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Which Stickshift Wagon Would You Support? 2003 Subaru Outback vs 2003 Toyota Matrix

Sbsd 10 9 2025
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If you’re looking for a cheap, reliable car, choosing one with a manual transmission usually eliminates a lot of potential headaches. Automatics need care and feeding to keep them healthy, and you can never tell how well someone took care of one. With a manual, as long as it goes into all the gears and the clutch doesn’t slip, there’s not a whole lot that can go wrong. But convincing someone who isn’t a car person to choose a stickshift car is often an uphill battle. Nevertheless, we’re going to take a look at a couple of user-friendly manuals today that might fit the bill.

Yesterday was all about seating capacity, with two seven-passenger vehicles battling it out. I couldn’t tell from the comments how this one was going to go, but in the end, the Kia Sedona won by a pretty sizeable margin, despite having some confusion over its title status.

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I think that’s the right answer. The first-generation Chrysler Pacifica is a neat car, but if someone needs capacity for cheap, it’s hard to recommend anything other than a good basic minivan. It’ll do everything you need it to, and shouldn’t cause you much trouble along the way.

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Only once in all my years of friends coming to me for car advice have I convinced someone to buy a stickshift car instead of an automatic. The car was a Ford Escort wagon, and it served them well for a good long while. Many other friends have chosen cheap cars with automatics, because they either couldn’t or wouldn’t drive a manual, and without fail, the component that gave them problems was the transmission. Manuals are just more durable, and if you don’t have a lot to spend, you don’t have a lot to spend on repairs. So why not eliminate that particular failure point? Today we’re going to look at two wagons that are common, practical, known to be pretty reliable, and have three pedals on the floor. Let’s check them out.

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2003 Subaru Outback – $2,495

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.5-liter DOHC flat 4, five-speed manual, AWD

Location: Gladstone, OR

Odometer reading: 194,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Here it is, the unofficial official car of Portland, Oregon. They’re as common as Labradors, craft beers, and fledgling bands. Walk down the side streets of southeast Portland and, among all the old Crafstmans, you’ll see an Outback in roughly every third driveway, often parked next to a Toyota Prius. What you won’t find, however, are a lot of manual transmissions; like most cars in the past thirty years or so, if you wanted an Outback with a stick, you had to specifically seek it out.

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The Outback is, of course, powered by Subaru’s trademark flat-four, a generally stout engine with the unfortunate habit of springing leaks from its head gaskets. It powers all four wheels all the time through a five-speed manual transmission. This one is approaching 200,000 miles, which probably means the head gaskets have already been replaced once. It’s being sold by a dealer, so don’t expect any maintenance records. Check for leaks on the underside of the heads, and make sure there’s no water in the oil, before signing any papers.

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It looks nice inside; someone obviously took care of this car, and didn’t trash it. Even the back cargo area, where the dogs ride, looks good. The ad lists a whole bunch of options on the inside, but of course, since it’s a dealership,it  doesn’t actually say how many of them still work. As always, push all the buttons on the test drive.

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It’s remarkably clean outside, and it’s one of Subaru’s better color combinations. I personally prefer the dark green, but this pale green is nice too. It has the requisite Yakima bike rack already installed on the roof rails, so you’re good to go there. I have to think, as much of a demand for these cars as there is in the Pacific Northwest, that the only reason it’s so cheap is that it’s a manual.

2003 Toyota Matrix – $2,400

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Engine/drivetrain: 1.8-liter DOHC inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Portland, OR

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Odometer reading: 228,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives great

Some cars just inspire owners to keep them forever and ever. The Toyota Corolla, in its wagon form, seemed to be such a car. I remember more than one regular customer at the garage I worked at in Saint Paul bringing in a Corolla wagon they had bought new, and now had a ton of miles on it. When it finally did wear out, they replaced it with another Corolla wagon. I can only imagine the dismay those loyal owners felt during those couple of years after the Corolla wagon was discontinued, but before the introduction of the Matrix.

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The Matrix is, in fact, a Corolla wagon; the official name is Toyota Corolla Matrix. It’s part of the “tall wagon” class of cars that became popular in the early 2000s, not quite a crossover, but significantly taller than a typical station wagon. It’s powered by Toyota’s 1.8-liter 1ZZ-FE four-cylinder, which is a reliable engine, but has a tendency to burn oil after a while. This one has reached well over 200,000 miles, which means someone was careful about keeping the oil level topped up; a new owner will have to do the same. It does run and drive well, though.

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It looks good inside, with very little wear to show for its high mileage. The tree-shaped air freshener hanging from the mirror is a potential bad sign, though. Those things never actually remove funky odors from cars; they just add their own chemical weirdness to whatever melange is there already. Give it a good sniff and make sure it’s something you can live with.

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It’s pretty clean outside, but there’s a little wrinkle in the left front fender, and some fake plastic vents (or something) stuck on both sides. I’ll never understand the appeal of those things. But at least they just stick on; a plastic scraper and some Goo-Gone will take care of them.

Stickshift cars are a hard sell among the general population; that’s why they’re disappearing. But if you’re willing to drive one, you’ll be rewarded with not only a better driving experience, but better reliability, and often a cheaper price of entry. If you had a friend looking for a good inexpensive car, which one of these would you try to talk them into?

 

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AircooleDrew
AircooleDrew
5 hours ago

I want that outback. I’ve owned several manual Subarus of that vintage, this one is spotless. Even if it needs HG’s, it’s an easy job and will insure another 100k miles out of that engine.

If it wasn’t so damn far away from me, I would likely buy it right now. Not even kidding. I love that gen, and they’ve all rusted to nothing around here in the midwest.

AircooleDrew
AircooleDrew
5 hours ago
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Last edited 4 hours ago by AircooleDrew
Ford Friday
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Ford Friday
5 hours ago

I have a 2004 Legacy with a 5 Speed (same drivetrain as the Outback) it has 344,000 miles on it and I know the last 100k were hard on it. The engine is finally getting retired because I took it apart to do head gaskets and found 4 leaking valves, 2 pistons with side to side play within the cylinder, and basically no scoring on those cylinders. It still ran great with all of those issues. The only reason I took it apart was because of the oil leaking from the head gaskets.

Long story short, they’re good cars.

Last edited 5 hours ago by Ford Friday
Gurpgork
Gurpgork
5 hours ago
Reply to  Ford Friday

I wish mine were a manual, but I love the damned thing. This little miniature AMC Eagle Wagon with a itty-bitty Piper Cub motor in it is pretty damn fun off-road with A/Ts and a lift.

Gurpgork
Gurpgork
5 hours ago

The correct answer is always BH Outback.

James McHenry
James McHenry
5 hours ago

This is very tough, but I think it’s the Subaru. Just a little bigger, a little more posh, and AWD; the perfect winter beater/when I need to carry something big car. Had the Matrix been the Celica-engined XRS, it’d have flipped the tables. Also, the Subie continues my garage’s boxer theme.

CuppaJoe
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CuppaJoe
5 hours ago

Wow! That subie is shockingly nice! I’m usually on Team Toyota, but I almost want to go spend actual real dollars to have that manual outback.

Number One Dad
Number One Dad
5 hours ago

Here it is, the unofficial official car of Portland, Oregon.

I’m from northern Michigan, and last time I went up I borrowed my parents’ Outback to take to dinner. When my wife and I came out it took us a minute because we couldn’t remember which of the four white Outbacks in the parking lot we’d arrived in.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
6 hours ago

The Subaru is in great shape, and I want to pick it, but…
Toyo-duh.

Beasy Mist
Beasy Mist
6 hours ago

My sister’s Vibe needed to be pried out of her hands. It just never needed anything. I think the only unscheduled service was one wheel bearing and when she she-hulked the driver’s door handle off one day.

Kevin Rhodes
Kevin Rhodes
6 hours ago

No jacked-up Lesbian Love Wagons for me, send me to the Matrix instead. I need AWD like I need a couple of ex-wives, and this Subaru is ready to blow up for the second time.

Last edited 6 hours ago by Kevin Rhodes
Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
5 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

Hey, my cousin has one of these and she’s married to a guy.

EastbayLoc
EastbayLoc
6 hours ago

Had to go Subie today. I know those years of Outbacks had some issues but they seemed to occur between 60-80k so either someone has sorted it out or it never had any. I like the color, the AWD and the bike rack installed is a nice touch. Someone definitely took care of this car.

The Matrix is nice and generally really reliable. The do start to burn a little oil later in life. I don’t love the color and the little fender ripple but overall for $2400 and a stick, it’s pretty good. It just gets beat by a more useful and better looking Subaru that I could definitely use up in the mountains this winter.

KYFire
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KYFire
6 hours ago

It’s a tough choice but I’m picking the Red Pill. The Matrix will probably provide the nice comfortable run around car for a long time. Keeping me oblivious to all the harshness of the the automotive world. But sometimes you have to reach for adventure and that Outback is in amazing condition to be ready for that even if it means a little pain along the way.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
6 hours ago

The Matrix will last until the sun burns out, but that Outback is clean as hell and I love the Outback/Legacy too much to refuse them.

Jonah B.
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Jonah B.
6 hours ago

My wife has a Matrix – she had its sibling the Pontiac Vibe before that. They’re great, highly functional cars. They’re also light and tossable in the curves – slow car fast and all that.

Both were built in the GM/Toyota collab NUMMI plant in Fremont CA which is now a Tesla factory.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
6 hours ago
Reply to  Jonah B.

My sister in law did the same. 03 Vibe that was replaced by an 05 Matrix. Vibe got taken out by an accident at over 200k, and the matrix is at 190k and still going strong

Jonah B.
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Jonah B.
5 hours ago
Reply to  Brandon Forbes

Traveling in Central America this winter, we saw so many Vibes I thought it would make a good side business to buy them up in the US – e.g. ones that don’t pass smog anymore or something – and ship them down there to resell.

Pit-Smoked Clutch
Pit-Smoked Clutch
6 hours ago

The engine in that matrix is likely to live MUCH longer than the one in the outback, but Toyota made the 5 speed in that car by taking the 6 speed the XRS got, removing a gear, and filling the void with plastic parts that are an Achilles’s heel – I think there may be plastic bearing carriers as well.

The 2ZZ/6-speed ones are the ones known for pegging the odometer out at 299,999 miles, but in 300k you’ll pay enough extra for premium fuel to cover several transmission replacements.

It’s worth it. I have one.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
6 hours ago

I’m here for the Scooby-Doo

Bob Boxbody
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Bob Boxbody
6 hours ago

Outbacks are fine, but I’ve always liked the Matrix and thought I would have one at one point. I think I would worry about reliability more in a high-mileage Subaru also, so I voted for the Toyota.

Luxobarge
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Luxobarge
6 hours ago

I’m an Outback fan, but the Matrix is a super-solid car–the Toyota half-sibling to the unkillable Pontiac Vibe. If it’s been cared for at all, this Matrix has another 80,000 miles left in it.

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
6 hours ago

Matrix for me, but then I own a 2003 XRS with the 2ZZ engine, far more fun than this pedestrian one.
Yes, I’ve changed the transmission and suspension, as I had a bit of a ride down an Oregon side road that was more of a high-voltage-line maintenance road.
Thinking about painting or wrapping mine, as it sits in the sun every day. That or sink $40K into a car I’ll barely use.

Need to add the disclaimer that the odometer will stop at 299,999 (A Toyota issue). Mine is at 240K.

That one shines way better than mine. Gets washed once a day, in Portland.

Last edited 6 hours ago by Joke #119!
Angry Bob
Angry Bob
6 hours ago

The Subaru is the car I should have instead of a 25 year old BMW. Although I prefer the Impreza, the Outback is more practical.

Drew
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Drew
6 hours ago

I came into this thinking I’d prefer the Toyota because I see fewer of them. But that Outback is cleaner. And I like the color better.

4jim
4jim
6 hours ago

Green manual AWD wagon! Done and I mean Done.

It's Pronounced Porch-ah
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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
6 hours ago

That Outback is clean, and I like it in theory better than the Matrix, so that is how I voted today. I get why they sold well and why they still have a following, its a good looking car that offers a LOT of practicality, but in the midwest between headgaskets and catastrophic rust, I have never been willing to shop an Outback.

Timbales
Timbales
6 hours ago

I’m voting Matrix and will admit to my bias. I own two for a total of 13 years, both FWD XR trim with manual transmissions. I enjoyed driving them, though I freely admit they were not ‘performance’ vehicles.

In terms of utility, you cannot beat the hard plastic cargo floor and rear seat backs and the track system for tie-downs. Plus, there was the added utility of the front passenger seat that folded almost flat forward. Carrying long items with a closed hatch was never an issue.

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
6 hours ago
Reply to  Timbales

Carrying long items with a closed hatch was never an issue.

I’ve routinely carried boxes of 8ft-long fluorescent tubes from Home Depot or to the City Dangerous Trash place.
I put a 6ft high wine refrigerator from an “excess inventory” store. Closed the door hatch, but needed to open the window hatch. And then, scrunched all the way forward, drove home, working the stick for about 10 miles.
Even if I buy a replacement, I might keep it.

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
7 hours ago

Those outbacks can last FOREVER. My dad’s wife had two of that generation in that exact color. She had one as a daily driver, and I think that by the time she couldn’t drive anymore, it was well over 300K on the original engine and transmission. She had a low-mileage one in the other garage (80K or so?) as a backup because she liked the car so much and you couldn’t get them anymore. But she was a person who did ALL THE MAINTENANCE on time. Meticulous. Dad wasn’t allowed to drive her cars because he was too aggressive of a driver. Plus her insurance would have skyrocketed if she had because Dad has a history and accidents and tickets.

Anyway, great cars.

76Eldorado
76Eldorado
7 hours ago

I know it is a small sample size but I know two people that had manuel Matrix and both blew up the transmissions and both in the end wished they took the blue pill.

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