It’s day four of our exploration of international shitboxes, and today we’re off to sunnier skies to look at a couple of cars from Spain. And actually, both of these cars were built in Spain, under license from other manufacturers. You could get similar cars in other places, but not quite the same; these versions are uniquely Spanish.
Yesterday’s cars were in Ireland, which is still among my favorite places I’ve ever visited. Tip: If you’re ever in Cork, do yourself a favor and stop by Arthur Mayne’s for lunch. Great food, wonderful atmosphere, and absolutely delightful staff. But how would you get there? Well, though the vote count was lower than usual, the results were clear: the bright blue Peugeot 206 is your choice.
It’s mine too. I’m not going all the way to Ireland for a damn Toyota. I just put it in there because I know some of you don’t trust French cars. But really, going all the way there to drive something that’s basically the same as a Tercel you could get back home is like asking for a Bud Light at the pub. Don’t be that person. Get the Peugeot.

I’ve never been to Spain (though I kinda like the music), but it’s definitely a place I wouldn’t mind visiting. Any place where everybody takes a nap in the afternoon is all right in my book. It’s not a place I typically associate with cars, however, but maybe I should; apparently Spain is the eighth-largest car manufacturing country in the world. These two were both built there, and have spent their lives there. They’re both well over the minimum age for importing into the US now. Is either one worth it? Let’s check them out and see.
1970 SEAT 1430 – €6,900

Engine/drivetrain: 1.6-liter DOHC inline 4, five-speed manual, RWD
Location: Argamasilla De Calatrava, Spain
Odometer reading: 125,000 kilometers
Operational status: I have no idea, probably runs just fine
Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo, or SEAT for short, is arguably Spain’s best-known automaker. These days, it is a subsidiary of Volkswagen, but it got its start making license-built Fiats for Spanish consumption. It cranked out its own version of the Fiat 600 by the zillions, doing for Spain what cars like the Beetle, 2CV, and Model T did for other places. After a while, SEAT branched out from Fiat’s designs, and this boxy little sports sedan is one of the results. It’s based on the Fiat 124, with elements of the 125 as well.

This particular online classified site is maddeningly short on details. There’s no description of the car at all, just a list of some facts and figures. And to make matters worse, this car is mis-listed as a SEAT 1200 Sport, which is a two-door fastback that looks nothing like this at all. I had to do a little digging to uncover this car’s true identity. The 1430 is powered by a twin-cam four-cylinder, which I assume is a license-built version of the Fiat Lampredi engine. It came in three different sizes; I was able to tell which one this car has because the power output is listed in the ad, probably for tax reasons. How does it run? I haven’t the faintest idea. For this price, though, it had better purr like a kitten.

It’s pure ’70s European sports sedan inside, with an upright seating position, nice little chrome accents everywhere, and not much else. It’s in great shape, from what I can tell, but it’s a pretty low-mileage car. It only has the equivalent of about 80,000 miles on it. As far as I’m concerned, it needs more; I’d love to hop in and put this car through its paces.

Between Fiat, SEAT, and the various VAZ/Lada variants, this car’s profile might be one of the most common car shapes in Europe. Not that there’s much “shape” to it; ask a five-year-old to draw a car, and they’ll either draw a Beetle, or a Fiat 124 sedan. I’ve always liked it, though; it’s no-nonsense and timeless. I like the Rostyle-esque wheels on it, and the driving lights are a nice touch.
1978 Chrysler 150 – €5,600

Engine/drivetrain: 1.4-liter OHV inline 4, four- or five-speed manual, FWD
Location: Madrid, Spain
Odometer reading: 44,000 kilometers
Operational status: Your guess is as good as mine
Chrysler’s history is a muddled, jumbled mess of acquisitions, mergers, sales, bankruptcies, and bailouts. But there’s one period of its history that’s not well known to its American fans: Chrysler Europe, which existed from 1967 to 1978. It was made up of Simca in France, the Rootes Group in the UK, and Barreiros in Spain. Chrysler sold the division to PSA Peugeot Citroën in 1978, which is ironic because both companies are now part of Stellantis. This car was built in the Barreiros factory in Spain, in the last year of Chrysler Europe’s existence, and is based on the Simca 1307.

Because of the lack of information in the ad, I can’t tell you a whole lot about this car either. I can tell you that the 1307 on which it is based is front-wheel-drive, powered by Simca’s “Poissy” four-cylinder engine. In smaller displacements, this engine was found in the back of the Simca 1000, and in larger displacements, it powered the early versions of the Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon. Here it displaces 1.4 liters and drives the front wheels, though I don’t know whether it has a four- or a five-speed transmission.

I wish I could show you the interior of this car, but the ad only shows the exterior. So I guess I’ll use the space where I usually talk about the inside to point out how much this car looks like the first-generation VW Passat, which was sold here as the Dasher. “All cars look the same” is nothing new.

It’s in great shape, as far as I can tell, but it’s practically new. There’s something comforting about the idea that low-mileage survivors exist in other places. You know that Cutlass Ciera that somebody’s grandma left behind, that looks like it just rolled out of the showroom? This is the Spanish equivalent of that.
One of my favorite aspects of automotive history is all of the license-built and complete knock-down kit versions of cars that pop up in unusual places. I love finding out that a variant of a car existed in a place I never knew about. These two I vaguely knew about, but not the Spanish versions, and I had a blast doing the legwork to find out their family trees. I hope you had fun reading about them, too. Which one would you rather have?









I voted for the green hatchback
If you want interior shots of this chrysler, look here:
https://robledauto.com/Veh%C3%ADculos/chrysler-150-gt/
Monospoke steering wheel!
I love everything about that interior. The leather! Power front windows and rear cranks! Rear headrests but no rear seatbelts! It’s perfect.
That is very helpful info!
These pictures may have changed my vote! Oh well.
Wow – the interior is much nicer than the exterior! And the legroom is insane.
just wow. I can’t undo my vote, but this would’ve been my option otherwise!
I’d have the Seat, even though I had the UK equivalent of the Chrysler (known here as the Alpine) as my second car, back in 80s. Man, that thing had noisy tappets.
I was doing fine reading about both until I got PTSD.
Cutlass Ciera.
Oh God, that thing. My parents had one. Burgandy over burgandy over blech. Terrible car. Now I could pick either or both of those cars or maybe even buy a low price BMW with no history on an auction site because my brain is now full of PTSD.
Possibly Omega? My mother had the Buick Skylark 1980 X Car…she loved it…it looked handsome…but drove like a Lazyboy sofa on a waterbed.
I got PTSD once I got to Chrysler.
The Chrysler gave me Chevy Citation flashbacks…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Citation
The Citation was heavily inspired, both in its transverse/FWD layout, and its fastback bodystyle, by the Lancia Beta, which is another contemporary of the Chrysler and the VW Passat/Dasher Mark mentioned. This type of sedan was A Thing in the ’70s, but ultimately fell victim to hatchback stigma (even though only some of them were actually hatchbacks—the Lancia and, initially, VW had mail-slot trunks).
Why don’t you have a SEAT over there, and we’ll talk about how we’re not picking the Chrysler.
That Seat just looks right in every way.
I am not surprised that the pretty car is winning
I love that green. I love what I can see of that brown interior. I do like a hatchback.
However, I like old boxy things in general, and I want to hear that Fiat twin-cam sing. The modifications are close enough to my taste.
No Fiat Twin Cam unfortunately. This 1st Series 1430 still had the 1438cc OHV four. The twin cams would come with the third series in 1973.
Ah, darn – I was going by Mark’s guesses before coffee, and I especially don’t know much about the SEAT version of these.
I still can’t imagine it not being more fun. Also, finding parts in the United States for the Chrysler wouldn’t be fun, apart from what little might cross-reference to an ’84 Plymouth Horizon.
That little SEAT just does it today. It’s driving the correct wheels with enough cogs to swap to make use of what power that engine has. I bet it handles like a comparative go-kart.
The Chrysler just doesn’t have that same vibe about it. It’s perfectly cromulent. But being a 1970’s economy hatchback means it has the structural rigidity of a fresh tortilla. Three boxes is better than two today.
Did some digging, and judging by the tail lights, it is a first series 1430, actually powered by an OHV 1438cc four giving 70bhp (DIN).
That can be fixed tho, if necessary. I expect it’s plenty fun even as-is.
That means the Chrysler with 85 or so hp might end up being quicker than the SEAT
Could be, although the Chrysler is probably heavier and front wheel drive will give it less traction off the line.
Probably neck and neck, though.
I really like the SEAT. I presume it would be a nightmare to keep that thing on the road in the US, but I genuinely want it. It is a very good looking car (it kinda looks like an even cooler version of a BMW 2002 to me). It gets my vote.
I could have voted for the 150 and felt good about it, though, if the SEAT weren’t so cool. The 150 is kind of a mediocre car, but I love the exterior color. 1970s green needs to make a comeback.
It’s just a Fiat built under license. Parts are readily available.
I’m sure parts are available – that’s not the entirety of the problem. I’m quite confident I do not have the ability to fix a faux Fiat (FEAT?) and I’m not aware of any shops near me that work on them either. It’s not always easy to find people to work on uncommon old cars if you are unable to do so yourself, so I stick with only common vehicles.
That FIAT is the beans. Hook me up.
Dunno. The green hatchback looking thing is oddly appealing. The price on both seems rather high though.
Welcome to the Spanish used car market. Everything costs a fortune! And don’t even try to look at 205 GTIs, 75s, GTVs, E30s, Capris… they are even more expensive.
The Simca is probably more comfortable, but that SEAT has grabbed me by the…you know.
(Closes eyes and stabs blindly in the area of the vote button)
I know nothing about either of these, so I guess I’m getting a…
SEAT?
The SEAT has rally lights. I want the rally lights. Give me the car with the rally lights.
It also has some rally history, as a later 124D version (factory entered) finished 3rd and 4th in the 1977 Rally Montecarlo.
https://e01-expansion.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/01/20/14849121362606.jpg
A lot of these Fiat based little boxes on wheels were quite successful at rallying. Good little cars for it. I imagine 124s and all their variants would be more revered in the scene if it weren’t for their buddies at Lancia strolling up to Maranello and asking Enzo for a few Dino V6s. Also Ford Escorts being wheeled sideways. So they all get included in the video games instead.
The 124 was only rallyed in Spyder from by Fiat and wasn’t very successful. The 131 on the other hand won the Championship three times (admittedly after Fiat decided to “retire” the Stratos) and was far more successful (at international level at least) than the Escort.
The Italians were really great at rallying. And the Fiat Twin Cam is the most successful engine in rallying ever.
The 124 Fiat Abarth Spider Rally won the European Rally Championship, when that was considered the top tier. After that, the WRC became top dog, with the Fiat Abarth 131 taking the title three times.
I’m speaking off my memory without cross-checking, but the Abarth wasn’t introduced until 1973 by which time the WRC was on its first year (won by Alpine and an A110 at the end of their career).
Maybe you are referring to the earlier 124 Sport Spiders?
Damn I hate this site. I ran out of time to edit. Two paragraphs down the drain. The 124 Spider was 1971 or 1972. It was homologated by Fiat, in the form of the Stradale. For enthusiasts with ‘plain’ cars, we could get a hold of the factory dual 40 IDF Weber set up. The 16 valve Abarth head was exceedingly more rare.
1972
The Abarth X1/9 2000 Prototipo is worth a mention as well. It won its first time out. Fiat management decided to go with the 131, as they felt that win on Sunday, sell on Monday thing would net them more sales in a family sedan than a sports car. It had all the goodies. A 16 valve head, fuel injection and a wild snorkel to suck in air for the engine.
They had already experienced that with the Stratos, great car, but how does this help us sell Betas?
Actually the Beta Coupe was homologated in Group 4 and entered in some rallies alongside the Stratos by the factory (but of course wasn’t very successful).
https://www.italian-cars-club.com/Squadra-Beta/image012.jpg
Nevertheless, even if the X1/9 ended up being cancelled, it’s successor, the X1/20 suffered a very different fate…
I mean, the Beta…well, Beta Montecarlo/Scorpion eventually did give rise to the Rally 037. But by then we were well into Gr. B, The Quattro, and things were progressing at breakneck pace.
That said: Lada VFTS. Probably the last time the 124 platform took on Rallying in a serious, factory supported way. Not terribly successful worldwide but seems to have been popular in Hungary.
I’m not understanding your post. The Stratos winning and thus allowing Lancia Betas to be sold (which never really happened) is not the same as the 131 winning and 131s being sold. As for the exxie, if you’re talking competition, yes, it was shelved. The production version lived on until 1988.
My point was precisely the one you say sorry, if it wasn’t clear.
The non-existent connection between the Stratos and Lancia’s road car was something Fiat wanted to avoid with the next rallying entry.
Hence they developed the 131 Abarth, which resembled a normal 131 (although you could argue it was almost as bespoke as the Stratos) and made marketing the victories much easier. And of course dismantled Lancia’s works team in the process (“Stratos retirement”).
The X1/9 was never rallied extensively by the factory outside of the prototypes.
Even in mint condition, that Chrysler is homely from every angle. Time has done nothing to make it quaint or charming in any way. The SEAT, on the other hand, looks fun and friendly. Even in the most boring color and the most ubiquitous 3-box profile in history. I’m not sold on the driving lights, though.
If I wanted a weird Chrysler from another market, I would pick one that was related to the homegrown variety — like one of the many Valiant variants sold overseas. Maybe I would’ve been tempted by a Talbot Horizon or somesuch. So I guess I’ll take a SEAT today.
Earlier than that Barreiros used to produce local variations of the Dart, the ultimate one being the 3700GT.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/1972_Dodge_3700_GT_%286126400909%29.jpg
In Francoist Spain this was the pinnacle of local automotive production, a luxury car through and through.
Yes! I take one of those.
You could get it as a wagon too:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Dodge_Dart_GLE_Familiar_1969.JPG/1920px-Dodge_Dart_GLE_Familiar_1969.JPG
The Spanish Dart even came with 2-litre 65 bhp diesel engine. Not ideal getaway car for the La casa de papel thieves…
It has to be the SEAT, but look at the rolling stock in the background of the
SimcaChrysler pics! 2x Yukons, a 4th gen trans am(?), Jag, Rolls, Dodge Caravan, in among all the Clios and Twingos… What dealership is this?Must be one specialising in American cars. There is also a Chrysler 180 in the background of one the pics!
That SEAT looks so good, the body style reminds me of the Fiat 131 and its rally guises. But I am obligated to pick the forbidden fruit Chrysler, avocado paint and all.
The 131 was the replacement, also built under licence in Spain and with a unique bodystyle option: an estate.
https://www.seatcocheshistoricos.es/SEATHistoricos/assets/ot115_131_familiar_dsc_5295_copia_265888_6fd0b1ac.jpg
This had no equivalent in the Fiat range and was actually sold by Fiat rebadged outside of Spain.
In Spain, though the 131 was nowhere near as popular as the 124.
I have a beautiful little 1:64-scale SEAT 131 wagon, made by Pilen in Spain in the ’70s or ’80s. We got the full-size version here in the US, as the Fiat Brava wagon.
Seat built quite a few of their version of the Fiat 124Sport Coupe. There are still a few hundred running around, prized by collectors. As they were built into the late 70s, there’s quite a supply of sheet metal still available in Spain for those cars.
True, I found 2-3 for sale while looking for regular 124/1430s. They seem to go for around 20-30k €
I hate white cars but I really like the SEAT and I would just cover the white with some cool racing livery and have a great time driving it.
SEAT please. That Chrysler, in all its guises, was the epitome of 1970s boredom.
I want that SEAT just for the Cibie’s alone. But yeah, I’d be tempted to look it up if it were local. And way more local than it is now.
Funnily enough both have Soviet connections in a way. The Seat/Fiat with the VAZ 2102 and the Simca 1307 being used as a reference during the Moskvitch Aleko development.
Definitely the “Catorce Treinta”, immensely popular here. This one has been modified (booo) but fairly tastefully (yay) a bit in the mould of the Ddauto 124s.
https://garajesiberia.es/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/DDAUTO-AUTOPISTA.jpg
The Chrysler… well wasn’t terribly popular back then and isn’t very interesting either.
By the way the Chrysler is a pre-facelift model, meaning it has a 4 speed gearbox. The 5 speed wasn’t introduced until the 1980 facelift.
My ass was made for this SEAT!