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German EV Makers Don’t Seem To Care About Frunks And I Think That’s Pretty Weird

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I tend to fetishize a number of automotive details, most likely the result of growing up with leaded gasoline and adoring the smell of those old metal-barreled magic markers. Among these details are taillights, turn indicators, door handles, and, of course, trunks. Especially front trunks, now commonly referred to by the portmanteauĀ frunks. You know, like Frookies. Frunks have become quite common on many electric vehicles being made today, thanks to the packaging opportunities made possible by the now nearly ubiquitous skateboard-style EV platforms most carmakers use. And yet, for some reason, one country in particular has carmakers that don’t seem to care about frunks, and I find this odd. That country is Germany, so let’s talk about the seeming Teutonic disinterest in frunks.

Just so we understand how pervasive frunks have gotten in the EV space, here’s a partial list of mainstream EV makers that are selling cars and/or trucks that have some sort of cargo compartment up front: Ford, Tesla, Rivian, Kia, Hyundai, Volvo, Polestar, Chevrolet ā€“ there’s a lot. It’s by no meansĀ all, but it is a pretty significant number of mainstream EVs.

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Now, it’s not that these frunks necessarily offer so much extra cargo room (though some, especially the ones found on electric pickup trucks, certainly do) but more that the extra space is useful for things that tend to rattle around in trunks anyway: tire inflation equipment, first aid kits, maybe a blanket, brake fluid bottles, rags, ice scrapers, you know, utility stuff that I bet you have in your car right now.

And, for EVs, there’s always the issue of charging cables. Sure, most EVs, frunked or otherwise, have a compartment beneath the usual cargo area for them, but if you’re on a road trip and you need access to your 120/240V charging cable (and let’s be honest, if you normally charge at home or in public charging points, on a road trip is when youĀ will beĀ most likely to need them) you really don’t want to have to unpack all your stuff just to get to the cables. A separate cargo compartment is great for all this sort of stuff.

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They’re just useful! They may not be a deal breaker, but if there’s an open volume of space inside your car somewhere, whyĀ shouldn’tĀ it be available for your use?

That’s what bothered me about the Volkswagen ID.4 when I tested it. There absolutely was enough room under that hood to house a useful frunk, and I know this to be true because I tested it out by packing a lot of stuff in it and driving around:

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It’s not just me who thinks there could have, perhaps even should have been a frunk in the ID.4. People are talking about it on owner forums, and there’s even some basic frunk kits being sold, made in part from recycling bins:

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Clearly,Ā someĀ people agree that there could have been some extra cargo room in there. And it’s not just VW; BMW, whichĀ didĀ have a frunk in their first EV, the i3, has gone frunkless for their more recent EVs like the i4, something that has baffled our pal Jason Fenske of Engineering Explained:

 

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He’s right to be frustrated. It’s not like the i4Ā couldn’tĀ have had a frunk roughly equal in size to the Tesla Model 3’s useful frunk, it’s that BMW just seems to not have bothered. The empty volume is there, as Jason demonstrated on his car, fitting that whole carry-on bag into that open void under the hood. A little bit of hose re-routing and some sort of plastic tub set in there, and boom, the BMW i4 could easily have a front cargo area big enough to be genuinely useful.

So why don’t they? And why does it seem to be primarily German cars ā€“ BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen ā€“ that seem so resolute to not give a damn about frunks?

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Well, I suppose there is one significant German car exception: Porsche’s Taycan EV does have a frunk, but that makes sense, as Porsche has a long history with frunks. I mean, if you think about it, Germany has likely produced more frunks over automotive history than any other car-making nation, mostly thanks to tens of millions of rear-engined VWs, but there were also Porsches and NSUs and other rear-engined makes, too. They have real funk heritage. Frunkitage. Which just makes the current seeming anti-frunk stance all the stranger.

I get that frunks aren’t free; there are absolutely material and engineering costs associated with installing a frunk. You have to plan out the volume of space, you have to have it lined with some sort of durable material, you need to seal it off enough to keep the contents dry and filth-free, it makes maintenance and repair trickier ā€“ there’s more factors than you might think.

And, this would be a fantastic argument for why frunks just aren’t worth the effort, except for the fact that so many other carmakers have, you know, figured it out just fine. And I’m pretty certain that if Kia can solve the complex engineering challenges of being able to store some crap under the hood, BMW can damn well figure it out, too.

I’ve asked representatives of BMW and Volkswagen about this, right to their faces, and I got essentially the same answer from both companies: what the hell do you need a frunk for when we have so much room in back?

I mean, on one level, they’re not wrong; none of the cars I’ve been talking about has a meager trunk or cargo area by any means. VW also said they used that volume to house components to push the passenger volume more forward, and make it larger, and while I suppose that may be true, it’s not like any of the frunked cars have cramped passenger volumes and it doesn’t answer the question of the dead volumes of space present under the hood of the ID.4, for example.

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Id4trunkHere’s my problem, though: it doesn’t matter that the rear cargo areas are generous. That’s not the point. When so many other carmakers have figured it out, it feels like those other carmakers give just that much more of a shit about you than the carmakers that didn’t bother to provide any storage at all.

I’m not saying it’s entirely rational; but cars and why we buy them hasĀ neverĀ been rational. All I know is that when I find that a Hyundai Ionic 5 has carved out a strange, little volume of space up front where i could stash some charging cables or tire chains or wet bathing suits or something like that, I feel like some engineer or packaging designer actually gave a shit, and tried their best to make my experience with the car as good as possible, giving me access to volumes of space in that car because I deserve it, dammit.

With the BMW i4, I’m hauling around a big empty void that nobody at BMW could be bothered with to make useful for me, their dedicated and loyal customer. Something about that rubs me wrong.

I know the strange coincidence of the big German automakers not bothering with frunks isn’t because of engineering issues. If they wanted to, they absolutely could do what carmakers from the US, South Korea, Sweden, and China are doing. And, I suppose you could say the same about Japanese EV makers, though Honda’s new Prologue, based on GM’s Ultium platform,Ā mightĀ have one, but so far that’s not been revealed.

There’s some sort of ideological reason going on here. There’s two schools of thought: the customer should get to use whatever volumes of space we can carve out, or the customer doesn’t need some dumb little compartment under the hood. One is a bit more focused on giving the customer options, the other based on steering the customer to what the carmaker thinks is best, or at least good enough.

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I think this is worth discussing, and I’ll keep asking the frunkless carmakers, German or otherwise, for their reasoning.

Because someone has to.

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Jay Vette
Jay Vette
1 year ago

So if “frunk” is a portmanteau of “front trunk” and the British call trunks “boots”, do they call frunks…froots???

Jeff Gillio
Jeff Gillio
1 year ago

Maybe they just don’t like the word frunk, so they don’t want to include a space that may be called that.

Ivan256
Ivan256
1 year ago

“it doesnā€™t answer the question of the dead volumes of space present under the hood of the ID.4, for example.”

Didn’t you see the commercial? They were under a lot of pressure. It was coming from everywhere!

Pressure makes hemorrhoids.

Ben
Ben
1 year ago

“what the hell do you need a frunk for when we have so much room in back?”

That’s got to be right up near the top of the pantheon of stupid marketing answers. Do they really think that no one will ever fill up the trunk and/or have a reason to want two separate storage compartments? And if you have a bunch of air space in front, why would you let that go to waste? I’m always hearing how hard packaging is in cars, and yet they’re going to allow this massive inefficiency to exist?

unclesam
unclesam
1 year ago
Reply to  Ben

Once in a while I take the dog for a hike in one of the many pack-in-pack-out parks around here. A frunk would be a perfect place to transport the inevitable poop bag.

Lokki
Lokki
1 year ago

Color me sociological, but I think that anti-frunkism is a cultural thing specific to the Germans because: VW Beetle. Everybodys’ grandpa and his brother had at least one of them, and when you show them your mega-euro high-end EV and they see the frunk the first thing Gramps or his brother will say is, “Jah, just like mein Beetle in 1963.* (Note to Ed – replace with proper German, please). Then, every freakin time you see him after that he will mention it. So frunks are just too dĆ©classe.

The nearest American counterpart I can think of would be driving a mini-van….

Greg Franklin
Greg Franklin
1 year ago
Reply to  Lokki

I cannot recall reading text that fully conveyed an accent as well as you just did.

Nick Fortes
Nick Fortes
1 year ago
Reply to  Lokki

This is the most logical explanation I’ve heard

PL71 Enthusiast
PL71 Enthusiast
1 year ago

I can’t really imagine many uses the average person would have for a frunk, beyond a truck where you can’t put stuff in the back and keep it dry (but you can put it in the back seat…). Even nasty stuff is getting removed from the car as soon as I get home so it doesn’t really matter if I just throw it in the trunk/rear hatch. I do find the idea of empty space frustrating. But then again in most cases frunks look to be only a couple of cubic feet. So I guess I understand why they don’t bother but they might as well use that empty space because why not.

Vicente Perez
Vicente Perez
1 year ago

And even when they give a frunk, they donā€™t really give a frunk. The frunk in the i3 is not weather insulated. Meaning, whatever you put in there, is going to get covered in dust, grime and dead leaves. It would just take a strip of rubber to prevent that butā€¦ nope, this would be one step too far!

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 year ago

Perhaps unrelated to the topic of the article but what the heck is going on in that picture of the Mach-E?!? Why does it look like they’re holding a cock fight, especially since it looks like the person on the right is holding some paper currency like there’s some betting involved? Is that Mach-E owned by Wilford Brimley or something??

Ecsta C3PO
Ecsta C3PO
1 year ago

If I remember correctly, it’s a throwback to his article back on “that other site” where he discusses other uses for the Mach E frunk because it’s easily washable. It think some other uses were as chili storage at a tailgate, or fill with ice and cocktail shrimps.

JDE
JDE
1 year ago

I imagine they are not wanting the heat or electronics under the Frunk space to be affecting or affected by liquids or excessive loads. but like cupholders if enough emphasis is made in the next few years the frunk will return. Honestly I would rather have a briefcase sized backup battery space to use if and when the range changes dues to hills or something else unexpectedly. basically an old Honda Insight battery to get me 10 miles or so in a pinch.

Erik Hancock
Erik Hancock
1 year ago

So, ā€œfrunkā€ is a portmanteau of ā€œfrontā€ and ā€œtrunk,ā€ referring to a covered cargo area for carrying things. The word ā€œtrunkā€ originally referred to a type of luggage. The word ā€œportmanteauā€ is itself a portmanteau of the French words ā€œporterā€ (to carry) and ā€œmanteauā€ (to cover). A portmanteau is also a type of luggage that would split into a front half and a back half, which was what inspired Lewis Carroll to describe two words pushed together into a single word. A trunk in the front half and one in the back half is really like half an actual portmanteau, or a semi-portmanteau, with the front being an avantportmanteau – which itself isā€¦ why is my nose bleeding?

Turn the Page
Turn the Page
1 year ago

“what the hell do you need a frunk for when we have so much room in back?”

“Thereā€™s some sort of ideological reason going on here.”

Yup, like no cupholders back in the day. They’ll come around to frunks in a decade or two.

PL71 Enthusiast
PL71 Enthusiast
1 year ago
Reply to  Turn the Page

To be fair the Germans are so bad at cupholder ergonomics/durability that a lot of the time they just shouldn’t bother trying anyways. For example MK4 cupholders practically interfere with the shifter. B6/B7 cupholders are only convenient on the highway where you don’t have to shift. The pop-out center rear armrest designs VAG likes either break or jam.

Dsa Lkjh
Dsa Lkjh
2 years ago

For about 15 years I had either a mk1 or mk2 MR2 as my daily driver. I loved that they had frunks, but I only ever used them when the one at the back was full. I think it was entirely down to having the extra safety catch to open it.

My S1 Elise had a forward hinged frunk lid, so opened with a single pull. But there was no space in there for anything bigger than a can of tyre inflator.

Martin Ibert
Martin Ibert
2 years ago

I tend to agree with MrLM002 — priority one should be to minimize dead volume by simply making the car smaller/shorter on the outside. But if that is not an option (passenger crash protection, maybe? that would require some space for the sheet metal to crumble into), absolutely give us a frunk instead.

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