Good morning! It is currently 15 degrees Fahrenheit where I am (that’s about nine below for the rest of the world), so I’m trying to think warm thoughts. To that end, I decided to look for cheap convertibles for today’s Showdown, and stumbled into a really silly idea for the week, which I’ll explain later.
We finished up Friday with a couple of old ’80s-90s classics with deep red interiors. Many of you preferred the interior in the Plymouth Voyager, but its mechanical needs put you off, and the ready-to-go Ford Taurus cruised to an easy win.
I serviced a bazillion of both of these when I worked at the garage, and it’s probably a toss-up between them, mechanically. The van is a little easier to work on, but the Taurus will probably need less tinkering to keep it happy. I think I’d take the van, despite the woodgrain. Installing all the new parts that the seller is including would be satisfying, I think, and ’80s Chrysler seats are way more comfortable than they have a right to be.

Oh, and just a quick note: The headers for each car are links to the ad for that car. Always have been. They just don’t look like links. I apologize for any confusion this has caused. But yeah, just click on the header, and it will take you to the ad in a new tab.
Now then, for this week’s silly theme: In my search for cheap convertibles, I stumbled upon a car for sale in San Diego that has been listed for three weeks, and I can’t for the life of me understand why. It’s cheap, it appears to be in good mechanical condition, and it doesn’t even look that bad. But it’s a car I know a lot of you dislike. The question for this week is: How much do you dislike it? I’m going to put the same car up against a bunch of challengers this week, some serious, some ridiculous, and see how it fares.
1987 Cadillac Allante – $1,300

Engine/drivetrain: 4.1-liter OHV V8, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Hollister, CA
Odometer reading: 155,000 miles
Operational status: Runs rough, won’t pass smog, but technically drivable
Did you ever want a two-seat Cadillac convertible? How about a car that was built half in Italy and half in Detroit, with a long airplane ride in between? Do you like lots of buttons to push in your car’s interior? Then have I got the car for you: a first-year Cadillac Allante, available now for less than two and a half percent of its original purchase price.

There must be a catch, you’re thinking. There is – in fact, there are several. Chief among them is that the “High Technology” 4100 V8 engine runs like crap, and there’s a giant red light on the dash that says “ENGINE CONTROL SYSTEM FAULT.” That can’t be good. Obviously, a clean California smog certificate is a pipe dream for a car like this, though the seller seems to indicate you could limp it home, at least. And hey, it’s too old to have a Northstar, so you won’t have any head gasket issues. Except the HT4100 had those too. Never mind.

The Allante’s interior was pretty cool in its day, with a digital dash and push-button controls for everything. I think that’s why cars today don’t have buttons for any of the controls; GM cars used them all up in the 1980s and ’90s and created a shortage. At thirty-nine years old, there’s no telling how many of those buttons still work. I guess you’d have to push them all to find out.

This car appears to have been parked out in the sun for a long, long time. It’s so bleached and chalky that I bet if you rested your hand on it, you’d leave a handprint and your palm would come away reddish. It looks straight, though, and all the trim is there. The seller says the soft top won’t latch in place, and the removable hardtop is nowhere to be seen.
2005 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT Convertible – $1,000

Engine/drivetrain: Turbocharged 2.4-liter DOHC inline 4, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: San Diego, CA
Odometer reading: 221,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
By now, you have probably figured out that a faded, poor-running Cadillac is not my idea of a perfect cheap used car. This, however, is a mid-run Chrysler PT Cruiser convertible, in turbocharged GT trim. It has a salvage title, which almost certainly has something to do with its slightly mismatched body panels. But it’s also only a grand.

The GT version of the Cruiser has a bit more power under its hood than other versions, even other turbocharged examples. It features the same 215-horsepower engine as the Dodge Neon SRT4, along with bigger brakes, wheels, and tires, and a lower, tighter suspension. Either a five-speed manual or a four-speed automatic was available; this one has the automatic, unfortunately. The seller doesn’t say explicitly how well it runs, but they do say the air conditioning works well, which pretty much requires a good-running engine. And a photo of the dash with the engine idling shows no warning lights.

It has the early interior with the color-matched dash inserts, which is cool, and a big rip in the driver’s seat, which is less so. But a seat cover will take care of that. All the power stuff works, including the top, and it has a new aftermarket stereo with Bluetooth.

Whatever happened to cause the dinged title happened to the right front corner, and it looks like it was fixed with junkyard parts and a rattle-can. It doesn’t look terrible, especially for the price, but it isn’t going to win any trophies at a car show anytime soon.
You might get sick of seeing that blue PT Cruiser. You might already be sick of it. But I’m curious to see what it can beat, and what it can’t. For today, however, it’s either Chrysler’s cheapest retro-mobile or Cadillac’s faded flagship. What will it be?









That Cadillac Allantes paint is roached, and the interior nuked… but it’s pretty awesome…
I do not like either PT Cruisers or convertibles,so I refuse to call this a good deal.
If the Allante was in better shape I would vote for that,but I do not have enough experience with them to be taking on a poorly running one with a shot top.
How hard would it be to LS swap an Allante? Hypothetically?
In my heart, I want the Allante. I’ve adored these things ever since my Dad first pointed one out to me while driving and explained the truly bizarre heritage behind it. When in good shape, they are a truly stunning example of automotive design.
This…isn’t.
So, PT Cruiser it is. My family relied on a 2003 Dream Cruiser special edition model that an aunt gave us for free for years. It was a surprisingly nice place to be. I always enjoyed driving it, never had an issue on long trips, and we even managed to fit 3 6ft+ kids in the back seat for multi-hour drives without complaint. I can think of several cars that were way worse (looking at you Ford Flex, that was a hellish ride). This being a GT is way cooler. The convertible top, if I am honest, I really don’t care about. Plus, 3 weeks? Sounds like I could get this for $800 and then hit pull-a-part for some new interior bits because GrandTouringInjection has me only seeing that front seat as “fart-riddled” and nothing else.
Hmm, a badly built basically bespoke GM product from nearly 40 years ago vs. Cheyenne’s portable stripping vehicle (it’s seen some things).
I never thought I would say this, but I’m taking the PT Cruiser. Change out the fart-riddled bottom cushion along with a quick tune up and you can drive it for a few years until you can afford something better.
One of the earliest shakedown trips I made in my first car (a blue Volvo 240 sedan) was to bring my mother to JC Penney. Turned out the battery was strong enough to start the first time, but not the second, and we hadn’t brought a jump box, though I did at least have cables.
Two young fellows parked across from us in a PT GT convertible in this shade of blue, who’d’ve set off my gaydar if they’d been in a Chevy Lumina, were willing to offer us a jump, and from there we and the Volvo got home just fine (and yes, I bought a new battery).
The PT gets my vote, though it probably would have regardless.
At $1000 and pretty clean for the price, I predict the PT will be hard to beat.
No PT ever
I wouldn’t be caught dead in a PT cruiser. I have no choice, I’d have to pick the Allante. When American car companies try t be Italian, it’s better than when they try to drum up nostalgia for the 1930s. Besides PT cruiser drivers are the kind of people who book cruises and put a pineapple on their cabin door.
I chose the PT over the Allante. I’d rather have a crapped out ’72 Karmann Ghia convertible to throw my money at, over either of these pieces of crap.
I’m a big Allante fan (and big Christina Applegate fan as well), but not that Allante.
The Bundy Bounce, still selling Allantes.
I knew it! The Autopian is full of PT Cruiser fans. They just usually keep it on the down low.
The PT would make an excellent beach car. Throw a Garfield beach towel over the seat and call it done.
I would consider an Allante, but not that one.