It’s day four of our exploration of international shitboxes, and today we’re off to sunnier skies to look at a couple of cars from Spain. And actually, both of these cars were built in Spain, under license from other manufacturers. You could get similar cars in other places, but not quite the same; these versions are uniquely Spanish.
Yesterday’s cars were in Ireland, which is still among my favorite places I’ve ever visited. Tip: If you’re ever in Cork, do yourself a favor and stop by Arthur Mayne’s for lunch. Great food, wonderful atmosphere, and absolutely delightful staff. But how would you get there? Well, though the vote count was lower than usual, the results were clear: the bright blue Peugeot 206 is your choice.
It’s mine too. I’m not going all the way to Ireland for a damn Toyota. I just put it in there because I know some of you don’t trust French cars. But really, going all the way there to drive something that’s basically the same as a Tercel you could get back home is like asking for a Bud Light at the pub. Don’t be that person. Get the Peugeot.

I’ve never been to Spain (though I kinda like the music), but it’s definitely a place I wouldn’t mind visiting. Any place where everybody takes a nap in the afternoon is all right in my book. It’s not a place I typically associate with cars, however, but maybe I should; apparently Spain is the eighth-largest car manufacturing country in the world. These two were both built there, and have spent their lives there. They’re both well over the minimum age for importing into the US now. Is either one worth it? Let’s check them out and see.
1970 SEAT 1430 – €6,900

Engine/drivetrain: 1.6-liter DOHC inline 4, five-speed manual, RWD
Location: Argamasilla De Calatrava, Spain
Odometer reading: 125,000 kilometers
Operational status: I have no idea, probably runs just fine
Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo, or SEAT for short, is arguably Spain’s best-known automaker. These days, it is a subsidiary of Volkswagen, but it got its start making license-built Fiats for Spanish consumption. It cranked out its own version of the Fiat 600 by the zillions, doing for Spain what cars like the Beetle, 2CV, and Model T did for other places. After a while, SEAT branched out from Fiat’s designs, and this boxy little sports sedan is one of the results. It’s based on the Fiat 124, with elements of the 125 as well.

This particular online classified site is maddeningly short on details. There’s no description of the car at all, just a list of some facts and figures. And to make matters worse, this car is mis-listed as a SEAT 1200 Sport, which is a two-door fastback that looks nothing like this at all. I had to do a little digging to uncover this car’s true identity. The 1430 is powered by a twin-cam four-cylinder, which I assume is a license-built version of the Fiat Lampredi engine. It came in three different sizes; I was able to tell which one this car has because the power output is listed in the ad, probably for tax reasons. How does it run? I haven’t the faintest idea. For this price, though, it had better purr like a kitten.

It’s pure ’70s European sports sedan inside, with an upright seating position, nice little chrome accents everywhere, and not much else. It’s in great shape, from what I can tell, but it’s a pretty low-mileage car. It only has the equivalent of about 80,000 miles on it. As far as I’m concerned, it needs more; I’d love to hop in and put this car through its paces.

Between Fiat, SEAT, and the various VAZ/Lada variants, this car’s profile might be one of the most common car shapes in Europe. Not that there’s much “shape” to it; ask a five-year-old to draw a car, and they’ll either draw a Beetle, or a Fiat 124 sedan. I’ve always liked it, though; it’s no-nonsense and timeless. I like the Rostyle-esque wheels on it, and the driving lights are a nice touch.
1978 Chrysler 150 – €5,600

Engine/drivetrain: 1.4-liter OHV inline 4, four- or five-speed manual, FWD
Location: Madrid, Spain
Odometer reading: 44,000 kilometers
Operational status: Your guess is as good as mine
Chrysler’s history is a muddled, jumbled mess of acquisitions, mergers, sales, bankruptcies, and bailouts. But there’s one period of its history that’s not well known to its American fans: Chrysler Europe, which existed from 1967 to 1978. It was made up of Simca in France, the Rootes Group in the UK, and Barreiros in Spain. Chrysler sold the division to PSA Peugeot Citroën in 1978, which is ironic because both companies are now part of Stellantis. This car was built in the Barreiros factory in Spain, in the last year of Chrysler Europe’s existence, and is based on the Simca 1307.

Because of the lack of information in the ad, I can’t tell you a whole lot about this car either. I can tell you that the 1307 on which it is based is front-wheel-drive, powered by Simca’s “Poissy” four-cylinder engine. In smaller displacements, this engine was found in the back of the Simca 1000, and in larger displacements, it powered the early versions of the Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon. Here it displaces 1.4 liters and drives the front wheels, though I don’t know whether it has a four- or a five-speed transmission.

I wish I could show you the interior of this car, but the ad only shows the exterior. So I guess I’ll use the space where I usually talk about the inside to point out how much this car looks like the first-generation VW Passat, which was sold here as the Dasher. “All cars look the same” is nothing new.

It’s in great shape, as far as I can tell, but it’s practically new. There’s something comforting about the idea that low-mileage survivors exist in other places. You know that Cutlass Ciera that somebody’s grandma left behind, that looks like it just rolled out of the showroom? This is the Spanish equivalent of that.
One of my favorite aspects of automotive history is all of the license-built and complete knock-down kit versions of cars that pop up in unusual places. I love finding out that a variant of a car existed in a place I never knew about. These two I vaguely knew about, but not the Spanish versions, and I had a blast doing the legwork to find out their family trees. I hope you had fun reading about them, too. Which one would you rather have?









I wouldn’t be doing my job as an owner of a Chrysler Europe product if I didn’t pick the Chrysler 150. Besides, I think there’s an unwritten law that if you’re going to get a Fiat 124 derivative, it has to have come from behind the Iron Curtain.
Heeeeey blast from the past. One of those Chrysler 150s (in white, natch) was the first car I remember, the one my father drove us around in when he wasn’t out there putting 50k km or more a year on it.
It had a hard speed limiter at 120km/h (75mph for the metric impaired). Like you heard a literal “thunk” and the car stopped accelerating altogether.
Also only had speakers on the front, us kids on the back seats were always arguing about the volume.
You can tell that folks here are really into cars because unless I missed it, no one yet has said anything about, “gettin’me some.Poissy”. That said, that SEAT is way cool. Even if it’s slow, it drives the correct wheels with a correct set of gears and is just a neat looking car.. The Chrysler just doesn’t come close.
Sorry I liked the around the world options but these two cars aren’t desirable in the US OR ANYWHERE. GET STRAIGHT
Hugely disagree as it’s emotional, subjective and deeply irrational. Live that SEAT
I chose the Chrysler that way I can have unlimited visits to the HR department every time I talk about the engine name. (Yeesh!)
I’d take a SEAT in the 1430! I wonder how comfortable the seats are, ha ha. Yeah, it looks like a rally car so looks like a blast to drive. We already have a lot of Chryslers here, plus they can’t even take pics of the interior?
Just like I ain’t going to Ireland for a Toyota, I ain’t going to Spain for a Chrysler. I don’t think I’m even going down the street for a Chrysler (300 SRT8 excepted). I dig the SEAT profile, always loved that shape.
I’ll take that lovely Roy Axe seventies design: Green one!
Spanish ride height for rough roads is also very cool 🙂
Looks like a nice place to shop. They have a Chrysler 180 in the background!
The “generic car of the sixties” look of the 124 (or 125 – and all of their many clones) have never really been me.
I know nothing about either car, so I’m voting for the one with color, even if it is reflecting pool green.
Does it come with dead duck stickers???
I don’t know anything about either car, but it only took the thumbnail to make me lust for the SEAT. That is friggin’ sweet! Like a Datsun 510 sorta. Just cute as effin’ hell and I want it. 🙂
Going to Spain to drive a Crappy French car with the Chrysler name slapped onto it makes no sense. Even if the alternative is a spanish copy of a Fiat 124. Honestly, was that Fiat from Italy so great in europe that every country had a go at making one of there own?
The Simca looks almost identical to my parents’ 1980 VW Dasher hatchback. That thing sucked! My mom drove it 3 years and it kept breaking down. She finally put her foot down and bought an 83 Camry. But then my dad decided to sell his perfectly reliable ’72 super Beetle and continue driving the Dasher for another 4 years, a decision I’ve never understood.
The SEAT is a classic shape and the red interior is a must have. Will it make it out to Needles?
That SEAT reminds me of a BMW 2002; I’d like to take it on a tour of the country before importing it. The Chrysler is interesting, but even if it’s nearly a Simca, it’d be hard to sign an import document for a “Chrysler”. Plus, are those tires small or does it ride really high?
Had to go SEAT, that thing is adorable! That said, if its not the DOHC version, $7,800ish American plus shipping is crack pipe territory.
Just three examples of 124/1430:
https://www.autoscout24.es/anuncios/seat-otros-d-gasolina-burdeos-cat_ma64mo21031-4b98e55d-259b-44ec-b4ef-272af6307d00?sort=standard&desc=0&position=25&source_otp=t10&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown&boost_level=t10&applied_boost_level=t10&relevance_adjustment=organic&boosting_product=none
https://www.autoscout24.es/anuncios/seat-otros-gasolina-cat_ma64mo21031-5bb50a3a-beb4-4d30-bfdc-2c08e26b07f1?sort=standard&desc=0&position=16&source_otp=t10&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown&boost_level=t10&applied_boost_level=t10&relevance_adjustment=organic&boosting_product=none
https://www.autoscout24.es/anuncios/seat-otros-1430-gasolina-azul-cat_ma64mo21031-7acde2f0-9e5c-447a-b939-0e433df6e154?sort=standard&desc=0&position=23&source_otp=t10&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown&boost_level=t10&applied_boost_level=t10&relevance_adjustment=organic&boosting_product=none
The first one I am sure it is a basic model with the 1197cc OHV engine. I couldn’t fine more for sale on those two websites (two of the major used car websites in Spain).
holy smokes! I had no idea they were that valuable.
They “aren’t” as such. Spain is a relatively small market, we were an autarchic dictatorship until the mid-70s and the classic car scene is small.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if a fair share have been exported to other countries.
I want that red Seat interior.
And if parts are hard to find – There’s always Cuba!
Both cars have impressively nice interiors! I was all in on the SEAT until Erik shared a link to pictures of the brown leather(?) in his post. Close call, but I’m feeling boxy today!
Don’t get excited, this verison only sported the OHV engine, not the brilliant Lampredi twincam.
Thanks for this variation of SBSD this week, Mark!
I’ve been having a lot of fun reading and choosing and I hope you’ve been having fun finding and researching these cars.
I hope this becomes a recurring variant if it is not too much of a PIA for ya!
I’ll take the SEAT 1430… I just love how it looks. Hopefully it’s an actual 1600 or 1800cc performance model and not an ‘all show, no go’ example.
It is a 1968-1971 series one car (tail lights give it away) with the 1438cc OHV four cylinder. It was good for 70bhp, 10 more than the 124 with the same engine. The twin cams wouldn’t come until the series three was launched in 1973.
Oh well… I’ll just have to be a poseur then.
I’d honestly take both, even though it’s not a León, that SEAT is still pretty cool.
The wheels on that Chrysler are so tiny, even by 70s standards. Could be the massive gap in the wheel arches too.
But what about this one??
https://robledauto.com/Veh%C3%ADculos/chrysler-300m/
The SEAT looks fun, the Chrysler looks boring. SEAT it is.