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The 361 Mile Hyundai Ioniq 6 Is A Striking Road-Trip EV Except For One Thing

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There’s a concept relating to electric cars that I think makes a lot of sense — a concept that I’ve discussed, and one that non-idiots, like automotive designer Henrik Fisker, have discussed. The concept is that when it comes to EVs, which all generally have the same set of driving characteristics thanks to the nature of electric motors – great torque from the get-go, smoothness, silence, no jerks from shifting and so on – the other characteristics of a car, especially styling, become increasingly important. The new 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 is a great demonstration of this concept. It’s an EV that stands out less for the way that it drives and more because of traits like striking styling, a cool user interface and experience, and clever space utilization. Sure, there’s plenty of other important traits, but overall I think the Ioniq 6 is a great case study in an automaker doing a good job of paying attention to what seem to be the qualities of a car that are important to lots of people, and then, you know, building that car. So let’s talk about “that car.”

Actually, if you’d prefer a short sorta-synopsis on video, I have you covered, too:

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How To Evaluate An Electric Car Like This

Well, perhaps before we dive into the specifics of the Ioniq 6, let’s look at exactly what Fisker had to say about EVs, because, again, I think it’s very relevant here:

“Design is going to be increasingly important. When you move to electric vehicles, you’re not interacting anymore with a complex mechanical gasoline engine where the engine noise and response varies extremely from different car companies. So I think values from buyers in the future are going to shift.

“We’re all going to expect fast acceleration, instant torque that we have in acceleration – but we’re going to start looking at other ways to entice the buyer. Exterior and interior design. The user interface. The ride and handling.”

I’d add to this the all-important range number and the state of the recharging network available to the car. Oh, and space utilization and practicality. But, old Henrik is right: styling is incredibly important, because humans really, really care about the way things look. That’s why we have fashion and architecture and industrial design instead of just massively efficient factories churning out generic jumpsuits that we wear in our purely rectangular poured concrete buildings as we choke down nutrient bars that taste like unsalted drywall. We’re not coldly rational beings, we never will be, and I’m just fine with that.

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This is the mindset I think we need to have when thinking about EVs like the Ioniq 6: The intangible and irrational qualities are extremely important, and we have to respect those, because we are intangible and irrational ourselves. Of course, cold, uncaring reality is still something we need to deal with, so don’t think I’m just ignoring all of that. With this in mind, I came away from my time with the Ioniq 6 feeling pretty good about the car. It’s not without its flaws, of course, but it’s also a pleasing object to interact with, a space to exist in, and a tool to use.

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[Full Disclosure: Hyundai flew me out to Arizona and put me up in a hotel that smelled like rich people. The company fed me several times, plied me with alcohol, pretended to tolerate me as a person, and gave me access to engineers and designers. They also never did that thing where one person crouches down behind you while another person shoves you backwards, even though they had ample opportunities to do so. – JT]

The Ioniq 6 starts at $41,600 for the 149 horsepower, 240-mile range base RWD model, and can also be equipped as a RWD 225 hp model with 361 miles of range, or as a dual motor AWD sedan making 320 hp, topping out at over $52,000. We’ll go over all of this later, but let’s dig into my driving experience as much as we can first.

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How The Car Looks In-Person

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I’m going to talk about the design of the Ioniq 6 first because I think this is one of those cars where the styling is an extremely significant trait, because it’s distinctive and, sure, pretty polarizing. In fact, when I wrote about how the styling was at least partially inspired by the legendary Art Deco rear-engined bread loaf known as the Stout Scarab, I’ll admit I was surprised to find a large number of negative comments from our readers regarding the Ioniq 6’s design.

I like the look a great deal, but it’s clear that it’s not everyone’s fistful of chili. In part, I think that’s why I like it: It’s not boring. It’s an unexpectedly busy design, especially from certain angles like the rear three-quarter view, but again, I think that adds to its appeal. A lot of modern design elevates and idolizes ideas of purity of form and cleanliness, but the truth is sometimes having many things on which to focus can help give a car character.

I tend to think that’s at least partially why classic cars, with their large and varied congregations of chrome trim and horn grilles and stuck-on lighting units and creases and fins and vents and whatever, they tend to be things we can relate to emotionally — more so than the smoother, more integrated and more featureless forms that make up so many modern designs.

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Just look at this angle of the Ioniq 6 here; there’s a hell of a lot going on. This is a car not afraid of its own shutlines and panel lines, and wears them almost like some kinds of geometric tattoos. The panel shapes and cutlines are carefully considered, like the one that continues the line of the wraparound heckblende taillight and continues into the wheelarch, dividing the rear quarter panel from the upper bumper skin. The bumper area has a lot going on, too, like the pair of vertical bumper guard-like units on either side that house the rear retroreflectors and reverse lamps. I can’t think of another modern car that has a bumper feature quite like this.

The rear is rounded, and perhaps even a bit droopy, reminding me, as I mentioned before, of the old Infiniti J30’s hindquarters:

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This sort of rounded shape, popular in the early 2000s (think Audi TT, also) demands a spoiler to help keep it planted at speed, and where on older designs of this type those spoilers tended to look like tacked-on afterthoughts, it’s integrated well here. In fact, there’s that spoiler below and then a sort of wing above, incorporating the large third brake lamp and making the Ioniq 6 one of the few cars to come with dual rear spoilers/wings from the factory, like the Merkur XR4Ti:

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I don’t think Hyundai was trying to pay homage to everyone’s favorite fancier Ford Sierra; I think the brand made these choices in order to get the best possible aerodynamic results that it could, and the team seems to have achieved that, with a drag coefficient of 0.21 — one of the best of any car currently built, and better than, say, the Tesla Model 3, which has a Cd of 0.23. That’s also why the car features some peculiar-seeming surface details, like this odd little sculpted rectilinear lump within and below the taillight:

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That’s an aero enabler, directing the wind away from the body at the rear of the car, which helps because of some aerodynamic explanation that has so much math in it that were you to try to explain it to me, I’m pretty sure a lone trickle of blood would drip out of my ear before my head fell heavily to the table, never to rise again.

Crap, now that I look at that little section I can’t not see, of all things, some Chevy Monza in there:

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I mean, I always like the rear end of the Monza, so I can’t feel too bad about that. I just wasn’t expecting it.

I say all this because I want to be clear that the design of this car is not frivolous; there are aerodynamic reasons for much of it, but there is also a very clear design theme at work, playing a lot with the tension between the curvilinear large overarching forms and the smaller geometric details, which seem to be inspired by Hyundai’s Parametric Pixel design language. Here, look at some of the details in the lighting and other places:

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Grids, squares, pixels, whatever you call them. It reminds me of not just pixel art but also the sort of detailing seen in the Postmodern movement, like the postmodern architectural icon Michael Graves’ 1982 Portland Building:

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It’s probably also worth noting that this building is really controversial in the architecture world, with plenty of snobby architecture critics absolutely hating it. Plenty of people like it, too, so I think in that sense the Ioniq 6 feels like a distant relative.

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Around front, the grille-less (there actually are air intakes under the front bumper there, hidden by the two panels to the left and right of those central six squares; yes, those panels are active shutters that open and close as needed) front end really evokes Porsches, though Hyundai design lead Hak Soo Ha insists that Porsches were not a design inspiration. I like the clean front end; it’s so much simpler than the rear, yet still not looking out of place.

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In profile, I think the Ioniq 6 has some real presence. It looks sleek and not exactly futuristic, but almost retro-futuristic, like how we’d have imagined the future at some indeterminate time in the past:

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The challenge of designing an EV sedan as opposed to a crossover or SUV is that the nature of most EV platforms is that they are “skateboard”-like designs with the batteries built into the floor, which makes a very flexible and potentially space-efficient platform, but also one that has a relatively high floor height. This isn’t so much of a big deal for a crossover or SUV, but for a sedan that you’d like to be low and sleek, it’s tricky.

Hyundai pulled it off quite well, I think, and as a result the Ioniq 6 is taller than it looks, a nice bit of visual trickery. The lower black areas of the body help reduce the visual height, as does that curved inset character line, and I think the choice to let the rear door remain just body colored and cut into the black area is interesting.

It seems the there’s a way to get the Ioniq 6 with a sort of inverted color scheme, as I saw a black car that had light gray in place of the black lower areas, and it looked pretty striking:

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I like those wheels, too, like a gleaming silver pizza flying apart. I’m glad Hyundai has this option for black cars, otherwise all the details would get swallowed up by darkness. Speaking of color, Hyundai seems to be doing a bit better than most of this chromatically cowardly industry, having at least three actual colors – a blue, red, and even a green – along with the usual white, silver, and black. Oh, and there’s a gold, too:

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The Ioniq 6 will not get lost in your average Target parking lot. People will notice it. People will see it and their eyes will track it as you drive by, and opinions will form in their heads. They won’t all be positive opinions, but they won’t be boring ones, and I feel that’s high praise for an automobile.

Oh, you know what’s kind of a fun and odd little detail? This:

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That’s the car’s antennae fin, on the roof, but the housing is transparent so you can see all the components inside. Neat!

Oh, while we’re on the roof already, I do think the glass roof area could have been larger. There are so many nearly-full glass roof options out there today, after all.

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Anyway, let’s move into the cabin.

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What I Thought Of The Interior

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I liked the Ioniq 6’s interior a lot. It’s clear that Hyundai expended serious effort to really maximize the interior volume here, and I think the team accomplished that very well, as the car feels roomy front and rear, with plenty of legroom and headroom. Being someone with a body that demands little of either of those, I understand if you may be skeptical, but I witnessed normal-sized and even larger-sized humans sitting in and getting in and out of the front and rear and they looked to have plenty of room, too.

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Like most modern EVs, the rear floor is totally flat, too. You want numbers? Fine, let me find that slide:

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I apologize for the moire pattern but at the same time, it’s kind of pretty, so I don’t feel too badly. As you can see, the Ioniq 6 has best-in-class rear leg room, and front leg room about the same as the Tesla Model 3 and Polestar 2. Front and rear shoulder room are also excellent (a less considered metric but one I feel contributes to a cabin’s sense of roominess) and the overall passenger volume, at 103 cubic feet, is higher than either the Tesla or Polestar. I suspect this overall cabin space was the main target of the design team, because it feels like that’s where most of the effort was put in.

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The trunk isn’t the biggest at 11.2 cubic feet, but it’s pretty roomy and certainly usable, and the rear seat has a 60/40 split fold-down that should make it possible to carry your expected six-foot party subs or javelins or both, depending on what sort of parties you frequent. You may have noted that there is “front storage” listed on that chart, and you may have noted that the Ioniq 6’s volume there, at just half a cubic foot, is pretty tiny, and I do have something to say about that.

First, I want to be clear that I applaud Hyundai, vigorously and loudly, for giving any front trunk space at all. There are plenty of other EV makers, especially from Germany, for some reason, that seem to be loath to carve out some cargo area under the front hood, even if they have empty volumes of space just sitting there. I think the fact that Hyundai has made a well-finished little front trunk area is admirable, but I have one gripe. You see, on the dual-motor Ioniq 6, the front trunk is small because there’s simply less volume available, because there’s a motor unit there. Okay, fair enough.

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That’s part of why if we compare the dual-motor Ioniq 6 front trunk with the one in a Tesla Model 3, the Ioniq 6’s trunk seems so puny:

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But, of course, in this case, the comparison isn’t totally fair, because that Tesla frunk up there is from the single-motor car, and as such has more volume to play with. What about the single-motor Ioniq 6? Shouldn’t that be able to carve out more frunk room?

Well, the answer is yes, but, maddeningly, only if you don’t live in America. For some inane reason – I think maybe that regulation designed to keep kids from somehow getting crammed in trunks – both the single- and dual-motor Ioniq 6s have the same shallow trunk for U.S. market cars, while global market cars enjoy a much deeper front trunk. Look, I found a picture and everything!

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Look at that! It’s like over twice the volume of the one we get! This is a crime! A crime, I tell you! Can’t they just shove in a removable anti-toddler divider like all those supercar makers use? Come on, Hyundai.

The interior materials are interesting; a lot of it uses what seems to be a recycled plastic with a textured surface that resembles a textile like canvas or linen. It’s a kind of material that, while not necessarily overtly “premium,” is one I’ve come to associate with some types of interesting low-volume arty objects I’ve encountered over time, and so I have a set of positive associations with how it looks and feels.

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My driving partner didn’t agree, and didn’t like the material. This may be one of those tactile things that you’d have to decide for yourself; whatever you think of it, it seems durable and hard-wearing, so that’s a plus. That double-decker center console is interesting because I was told by a designer that those side “rails” are designed to be higher than what’s between them so you can set a laptop across the top, using it like a desk.

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What is in between them is something that I’m less fond of: the window controls.

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If you’re not going to put the window controls on the doors, there should be a damn good reason, like you can take the doors off or you have a manual shifter that the driver’s hand is near, anyway. Otherwise, it just feels wrong. My fingers kept fumbling around on the armrest for buttons that were not there. I suppose you could get used to it, but why should you, dammit?

Well, since we’re on the subject of switches, I guess we can go ahead and jump right into this:

Interior Gadgetry

You know what may be the most interesting thing that’s not on the dash of the Ioniq 6? It’s what would have gone here:

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See that odd little wing/wall thing on the side of the dash, with that big flat plastic panel on it? It’s an interesting looking design choice for the sides of the dash, isn’t it? That’s because it was intended to be something else; specifically the place where the screens for Hyundai’s Digital Side Mirrors would go:

Camera-based side mirrors are not legal in America currently, so where the rest of the world has little camera-based side mirrors, we have old-school mirrors. While this does cost the US-spec model a bit of an aero hit (0.22 Cd instead of 0.21), personally I’m glad we don’t have them for two reasons: one, I don’t think screen-based mirrors work as well as physical mirrors (I’ve addressed this before) and, also, there’s just something about adding the complexity of an electronic component like a camera to replace a dumb, cheap mirror that does the same job without power or anything that rubs me the wrong way. Sure, there are aero advantages, but do those compensate for the power draw of the cameras and screens? Maybe? I don’t know. Anyway, we don’t get those here, so find a sticker you like for that little gray slab.

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The instrument cluster is, as you no doubt expect by now, an LCD screen, of about the same size and aspect ratio as the center infotainment screen. Both are large and bright and very high quality, but Hyundai doesn’t expect you to do everything on the screens, which I appreciate. There’s a physical volume knob and physical and separate touch climate/HVAC controls.

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I may have wanted more tactile HVAC controls, but at least these are always present and in the same, expected place. They worked well and in obvious ways, which is what you really want out of something like your climate controls. There’s a little row of other commonly-used functions on physical buttons, and the vents use simple and expected physical sliders to direct the air or to close/open them. Good. This just works. There’s no good reason to navigate an on-screen menu to be able to blow cold air on your crotch in the summer.

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The shifter is a column-mounted stalk, but not quite like the one on your old Pontiac Bonneville; you pick which direction you want to travel by rotating the end there. It works, and it’s nicely out of the way.

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Hyundai’s designers also made a big deal about how they eliminated the company’s badge from the steering wheel center, since you probably know what you’re driving already. They replaced a logo with four lights (four dots is also “H” in Morse code, so there’s an Easter Egg) and those lights give the driver a bit of information, such as when the car is using assistance like dynamic cruise or lane keeping, as well as indicating charging status when plugged in. I like it.

Moving on, do you know what Hyundai/Kia does better than almost anyone else? Wiper controls. Look:

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When you move the stalk, you get this little pop-up window that tells you what your wiper setting is. Most cars just rely on you knowing which notch you’ve set the stalk to, which is often hard to tell. Why doesn’t everyone do it like this? It’s great.

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The interface design for the instrument cluster is pretty legible, even if the 3D, receding-into-the-dash bar graphs laid out like an open book feels a bit arbitrary. The speed and range are clearly visible at a glance, so that’s good, at least. The instruments change look based on the driving modes, Eco, Normal, and Sport. Here’s Sport, which turns the highlight color a more lusty red:

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You can also use Apple Car Play or Android Auto as an alternate infotainment system, unlike Teslas or possibly some other brands in the near future. It is, however, only available when the phone is physically plugged into the USB port via a cable, not Bluetooth. One day I need to sit down and figure out why some carmakers are able to connect to Car Play or Android Auto wirelessly and some aren’t, or don’t.

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Oh, and speaking of weird sounds that can come out of your car, the Ioniq 6 does make replacement noises for the lack of engine sounds while driving, and they’re generally Jetsonian and inoffensive, providing a nice bit of audible feedback when you accelerate. There is also ambient lighting that can change while you drive, but I didn’t really get a chance to drive the car in darkness, so I can’t tell you if that’s a fun experience or not. I mean, it sounds kinda fun?

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In addition to the expected USB A and C ports in the car, there’s also a 120V wall-type outlet under the back seat that can be used for, well, most stuff you plug in. A toaster, maybe. A Vitamix. A massager. I was told by one of the engineers that his team (briefly) ran a welder off the socket! And also a refrigerator for five days, with, they claimed, minimal drain on the battery.

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What It’s Like To Drive The Hyundai Ioniq 6

I suppose were you to hold me at knifepoint and demand that I pick one word to describe the driving experience of the Ioniq 6, my first reaction would be to be gravely concerned about your mental state and perhaps suggest you seek out therapy or the counsel of a trusted clergyperson. Were you to persist, I think I’d pick the word “pleasant,” because, well, it generally is a pleasant experience.

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It’s an easy car to drive; the suspension feels more tuned for comfort than outright performance, and compared to what is arguably the Ioniq 6’s biggest competitor, the Tesla Model 3, it’s not as quick and has a softer, less harsh ride. It’s less performance-oriented, and for most of the people likely to buy one of these, that’s probably fine.

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That’s not to say that it’s not quick; in Sport mode, electro-throttle response changes dramatically, and the Ioniq 6 pulls hard and feels genuinely quick. Not Tesla Model 3 quick, but still pretty damn good. It’s really easy and comfortable to drive at highway speeds, and would make an ideal road trip car were it not for one huge issue that’s not really the fault of the car itself: the lack of a truly reliable and widespread charging network.

That’s really the biggest advantage of a Tesla in this context; its Supercharger network is quite well established and generally a known quantity. Sure, Hyundai’s Electric-Global Modular Platform (E-GMP) allows for 800 volt, 350 kW charging that can go from 10 to 80% charge in 18 minutes — a fantastic achievement — but only if you can find a charger that can accommodate those kinds of speeds.

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(As an aside, I think most EV-makers are using some fun little symbols on their EV pedals now. This time it’s not play/pause, it’s + and -. Maybe we’ll get the hand for stop and a walking guy next?)

Currently (crap, is that a pun?) Hyundai is partnered with Electrify America, and their network isn’t as robust as Tesla’s, both in number of stations as well as the maintenance and reliability of those stations. The Ioniq 6 will pre-heat and prepare the battery for optimal charging when it knows you’re on the way to a charge station, but this only helps if you can find a properly equipped station to use.

If you’re charging primarily at home every night, this is less of an issue, but Hyundai has built a car here that’s roomy and quiet and comfortable and has an impressively long battery range (361 miles for the longest rated version) and by almost every metric would be a terrific long-haul cruiser – if you know you can easily find a place to charge it on your road trip.

I’m hopeful the charging network will continue to improve. While we’re waiting for that to happen, I can tell you about what I think is the Ioniq 6’s most novel driving feature: its paddle shifters.

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Now, I know what you’re thinking: Jason, you idiot, there are no gears to shift here! And, don’t you hate paddle shifters? Well, not exactly. I think most conventional paddle shifters don’t get used very much, and yes, there aren’t any gears to deal with here. In the case of the Ioniq 6, the paddles adjust the brake regen settings, and I think it works really well.

The Cadillac ELR and the Chevy Volt and the VW Golf Blue e-Motion EV also have paddles that adjusted regen, but I’ll be honest and tell you I do not remember what the experience using those was like. What I do know is that on the Ioniq 6, the paddles can switch the level of electric motor regeneration between five levels, with the most aggressive setting providing one-pedal driving and enough regen to quickly bring the vehicle to a stop, and the other extreme setting allowing for truly freewheeling coasting.

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In fact, there’s actually a special dog clutch connected to the front motor unit (when present, of course) that can entirely disconnect the motor from the wheels, which engineers told me can give up to a six percent increase in economy.

What I liked about the paddle regen controls was the ease of adjustment – most other regen systems on EVs I’ve driven have required some sort of screen-and-menu system to adjust these settings – and how that ease encouraged active use of the regen settings to make driving more efficient and engaging. For example, while I still need to actually have an engineer walk me through all the math, there are times when just actually coasting freely is more efficient than using regen to generate electricity to put back into the batteries.

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On a long, straight road with a slight downward incline, it just feels better to glide along and coast, and then when you need to slow down, upping the regen is a great way to do that. Sure, there is an onboard auto-adjusting regen system that uses the radar sensors and is likely quite efficient, but I found the active use of the paddles made driving a bit more fun and engaging, so what’s not to like about that?

If you feel like handing off some of the driving duties to the car, you lazy bum, then Hyundai can help, with a Level 2-ish semi-automated driving system called Highway Driving Assist, and the latest version of that can change lanes if you suggest doing so by turning on the proper indicator.

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Some Tech Talk

The Ioniq 6 is built on the same E-GMP platform as the Ioniq 5 crossover, the Kia EV6 and the Genesis GV60, all of which are taller vehicles. The use here in a sedan context is an interesting demonstration of the flexibility of the platform. It’s a skateboard-type platform like most other EV platforms, and while the battery pack is in the floor, unlike some other platforms, it isn’t a structural, stressed component. Img 6126 3 Large

I know some may consider this a less elegant way to design EVs, but it should make removal and replacement of the battery pack a less invasive procedure; the engineer I spoke with generally agreed, and that same engineer also described how the lithium-ion cells looked in their modules by describing them as being “like Pop Tarts,” which I found very evocative. There are two of these electric Pop Tart battery packs available, a 480 volt 53 kWh one and a larger 697 volt 77.4 kWh one.

The cooling of the battery pack is handled by serpentine channels of coolant flowing below the battery modules, as opposed to Tesla’s cooling channels, which are more integrated throughout the internal cylindrical cells of the battery pack. In discussing the battery cooling system with an engineer, I was most struck by an interesting reality of electric car engineering: heat is a resource.

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In the combustion car world, heat is plentiful, and most of the effort is simply spent trying to expel heat from the system, at least usually. In EVs, there’s a lot less heat to be had, so the heat generated by various systems is carefully monitored and, where possible, routed to places or systems that need the heat, such as batteries for thermal management or such as the cabin, for keeping the people inside from freezing.

I’d never really thought of heat as a precious resource in a car’s powertrain, but it very much can be thought of like that.

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Suspension-wise, the Ioniq 6 has MacPherson struts up front and a multi-link setup at the rear. The steering is rack and pinion, and allows for a 38.8 foot turning circle, which felt pretty tight.

Pricing, Options, and Final Thoughts

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Here are all the ways Hyundai will sell you an Ioniq 6, and how many of your dollars they’ll want in exchange:

IONIQ 6 Trim Level Electric Powertrain Drivetrain Driving Range MSRP
SE RWD Standard Range (18-inch wheels) 149HP rear motor RWD 240 miles $41,600
SE RWD Long Range (18-inch wheels) 225HP rear motor RWD 361 miles $45,500
SE AWD Long Range (18-inch wheels) 320HP dual motor AWD 316 miles $49,000
SEL RWD (20-inch wheels) 225HP rear motor RWD 305 miles $47,700
SEL AWD (20-inch wheels) 320HP dual motor AWD 270 miles $51,200

(By the way, this chart can get cut off on mobile, so here it is as a graphic:

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For me, I think the sweet spot is the RWD 225 hp one with the 361 mile range for $45,500; that’s really only about average price for a modern car, and a lot less than the average transaction price for an EV, which is almost $60,000. For your money you get a non-boring-looking, comfortable, premium-feeling electric four-door sedan that has a lot of character and a great interior.

The charging network isn’t at the level of Tesla’s Supercharger network, and the Model 3 is a better performer, but there’s something I preferred about the Ioniq 6, and it’s not really something you can quantify. This feels like an optimistic car, and somehow conveys less, I don’t know, arrogance than a car like a Tesla. It has its own very specific style that’s not for everyone, but I suspect that there are plenty of people who will appreciate it, and appreciate it a lot.

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Just see if you can get the bigger global market frunk, somehow. We deserve it.

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Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
1 year ago

I just don’t know. If there not going to kneel behind you while another one shoves you over I’m not sure if their our kind of people.

Scott Wangler
Scott Wangler
1 year ago

Trying a test comment after having some IT troubles

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 year ago

Also, I forgot to ask: are you allowed to mention drag coefficients in Tennessee?

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
1 year ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Jason’s based in North Carolina, the bill to ban it made it all the way through the legislature but Gov. Cooper vetoed it.

Mark
Mark
1 year ago

Now I kinda want to go back to 6th or 7th grade when we played with Apple IIs to program a moire effect on screen.

Drew
Drew
1 year ago

Looks like my local dealer is actually going to see a few of these. (Really hit-or-miss with anything electrified here.) I might have to take a test drive and see what the leasing deals are like. Hard to justify, especially given my experiences with Hyundai, but the range and appearance have me making justifications.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 year ago

My first impressions of the overall design were enthusiastically positive when photos appeared a few months back. I’ll reserve final judgement until I can see it out in the world because sometimes cars, like fashion model faces, photograph more attractive than they appear in person. Math, ratios, and angles, you know. But that black paint treatment blows me away. Really enhances the visual appeal. Be curious to see how the other color combos work.

I like that it’s a sedan and not a crossover or SUV. The range is impressive and power is fine. I think it should have a hatch versus trunk, but that’s not a deal killer. Window buttons on the console are fine; I liked that arrangement in my SAAB.

Thanks for an entertaining and informative review. I’ll look forward to more driving impressions in the future.

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 year ago

That was an interesting read; thank you!

I would never buy one of these (Hyundai, eww) but it’s nice to see that practical range is approaching the target I’ve set. Right now I can fill my car’s tank in a few minutes and get 400 miles of highway range, and will expect the same level of “refueling” for an EV at some point in the future.

Side note: 225hp and RWD was also the configuration of the Mustang GT in 1990. 🙂

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 year ago

So someone tell me more about the coolant in EVs – is it the same or same-ish as we put in ICE vehicles? Does it have changing intervals? Can you do it yourself, or is it a only-the-dealer-has-the-special-magnetic-wrench-to-open-the-port sorta thing we regrettably see more and more of these days?

Dsa Lkjh
Dsa Lkjh
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

It’s the same coolant, mostly. Some HV bits might use a non-conductive cooling oil instead.

You’ll be able to top it up, and probably drain it to refill, but you might not be able to run a degassing procedure without dealer privileges depending on how complex the system is and how much of a dick the manufacturer is.

I’ve no idea on service intervals, everything high voltage I’ve worked on has been prototypes or research projects.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 year ago
Reply to  Dsa Lkjh

Fascinating – thank you Cap’n.

While working on my (ICE) stuff this weekend, I was thinking about all the various brands of fluids, consumable parts, etc. that we’ve come to think of as part of the automotive landscape, and it struck me how plenty of them are going to start to fade. I mean, even more…you watch say IndyCar, and it’s amazing how few of the sponsors produce vehicle-related products, unlike back in the day.

Dar Khorse
Dar Khorse
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

It’s a special magnetic left-handed wrench, actually.
Short Answer: EV coolants don’t go through the same severity of temperature swings that ICE car coolants do, so they last much longer. They are supposed to be checked every 10 years/100,000 miles or so and replaced if necessary. I don’t know if they are user-replaceable or not.

Longer answer: Automotive coolants are all mostly a mixture of ethylene glycol and water, but it’s the anti-corrosion additives that make them different from each other. I used the bulleted text feature below, so hopefully it maintains that format. Otherwise, this is going to look like a long paragraph.

  • Inorganic Acid Technology (IAT) is the old-school green coolant, and it contains silicates, borates, phosphates and nitrates in varying amounts, depending on the manufacturer.
  • Hybrid Organic Acid Technology (HOAT) is the yellow coolant that contains some of the inorganic additives, along with some proprietary organic acids. I couldn’t find any references for which organic acids are used, but they have to be water soluble, so think citric, lactic, formic, etc. This can be mixed with IAT to an extent.
  • Organic Acid Technology (OAT) is the orange coolant that contains no inorganic additives at all and cannot be mixed with HOAT or IAT coolants.
  • EV coolants coolants are formulated to have super-low electrical conductivity and very high wetting capabilities. So they don’t have either inorganic or organic acid additives, and I suspect they probably have water soluble silicone oils or something like that in them, but they are proprietary, of course.

References:
https://irontite.com/a/26-understanding-the-different-antifreeze-types-for-your-car
https://www.tomorrowstechnician.com/long-life-coolants-explained/
https://www.dober.com/performance-fluids/electric-vehicle-coolants

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

As others have mentioned it is the same or same-ish as used in ICE vehicles. Changing it on the other hand can be something that you need a vacuum fill system to do but so do some current ICE vehicles. Some also require the use a scan tool to be able to properly bleed the system by manually cycling the coolant pump(s) and switching valves.

NW_6MT
NW_6MT
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

I have a Kia EV6 (same platform). It has a 100k service interval on the coolant. Only actual scheduled service interval the car has, I think. Assume I can do it myself if it gets to that, but haven’t looked into it at all.
Side note: EV6 has the same wiper setup. Never thought anything of it popping up on the screen. Guess it’s useful? Hate that it doesn’t have a standard, timed intermittent option though. The auto position has 4 settings via a little toggle on the stalk but they don’t appear to be linear or reproducible from what I can tell. Still just do whatever they want. Perhaps I’m just not smart enough to figure it out, but I’ve had it for almost a year and the lack of traditional intermittent wipers and having to switch back and forth with the capacitive touch buttons for radio/climate controls are the two things I really don’t like about the car.

W124
W124
1 year ago

As general I think the design is contemporary, but still stylish in a timeless way. I see some old streamliners like Tatras in it, but also some Citroen DS, altough I admit this isn’t maybe beautiful in the same way than the mentioned DS.

Designs like these are making Tesla design look dated, which it actually is.

Drew
Drew
1 year ago

Bumper turn signals are at least larger than a lot of them are lately. I’m never going to like them, but these are better than some.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
1 year ago

First and foremost this is an incredible review. Well done Torch. Overall I think this seems like a pretty compelling package and an excellent alternative to a Model 3. While Tesla may have the supercharger network, it also has Elon Musk, some of the worst interiors in the industry, and a rabid, cult like following of libertarian basement dwellers. I’d take this over a Model 3 all day every day.

Second, are there really droves of people who dislike this design? I feel like enthusiasts have been banging the table for more interesting designs, less crossovers, etc. Well…here’s an interesting sedan. You can’t always have your cake and eat it too. Be happy that Hyundai was willing to let their freak flag fly, even if it ain’t your cup of tea.

The driving experience sounds…inoffensive. I actually haven’t driven an EV yet but that seems to be the consensus as to what 99% of them are like. It is what it is…I think that 225 horsepower RWD, 361 mile range model will be mighty compelling in California or other areas with nice weather and good infrastructure. If you don’t need AWD or the extra performance that’s clearly the sweet spot.

All in all I like this car and I’m anxiously awaiting the N versions of this and the Ioniq 5. If they can actually inject some driving character into these I could potentially be swayed…and if there’s someone that can pull it off it’s probably Biermann. Although those cars are likely to come in dangerously close to some serious ICE performance cars, so they’ll have to come correct.

Jonathan Myers
Jonathan Myers
1 year ago

Musk is a nutjob but it is not like Hyundai is some sort of saint of a company. They are currently dealing a child labor problem in their US supply chain and they are not doing a very good job dealing with the USB vehicle thefts. Personally I would only buy a car with a hatchback because I find hatches to be much more useful. Get these specs on a hatch or wagon and I would consider buying one.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonathan Myers

I really have no idea why this isn’t a hatch. Honestly I think it’s to pander to the American market where the word hatchback is an affront to peoples’ insecure masculinity. CAN’T HAVE A HATCH, THAT’S A CAR FOR HIPPIES AND LIBERULS, etc.

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
4 months ago

I’m guessing that the torsional rigidity of a hatch opening would become a handicap for long term quietness/NVH. W/ a “monstrous” 11cu ft. trunk, fold down seats would be more convenient to utilize for cargo w/ a hatch.

Bork Bork
Bork Bork
1 year ago

Looks like the N might be fun, at least on snow.

https://youtu.be/694q9tA16pY

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 year ago

This could be a great replacement for my Polestar 2 that I am leasing, cheaper and longer range, along more space in the cabin judging from the pictures. I hope the dealerships are not doing insane markups

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 year ago

Others have covered the technical points better than I would have, so I’ll just add along the lines of Torch’s opening point that it’s great that this is a sedan.

It gives me hope that the future (once again) might be sleek and stylish, not all giant faux-offroad vehicles barreling down urban streets.

Arch Duke Maxyenko
Arch Duke Maxyenko
1 year ago

Oh, a thought just occurred to me, would it be possible to have someone go undercover to a dealership outside of a metropolis to see what the process is of buying one is like? Like an addendum to all of the new EV reviews, sure you can buy one, but at what cost? Especially with Hyundai dealerships being notoriously shitty

Kuriti
Kuriti
1 year ago

Our 2019 Honda Insight has regenerative paddles. They are great in the mountains, but I never use them on flatlands. Basically I find they are equivalent to down shifting so you don’t blow your brakes up. I’m on the fence for styling. Time will tell, but agree something different is something better.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 year ago

Whoever designed that IP screen sure played a lot of Tempest.

OnlyFlans
OnlyFlans
1 year ago

I simply cannot understand why Hyundai/KN/Genesis can’t or won’t add wireless smartphone mirroring. Every year I read an article talking about how their engineers promise it’s coming “right around the corner”, and every year it’s curiously absent (but only on their nav-equipped models…the base trims DO have it wirelessly for some odd reason). Maybe they’re just waiting to see how it works out for GM before going all in.

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Arch Duke Maxyenko
Arch Duke Maxyenko
1 year ago
Reply to  OnlyFlans

It’s so the USB cable is always accessible to the car thieves, it’s actually really considerate of Hyundai/Kia

Ron888
Ron888
1 year ago

Well done Jason.As always your slightly odd sense of humor works great 🙂

It’s an odd design for sure.Some parts are so normal they could be any car yet those few odd choices are REALLY odd.
Believe it or not i’m actually seeing a Rover SD1 in the front end! Yes,weird i iknow.
The back is ok in theory, it’s the shear scale of the shrinkage and the downward angle that’s awkward. I’ll probably change my mind when i see one on the street.Or not.Whatever.
I wish them well.They seem to have a decent combination of range and price.

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron888

The back seems fine to me… but it’s the overall arch of the roofline and center of the car’s side profile. From some angles it has an aggressive “poised and ready to pounce” look. From other angles, it looks like the designers were just overly fascinated by arch truss bridges and couldn’t quite tame the obsession. And from still others, it just transmits too much visual tension. Something in the combination of the slight arch in the rocker panel area, the rear door window area, and the overall profile of the rear of the roofline into the tail of the car just doesn’t quite hit the mark with me. But it’s something that really looks like if there’d been just a little more attention to detail like was clearly lavished on so many other parts of the car, it could have been perfect. Frustrating.

Data
Data
1 year ago
Reply to  UnseenCat

It’s because the rear looks like it is melting.

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
4 months ago
Reply to  UnseenCat

The arch of the top and rocker are reminiscent of the pickle designs that some aerodynamicist’s claim is the lowest drag shape for a car.

Andrew M
Andrew M
1 year ago

Window buttons in the center are fine IMO. My 94 SL1 and 02 SC1 were both that way and it wasn’t a problem.

At least it has four individual switches instead of the abomination that is the ID.4 setup (two switches and a flaky touch selector to make them operate the front set or back). One of the many stupid controls that makes me hate driving this car every day.

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew M

I actually prefer having the window switches in the center console, particularly when there’s a raised armrest/cubby section, and the switches are mounted on the front (usually sloping) surface. It just feels natural to me. (Either that, or I’m a monster.)

Also, window switches on the doors, especially anywhere on the armrests, just get rain and snow on them every time the door is opened in bad weather, which can’t be terribly good for them in the long run.

Andrew M
Andrew M
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew M

Also: a hard button for auto-hold! I like having it on for regular driving (being able to take your foot off the brake at red lights or stopped traffic is nice) but I need it off for backing in to my garage (I’m always slightly worried about launching it into the back wall when I hit the go pedal after stopping to check my line-up). But since it’s controlled by a soft button on the screen, you can’t access the setting when the ID.4 is in “park” mode and displaying the rear camera. I have to put it in park, turn off auto-hold, then go back to reverse.

CSRoad
CSRoad
1 year ago

Good read, my coffee got cold.

GertVAG
GertVAG
1 year ago

Nice article ! Love the design. But about the Merkur: isn’t that a Ford Sierra instead of an Escort in your comparison ?

W124
W124
1 year ago
Reply to  GertVAG

Yes, exactly that! Give honor to the Ford it belongs!

SarlaccRoadster
SarlaccRoadster
1 year ago

Great review, Jason!

My thoughts:

149hp for a relative heavy car seems.. lacking; I test-drove a Bolt and despite the instant torque of the electric motor it felt ‘meh’ for a new car these days, I think this would likely be worsewhy can’t we have a proper hatch instead of the crappy trunk, if it already has a sloped backside?? this really pisses me off, and it’s why I won’t buy a Model3; at least that one can use the excuse of the glass roof (which I don’t care for anyway)I think the pricing is pretty good compared to its competition (I also think the rear motor 225hp version is the sweet spot), although some of those might get some rebates this one might not qualify for

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Jakob Johansen
Jakob Johansen
1 year ago

Will do 0-100/62 < 9 seconds.
Bolt will do that in less than 7 seconds.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
1 year ago

I’ve been waiting for this article. Looking forward to seeing one in a parking lot so I can grok it in person. In the alternate reality where I might buy one, I’d be interested in knowing if there was a way to turn off the nannies. I’d get the Rwd 225hp model, of course, and would need to find how the + pedal turns the rear rubber into expensive smoke.

MrLM002
MrLM002
1 year ago

I like the transparent antenna more than I should.

My general policy with plastics is simple. I want them to be clear or to glow in the dark.

Drew
Drew
1 year ago
Reply to  MrLM002

Kinda want to put a little light in there so that that clear plastic glows.

Andrew Baglio
Andrew Baglio
1 year ago
Reply to  Drew

They should make it less tinted and let us pick the LED color that illuminates it. Or color code it in a purple/orange/green/blue depending on the car color. I want it to match my Gameboy color

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
1 year ago
Reply to  MrLM002

It’s a great idea, surprised nobody’s done it before. Saves the cost of color-match painting while being a cool detail and not cheap-looking like matte black would be.

Lighting it up might have regulatory issues, but the relevant regs are mostly from 1968 and opera lights were common in the mid ’70s into the ’80s so it would be worth looking into.

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
1 year ago

Wow! Thanks JT. Reminds me of my Citroën CXes, especially the rear seat roomyness and the beautiful outer lines. Wish I could afford one.

That steering wheel pad also has a bit of 1967 SAAB 96 style to it. Love it!

I was going to take a trip in the 356 in the sun, but now I’m going to read the whole thing with a cup of coffee first.. (Just saw the video)

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