The rooftop tent seems to be one of the most enduring trends in the off-road world. It seems no overland build is truly complete until it’s capped off, literally, with a tent that costs more than a cheap used car does. But what happens if you want to live the rooftop tent life but don’t have a brawny SUV? Thule thinks it has a solution with the Thule Outset, a rooftop tent that attaches to your car’s trailer hitch instead. But this tent has a huge catch or a few, and I’m scratching my head.
I get why the whole rooftop tent trend exists. A rooftop tent (RTT) has some advantages over a standard ground tent. Rooftop tents are often easier and faster to set up and tear down than most ground tents. They also sit high off the ground, keeping your sleeping space free from flooding, ice, and smaller critters. Plus, since a rooftop tent is stored on your vehicle’s roof, it doesn’t subtract from your vehicle’s interior space. There’s no tiny tent bag to fight, either!
Of course, adding a rooftop tent to your off-road build also makes your truck, car, or SUV look like it means business. If you ask some of the influencers out there why you should buy a rooftop tent, “cool factor” sometimes comes up as a big reason.
But what if you don’t have a vehicle with a roof rack and still want to rock a roof tent? Or, what if you think rolling around with a heavy rooftop tent on your roof isn’t how you’d like to roll? Outdoor accessory maker Thule thinks it has the solution. The Thule Outset is a rooftop tent that still sits off the ground, but doesn’t actually go on your vehicle’s roof.
Why Thule Is Making This Tent
While rooftop tents have advantages over ground tents, they have potential downsides. One of the primary downsides of a rooftop tent is that it’s a huge and heavy brick on the roof of your vehicle. Take the ARB Altitude for example. ARB is one of the most famous names in the off-roading game right now, and the Altitude is a popular option. This rooftop tent has a fiberglass shell and walls made out of durable canvas. Its weight? 233.3 pounds.
Roofnest is another popular brand, and its Condor Overland 2 Air is pretty much a camper that you strap to your vehicle’s roof. Its shell is made out of aluminum, and it has an electrical system inside. That one weighs 180 pounds.
There are lightweight options out there, but even light rooftop tents still weigh around 100 pounds. This is a potential downside for a multitude of reasons, from the negative impact on your vehicle’s driving dynamics to the fact that installation and removal of the tent from your vehicle’s roof can be a difficult job requiring more than one person. Consider that the roofs of these vehicles are already seven feet off the ground, if not higher, after huge tires and suspension mods.
Now, I’ve seen people buy hoists or build Rube Goldberg-style machines to facilitate the installation or removal of rooftop tents, so solutions for the problems noted above do exist. Also, it’s not like you’re taking your overland build to the Tail of the Dragon, so a lot of folks don’t care if putting 200 pounds over their vehicle’s roof makes it handle worse. Rooftop tents are often bad for fuel economy, too, as they add aerodynamic drag. But to be fair to the tent, all of your other mods also likely hurt fuel economy, so it’s not like adding the tent is going to be the worst thing.
If you have a rooftop tent and love it, I don’t want to yuck your yum here. As I said, these are only potential downsides, because everyone’s needs, wants, and desires are different! Some of my favorite custom camper builds have rooftop tents on them.
The Outset
Of course, none of the above matters if you either are not interested in putting a tent on your roof or you own one of the many vehicle models out there that cannot carry a tent. Thule says it created the Outset for those people:
With its position at the back of your car, Thule Outset is a great option if you don’t want to carry anything on the roof of your vehicle or if you want to leave the roof free for other gear. Not only that, but the aerodynamic rear location of the tent means little to no impact on fuel economy or battery range.
Thule continues that one of its grand ideas for this tent was to turn any vehicle with a trailer hitch into “a luxury adventure vehicle.”
So what is this thing? Well, it’s basically just a rooftop tent, but not on the roof. The Outset launched in Europe last year, and now it’s made its way over to America.
The tent has a metal frame and uses 600D polyester for its canopy fabric. When the tent is open, you get 88 inches by 52 inches of sleeping space, which Thule says is good for three people. Those people have up to 44 inches of headroom at the peak of the tent. Inside, the primary feature is a very thin 2.7-inch mattress. That’s it. This tent doesn’t offer any electrical systems or any of the snazzy equipment offered by other manufacturers.
Really, the highlight feature is that this 154-pound tent attaches to your vehicle’s trailer hitch. When it comes time to deploy the tent, a set of legs extend to keep the tent a little bit over the ground. In theory, this gives you most of the benefits of a rooftop tent, with fewer of the downsides. You’re still at least a little bit off of the ground and you still get the ease of setup and tear down that you get in a rooftop tent. But now, the weight isn’t on your roof and isn’t disrupting your vehicle’s aero as much.
The Catch
All of this is great in concept, but Thule loses me almost immediately because this thing costs a whopping $4,699.95.
Now, I want to clarify that Thule has not exactly reinvented the tent here. There is a type of ground tent called a “tent cot,” and as you’re imagining, these are oversized cots with tents attached to them. These tents are just like the Outset and sit slightly above the ground using legs. While Thule pitches the Outset as a sort of rooftop tent that doesn’t need a roof, it’s probably closer to being a tent cot that attaches to the bumper of your vehicle. You can get a cheaper tent cot for a couple of hundred bucks and a nice one for around $500 or so. Is Thule’s hitch attachment system and quick setup worth an extra $4,000?
I’m also struggling to find a market for this. I’m sure some Jeep Wrangler and Ford Bronco owners would love this because it now means that they can have a rooftop tent thing and drive around topless. I could also see some crossover owners and side-by-side owners loving these, too. However, putting this on their trailer hitch means that they will no longer be able to tow a motorcycle or a personal watercraft. It will also impact the departure angle for off-road vehicles.
Likewise, this can only be attached to vehicles that have a European-style towbar or a trailer hitch. If your vehicle doesn’t have one available, as is the case with many smaller vehicles in the U.S. market, you cannot install an Outset. At that point, I’d rather just get a tent cot and deal with losing some interior cargo space. Or, I could take my existing Coleman instant tent and put it on a platform.
The other problem that I see is that the Thule Outset doesn’t look sexy or “tactical,” so it might not even attract the people who buy rooftop tents based on the aforementioned cool factor. I think this could make much more sense at maybe 25 percent of the cost. You can buy entire used camper trailers for the cost of one Outset. There are good quality rooftop tents that cost less than an Outset.
The Thule Outset is available right now and can be purchased directly on Thule’s website.
Maybe I’m being too hard on the Outset, and I’m about to see these all over dispersed campsites. The great thing about camping is that there are millions of ways to do it, and what doesn’t work for one person might work for someone else. I could see some folks really digging the Outset. I just wish it didn’t have such a hefty price.
Top graphic image: Thule
During the late 20th Century I camped a lot, usually in backpacking tents. I never saw the problem with that. Now that I’m (much) older, I’m through with sleeping on the ground, but a cot/tent combo sounds nice. I enjoy pitching tents, but I respect the sufferings of other, less skilled persons who’ve suffered through the winter of their discount tents.
Back in the day, I’d go to REI and check out the new tents to stir visions of vast vistas, lingering campfires and cozy canoodling. Which tent gave the best room for various, er, positions, while remaining under my personal six-pound limit? Good times! Most campers under 50 or so didn’t know that spirit. I suspect that many of them regard camping as a solitary refuge and/or a survival strategy for the End Times. To them, a nylon tent on the ground isn’t a home away from home, it’s the home of a homeless person. Seen this way, a roof tent is a perfect status signifier. It shows that you have a truck, and lifts you up above the common rabble. This desire has already sold them that truck, right?
I have heard camping being described as “gentrified homelessness” recently.
“Location, location, location.”
I am over fifty and I still camp a lot in a tent that I can stand up in and sleep on a cot. My tent is big enough for a camp chair and camp table. It is like a little apartment and it all goes up in 5 minutes.
I used to camp back in the late 70s. I had a couple of sleeping bags and a tent that I bought from REI all for under $100, on sale. They were small and didn’t take up a lot of space in the cars I had back then.
No, it would not have been doable in sub-freezing temperatures, but I wasn’t camping when it was that cold.
I don’t think I ever slept that well on the ground, but I guess I saved some $.
The one thing that can make roof-top tents nice is not needing to un-bed the tent; pull it down or pop it up with your bedding still there.
But yeah a nice Australian-style canvas swag tent will run you 500-1000 if you got the storage to carry it and I’d got hat route.
At that price, I’ll stick with my conventional ‘dirt top’ tent… which is less than 1/10th of the cost.
And if I want a tent on the roof of my vehicle really REALLY BAD on the roof of my car, for a fraction of the cost, I think it would make more sense to get a rooftop carrier, mount a piece of plywood to it and then attach a regular tent to that.
OR… if I have $4700 burning a hole in my pocket, then I’m buying a small tent-trailer and get way more space and functionality than this stupid rooftop tent.
Make it 2 dirt top tents, one for the 4 year old so we can have some space from that silly, writhing creature and actually sleep…
The roof of a vehicle simply isn’t a good place to put a tent in rough weather. Wind speed increases greatly with the first few feet of elevation from the ground. As backpackers, we used low-slung tents made of light materials, but shaped and designed to shed the wind. These roof tents look sturdy but they’re also tall and boxy, with flat surfaces to catch the wind and flap all night. And what do they say about lightning finding the tallest point? You’re safe in the vehicle, surrounded by the steel body, but not when you’re sitting up on the roof!
I suspect this sells mostly to people new at camping, and somewhat frightened of nature.
I spent labor day weekend in a cot tent. as I have for the last few years. It was fine I also but a pop up awning over it just in case.
I have a gazelle tent that goes up faster than all fabric RTTs I have done a comparison set up with a friend. I do not sleep on the ground I have a cot. My gazelle and my cot was all under $400.
I keep telling people that a RTT is not the entry price for overlanding.
Today I would buy a gazelle t3x and an nice cot and a cot topper pad/mattress and That is so much more comfortable for 1/10 the price. and there is not 250 pounds hanging off my hitch catching on stuff as I go down the trail.
And preventing you from opening the tailgate for food, clothes, etc? Nobody goes a day without doing that.
“You know what people love about rooftop tents?”
“The convenience? Being up off the ground?”
“Knowing they spent more than the folks who have separate tents. We’re going to make something that blocks the liftgate and costs even more than a RTT and we assume people will love it.”
“Genius.”
–conversation that probably happened at Thule
Can you write about motorcycle camping stuff. I do it myself a few times a year and I enjoy it but every US motocamper seems to be bought and paid for by some guy in NC with a “dedicated motorcycle camping store” Id like to hear your OWN opinion on gear for motorcycle camping.
It’s been a long time since I did that, but I had a smallish two-person tent and a sleeping bag that was all able to be secured with a single bungie cord on the back of my Suzuki 550.
This year I only camped at an The BMW MoA rally. In the past I found some good campgrounds In PA and one time camped off the bike at a drive in movie theatre.
What are your specific questions about motocamping?
I’ve solo camped off of motorcycles (1983 BMW R65 and 2008 Suzuki V-Strom DL650) in my small tent for months at a time, in hot to freezing weather. Mostly in national parks, though some BLM and other completely wild places. I did live off my bike, carrying everything with me, with only needing a water source (I treated it to avoid ‘bugs’), mostly for 3-6 days at a time. I roughed it more than I’d do today.
My first motocamp trek in 2008 was 13,600 miles and 5 months long, from South Texas through Rocky Mountains to Alberta, west within Canada along the border to Vancouver Island, BC, and down along the west coast and Cascade Range to Yosemite (on the BMW).
Second trek in 2009 on the Suzuki from northern California through BC and Yukon, Canada, to Alaska’s Prudhoe Bay/Deadhorse to see the Arctic Ocean then to Homer and Seward. For reasons not related to motocamping or any bike or health issue, I parked my bike in Alaska and flew south after only about 2 months, returning later for a job.
Before my first trek, I had only been riding for 8 months. I bought a Harley Davidson’s Rider’s Edge course cheap on a whim, and enjoyed being on the bike.
Researching prior to my 2008 trek became a part-time job. I joined the Airhead Beemer’s Club (BMW) to learn what a solo rider needed to have on my bike. My local car mechanic rode and repaired motorcycles. He’s the one who convinced me to buy the 1983 BMW he had taken in trade, and taught me how to do minor maintenance. (It had 2,780 original miles in 2008.) Between them, I learned which limited parts to take with me that were unique to the bike that’d be challenging to source on the road.
I talked to a large motorcycle gear shop about side and tank bags, and synthetic jacket and pants; rain happens, and I drove through many hours of rain… Checked out tents, sleeping bags, etc. at REI for camping gear. I had only car camped with a cheap tent and sleeping bag twice before for a total of maybe 7 nights.
I made several check lists during my research covering everything as motocamping was new to me. None of my friends rode a bike or liked to camp, so I had to learn which questions to ask, and answer all of them on my own. I loved the process. I also made a trial overnight run to a state park about 250 miles away with all my gear on my bike before that first long trek, to see if I was missing anything.
Many of my best weeks were solo hiking and camping on these treks, setting my own schedule, staying or moving on as I wished. I sold the BMW to get the used Suzuki; I still ride the Suzuki though only for day trips. But I do plan another cross country ride in 2027.
So, if I can help answer any questions, let me know. I enjoy helping others find their riding and camping bliss. Or at least learn which questions to ask themselves before heading out.
I have driven a landrover discovery in the early aughts. Those things hold road like Sheppard’s pie. Never have I ever thought it needed another few tens of kg on the roof.
Now, since most of the people drive these things on the road anyway, ground clearance is not really an issue. Would a tent on the underside of the car make more sense? Like a belly tanker on an old bomber?
The dynamics of the vehicle would be better. Aerodynamics would probably improve over a rooftop tent. And you would negate the trouble of getting it up there.
I am calling it the bellytent! You have read about it here first!
With that contraption lifted Bro-Trucks start to make sense. The belly tank reference makes marketing a slam dunk.
I’m sure you have filed for patent already?
Straight from the Down Under! You could have a whole product line with Bellyracks, Bellyboxies and BellyCargoTrays!
154 pound on the hitch means you will need at least a 2k tow rating to use this thing. also it would severely limit how much weight you can put in the cargo area and ALSO you can’t open your tailgate without taking that monster off the hitch so you will have to reach from the passenger compartment to get gear. Also you will have to lift and drag 154 pounds away from the vehicle to wherever your going to sleep.
Also most modern crossovers are going to ride like absolute crap with that much weight on a hitch it would absolutely suck to drive anywhere far.
Mercedes,
You are not being too hard on this product….they are going to sell several of these!
I’m sure it works in part of Europe, but I can’t picture why you would want there here in the US.
won’t the popo be enticed to perform a traffic stop because it blocks the rear registration plate?
it has its own lights and space for a duplex plate, similar to the bike racks we use in Europe.
I guess the Outset sounded better than The Bear Buffet Table to the boys in Marketing.
And these things are no protection against juvenile hungry bears looking to climb things. I have pictures of scratches and minor dents to the paint.
The rendering strongly suggests that the tent will be perfectly positioned to get burnt to a crisp by the exposed exhaust outlets found in most compact SUVs these days.
One time on a road trip, I had some bikes on a trunk-mounted bike rack. One of the wheels of one of the bikes was about a foot away from the exhaust. By the end of the trip, the portion of bike tire that was near the exhaust had partially melted.
So yeah… I can totally see this stupid, overpriced hitch-tent getting a melted/burnt spot.
I did the same thing to a road bike hanging off the back of my old Miata 20 something years ago.
One advantage of RTT tents not mentioned is that they provide a flat, solid floor (at least most models). That really is a nice thing to have while camping and, even if you might spend some time leveling your vehicle, that’s time that you don’t spend finding a level tent spot that is level, root-free, and won’t get drained into if there’s rain.
While this does get you off of the ground, it doesn’t appear to actually have a solid floor (just a tight canvas). Is that the case?
I don’t camp but I would think a canvas floor would be more comfortable than a solid metal/wood floor without a mattress. Coming from the smart guy who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
My cot keeps be off the roots in my tent and it is a lot easier to level than a truck.
I always think of these as a $4,500 influencer/cosplay tax for people who have never used a good tent. You can get a great tent for $500, or for $1000 you can get a tent that would survive an Everest expedition. All those other ‘advantages’ of rooftops are silly, since a good tent is very compact when stuffed, quick to set up, bears and rodents can easily get on top of a truck, and you shouldn’t camp in a flood plain. I could not be friends with anyone who owned one of these.
Absolutely this. My $100 REI tent has lasted me a long time and I rarely ever think I need anything more (or wish I had that space in my car for something else).
I really wonder how many people who say a tent is bad have just only ever used cheap terrible hardware store tents? I’ve probably spent close to a solid year in a tent over the decades, and the only time it’s really gotten old is when I’ve been rained in for 3-4 days solid. I doubt that would be any better in a rooftop.
Agreed family of 7 only vacation we could afford we had a blast but I am sure my parents didn’t.
Yup. Or if you really want to spend money, there’s the other hack thats way better, depending on where you’re wheeling. Last time I went to Moab, instead of camping I got a room at the Hoodoo, a really nice boutique hotel for $150 a night. Really nice going back to that kind of comfort (and a decent shower) after a day on the trail.
My idea of camping is when the hotel room window faces the woods, so I am there with you.
I don’t agree friends rich enough to spend $5k on this are good to have when you need bail money.
I use both. My Gazelle ground tent takes a minute to go from bag to popped up, but that’s after I’ve already spent a few minutes putting down a ground tarp, cleared the area of larger rocks and pinecones, and then I need to spend more minutes unpacking my sleeping bag and blowing up my mattress. If I’m base camping, its the setup I’ll use because I like being able to stand up.
If I’m moving every day I put the RTT on my Bronco and can be in my tent sleeping in about three minutes. My Inspired Overland tent cost ~$1000 and weighs 76 lbs and I can put it on or take it off my roof in about 30 minutes by myself. I recognize the downsides, including having to climb down to pee in the middle of the night, but I put up with them because I like the speed and comfort.
Thanks for sharing this point of view. That makes some sense.
I love my gazelle as I can stand up in it. I still take my cot tent sometime also.
$4700?? C’mon! Thule and Yakima both charge twice the value of the stuff they build.
Why not just spend $1300 more and buy the cheapest popup camper that Mercedes wrote about 4 months ago?
https://www.theautopian.com/the-cheapest-new-pop-up-camper-in-america-costs-less-than-a-used-car/
Okay, I guess you can’t go hardcore overlanding with that trailer, but still!
Or get one of those trailer hitch mounted cargo carriers and build something like this, if you’re handy.
Go to a salvage yard. Buy a truck bed with the frame and axle, hook it up to a trailer hitch and put a camper top on it great solid camper with many other uses for about $1,000.
One thing that poser “Overlanders” won’t tell you is that RTTs kinda suck.
Sure, they’re nifty and free up interior space for storage and they’re easer to set up than a ground tent, but they’re dependent on finding a perfectly level surface. Sometimes getting your car set up “just right” in a dispersed camping environment means up to hours of messing around with jacks and shims and rocks. It also means that once your camp is all set up, your car is stuck where it is until you pack everything up. Finally, for smaller off-roaders, that roof space is just too valuable. Hauling my family and dog around with our BH Outback for dispersed camping means soring gear everywhere available: roof baskets, hitch carriers, the part of the cargo bay not occupied by our pit bull. I’d have to rethink my entire storage system for this and cut my loadout down to nothing.
Don’t forget hoisting your dog up there every night, too.
And falling off the ladder every time you get out to pee.
Just pee off the side.
That is far less effective as an old person. Some friends use screw cap urinals in their RTTs.
No problem park with the head of the bed on the higher ground and you get an adjustable bed good for detering snoring and 1 less pillow needed. The more you know?
But it is entertaining for the rest of us to watch someone spend an hour trying to level a vehicle in a not so level area, then pack everything up in the morning to go do something, and return to the same spot and repeat the entire process at the end of the day…
Thule is one of the most confusing companies ever. It is like they look at what Yakima does and try to do it differently. Not better, just differently.
This thing makes no sense, what do you do if you want to use your car while camping? Do you detach it or fold it back up? It weighs 150 pounds I know from driving a full sized truck with a bike rack that hanging that much weight behind a vehicle has impacts. Maybe they want more people to have the 911 experience, start with the Porsche 911 experience then move onto the ambulance 911 experience when you end up in an accident.
Why make a tent that needs a hitch to take it somewhere? Just sell a platform and people can put their tent on it then set up the tent and drive away if they want to explore.
And what about all this Thule Society business of going around the world measuring skulls and looking for artifacts with the Ahnenerbe?
Only with the subscription
Man, I don’t understand rooftop tents at all. It’s like:
if only I had some sort of weatherproof shelter I could sleep in overnight… maybe I could put it on the roof of my weatherproof vehicle cabin and then have to climb up onto it, where slight winds make the whole roof move quite a bit as the roof is far from the vehicles suspension. However, I’d like way less insulation! Oh and if they’d be super expensive, that’d be great too! /s
Orrrrrrr just sleep IN your vehicle. No drag penalty. Literally a cage of steel and glass to protect you. Better insulation. No climbing up on top of things to get to it. Not expensive…
I can’t sleep in a vehicle. On less than 3 hours I generate enough heat to steam up the windows when it is 20 degrees outside.
You need ventilation. Roof fan or fan on roll up windows w an intake somewhere else. Sealed vehicles won’t work; people create too much condensation in a night of sleeping.
Damn frameless windows in my BH Outback mean I can’t put those bug screen socks on the windows for ventilation, so I had to get a tent that attaches to the rear liftgate.
Yes you can. Just make something out of pink foam, put a channel on the bottom edge so you can roll it up to lock it in. Mount fans on that. Small 12v computer fans will move enough air to avoid condensation.
If I’m out there solo, that’s what I do.
Or get a pickup with a camper shell. I did that for years before I had my kids.
I slept in the back of my pick up trucks back in the 1900s but truck beds are all to short now unless you can actually find one with a 6-8 ft box. They exist but are rare.
Very true.
Heck, even modern trucks are just too damn big for reasonable trail use, but their beds are all shorty beds.
I was online pricing a nissan frontier as they make a 6 ft box version but there are just none on lots to actually buy.
I think that you can get a current Taco with a long bed, but they’re just so expensive and an absolute eyesore.
Yes in theory but how many are actually on dealer lots. and yes expensive.
I do not and will not have a rtt unless I get a free one but I do not fit in the back of my jeep. I am too tall.
Yeah, the only way that I could justify having an RTT is: 1. if I suddenly get a bunch of money to spend and 2. if I put the thing on a lightweight expedition trailer.
I know several people with them on trailers and even off road campers as an extra room.
This seems like a great idea… until I heard 4+k. Wait, what? I can maybe see a quarter of that with the frame and what not, but…
It appears to replicate all the lights on the back of the vehicle since it would be blocking them from view.
I built a 4 place bike carrier off a hitch mount luggage rack. I added trailer lamps to it due to obscured vision.
That’s… more than I paid for the whole of my 4Runner.
And the Yakima rocketbox I put atop it (a type of cargo carrier that can accommodate long things, like skis or snowboards or fishing gear or tents).
And the Gazelle TX4, bedding, frame, and pillow I stuffed in the cargo carrier.
Combined.
I go off-road – a lot (yay Utah!) – and the RTT’s continually baffle me. People who buy them seem to feel like they need to love them, even as they spend thousands on something where it may not be level, you may do a six-foot faceplant if you’re drunk, you have to climb a ladder to pee, you compromise the handling of the car, you have to hoist everything you want to take up to the tent up said ladder, and… I could go on.
Or, for, like, $300, I can put 100 square foot of dwelling on level ground, have it ready to go within 5 minutes, and then I can take my truck places I want to go without having to deal with tearing it all down.
I like Thule stuff, but I just can’t see anyone contemplating this over an RTT if they’ve got a 4×4, and for passenger cars, there aren’t that many that have hitches, and of those, I just don’t see this gaining much traction.
Don’t forget in slight winds, the base of the vehicle floor will barely move, but if you put your tent up top, small movement is amplified. I think RTT are stupid AF
I’m convinced rooftop tents are a shorthand for telling everyone that you do overlanding when you’re out on the town.
So it’s definitely the best tent option between the weekends.
I was camping at Airport or Gooseberry on the white rim road canyonlands and I had my gazelle t4, cot, table, and chair set up before the other guy got his RTT set up as it was an all fabric fold over style.
Everytime I see a roof tent I imagine myself getting out at 4am to pee and breaking my neck as I would have no idea where I was
Knowing me, I’ll be plastered trying to pee and end up breaking myself falling off the ladder.
Yep I wake up am I at home ? the cabin ? the RV ? some Airbnb ? and usually beer has been consumed
Okay that gives me an idea. Instead of a ladder how about a sliding board. Climb up to get in slide to get down. But hey no one ever pissed off of a boat. Stand up and just let it stream while getting a breeze
So a mashup of a cot and a tent. I guess this passes for cotent around here. 😉
I hope you stretched before pulling that out