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Vaughn Gittin Jr. Accuses Car And Driver Of Using AI After A Negative Review Of His 800 HP Mustang That’s Slower Than A Mustang GT

2024 Mustang Rtr Spec Cd Review Copy

This week, Car And Driver published a road test of the supercharged Spec 3 Mustang built by professional drifter and two-time Formula D champion Vaughn Gittin Jr.’s RTR tuning firm, and the results weren’t spectacular. Despite having an 810-horsepower supercharged five-liter V8 under the hood, it was slower in acceleration tests to the sorts of speeds people are likely to see on the street, gave up a bit of grip on the skidpad, and required an extra ten feet to stop from 70 MPH compared to a regular Mustang GT with the Performance Package.

Add in an as-tested price knocking on the door of $110,000, and you can see why the magazine came up with the verdict “Looks like a champion but won’t finish first.”

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Normally, this wouldn’t be a story. It just sounds like another day in the office at any number of automotive outlets, but then something strange happened. A commenter by the screen name “VGittinJr” responded to the road test in the comments section of the article, and a spokesperson from RTR has confirmed that Vaughn Gittin Jr. himself left this comment:

We appreciate your time with the Spec 3.  We do not build Spec 3’s to shatter instrument tests. Can we do that? Of course, easily. In fact the car is one set of tires away from completely changing the headline you have chosen. Perhaps we did not do a good job at telling you why this car exists.  Our intent for the Spec 3 and Spec 2 for that matter is a diverse fun car that can ensure owners enjoy any and every type of fun behind the wheel he or she can imagine. We have chosen the tires we chose because they are good in the rain and very progressive when it come to the limit, they also won’t require a tire change after a few donuts in my opinion they are the best all around Mustang tire. Our suspension is a compliment to this mindset, confidence inspiring and progressive (not snappy) at the limit. . This mustang is an all around enthusiast driver’s car, not a track record breaker. Our owners absolutely love them. I was just at the Tail of the Dragon with 30 of them smiling ear to ear.

Up until this point, the comment seems like just a reasonable explanation of why RTR chose those specific components and tires for its Spec 3 Mustang. However, things get weird in the second paragraph (emphasis mine):

We of course knew that we would not impress your instruments when we agreed to the test, we do know what drivers say of our vehicles and I must say I’m a bit disappointed that the writer/driver of this article did not touch on the overall driving experience and only focused on numbers. It makes me wonder if AI is doing the writing after data is output. The overall driver and owner experience is what this vehicle is about and is what anyone that has experienced our Spec line up has raved about.

Even in a veiled manner, suggesting that generative AI was used to write an article is a serious allegation, and one that would need to be backed up with substantiative proof. It’s tantamount to claiming that a company that stamps “made in America” across its advertising copy is actually just dropshipping parts from China, but not providing manifests or anything to back up such a bold allegation.

Strong claims require strong evidence, and that just hasn’t been provided here. I reached out to Hearst, the organization that owns Car And Driver, about this and received this response: “Thanks for reaching out. Elana [the writer] wrote that article entirely on her own.”

[Ed note: This sucks. Elana is real and wonderful person, as well as a great writer. Even vaguely intimating that a computer wrote for her is incredibly unfair and just plain dumb. There is no computer built that can craft a sentence as well as she can. Gittin Jr. is way out of line here and completely undermines any argument he may have otherwise had. – MH]

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Screenshot: Car And Driver

As a pattern, Car And Driver’s instrumented tests tend to follow a data-driven layout, so it’s not as if a heavy focus on test track numbers isn’t precedented. It’s worth noting that a second account by the screen name “RTRvehicles” also commented on the road test with a more corporate statement:

We respect the perspective your instruments created, but the Mustang RTR Spec 3 was never built to chase instrument test numbers.

At RTR, we’re not chasing expectations or numbers. We’re focused on building vehicles that create a connection the moment you get behind the wheel.

The kind of connection that makes you take the long way home.

That builds confidence with every corner.

That turns every drive into something you look forward to.

That’s why every element of the Mustang RTR Spec 3 is intentionally chosen, from the engineering of our suspension to the tire setup, designed to inspire confidence for drivers of all experience levels and support a variety of fun behind the wheel. Whether you’re carving back roads, heading to your first track day, drifting, donuts, or simply enjoying the drive, the experience is built to put a smile on your face.

When you drive an RTR, it becomes more than just transportation.

It’s the community.

It’s the shared passion.

It’s the friends you didn’t even know you’d have.

That’s what the Mustang RTR Spec 3 was built to deliver. A connected driving experience for drivers who want more than just numbers.

Available to All. Not for Everyone.

Regardless, it goes without saying that providing Car And Driver with a car for instrumented testing and clapping back at the results seems like waving a “cake me” sign at a Steve Aoki show and being upset that you got hit in the face with a sheet cake. The loan was already agreed upon, and when a company loans a car out for evaluation, it opens the product up to fair criticism.

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Screenshot: Car And Driver

In the case of this RTR Spec 3 review, criticism largely centers around the sort of performance figures this modified Mustang generates for the money. As Car And Driver wrote:

At 4.7 seconds to 60 mph, the RTR is not as quick as a stock manual GT, which can manage the same task in 4.2 seconds. It’s slower in the quarter-mile too, smoking its tires with all but the lightest touch, which results in a 12.7-second run at 121 mph to the stock manual GT’s 12.5-second pass at 114 mph. Things aren’t any better when the RTR’s mass changes direction or comes to a halt. Our test car required 163 feet to stop from 70 mph, sliding well past the GT’s 153 feet. It can’t grip the skidpad as tightly either, pulling just 0.92 g of stick to the GT’s 0.99 g. In the numbers game, our heavily optioned Spec 3 example hardly seems worth its hefty $109,808 as-tested price, especially when it’s being outrun by a stocker that costs significantly less.

Beyond that, the articles notes “if you do too many burnouts, that stock clutch will perfume the parking lot with the expensive scent of failure,” which also seems like a fair criticism considering entering the burnout box is pretty standard for anyone taking a rear-wheel-drive car to the drag strip. Objectively, nothing here falls below editorial standards for any outlet in North America. Want an example?

2024 Mustang Rtr Spec 3 2 Copy
Photo credit: RTR

Earlier this year, I lived with the updated Lexus RZ 550e for a week. It’s definitely an improved effort over the old RZ, but the hot trim level feels like questionable value once you factor in the shortened range, strong price, and beta-version-feeling simulated shift mode it gets over a base model. Despite this, Akio Toyoda did not drop into the comments to accuse me of using ChatGPT.

2024 Mustang Rtr Spec 3 3 Copy
Photo credit: RTR

Outside of a handful of outliers, there’s a general understanding that fair evaluation stands, and it really ought to because a car is usually the second-most-expensive thing people buy in their lifetimes. Sometimes cars have irksome traits that don’t appear during a quick around-the-block test drive at a dealership, and everyone worth their salt in this industry will let you know about them.

Worst-case, the outlet sometimes doesn’t get another car, but that’s about as far as things usually go. Beyond that, I have a strong suspicion that Car And Driver’s road test probably won’t damp the enthusiasm of anyone looking to pick up an RTR Spec 3. It still looks sweet, shaving 1.1 seconds off the top-gear 50-to-70 mph acceleration test means you’ll notice the supercharger from a roll, and while the Nitto NT555 G2 tires offer middling grip, they last a long time if you want to slide around.

While this may seem like a somewhat petty thing to report on, the president of a company hopping in the comments section of a fair review and seemingly accusing a well-respected automotive journalist of using AI without any proof is very weird, and as we are journalists ourselves, not something we’re going to ignore. Needless to say, I’ll keep you updated if this situation develops further.

Top graphic image: RTR

 

 

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OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
16 minutes ago

Scratching my head over the value the RTR Spec 3 offers.

…the Mustang RTR Spec 3 was never built to chase instrument test numbers…

and

We have chosen the tires we chose because they are good in the rain and very progressive when it come to the limit, they also won’t require a tire change after a few donuts in my opinion they are the best all around Mustang tire. Our suspension is a compliment to this mindset, confidence inspiring and progressive (not snappy) at the limit.

So, RTR created a stock Mustang with a high-powered engine mod? Help me understand this.

Greg
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Greg
30 minutes ago

What he should have done is released a video, running them side by side, showing his being better, cooler, super duper worth the cost. To make sure it isn’t accused of being AI, he even could have had a couple people who aren’t known to be fans, or have a respected reputation there to verifty.

But he did this.

Last edited 30 minutes ago by Greg
5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
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5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
40 minutes ago

Available to All (rich folks). Not for Everyone.

Fixed it.

Mike F.
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Mike F.
54 minutes ago

I wonder if Gittin just didn’t understand how serious a charge of using AI to write the article really is? He’s a car guy, not a journalist or writer. It was a harsh, if fair review, and I wouldn’t blame him for being upset over it, so perhaps he just fired back with the first sort of countercharge he could come up with, not realizing (or thinking about) how that would be taken, particularly within the journalism community. Which is one community you really don’t want to piss off.

As for the car, it’s a “whatever” for me. If RTR wants to build them and people want to buy them, more power to all of them.

M SV
M SV
1 hour ago

Are they saying they made a “track weapon” for road use or a “crowd weapon” if you will mustangs have been doing that for a while. The drifters love Nitto, my experience with them has been not great but I wasn’t trying to drift. I wouldn’t doubt that’s part of their issue. Maybe they know that they are suited for chaos and not for actual driving. Maybe they should have delivered the car to the track with a set of tires that were suited for the kind of driving they do.

Eric Davis
Eric Davis
1 hour ago

This is the evolution of hollering “fake news.”

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 hour ago
Reply to  Eric Davis

Poor special snowflake can’t handle Car and Driver’s facts not caring about his feelings. Poor guy, maybe he can call the president and ask him to get the article banned…

Last edited 1 hour ago by Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 hour ago

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you that the guy whose entire schtick is overcharging for Mustangs that are even better equipped to wrap themselves around telephone poles than the stock ones is acting like an unprofessional dick online….

BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
1 hour ago

lol what AI is being used to scan my comment that is “awaiting for approval”?

Matt Hardigree
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Matt Hardigree
1 hour ago

It’s A person named Mercedes, or I do it.

5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
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5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
41 minutes ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

COTD (if Matt is eligible haha)

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
27 minutes ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

I was going to say it’s whatever Torch can get to run on an Apple IIc, a Commodore 64 and an IBM PCjr wired in series.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
19 minutes ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

Don’t forget the cyber meats

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
18 minutes ago

Beat me to it! Torch encoding the comments on salami takes time, you know.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
9 minutes ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

I think by this time he’s standardized on one form of processed meat for both data storage and bumper guards.

BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
1 hour ago

Perfect example for why I don’t read car and driver or road and track or whatever other, “lets see skid pad g meter results and 0-60 times and lap times” to determine whether a car is good or not. its the same BS with all the paddle shifters “because its faster”. Y’all missed the point. We aren’t out here to be Lewis Hamilton. We are out here to have fun. To enjoy our time behind the wheel (or handlebars). This is just yet another race to the bottom.

This is why EVO is the best car magazine of all time.

This is why THIS site is the best autosite out there.

Its about the passion. Its about the experience. Its about learning something about yourself and the machine and the people you experience that with. Not just how good it did on a skid pad.

GET OFF MY LAWN! I am going to go ride a bike.

Eric Davis
Eric Davis
1 hour ago

Not disagreeing with you, but the point of this article is that instead of simply defending his car, the RTR owner passive aggressively attacked an accomplished veteran writer’s character. His comment was perfectly civil until that point.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Eric Davis
Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
1 hour ago

But, how does the RTR Mustang help people have ca. $50,000 worth of additional fun vs a regular Mustang GT Performance Package, which is already pretty fun?

ColoradoFX4
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ColoradoFX4
25 minutes ago

I suggest you go and read the article if you think it’s only about skid pad results and 0-60 times. The closing paragraph is a good summary of both the improvements and failings of a rather expensive modified Mustang:

The RTR Spec 3 has a definite James Dean appeal. It will turn tire at the hint of a lawless thought, and it put a jealous gleam in the eye of every other Mustang driver on the road. Rebel charm only goes so far, though. The Spec 3 starts off strong with its boosted power and suspension changes, but it doesn’t go all the way, and the result is an unbalanced—and expensive—build that looks race ready but ends up being more bark than (tire) bite.

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 hour ago

It seems to me that the main takeaway from the article is that the whole RTR package isn’t worth the money. For less money you stick with a conventional, off the showroom floor bog standard Mustang GT and wind up with greater speed, better turning, better stopping…you get the RTR package why?

For the community?

For community, I come here. That didn’t cost me six figures.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
1 hour ago
Reply to  Elhigh

Yeah, I’m having a really hard time seeing where the value is in this. Hell, if you’re just going to make a slower and more expensive Mustang, at least upgrade the interior like Zimmer did. Crystal bud vases might not be everyone’s style, but at least that sort of thing makes it obvious where the money went

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 hour ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

I have a hard time wrapping my head around dropping six figures on ANY Mustang….

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
1 hour ago

Even if the wheelbase is stretched ahead of the firewall and it has fake supercharger pipes and big fiberglass fenders and running boards glued on?

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
58 minutes ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

A Mustang is a great $45,000 sports car

…no amount of Autozone looking add ons or superchargers can make it a great $100,000 sports car. They couldn’t even be bothered to do the fucking clutch on these! It’s 800+ horsepower going through the exact same Getrag transmission that regular Mustang GTs blow up regularly.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 hour ago
Reply to  Elhigh

MH parts a curtain of the richest corinthian leather: “Now friend, if you’ll just come over here with me, I have my finest, most exclusive memberships in here…”

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
1 hour ago

Ironically, the RTR comment reeks of AI writing.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 hour ago
Reply to  Aaronaut

The RTR brand name sounds like early AI.

“Hey Google, give me a brand name that implies this vehicle is ready to race with a three-letter acronym”
“How about Ready To Race, or as an acronym: RTR”

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