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Which Pair Is The Winning Hand? 1982 & 1984 Renault Fuegos vs 1977 & 1979 Alfa Romeo Spiders

Sbsd 5 21 2026

Building one good car out of two damaged or questionable ones sounds easy enough: just figure out which one is the “good” car and which is the “parts” car, and start swapping parts over. But I’ve tried it, and it’s a lot more work than I ever want to do again. But for someone with more enthusiasm and less wisdom, either of today’s choices would do a great job of filling your garage up with clutter for years.

That teal Saturn won again yesterday, but you know what? I’m sick of writing about it. So I’m calling an audible. The mystery car came in second, so I’m giving it the win and using it as one of today’s choices. That Saturn is cool and all, but you can overdo a good thing. (Looking at you, Marvel.)

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I’m surprised that MR2 didn’t do better, actually. Sure, the interior is rough, and the title is branded, but it’s a cool little car. It is a little expensive for what it is, I suppose.

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So, what was the Bishop’s mystery choice? A Renault Fuego, of course. Two, actually. This complicated things, because I had to find another pair of cars. Luckily, I remembered that I had seen a pair of Alfa Romeos recently, so I just had to track them down. Let’s check them out, and see which two-fer is the better option.

1984 Renault Fuego plus 1982 Fuego parts car – $2,999

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Image: Facebook Marketplace seller

Engine/drivetrain: 2.2-liter OHC inline 4, three-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Ypsilanti, MI

Odometer reading: 37,000 miles

Operational status: Runs well, needs brake and transmission work

Of course it’s a Fuego. What else would it be? The Bishop has similar taste in cars to me, or at least a similar appreciation for the unusual and unloved. And cars don’t get much more unloved and unusual than a Renault Fuego. Sporty coupes were big in the ’80s, but the Fuego just missed the mark. Its build quality and reliability weren’t great, its handling was lacking, and its styling wasn’t for everyone. Not many were sold, and very few survive today. When one comes up for sale, it’s usually scruffy, low-mileage, and just pulled out of storage. Like this one.

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Image: Facebook Marketplace seller

The Fuego was available with a couple of different drivetrains. You could get a 1.6-liter engine, a 1.6 with a turbo, or, starting in 1984, a 2.2-liter four, which this one has. It also has an automatic transmission. This probably makes it a rarer car than the turbo models, actually; I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an automatic Fuego. It starts and runs fine, and it’s kinda-sorta drivable, but it has a leaking front brake line, and there’s some mention of a toggle switch to shift the transmission, which makes no sense to me.

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Image: Facebook Marketplace seller

Apart from some faded paint and a couple of popped seams on the seats, it’s actually in really nice shape. I don’t see any signs of rust or damage, and it rides on a nice set of Alliance GTA wheels. The cloth sunroof opens and closes, but it needs new seals, so it’s duct-taped shut. Can you still get sunroof seals for a Renault Fuego? I have no idea.

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Image: Facebook Marketplace seller

This is the parts car, a 1982 non-turbo model, which means it has the wheezy 1.6-liter engine. The seller says it has a nice interior, but we don’t get any photos to back up that assertion. Two spare transmissions and a whole stack of service manuals are also included.

1977 and 1979 Alfa Romeo Spiders – $4,000

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 2.0-liter DOHC inline 4, five-speed manual, RWD

Location: Ridgecrest, CA

Odometer reading: 79,000 and 81,000 miles

Operational status: “Both ran within the last 3 years”

Italian sports cars are never not going to be special. Whether or not they’re worth their often high prices, or the hassles involved in keeping them on the road, is up for debate, but they’re always going to be cool. And while some enthusiasts are able to spring for big-ticket Italians like Ferraris and Lamborghinis, for the rest of us, there are the Spiders. Both Fiat and Alfa Romeo sold a bunch of little convertibles here in the US, and a surprising number of them are still kicking around. Restored examples are getting expensive, but rough ones are still pretty accessible. This pair of rust-free Alfa Spiders is going to be a lot of work for someone, but if you just have to have your Italian car fix, they’re a pretty cheap way to start.

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Image: Craigslist seller

The Alfa Spider was in production for an astonishing twenty-seven years over four generations. The body style stayed largely the same, but you can always tell the generations apart from the rear. These two are from the second generation, with a Kamm tail but no big black rubber spoiler like the third generation had. Both of these cars have been sitting in an airplane hangar for a decade since the owner passed away. Unfortunately, they passed away without telling anyone where the titles were, so these two are being sold with no titles. Jump through enough hoops at the DMV, and you can probably get them titled again without too much trouble.

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Image: Craigslist seller

They’re both reasonably clean outside, but rough inside. One has no top at all, and the other needs its top replaced. One has a new exhaust, the other was tuned up shortly before they were put in storage, and both have allegedly run within the past three years. Both need new brakes. Both of these should have the 2.0-liter engine with SPICA mechanical fuel injection, and you should have no trouble finding parts or advice to get them running.

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Interior stuff could be harder to find. Better join an owner’s club that can hook you up with a source for parts. I’m sure someone has a barn full of Alfa Spider parts, including an entire interior for at least one of these.

And thus ends the whole “mystery car” experiment, at least for now. I’ll probably try a variation on it again later, but for now, we’re going back to two known cars each day. One thing you’ll never see again, however, is a “neither” option. You have to choose. Will it be the oddly-styled French coupes, or the derelict Italian roadsters?

 

 

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JJ
JJ
2 days ago

I’ve had a rusty Spider before, so two? Bring them on!

Stephen Reed
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Stephen Reed
2 days ago

If I’m going to make a financial mistake, I want it to be fun and with a manual.

Alfa for me.

SlowBrownWagon
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SlowBrownWagon
2 days ago

Now all I need is 4 more left coast Alfas and I can make one floorpan. I’m just gonna get creative with my Corvette parts car.

M SV
M SV
2 days ago

Alfas, reminds me of the 3 for $500 to $1500 944 deals that always used to pop up 20 years ago.

Blake Darden
Blake Darden
2 days ago

Since the journalist didn’t due their due diligence the person selling the Renault is Isaac Vance and he is currently selling them on marketplace! Shame on the journalist for not providing credit after using these pictures without getting permission

Dan Cluley
Dan Cluley
1 day ago
Reply to  Blake Darden

The header above the pictures for each car is a link directly to the For Sale Ad they came from.

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
2 days ago

Alfas for me. Once getting one finished, it’ll be a lot more fun to drive than the Renault.

Nick Adams
Nick Adams
2 days ago

There’s still a healthy Alfa parts pipeline, and a huge community of people keeping them going.

Do Fuego parts even exist?

05LGT
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05LGT
2 days ago

Jingle bells
French folk smell
Alfas all the way

FastBlackB5
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FastBlackB5
2 days ago

Italian win here easy. I would rather have a running Alfa, and as older than 35 years in my state a bill of sale is all I need to get new titles.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
2 days ago

Well, this was easy too- Alfas! No question about it. The Renault Fuegos were just plain junk. I do like the Alfa Spiders but as far as a realistic Alfa, I’d prefer a 164 w/ the chrome intakes. It’s too bad about no titles, but I would play detective and see if I could track them down somehow…if not, then go through the process to get new titles

Christopher Derrick
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Christopher Derrick
3 days ago

I learned to drive on one of the approximately three Renault 18i’s sold in the United States and so despite it’s total lack of reliability even when new nostalgia is drawing me to the Fuegos like a moth to flame.

Bill C
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Bill C
1 day ago

There was a turbo trim Fuego that teenage me thought was kind of hot. I have a distinct memory of seeing one in Wash DC on 17th St where it crosses the Mall. It had a ground effects kind of package and a heckblende and spoiler on the rear and it was burgundy. Driven by a richy-rich looking young lawyer or perhaps a GW or Georgetown student. Never plentiful, but 18i’s were a regular enough sighting on the East Coast during the 80’s, and the wagon was nice. For awhile Renaults were kind of an alternative to a VW and/or zee more expensive Germans.

Christopher Derrick
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Christopher Derrick
1 day ago
Reply to  Bill C

My parent’s was a black 18i wagon, the top trim level with leather seats and stuff. It was a nice car when it ran, but it was broken a lot unfortunately. Ours was in Chicago, and I honestly do not remember ever seeing another 18i on the road, ever. I did like the car, though. I got my first speeding ticket in it (81 in a 55) and it would have been higher because if I hadn’t been slowing down because I had that thing pegged and the speedo was way above 85 (it had an 85mph speedo but no peg so it kept turning but with no numbers.) Ah, good times!

Nocalray
Nocalray
3 days ago

As a big fan of Italian cars, and open top motoring I have to go with the Alfas. Plus the Fuego is rocking a slushbox, and that’s never any fun. I’ve been driving Fiat 124 spiders for decades now so I think I could keep an Alfa going.

William Domer
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William Domer
2 days ago
Reply to  Nocalray

But for how long?

Nocalray
Nocalray
2 days ago
Reply to  William Domer

For as long as I can still turn a wrench.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
3 days ago

I really don’t see how this is even a competition.

In the WORST case scenario with the Alfas, you have some sexy Italian driveway art.

In the best case scenario with the Fuegos, you have a Fuego, but in the WORST (and let’s face it most likely) case scenario, you have TWO Fuegos.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
2 days ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

Plus with front engine rear drive the swap options are plentiful, where are you going to find a Fuego transmission, much less the auto?

Jonee Eisen
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Jonee Eisen
3 days ago

The Renaults are way more interesting. Shame about the lack of a third pedal, though.

Bill C
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Bill C
1 day ago
Reply to  Jonee Eisen

The Fuego’s fuzzy dash always baffled me.

Mike F.
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Mike F.
3 days ago

Ugh. I was all set to come in with “how could two Alfas not be better than two Fuegos?” The Fuego never lit any fuego in me and the automatic would just wreck whatever was good about the driving experience. In contrast to that, I’ve always loved those little Alfas. But then I looked at the pictures. I ended up going Alfa. SBS is always a fantasy situation, so if I can include the fantasy that I have a place to turn two shitty Alfas into one decent one as well as the inclination to spend the next couple of years doing so, then I guess that makes them the correct choice.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
3 days ago

vive le flame

I trust Renault more than I trust Fiat lol

05LGT
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05LGT
2 days ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

I agree with you that the topless Alfa sisters are not trustworthy. They will wrong me. That’s where we part was though because I am so there for it. We’ll fix things up, it will be fantastic when things are good, they’ll always be beautiful, exotic, interesting, FUN. The slushbox Fuegos…. If you’re lucky the only burning you will feel is resentment of a mistaken decision.

Last edited 2 days ago by 05LGT
Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
3 days ago

No need for a title in Maine if it’s more than 25 years old… Alfa for me (again). Though I would prefer a Bosch-injection car to these mechnically injected cars.

I was excited by the Fuego until the transmission – eeewwww. They put the “tragic” in autotragic for sure. Shame, because Fuegos are very, very cool (hot?) cars.

Bill C
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Bill C
1 day ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

Not popular, but I always thought Fuegos were tres cool.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 day ago
Reply to  Bill C

Same. Even with no power they are nice to drive in that way that only French cars manage. Soft and smooth yet very controlled.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
3 days ago

That lead pic of matching Alfas, how could I say no?

Kookster
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Kookster
3 days ago

wait… runs well, needs transmission work… uh, ok. That tracks

RataTejas
RataTejas
3 days ago
Reply to  Kookster

also needs brakes. So runs well, except for the parts that make it go, or stop. Renault, checks out.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
2 days ago
Reply to  RataTejas

Sounds like a Yugo…Yu go, but Yu… don’t stop. Ha ha

Noahwayout
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Noahwayout
3 days ago

The Renault is like an Audi B2 Coupe crossed with the rear window of a late 80s Sentra Sport Coupe. I’m into it after the manual swap!

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
3 days ago

Oh, and another reason to refuse fealty to those Alphas. The Graduate. I’m old enough to have been seduced, not by Anne Bankroft (so much), but by the notion that the titular character was the least bit sympathetic.

I think the only real lesson from the movie is that Italian cars will strand you on the side of the road.

EricTheViking
EricTheViking
3 days ago
Reply to  Gen3 Volt

For the upteemth time, Alfa is spelled as Alfa, not Alpha! Alfa is derived from the original abbreviation of Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili (Lombardian Automobile Factory Corporation), initially as A.L.F.A. It was changed to Alfa Romeo after the acquistion by Nicola Romeo in 1915.

So tiresome seeing Americans misspelling it as Alpha many times…

It’s same with Fiat that started as FIAT (Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino).

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
3 days ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

Yes, posting to a gearhead site, I should know better, but it’s not like it’s been in our Yank lexicon for any appreciable reason all these years.

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
3 days ago
Reply to  Gen3 Volt

Anyway for the sharp-eyed, the real sin I committed in that post was misspelling the magnificent Anne Bancroft’s last name.

Mel, sorry, your beloved partner in life deserves better.

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