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The Weirdest Honda Insight On The Internet Gets 70 MPG With A 20 HP Mini Excavator Diesel Engine

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One of the most fuel-efficient cars ever sold in America is the first-generation Honda Insight. When it launched in December 1999, the Environmental Protection Agency slapped it with an incredible 70 mpg highway rating. Sadly, only some people in real life hit that lofty number, and then the EPA later revised its methods, knocking the Insight down to a still impressive 61 mpg rating. As it turns out, there’s a super weird way to get 70 mpg out of an Insight, and it’s by tearing out the hybrid system and installing a cute 20 HP diesel engine meant for a mini excavator.

This wild project comes from the madman behind the Robot Cantina YouTube channel. The charismatic host, who calls himself Jimbo, loves creating silly things just for the fun of it. Jimbo is the mastermind behind such projects as making a hybrid golf cart, giving a Saturn ‘Cylinder Deactivation’ through deleting its engine’s valvetrain, and powering a first-generation Honda Insight with a Harbor Freight Predator 212cc engine. If you’re not in the know, that’s an engine commonly used in go-karts and minibike builds.

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Jimbo is pretty upfront when he says that these projects aren’t done for real practicality. He doesn’t seriously expect you to gut your car to replace its engine with a Predator mill. Jimbo also doesn’t expect you to do what he did in the video below, and fill your former hybrid car with a 20HP 719cc Kubota D722 diesel engine, which normally goes into mini excavators and other things that aren’t cars.

We’ve been fans of Robot Cantina for a while, and I’ve been periodically writing stories about Jimbo’s videos since 2021. His projects are just that alluring!

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Before Jimbo begins explaining how he squeezed 70 mpg out of this thing, he talks about why he put Predator engines and then a Kubota engine in an Insight in the first place. As I noted above, even with the EPA’s corrected numbers, the Insight gets epic fuel economy. It took Toyota until 2015 to finally unseat the Insight as the mpg champion, and even then, the Prius only beat the Insight’s post-2008 revised fuel economy numbers.

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To some, the first-generation Insight remains the holy grail of hybrids. It was designed with a lightweight aluminum structure, was originally equipped with a manual transmission, and its drag coefficient of 0.25 made it the most slippery car on the market at the time. The original Insight is even DIY-friendly, and something I like is that due to Honda’s design of the hybrid system, the car can still start and drive even after a battery failure. It’s no surprise that there’s no shortage of Insights with well over 300,000 miles.

Jimbo acknowledges all of that as true. However, he chose the Honda Insight because the same traits that make it a great hybrid also make it a great platform for stupid engine swaps. The low weight and slippery aero are great if you’re trying to fit a lawnmower engine into a car and have any sort of expectation of hitting the speed limit. Amazingly, Jimbo found out that a stock Predator 212 is good for 39 mph in an Insight.

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In previous episodes, Jimbo worked through a bunch of experiments involving the three-cylinder Kubota D722 engine. This is an interesting little powerplant. It comes from Kubota’s Super Mini engine family, which launched in 1983. Kubota says it was the world’s smallest multi-cylinder diesel engine series with a 62.2mm stroke and around 200cc per cylinder, depending on configuration.

At first, the engine was bolted into a Saturn, but that car was so worn out that it had to be scrapped before the project was finished. Then, Jimbo tried to fit a Volkswagen 1.6-liter diesel into the Insight shell, but found that the engine was so big that it was a tight fit.

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Jimbo says that fitting the Kubota into the Insight was a difficult task.

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The big hurdle was with the transmission, as the Insight’s manual transmission ratios were incompatible with the low-power diesel. But that’s where the earlier attempted Saturn swap comes in, because the Saturn MP3 five-speed close-ratio manual transmission is a good fit for the diesel. Mounting the engine and transmission wasn’t hard, either, as Jimbo just made custom mounts that bolted into the Insight’s existing structure without modification. Click here to watch those videos.

Last summer, Jimbo added an AMR500 supercharger to the Kubota, and he targeted an output of 30 HP to 35 HP. That was good for a 55 mph sprint in about 20 seconds. Viewers have been begging Jimbo to go with a turbo, so this year, he tossed the AMR500 out and replaced it with an RHB31 turbocharger. This turbo slowed the car down and made it take around 10 seconds longer to reach 55 mph.

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Jimbo is correcting some of those faults in this video. First, there’s a loose bolt that needs to be tightened. He also needs to fix a pinhole in his welding work, both of which appeared to cause a massive boost leak. Some welding and some sanding fixed the holes created from the original welding job.

Next, Jimbo notes that the engine was getting way too much fuel during the initial turbo testing. This is bad, and not just because of the black, dirty smoke. Exhaust gas temperatures (EGT) were dangerously high. In extreme instances, super high EGT values can lead to melted pistons or even a catastrophic engine failure, followed by an instant unscheduled roadside disassembly. Fixing this on the Kubota was as easy as adjusting the fuel rack limiter screw.

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With that out of the way, Jimbo takes the car out onto the road. I was a bit impressed that this little engine was powerful enough to allow the Insight to maintain 64 mph on level ground. Jimbo noted that EGTs were about 750 degrees during this, which was safe for the engine.

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It’s not supposed to smoke like this. Robot Cantina/YouTube

Next, Jimbo settles into a cruise of 55 mph for the mpg run. The car’s doing great in this setting with EGTs down to about 560 degrees. Sadly, the turbo isn’t doing so hot here as it’s putting out only 2.5 PSI. Worse, Jimbo notes, is that fifth gear is so tall in the Saturn MP3 transmission that the engine loses all boost and has to spend a bunch of time rebuilding it.

Despite this, Jimbo completes his mileage test. To measure fuel economy, he measured the weight of the diesel at the beginning of the run and at the end of the run. The Insight carried about 12.8 kilograms (about 28.2 pounds) of diesel at the start of the run. Once Jimbo got home, he measured again, finding that the car burned through roughly 2.8 kilos (6.1 pounds) of diesel.

Before revealing the final score, Jimbo then hopped into a stock Honda Insight and took that on a 60-mile loop of rural Kansas. During the drive, he notes that his car’s hybrid battery is bad, so it’s not performing as well as it could. Still, after 60 miles of driving the speed limit, the car returned to home base with a score of 62.7 mpg.

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The diesel returned a great 70.1 mpg. For reference, my 2006 Smart Fortwo diesel will get 70 mpg all day. Amusingly, the 800cc three-cylinder turbodiesel in my Smart is only slightly larger than the Kubota engine and makes only 40 HP. So this turbodiesel Insight is not far off!

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Yet, as Jimbo notes, the current turbo is so inefficient at its job that the supercharger did better, scoring 78.6 mpg with far better performance. Jimbo says he’s not done yet, as he’s currently looking into using a snail from a Smart Fortwo diesel or one from a Volkswagen Lupo TDI. So, maybe there’s still a chance for a better turbo to beat the supercharger.

Again, none of this is really all that practical. It’s all in the name of fun, and I dig it. Everyone’s into K20 swaps and lithium conversions, yet here’s Jimbo over here slinging the dumbest, yet seemingly most fun swaps on the Internet. Click here to watch more of Jimbo’s madness.

H/T to the Drive!

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John Bostwick
John Bostwick
1 day ago

Sunday mornings, I am always looking forward to watch Robot Cantina. He is not trying to get more MPG, he is just trying to see if he can get small engines to power cars. Then seeing if he can improve them without spending much money. I like that he takes what he does and shows the viewer how to do it themselves if would ever do this themselves.

He has been working on some golf carts lately with what he calls a “petroleum battery” Using an Kubota engine to power an alternator that is connected to an electric motor and seeing how fast they can go.

Would I ever do any of his builds? Nope But, he makes it fun to watch every Sunday morning.

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
2 days ago

I can’t imagine doing 300K miles in what always seemed to be a penalty box to me. But I’ve never been in one, so I don’t know.

And since you, Mercedes, are so into diesel and bikes, how have you not done a story on HF powered minibikes?

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 day ago

It’s basically a CRX, it’s a nice relaxing place to be. Suspension isn’t as good, but it won’t rot out, and saves crazy $ for weekend cars.

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
1 day ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Well, I learned something today! Yay!

We, a family of three at the time, rented a 2nd gen Prius and it wasn’t awful. And depending on who was driving, it was annoying or interesting to see how much you could eek out of every drop of gasoline. Guess which one and their gender. 🙂

Don’t worry. We’re still friends.

M SV
M SV
2 days ago

Love to watch robot cantinas engineering explorations. Talented guy. Apparently he has a small fleet of the insights and Saturns for his tests. For the longest time I thought he was in Michigan but actually is in Kansas.

Kevin Rhodes
Kevin Rhodes
2 days ago

This seems like a LOT of work to go slower on more expensive fuel. But I guess a dude needs a hobby. <shrug>

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 days ago

A lawn mower engine would be great for a range extender for an EV

Fasterlivingmagazine
Fasterlivingmagazine
2 days ago

Seeing that these are also used in generators it would be awesome to build a EREV hybrid with this setup. Probably heavy but still an interesting experiment for efficiency.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
2 days ago

I’m not a fan of seeing that diesel particulate smoke coming out of the exhaust.

Staffma
Staffma
2 days ago

I have been watching his videos with great interest. Looking for a small diesel to repower my 1971 triumph spitfire. Would need about 50hp to match stock engine. Mother earth news used a DT1105T – about 32 HP on their 100mpg locost build. Might be enough, the engines just tend to be pretty expensive.

Mthew_M
Mthew_M
2 days ago
Reply to  Staffma

Sounds like you might be looking for a Kubota V2203.

Staffma
Staffma
1 day ago
Reply to  Mthew_M

Right you are, I discounted the V2203 for some reason, but looking at the dimensions it is a lot more compact than i thought and it just might work!

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 days ago

“Jimbo tried to fit a Volkswagen 1.6-liter diesel into the Insight shell, but found that the engine was so big that it was a tight fit”

A few years ago someone was selling a 1.9L vW TDI swapped 1st gen 5MT Insight on my local CL. They also claimed 70 non hybrid mpg.

Scott
Scott
2 days ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

I saw a very nicely-done Miata with a VW TDI engine in it at the Long Beach JCCS (JDM) car show last year. There was quite a crowd around that car, and the young guy who did it seemed justifiably proud.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 days ago
Reply to  Scott

Did he mention its MPG?

Scott
Scott
2 days ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

I don’t think so, but I only hung around the milling throng for a short while. It had a manual too (of course) IIRC.

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
2 days ago

I saw this posted on the Honda Insight facebook group and people were mad lol I know these swaps does not make sense but like Mercedes said, is all fun.

I feel bad that I had barely drove mine in the past few months, but doing kids pickup after work most of these days, I cant fit them in there unless I put two in the trunk. They will be on summer break soon, time to use the little red “corvette”.

Banana Stand Money
Banana Stand Money
2 days ago

Love Robot Cantina. His legacy projects are definitely worth digging through.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
2 days ago

One of my favorite YouTube channels. So glad to see it here!

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
2 days ago

I call bullshit; it’s an interesting swap but a stock insight driven properly should be able to beat those numbers easily. I’m sure he drove them differently in order to rig the results of this test so that people click on it.

My personal record on a 50 mile trip is 86mpg, and that is with freeway speeds. Typically I get 60mpg and that’s with me going 80mph. If I only get up to 60-65, 75mpg is easily within reach.

Chunk Applegrabber
Chunk Applegrabber
2 days ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Calling bullshit on “a super weird way to get 70 mpg out of an Insight” done just for fun is a bold move, Cotton.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
2 days ago

It’s worse. It gets worse MPG, and can’t go actual highway speeds. Yes, it’s weird, but his ‘result’ was on purpose, to get clicks.

Chunk Applegrabber
Chunk Applegrabber
1 day ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Doubling down on a bold move is doubly bold, Cotton.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
12 hours ago

I’ll triple down. Skewed results for click bait result.

MrAcoustics
MrAcoustics
2 days ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

I would say his stock insight is not running too well which skewed the results. On a 55mph highway similar to his test my 2000 5 spd would routinely get 75mpg at that speed, and I had a weak hybrid battery and cheapo tires with unknown rolling resistance.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 days ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Is this peak instantaneous fuel economy measured by the car’s on board readout, or measuring the amount of fuel in the tank at the start and end of the trip, compared to miles driven?

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ADDvanced
ADDvanced
2 days ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Trip

Ben
Ben
2 days ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Apparently the “stock” Insight had a bad battery, so it was a largely meaningless comparison. I know in the Prius you take a massive fuel economy hit when the battery is not working properly because the whole system is designed around being able to recover energy braking to help with acceleration, and if you can’t store the braking energy it can’t help you later. At that point it’s just a heavy, underpowered hatchback.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
2 days ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

I was gonna say, I swear people were getting 80mpg with these things back in they day doing hypermiling. This is like the episode of junkyard wars where they got 100mpg using the drivetrain from a moped, the moped they got it from could probably get 120mpg.

John Bostwick
John Bostwick
1 day ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

He does not do this for MPG. Does he test for MPG, yep, but its not something he is trying to improve and he even says that in his videos.

His videos are not just for clicks, he does this as a hobby as it lets him tinker with things he likes which is electronics, 3d printing and small lawnmower engines. Does he care if you click on his video, not one bit.

Beachbumberry
Beachbumberry
2 days ago

This dudes videos are great.

On an unrelated, if there is only 1 comment, the header says “one comment,” otherwise it gives the number.

Bill C
Bill C
2 days ago

I’ve watched this guy before. I like the rear-engined Renault with the Harbor Freight motor better.

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