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What Are Those Weird Vans Driving Around Los Angeles And Arizona?

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We all love a good bit of identify-that-car, and a recent addition to the roads has opened up another round of this game. People have been spotting weird vans being trailered on the streets of Los Angeles and Arizona, and often aren’t quite sure what they are. As an email from reader Steve goes, “It’s not often I see cars I don’t recognize, but I was on the 91 West in Corona, CA at about 11 AM on Tuesday and saw these four identical cars on a carrier.”

They certainly don’t look like anything we’re used to, what with their plunging greenhouses and flat noses, but they aren’t camouflaged, they don’t sport familiar badges, and they definitely feature U.S.-spec side markers. So what are these things? Well, I have good news and bad news. The good news is that they’re definitely identifiable. The bad news is that you won’t be able to buy one.

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See, these are Zeekrs. What’s a Zeekr? It’s a car brand owned by Chinese automaker Geely, and the marque’s first mainstream appearance in America comes through partnership with Waymo, the robotaxi company. While Waymo has been using Jaguar I-Pace EVs (and, before that, Chrysler Pacificas) for the overwhelming majority of its autonomous taxis, Jaguar isn’t making them anymore, and dedicated robotaxis rather than modified existing models always seemed like the logical end goal.

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Photo credit: Griffin Riley

While we’ve previously spotted camouflaged examples of the RT roaming around, this is our best look yet of it on the streets of America, and it looks pretty great. The idea of using electric vans for ridesharing just makes sense, and not only does the Zeekr RT look practical, it also goes above and beyond the basic brief by incorporating some novel elements into its design.

Zeekr Rt vans On Carrier 1
Photo credit: Steve

For one, it doesn’t have a normal B-pillar, and it features sliding front and rear doors. The result is a vehicle that really opens up, with minimal room required to open the doors in tight spaces yet the promise of good access to the various seats inside. Of course, the front wheels need to be pointed straight for the front sliding doors to open without hitting the tires, but the fact that this is an autonomous vehicle should be a safeguard against the car, well, crashing into itself in a way.

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Zeekr Rt On Carrier 3
Photo credit: Steve

Ah yes, autonomy. See, some of the white protective wrap seen on these vehicles in transit covers up mounting areas for sensors such as Lidar units, which is why these spied units don’t look quite like official photos. Once kitted up with all the necessary gear, the Zeekr RT should be able to operate autonomously within geofenced areas, functioning as a taxi for those who wish to have a robot take the wheel.

Zeekr Rt vans On Carrier 2
Photo credit: Steve

Currently, Waymo operates in Phoenix, San Francisco, and Los Angeles, so with this latest iteration of robotaxis arriving on U.S. soil undisguised, don’t be surprised to see these vans in service relatively soon. Weirdly, this might be the first time many Americans get to experience a Chinese EV, although it’s not exactly a driving experience with the van itself putting in all the work.

Because of increased tariff costs, it’s possible that Waymo uses another platform in the future–the company has recently announced a partnership with Toyota to cover at least Japan. However, the 100% tariff on Chinese-built EVs was already in place from the Biden Administration, likely before many of these vehicles were imported.

[Hat-tip to Steve!]

Top graphic credit: Griffin Riley

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A Reader
A Reader
1 hour ago

Love this!
I want one I can drive!

JDE
JDE
1 hour ago

Seems like the CANOO thing that recently died would have been an alternative for it’s home state of California.

Clark B
Clark B
2 hours ago

If you’re gonna build a robotaxi, might as well make it as practical as you can. This thing is basically a box on wheels and those sliding doors are a neat idea. Meanwhile the purpose-built Cybercab has *checks notes* seating for…two.

Bags
Bags
1 hour ago
Reply to  Clark B

The *design model of a low-cost base model that was collecting dust in a warehouse so Musk rolled it out to talk about Taxis to draw attention from their huge profit drop before saying that they’ll be rolling out the first Cybercabs with human drivers which makes them *checks notes* just a taxi* has seating for two.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
3 hours ago

No B pillar? Sliding front doors?
Gee, you forgot to put in a picture with the doors open.
There, I fixed it.
Pretty neat, but I am curious about opening them after an accident.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
3 hours ago

Guess Waymo can afford to pay the tariffs on these. or they were bought before they were applied, or they cut a deal. Otherwise, it should be Zeekr and ye shall be fined.

Black Peter
Black Peter
3 hours ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

groan

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
2 hours ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

They could be Temporarly Importated under Bond (TIB), which is a temporary importation of goods under bond, not imported for sale or sale on approval, without payment of duty with the intent to export or destroy the goods within a certain period of time, not to exceed three years from the date of importation.

How long does a taxi last anyway?

Last edited 2 hours ago by Hugh Crawford
Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
38 minutes ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Good info. As to how long a taxi lasts … if the Autopian Taxi is any example, the jury is out.

IRegertNothing, Esq.
IRegertNothing, Esq.
3 hours ago

The front end makes me think of a Ghast from Minecraft. Goddamn fireball-spewing assholes!

Zeppelopod
Zeppelopod
3 hours ago

Is it right next to you or the next chunk over? What a fun surprise!

Mikkeli
Mikkeli
3 hours ago

I see Waymos in Austin all the time.

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
3 hours ago

Not to be too pedantic, but the EPA certificate for these is identifying them as the Zeekr CM1e.

“The bad news is that you won’t be able to buy one.”

Well, “you” can buy one as long as “you” is Waymo. Even the Cruise AVs were sold and registered to Cruise, which is why they would show up in registration reports. Waymo won’t be able to operate these Zeekrs on manufacturer’s plates if they’re taking fares.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
3 hours ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

But assume though you’re already preemptively getting them into the NAPA system, right?

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
2 hours ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

You would be correct, sir. 😉

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
47 minutes ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

The consumer Zeekr Mix is codenamed CM2E, so I’m assuming that CM1E is the RT’s codename; I guess the name RT doesn’t really matter when it’s gonna be called a Waymo anyways.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
3 hours ago

I think it’s kinda dumb that some of these sensors aren’t integrated into the vehicle better when it was explicitly designed as an autonomous taxi.

The Zeekr Mix (consumer variant of the RT seen here) has 1 LiDAR and 5 mmWave radars as standard, and only there’s only a small LiDAR roof bump. It’s Robosense solid-state LiDAR is likely either 128 or 192 lines in resolution, has an FoV of at least 120°, and a range of 250m. Most cars have 3 mmWave radars already (2x side-rear for BLIS, 1x forward ACC), and the extra 2 on the Mix are most likely in the front fenders to cover the LiDAR’s blind spots.

The Waymo RT seems to have a big spinny LiDAR that might have FoV advantages and maybe a higher line resolution so I get it, but I don’t get why the front and rear side mmWave radars and cameras need these huge tumorous modules when 100s of production cars can do the same far more elegantly. Maybe it’s for upgradeability, but I feel like there are better solutions to handle that. It’s not only unsightly, but it also significantly increases drag.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Needles Balloon
Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
2 hours ago

I suspect that they are still under development and being to change stuff out has a higher priority than sleekness.

They do sort of look like the loudspeakers on a ski boat.

ShifterCar
ShifterCar
2 hours ago

There is also the benefit of having taxis stand out from other vehicles. NYC accomplished this with yellow paint but Waymo is going a different route with plain white vehicles that look like they came from an unfortunate Cars / Elephant Man crossover that Pixar never should have greenlit.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
3 hours ago

When Gary Busey gets elected president in 2028, he’ll make the Chinese tariffs be in the negative percents and you’ll see these everywhere.

Ash78
Ash78
2 hours ago

At first I laughed and then I was like “Sure, why not?”

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
2 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

Yeah, fine, whatever.

M SV
M SV
4 hours ago

At least it looks better with waymos heavy sensor suite. The i-pace looked like it had some kind of condition. Zeeker fits them very clean and modern interiors

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
4 hours ago

USA!
Land of the Free!!

(No, you can’t buy those here)

IanGTCS
IanGTCS
3 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Whoever told you that is your enemy.

Ash78
Ash78
2 hours ago
Reply to  IanGTCS

Now something must be done about all these tariffs on cars and fun! Wait, it requires an app to enter? I DON’T NEED THE KEY, WE’LL BREAK IN.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Ash78
AssMatt
AssMatt
1 hour ago
Reply to  Ash78

I’m sure you got no patience now, but I think I hear some kind of Tool coming right up…

Nick Fortes
Nick Fortes
1 hour ago
Reply to  Ash78

As we move into ’32, still in an SUV without a view

Zeppelopod
Zeppelopod
2 hours ago
Reply to  IanGTCS

zeekr zailor zoldier zpy

RallyMech
RallyMech
3 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

If they’re legal for the street the only reason you can’t buy one is because zeekr won’t sell them to you.

Joshua Christian
Joshua Christian
4 hours ago

It may just be me seeing things, but I kinda feel there’s elements of Google’s original self driving car from way back in the design.

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