We’ve reached the end of a short week, and I’ve been subjecting you to some pretty ridiculous choices. But you’ve all been good sports about it, and now I’m giving you a chance to decide which one of our three finalists deserves a spot in the Autopian’s admittedly weird fleet – and who you’d like to see fix it up.
We looked at two fiberglass-bodied kit cars yesterday, and neither one made any of you particularly happy. One was grossly underpowered even if you replaced its batteries and got it running, the other was grossly overpriced for what you got, and they were both just kinda gross. The fake Ford beat the “electric banana” by nearly two-to-one, and most of you who did vote for the Invader wanted to convert it back to gas power.
Me, I’d take the T-bucket. I think I’d have more fun with it. It’s a good platform to experiment on, since it’s not really a classic and nobody really cares about it. A manual transmission swap wouldn’t be out of the question, and that fiberglass body would end up six layers thick in paint after trying out different looks. I’d rather have a four-seat touring body than the two-seat roadster, so there’s room for Betty, Veronica, and Jughead, but this would do.

If you’ve been around a while, you may have noticed that the writers here have some bizarre taste in cars, and make some questionable purchases. My now-sold MG, which only managed just over a thousand miles under its own power in my nine years of ownership, was actually one of the saner choices. We’ve had derelict mail Jeeps that had no business being on the road, tiny kei cars that were more Bondo than metal, moldy Grandma-mobiles pulled out of backyards and forced back to life against their will, and glorified golf carts purchased from China. And that’s not even counting the cursed taxicab or the butt-ugly SUV-ish thing across the Atlantic. This week, I’ve tried to come up with even worse ideas than those, and I’m not entirely sure I succeeded.
But what I’d like to know from you all is: Which one of these cars should have been a project of ours? And which one of us do you think should have been chosen to undertake it? We’ll go over the choices again, and then you can vote for a car and assign it to someone in the comments.
1982 Pontiac T1000 with a sketchy engine swap

GM’s T platform is the sort of car you don’t see anymore: built to a price, made from simple components, and only just good enough to hold together until the warranty expires. The fact that any survive at all says more about the owner’s care than the car’s build quality. Even if you find a “good” Chevette or T1000, it will still be crude and underpowered. The crude part is hard to do anything about, but you can definitely up the power – and the most sure-fire way to do that is with an engine swap.

Unfortunately, I think the builder of this one chose poorly. It has a 4.3 liter V6 out of a 2003 Chevy pickup, backed by a much older TH350 automatic. It uses the stock ECU to control the engine, but not the transmission, because it’s far too old for electronic controls. The whole thing seems half-assed and cobbled together from whatever was lying around, instead of carefully planned-out. If it were me, I’d yank that V6 out and look for something smaller and lighter, a twin-cam four-cylinder of some sort, along with a manual gearbox (this car was originally a manual). Plan it right, and it would still be much faster than stock, but drive and handle a whole lot better. And you would be able to close the hood.
1948 REO Speed Wagon 1.5 ton flatbed

Old trucks, like old houses, seem to have an ability to age gracefully. This truck must have been really handsome when it was new, but now that it’s pushing eighty years old, it could be seen as a pile of junk. Instead, it looks dignified, an elder statesman of the open road, enjoying a well-earned retirement. You could restore it, and make it gleam again, but cars are only original once, and you can’t create a new shiny version of it without destroying what it is now. And that is not an idea that should be taken lightly.

So if you decide to leave the exterior alone, you still have to do something about the mechanicals. Your first inclination might be to do an engine swap on this one too, or maybe drop that beautiful original sheetmetal onto a modern truck chassis, but I wouldn’t be too hasty to do that either. These old flathead sixes are simple machines, with low compression (probably around 6:1, if I had to guess) and a wide tolerance for tuning. Since it turns over freely, there’s a good chance it’s in good enough shape to run. In other words, as soon as you are able, I think you’d find this engine willing.
2017 Ford T-bucket kit car

Hot rods are polarizing; kit car hot rods even more so. They are definitely vehicles of a bygone era; you don’t find too many young people who would be interested in this car. But I think dismissing it as a “boomer ride” is a bit short-sighted too. There are so many things you could do with this car. It will never be eligible for events like The Race Of Gentlemen, or other events that demand originality, but there’s no reason it can’t look like one of those cars. Or break out the orange metalflake paint, and build it as a tribute to ’60s show rods. Get some steel wheels, paint them red, slap on some wide whitewalls, and do the rat-rod thing. Or even, if you must, go crazy with the billet aluminum and color-matched everything, Boyd Coddington-style. (Ugh.)

The point is, a vehicle style with this much history behind it can’t simply be dismissed as a cast-off relic of one generation. Hate it if you want, but don’t disrespect it. And feel free to ditch the Chevy small-block and three-speed automatic; there are far more interesting power sources for a hot rod. And that’s coming from a Chevy small-block fan.
So, your mission is to choose which one you think would make a good project vehicle for a writer here. Vote for your favorite in the poll, and then let me know in the comments whose driveway you’re dumping it in.









Reo Speedwagon to David. Isn’t he looking for a cool truck that’s exempt from smog tests? I also have the most confidence in him to actually fix rusty things.
I would’ve taken the T-1000. Yank out the V6 and replace it with a 2.0liter Ecotec LTG turbo 4 cylinder (plenty of wrecked late model Camaros with that engine) and the associated 6-speed manual since the T-1000 is already set up for a manual.
Less weight,better performance and it wouldn’t take up as much space in the engine compartment.
I think each of these are suited to different Autopian contributor:
T1000 – Give it to Thomas Hundal and let it just terrorize the greater Toronto metro area before it rusts into oblivion in a couple years
REO Speedwagon – give it to The Bishop so he can restomod it into the most streamline moderne medium dutytruck that ever existed
T-Bucket – Adrian keeps the paint scheme (paints the engine block black of course) and adds a Singars surplus head unit to listen to KMFDM and Ladytron, or a 30s art deco style piece and show up the romantic goths and rockabilly goths if they’re still around
At least you could put a 2.2 Ecotec and a stick in the Chevette clone. It would still be poop brown and a horrible car, but at least you could have a teen daily drive it.
For less money, I bought a 2008 Fusion manual that actually runs and passes smog. Sometimes boring is better…
REO to Jason. He seems to do well with old trucks and I think could use it to its potential.
The REO goes to David, to feed his rust habit.
Reo would be a cool build just put a new power train and rear end in it and maybe strengthen the frame if need be.
But I think the t1000 fits better. It’s kinda already something and is quite interesting looking. The 80s bmws became a thing then other 80s European cars but 80s American cars other then late fox bodies seem to be left out. That t1000 is already on its way to be the American e30. And it’s probably repeatable. There has to be some of them that didn’t get crushed yet.
It wouldn’t be my choice but I can’t see you guys doing anything but the T1000. No one seems to have a need for speed, so the bucket is out. When it comes to trucks everyone but DT seems to prefer the equivalent to a Toyota Camry so TEO is out. I could see you guys and girls doing the Vecter and maybe racing the Chang Li
The T1000 is a potential nightmare. Might be a hoot, but that’s a horrible basis for a project. If you ever got it running and roadworthy, it’d probably wind up killing you.
The REO would be fun, if you had the space, resources, time, and money, but holy crap, that could potentially take over your entire life if you let it.
The T-bucket wouldn’t be my first choice of a project, but it’d be manageable. It wouldn’t be soul-sucking, it wouldn’t be too expensive, you could do it in manageable chunks and be able to drive it in between. I’d ditch that effin’ engine, though…there’s gotta be a better choice in the Ford bins.
OR A TURBO K24 W/NOS LOLSticking with the cookie. Oreo Speedwagon it is.
The Pontiac’s new wheels and tires lead me to drasctically overvalue it, but there’s nothing else to get me excited here.
Picked the REO and giving it to SWG. Keep the body patina as is, scrap the bed and make it a wooden stake bed.
Picking the T bucket because it would be interesting to have someone daily it for a week or so especially with the weather getting cooler 🙂
I went for the T1000 as it seems to me that taking a wrongheaded project and making it right is the most Autopian of the choices. That said, I don’t blame people for going with the REO. I do think it will need to be fitted with an eight-track player and the complete REO discography to blast as you do whatever the hell you’re going to do with a beast like that. (And yes, that would be mandatory.)
Mark Tucker and his T-bucket kit car.
Dave, and two other Autopian contributors have to take the Speedwagon from where it rests to deliver a load of provisions to a shelter/soup kitchen/food bank at least a 1000mi away in time to prepare Thanksgiving dinner.
The obvious choice is to make David use the REO instead of the Comanche, but I think the better answer is for Mercedes to use it to cart around Smart4Twos. I bet you could fit in a couple side-by-side. The best part is that, if the flathead 6 fails, the Smarts could probably tandem-tow the truck, since I bet they make similar horsepower.
I voted for the P-T-vette.
I’d figure how to make the Trax/Trailblazer 1.2L turbo-3 fit in longitudinally. And drop in a 6-speed from a Solstice.
I’d probably disable the auto start/stop function, though. 🙂
I can easily imagine them showing up at Pebble in the Speedwagon, Torch driving, his twin brother from England slouched next to him in the cab and everyone – EVERYONE – else waving from the stakebed. Put the shrimp wheelbarrow in the middle.
Lightly resto-mod the REO:
There are lots of simple things you can do to improve power without heavily modifying the engine. No idea what size piston but often engines in that era were available in “high altitude” variants that gave a bit more squish. With modern gas, more compression will get a bit more pop out of each pot. A modest port-and-polish job improves breathing and is the kind of work you could expect a modder of the period to do without dropping in a whole new engine. It’ll look and (mostly) sound original but it’ll have a bit more go. At this point the carb will probably be significantly undersized so how the builder addresses that is up to them. If the truck uses vacuum-powered windshield wipers, they’ll probably work great now.
New transmission. Fab up an adapter housing, bolt on the transmission of your choice. Completely reversible, no permanent mods required. Old transmission goes on a shelf and waits.
Upgrade to 12v electrics if it isn’t already. Relamp everything with LEDs for more brightness, reliability etc. Starting works better.
Rebuild the rest of the driveline. Upgrade to new materials where possible. Retain the original gearing; we’re picking up driving flexibility with the new transmission. But let’s not fool ourselves, this thing will never be a highway cruiser.
Interior: all new where possible, but in exactly the same pattern as before with perhaps a few concessions to seat comfort. Add seatbelts, because I can’t even start the damn car without the seatbelt on anymore.
Exterior: go hog wild. All new paint. Make it gleam. Pinstriping where necessary because often these things were straight up gorgeous. The paint job might not be original but repainting an old truck isn’t unoriginal either.
Transmission of your choice? Speaking of, how long has it been since we last saw a comment from Jatco Xtronic CVT?
New Venture 4500. Big gear spread from 6.43-0.73; that deep 1st makes the most of whatever power you can squeeze out of the REO’s original flathead straight six. And it’s rated to 14,000+ GVWR so it should be good for farm truck duty.
Is Jatco a forum member? I’m trying to imagine a CVT in the REO now and it’s just not happening. You’d have better luck adapting a big hydrostatic transmission from an ag tractor.
I vote REO Speedwagon as a replacement for Torch’s Marshall. Leaky coolant and a chipped flywheel were just practice for what this “speed” wagon will need.
Choosing for myself, REO for no good reason except it’s cool. But for this exercise I have to go bucket, and it’s destined for Our Goth Uncle across the pond.
Build the Reo into an RV.
My vote is for the Pontiac because it’s the cheapest of these three heaps of shit.
And with the Pontiac, I would either part it out or just drive/tow it as-is to the scrapper.
That one hits home, Mark. Absolute poetry.
Miss Mercedes
in the librarywith the REO Speedwagon is the right call. With a camper shell in back it becomes the Autopian Mobile Command (AMC). But I can think of some wacky combinations. Brian has to street-park the T-bucket in NYC. Torch has to put a 2CV motor in the T1000. Adrian has to daily the Invader GT!