoda was not involved in the decision.

“Toyota keeps emphasizing, over and over, that Akio Toyoda was not involved in the personnel decision,” said Seiji Sugiura, a senior analyst at Tokai Tokyo Intelligence Laboratory. “Mr. Sato also says the same thing very carefully — which means he probably was involved.”

Again, Toyota says that Toyoda wasn’t directly involved in a very “protesth too much” sort of way.

Tesla Couldn’t Shake $243 Million Autopilot Judgment

Tesla Model S 2013
Photo credit: Tesla

Last year, a jury said that Tesla was liable for a Model S driver who killed one person and seriously injured another person, with a total judgment of $243 million. It might be years before this gets resolved, though Tesla did try to get the whole case dropped.

Per CNBC, that didn’t work:

In her order out Friday, U.S. District Court Judge Beth Bloom wrote that “evidence admitted at trial more than supports the jury verdict,” and there was no error previously, or additional argument introduced justifying a new trial or change to the earlier verdict.

“We are of course pleased, but also completely unsurprised that the honorable Judge Bloom upheld the jury’s verdict finding Tesla liable for the integral role Autopilot and the company’s misrepresentations of its capabilities played in the crash that killed Naibel and permanently injured Dillon,” Brett Schreiber, lead trial counsel for the plaintiffs in the case, said in a statement.

Again, we’re a long way from complete resolution of this. This isn’t going to discourage attorneys from pursuing Tesla in any crash related to one from here on out, though.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

I’ve got the president, Tesla, and AI all in one TMD. While the vibes are weird, I’m going to bring in the most controversial and unlikable person I can think of: Billy Corgan. I wasn’t a huge fan of The Smashing Pumpkins. I didn’t need to be. For much of my youth, they were everywhere. I’m not going to get into the “Siamese Dream” of it all, but I do think “Eye” from the Lost Highway soundtrack is maybe my favorite song they do?

The Big Question

If you could get Toyota’s CEO to resurrect a single car, what would it be?

Top graphic image: Hyundai

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Nicholas Nolan
Nicholas Nolan
2 hours ago

What the hell did Billy Corgan do to anyone?

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 hours ago
Reply to  Nicholas Nolan

He smashed all those pumpkins!

AssMatt
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AssMatt
1 hour ago
Reply to  Nicholas Nolan

Nothing! Unless you read or watch interviews.

I’m sure Hardigree could think of more controversial musicians, but “unlikeable” is easy to defend. Ol’ Bill talked and talks a lot of trash.

10001010
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10001010
2 hours ago

Bury Me off of Gish or Soma off of Siamese Dream are their best tracks.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
2 hours ago

They don’t have to resurrect it, but can we get some of their cool vans over here in the US?

Strangek
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Strangek
2 hours ago

A new Mister Two would be great!

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
2 hours ago

“George Clooney saying “GrubHub will eat the fees” over and over again. It’s kind of annoying…”

Nothing George does is annoying.
However if you pay attention, George gets annoyed too.
“That’s what I said”

BTW – Did you know before George got his start in showbusiness he drove his Aunt (Rosemary Clooney) and her friends to shows and events (Martha Raye, Helen O’Connell, Kaye Ballard) and others as her chauffeur so they could drink in the car? It was a maroon Monte Carlo which they called “The Danger Car”

Last edited 2 hours ago by Urban Runabout
Highland Green Miata
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Highland Green Miata
2 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

George’s first recurring TV role was on “The Facts of Life”, which I don’t remember at all (him being on the show, that is).

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
2 hours ago

I would bring back the FJ no bias or anything.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
2 hours ago

This time with portal axles available as a factory option.
Gonna need a 1UZ to power it.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
2 hours ago

Or better yet a solid front axle sure would ride a bit worse but could life is easier and have more flex.

Jdoubledub
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Jdoubledub
1 hour ago

I saw a completely blacked out FJ this weekend that looked incredible.

ExType4Guy
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ExType4Guy
2 hours ago

“In that way, arguably, the tariffs have worked as the government intended…”

The intention for the tariffs was to encourage bribes, so they have worked as intended, but workers should not expect to benefit.

Church
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Church
2 hours ago
Reply to  ExType4Guy

Well said.

Scott
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Scott
2 hours ago

Tesla in general, and Elon in particular, may kindly go F it/himself IMO. FSD/Autopilot are undeniably responsible for some deaths and suffering among the driving public. I fail to see why Tesla/Elon should be permitted to make profits off of this.

Also, I was surprised and saddened to hear that the Mazda CX-30 is going away for America. I happen to think it’s a great little crossover despite the fact that the current model has been around for years w/o much evolution. On googling for more info, I ran across this source: https://dailydot.com/mazda-tariffs-halting-production …that I do NOT know the veracity of, which suggests that the Mazda 3 is likely to be killed for America too.

Which, if true, is also incredibly sad. 🙁

EXL500
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EXL500
2 hours ago
Reply to  Scott

I read that article too. Then I noted it was dated March 22, 2025. It also suggested the CX-50 might go away, but since it’s selling like gangbusters, I doubt that’s true either.

Data
Data
2 hours ago
Reply to  Scott

What do you suppose this means for the Miata? They only sell about 8,500 a year and the ND has been around for a decade now.

EXL500
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EXL500
2 hours ago
Reply to  Data

IMO Mazda knows they need the Miata as a way to distinguish the brand from all the others.

Sackofcheese
Sackofcheese
39 minutes ago
Reply to  Data

The Miata is Mazda’s Halo car, they’ve publicly stated that it is the core product of the company. Even though we are in model year 10 of the ND it is still a stunning design that sells decently well for what it is. An extremely niche product that exists entirely in its own category. It even outsold the Supra, Cayman, and Nissan Z, only losing to the significantly more practical sports coupe 86 twins. The downside of Mazda being a small company and sales being relatively low is the generations have to be longer than other cars. I’d buy a brand-new ND in a heartbeat if I had the funds.

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
1 hour ago
Reply to  Scott

That stood out to me too. The old CX-5 was priced pretty close with discounts, so with the redesigned -5 out, it seems like there’s plenty of room for the -30. I’m certainly not encouraging it, but Mazda could probably tack some more on the -30’s price and it would still look like a better value against some of its competitors.

CivoLee
CivoLee
39 minutes ago
Reply to  Scott

I couldn’t find anything about the CX30 going away. Are you sure you aren’t thinking about the MX30?

FastBlackB5
FastBlackB5
3 hours ago

That soundtrack album was a must or Eye and The Perfect Drug alone.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
2 hours ago
Reply to  FastBlackB5

Perfect Drug is one of my top favs by NIN. Gotta be one of the most 90s industrial songs of all time.

10001010
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10001010
2 hours ago

We’re seeing NIN again this wknd 🙂

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago

I worked in the domestic specialty steel industry for about 20 years. Tariffs never helped. The global economy we relied upon was far more complex and integrated.

Same with my current employer. We are a large domestic supplier of our products, but are forced to import certain raw materials due to lack of US supply.

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Tbird
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Tbird
2 hours ago
Reply to  Tbird

Some lack of supply is inherent – we cannot get it here. Some is regulatory – we no longer make it here. The economy is Global.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 hour ago
Reply to  Tbird

Each country would have a few grades of steel/aluminum that they would made uniquely – because it takes quite a bit to changover a steel plant just for those added grades, and doesn’t make a lick of economic sense.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 hour ago
Reply to  Tbird

Steel tariffs (and Aluminum) just results in everyone charging more money.

Results were never that any more share would be made domestically.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 hour ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

That ship has long since sailed. Building ANY factory is a 5-10 year endeavor. Brownfields are easier, greenfields damn near impossible.

Last steel mill I worked for proclaimed they were building a new, state of the art hot rolling mill at the time I was hired. It finally came on line 9 years later when I was laid off.

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Tbird
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Tbird
1 hour ago
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I helped manage construction of a plant expansion for my current employer. That was 3 years on the ground. I helped wrap one up upon hire, that was 18 months.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Tbird
Angry Bob
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Angry Bob
3 hours ago

Elasticity of supply and demand. You can tax cigarettes and smokers will pay it. You can tax apples and people will just buy pears, so business pays it. Everything else is somewhere between.

So when VW said they’d just put the tariff as a line item on the window sticker, well, it’s not that simple.

AllCattleNoHat
AllCattleNoHat
3 hours ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

What’s interesting about wanting to do it as a line item is (and I am not any kind of lawyer) is that if that happened it would seem like it could be more advantageous in getting some sort of refund. As in if you buy something that has a tariff charge broken out as a discrete line item (or you pay one at the port like Mercedes did) that makes it very obvious that there is a tariff and exactly what it is, wheras if you buy something supposedly “affected” by a tariff but the tariff is now just baked into the price, the argument could be that you bought it and made the buying decision knowing the total price and whether or not that price contained a tariff or an increase due to some other factor is not as obvious and certainly doesn’t have a definite dollar value attached to it.

Tbird
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Tbird
2 hours ago
Reply to  AllCattleNoHat

Every retailer in the nation should have explicitly called out the tariff hit on the list prices.

4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
1 hour ago
Reply to  Tbird

And *just maybe* that would have helped people realize that it’s just a tax American consumers pay and not some fee paid by foreign governments to get to sell things here.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 hour ago
Reply to  4moremazdas

One might hope…..

Rick Cavaretti
Rick Cavaretti
24 minutes ago
Reply to  4moremazdas

It wouldn’t matter. Those people would have voted for the fascist either way.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
2 hours ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

All vehicles should be required to put it on there. Full Stop. Transparency in pricing is good (despite what NADA would have you believe).

Rick Cavaretti
Rick Cavaretti
23 minutes ago

CFPB is no longer, as is most other consumer protection segments of the government. The consumer is on their own now.

Yzguy
Yzguy
3 hours ago

Hyundai and Kia decided to opt for market growth in exchange for profitability.

As someone that has visited South Korea many times over the last 20 years, I was asked many times by my in-laws “let us buy you a TV or computer” or other tech product. And my answer was always “I can buy the same {insert Korean brand} product at home for far less.” Plus, how would I bring a 65″ TV home with me in Economy Class?

I believe that not only the car manufacturers, but most Korean made products are subsidized by the citizenry of the country; their higher domestic prices offset the exported products lower prices in North America.

SkaterDad
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SkaterDad
3 hours ago

An electric Scion XB would rule as a daily driver.

Otherwise, I’ll be adding my vote to the MR2.

TK-421
TK-421
2 hours ago
Reply to  SkaterDad

As a former owner of both, I support both of these.

Bluetooth Cassette Tape
Bluetooth Cassette Tape
3 hours ago

TOYOTA!! BRING BACK THE MEGA CRUISER, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
3 hours ago

The chairman wasn’t involved in the removal of the CEO, yeah, OK, I’ll buy that, Toyota, whatever.

As far as revival, I’d like to see something like the original Corolla liftback, simple, light, RWD, with shooting brake inspired styling, woodgrain steering wheel, etc. Sort of a lower cost Japanese 1800ES

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
2 hours ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Actually was going to post this. I have fond memories of my mom’s ’77 Liftback. It’s still one of the coolest-looking cars Toyota produced.

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago

A60 (80’s) Supra.

Can we just put grownups in charge of trade policy?

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
2 hours ago
Reply to  Tbird

How about we put functional grownups in charge of *government* in general.

Oh wait, that would mean we have sufficiently grownup voters – never mind.

Tbird
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Tbird
2 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

I’m willing to start small and work up.

Rick Cavaretti
Rick Cavaretti
3 hours ago

Did anyone study the tariff list in the article? We have a 41% tariff on the Falkland Islands. A tiny set of islands that exports fresh fish. This administration is out of its mind.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
3 hours ago
Reply to  Rick Cavaretti

He put 63% on Fiji, their primary exports are bottled water and UN peacekeeping troops

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago
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And WTF are we buying in quantity from Algeria at 30%? So stupid.

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Cayde-6
Cayde-6
1 hour ago
Reply to  Tbird

Bulk olive oil, most likely.

Kelly
Kelly
3 hours ago
Reply to  Rick Cavaretti

they do that because last time suppliers moved things through other countries to get around Biden’s import bans. we had products showing up with overboxes with a friendly country’s name on them and the evil county’s name on the inner box.

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago
Reply to  Kelly

And so it goes….

Data
Data
3 hours ago
Reply to  Kelly

Those damn penguins on McDonald and Heard islands are up to no good again. I’ve known penguins were shifty ever since I watched Wallace and Gromit in The Wrong Trousers. Curse you Feathers McGraw!

Yzguy
Yzguy
3 hours ago
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My OCD acted up over the list not having any sort of order…seriously, you couldn’t pick one column and make it easy to read?

AssMatt
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AssMatt
1 hour ago
Reply to  Yzguy

What about this makes you think there IS any sort of order?

Stryker_T
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Stryker_T
2 hours ago
Reply to  Rick Cavaretti

yea there were a lot of comments and articles about how ridiculous the taxes listed were when he first announced all this mess.

Rich Mason
Rich Mason
26 minutes ago
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Those Penguins are behind it all.

“They have been screwing us for decades.”

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
3 hours ago

The 2000GT. The prettiest car to ever come out of Japan, IMHO. Bonus points if they did both the coupe and the one-off Sean Connery special convertible.

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

You only live twice.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
3 hours ago
Reply to  Tbird

LOL!

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago
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I heard they made it a convertible because at 6’3 he didn’t fit in the coupe.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Tbird
Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
2 hours ago
Reply to  Tbird

I know, hence “Sean Connery special”. 🙂 But I can’t fit in the coupe either – so I want a convertible!

Jake Wetherill
Jake Wetherill
3 hours ago

Starlet. Just yank the front diff out of a GR Yaris and call it a day

Data
Data
3 hours ago

MR2 with pop-up headlights and some t-tops.

Username, the Movie
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Username, the Movie
3 hours ago

MR2 turbo.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 hours ago

TBQ: Camry Wagon

Share the platform with Mazda and Subaru so they get wagons too.

Fuzzyweis
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Fuzzyweis
3 hours ago

TBQ: I’m trying to think what’d be like a cool sporty cheap one to bring back as an EV, I’ll just go with Scion, bring back all the Scions as EVs on the same platform as the C-HR. xB, tC, xA, xD, not the IQ and leave the 86 as a Toyota. Especially the xB, that’d be sweet.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
3 hours ago

TBQ: a few ideas:
The Celica
A Sub-Tacoma Pickup
The Yaris
Their Indycar Engine Program (abandon NASCAR. do it.)

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
3 hours ago
Reply to  James McHenry

Yep to an N30 or N40. Or if those are not possible, the first-generation Tacoma with adequate rust-proofing would be my choice.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
3 hours ago

The tariffs have also generated billions of dollars in revenue for the government.

However, and this is key, we have all had to pay more for the same products as a result.

Rick Cavaretti
Rick Cavaretti
3 hours ago

We call that inflation. And it’s going to pop within 1-2 months. Historically pop.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
1 hour ago

The tariffs have also generated billions of dollars in revenue for the government…

…and bribe funds to our president.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 hour ago

You mean the countries that joined his Ministry of Peace through direct payments to him aren’t serious about serving the world for the better??

Rich Mason
Rich Mason
22 minutes ago

Which the Orange Turd says are non refundable to the American people.
Because he says it would tie up the courts and Gov. for 5 years as they try to figure out how to refund the money already paid.

WTF?

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