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Tens Of Millions Of Cars Came With A GM Steering Column That Fails In A Ridiculous Way

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If you say the words “GM Steering Column” to a car enthusiast, there’s a good chance they’ll all be thinking about the same unit: The “Saginaw” steering column, which was so ubiquitous between the 1970s and 1990s that you’d find it in everything from AMCs to Chevy trucks to Buick sedans to Jeeps. Saginaw columns — especially the tilt ones — found their way into tens of millions of cars, and while they were generally simple and easy to repair, they suffered on major problem: They’d come loose and just flop all over the place in an alarming way. I know because I’ve experienced it.

The company today is called Nexteer, and its home has been Saginaw, Michigan since the company was established as “Jackson, Church & Wilcox Co.” back in 1906. A few years later, Buick bought the company just before becoming part of General Motors.

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In time, the steering company became the “Saginaw Steering Gear Division of GM” and later just “Saginaw Division,” since it built more than just steering parts. In the 1990s, it became known as Delphi Automotive Systems, an independent company, and in 2010 it became Nexteer and was sold of to Pacific Century Motors.

These days, Nexteer is doing all sorts of development on Advanced Driver Assist technology, but a few decades ago it was all about that classic tilt column. Here it is in my 1991 Jeep Wrangler YJ:

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And here it is in my 1989 Chevy K1500:

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The wheels may look a bit different, and maybe the stalks are a little different, but the columns themselves are identical, and what you’ll find in pretty much anything GM between the 1970s and early 1990s. Here you can see the Saginaw column in a 1987 Buick Century:

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Here it is in a C4 Corvette:

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You get the idea. This thing was in everything, including my old Jeep Grand Wagoneer:

Here’s a little .gif of me demonstrating the problem that these steering columns had — they wobbled all over the place:

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But my Grand Wagoneer’s steering column’s wobble was nothing compared to that of my K1500. I don’t have a video of it with the wheel on, but just watch this video I took after I’d removed the wheel:

My steering wheel got so wobbly that, at one point while I tried doing a u-turn, it actually bound up! Do you know how absurdly dangerous that is?!

Anyway, to fix this, one basically has to tear the column apart in order to tighten four bolts. Yes, sometimes the “pivot pins” on which the wheel pivots when it’s being tilted also wear out, which is why I bought two extras, but the primary cause of the dreaded Saginaw Wobble is four e-torx bolts buried deep inside the column.

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Getting to them takes time and specialized tools, but actually the job itself isn’t too tough. You start by just pulling off the center horn cover. This reveals a little triangular nut retainer that you can remover with a pair of flatheads or a set of pliers. Under that is a 13/16th nut.

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You disconnect the horn wire, zip off the nut, then take the other end of horn wire out of the column, and then break out a special steering wheel puller tool (which you can rent for free from Autozone) to take the wheel off.

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That yields this steering lock plate, which is being pushed towards you from behind via a spring, but which is being held by a little retaining ring in the center shaft.

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To get the lock plate out, you use the same rental tool to push the plate, which gets the stress off the little retaining ring, which you can then remove, at which point the lock plate slips towards you right over the shaft.

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From there, you have to push some wires up from under the dash so you have enough slack to yank the white piece you see in the image above towards you and over the shaft. Then you have to use another special tool to remove the aforementioned pivot pins, which lets to pull all this stuff off:

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This gives you access to the four e-torx xcrews; here’s one of them:Saginaw 8094

All four of my column’s e-torx screwed had loosened to the point where they were just bouncing around in their holes. I tightened them with some loctite, installed some new pivot pins for fun, and now my column is tight.

Here are a bunch of repair videos from folks who have had to deal with the same problem:

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It’s shocking how many vehicles were built with this faulty steering column. And while many of them don’t fail until they’re 30 years old and 200,000 miles, I think something as critical as a steering column should never fail, especially not because the factory decided not to use threadlocker.

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So beware; if you buy an AMC/Jeep/GM product from the 1970s-early 1990s, and the steering column has never been apart, it’s only a matter of time.

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Dave
Dave
1 month ago

Nexteer is actually owned by the Beijing city government.

Tony Mantler
Tony Mantler
1 month ago

I was about to say “Oh yeah that happened to me” except actually it didn’t, the failure in my dad’s jeep was completely different despite having largely the same symptoms.

What happened is that the ball bearing that holds the steering wheel shaft in place broke and ejected all its bearing balls into the driver foot well, at which point the wheel was flopping around completely loose in the column. We fixed it by replacing the ball bearing with a bronze bushing.

Jnnythndrs
Jnnythndrs
1 month ago

IH Scout II’s also used these columns from the mid-70’s onward.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
1 month ago

DT! Saw this ad today and thought you should buy it. The kiddo will fit perfectly in the extended cab, and they didn’t have rear doors on these years so no need to worry about child locks.

It’s a win/win

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/aurora-23k-miles-1994-k2500-4×4/7850262004.html

MST3Karr
MST3Karr
1 month ago

Whatever keeps that baby outta the i3, right?

BuddyThunderstruck
BuddyThunderstruck
1 month ago

So we are now calling something defective and poorly designed because it failed after 30 years and 200k miles?!

Micah Cameron
Micah Cameron
1 month ago

I partly agree with this, but I’ve owned about a dozen cars with over 200,000 miles, and none have ever developed loose steering columns.

All GM had to do was use threadlocker or a lock washer and this problem never would have happened.

It’s weird that no one thought to make sure these super critical bolts couldn’t loosen up over time.

Dennis Ames
Dennis Ames
1 month ago
Reply to  Micah Cameron

“But THINK of how much money was saved!” says the GM bean counter…

Tangent
Tangent
1 month ago

I call it defective and poorly designed because they failed way before that long. My ’89 Camaro had that steering column and it started wobbling in the mid 90s already. It was sometime in 97 or so that one of the bolts fell out completely and jammed the steering momentarily almost causing an accident. (I was broke at the time and had been accepting the wobble as just an annoyance, not knowing it could completely fail like that)

Yellowdog
Yellowdog
1 month ago

Tilt wheel was one of GM’s greatest inventions. The Tilt and Telescope versions were the pinnacle of such devices. Today’s angular drop the columns just don’t cut it. Ford’s swing away wheel in the Thunderbirds was a good design, too. Anything that made getting in and out of the car, except for the GM swivel seats. The GM wheels were easy to move up and down while moving, even though that was discouraged in the owner’s manual. Try adjusting the wheel/column when reaching under the column to find the latch on current offerings that lack power adjustments. Current offerings seem crude by comparison. It’s an option I am sad to see did not make it to current times.
Mercedes expressed its lack of understanding as it had spent so much determining the optimum steering wheel angle for protecting the driver in an impact. Did we lose that tilt wheel design due to airbags?

GirchyGirchy
GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  Yellowdog

Are you one of those weird people (like my dad) who raises their tilt wheel all the way up before exiting the vehicle?

EricTheViking
EricTheViking
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

When I worked at a public library (my first ever job as teenager) in the early 1980s, we had a supervisor who was more or less obese (like egg with toothpicks sticking underneath). He always tilted the steering wheel up before exiting the car. Otherwise, the grime and such on the steering wheel would smear across his pristine ironed shirt.

GirchyGirchy
GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

Ew, David.

My dad doesn’t have that excuse, he is merely obnoxiously annoying.

EricTheViking
EricTheViking
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

“Ew, David.”

Who is David?

Nicklab
Nicklab
1 month ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

It’s a quote from the TV show Schitt’s Creek. David is a character on said show.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 month ago

Yeah GM being GM, the bigger question is what did you find out about the noise and running hot issues?

Jatkat
Jatkat
1 month ago

My Great Grandpa was the general manager of Saginaw back in the 50’s. Moved to Willow Run/the transmission division after that. Pretty proud that the products that were developed during his time were still being used well up into the modern era. I have 2 vehicles with a Saginaw Column in them, (a 1977 Cherokee, and a 95 K2500). Neither have suffered from the condition that David described. I think a lot of them got loose from people using them as a grab handle when getting into the car.

SCW
SCW
1 month ago

My 1985 Chevy C10 had this problem, its a relatively easy fix if you have the right tools.

Hotdoughnutsnow
Hotdoughnutsnow
1 month ago

How did we ever get anything fixed before Youtube and the internet? There’s no way that Chilton’s covered this.

Joe The Drummer
Joe The Drummer
1 month ago

We spent unnecessary thousands at the dealership.

GirchyGirchy
GirchyGirchy
1 month ago

No, we started taking shit apart and figured it out ourselves.

Joe The Drummer
Joe The Drummer
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

Also, yes. But only the small number of people confident enough to take shit apart and try to figure it out. Most people don’t have the time or the skill or the patience.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago

There’s a long list of easy fixes on GM vehicles of that era. My 95 S-10 had a rag joint fail so the steering wheel got a significant amount of sloop. Pain to fix because the cheap pop-rivets that broke had to be drilled out, but there were upgrade parts (bolts with locking nuts) available. Then the wipers would stop working when it rained. Ends up that GM didn’t seal the box the circuit board was in. Replace circuit board and make sure you seal the case when you put it back together. Again easy fix, but fiddly. I had a bit of the steering column wobble when I gave it to my son and now I know that fix too.

It’s the most frustrating thing. Every one of those fixes is something like “put sealant in the box full of exposed wires, loctite this bolt, upgrade to better pop rivets or bolts”

It’s so frustrating, it isn’t even nickeling and diming that leads to GM’s being significantly worse than Toyota for 20+ years. It’s half-pennies and quarter pennies.

The good news is that once it’s fixed, GM built some robust stuff that is “one easy fix” from being great. The bad news is that I think every single component in a GM vehicle is “one easy fix” from being great. From plastic parts that don’t last when exposed to oil that need a change to a different part that is the same price to bushings that they forgot to fuse the rubber to the metal so, the bushing wanders off over time to…

Aron9000
Aron9000
1 month ago
Reply to  Hoser68

Had a 1991 Cadillac Brougham and there were so many little niggly/fiddly things like that. It too had the wipers with a mind of their own, bad circuit board on the wiper motor. The autozone replacements were not any better after a few months. The door lock mechanism for the rod part was made of the cheapest pot metal and broke. The headliner fell down. What was ever wrong with those beautiful vinyl ones with the chrome ribs that GM used to do in the 50s/60s. The seabelt retractors in the back seat siezed up(probably due to lack of use) The vents in the dash were made with old worn out tooling so they flopped around until I put flock tape on them.

Great car, it was very pretty and reliable. But always some little niggly thing was broken. And it was a low mile cream puff. My 1992 Lexus was also very reliable without all the niggly crap breaking.

Jatkat
Jatkat
1 month ago
Reply to  Aron9000

Agreed. That has been one of my greatest annoyances with my (old) GM stuff. Robust and lasting engineering, but juuuuuust executed in a way that means I’m nearly always fixing/tweaking a little thing. I can’t leave well enough alone, none of this stuff really matters, but I want IT TO BE RIGHT.

Jatkat
Jatkat
1 month ago
Reply to  Hoser68

Ah, the ol’ pulse board! I had mine start acting up in my ’95 K2500. Figured the board needed replacing. Turns out, there is a pair of sliding electrical contacts that either lose spring tension over time, or lose contact pad material. I just bent them a bit to make greater contact, and haven’t had an issue since.

GrapeApe
GrapeApe
1 month ago

The sale of Nexteer Automotive to Pacific Century Motors will make the Chinese company the largest private employer in Saginaw, Mich. – NYT article

Ever so often there is a union strike at Nexteer and it doesn’t last long as PCM threatens to fire everyone, pick up all the tooling and make everything in China. You may have feels about tariffs, but tariffs could give UAW more leverage in labor negotiations at Nexteer going forward.

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1 month ago

I will not deal with this problem on my 85 squarebody as it did not come with the pivot feature for the column.

Evan Shealy
Evan Shealy
1 month ago

It is a group of screws that back out over time. It isn’t like something catastrophically fails. If owners take care of it when it starts to feel loose it doesn’t get to the dangerous level.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  Evan Shealy

It’s not the screws, it’s the getting to the screws.

Evan Shealy
Evan Shealy
1 month ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

I’ve done it. It isn’t hard, just takes some time.

J Money
J Money
1 month ago
Reply to  Evan Shealy

Bolts, not screws.

Kurt Kimmerly
Kurt Kimmerly
1 month ago
Reply to  J Money

oh no, don’t be one of those semantics guys, and definitely don’t be one of them if you’re going to come down on the wrong side of the commonly-accepted definition (bolt used with nut, screw threaded directly into component with mating threads)

Evan Shealy
Evan Shealy
1 month ago
Reply to  J Money

It is a cap screw. I threads into a component. Bolts are used with nuts.

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