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Why Canada Is Pissed At Jeep’s Parent Company Stellantis

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Every day brings us closer to the movie Canadian Bacon becoming a reality. While we may never see a fighting war with Canada, there’s a bit of an economic showdown starting, and there’s a lot of posturing. The current target? Stellantis.

I intended to start yesterday’s Morning Dump with the news that Stellantis was going to make a big investment in the United States, but got sidetracked by another story. That investment is both good news for America and sensible for the company, which hadn’t placed enough importance on the market.

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Something has to give, though, and the give seems to be coming from Canada, which is seeing Jeep Compass production move to Illinois. Canadian politicians are extremely mad. You know who is maybe going to be less angry at Stellantis soon? Dealers, allegedly.

I’ve been waiting for the moment when private credit would appear in the Dump, and it seems the moment has come. GM made a deal to sell $2 billion in loans to private credit.

Stellantis Makes A Big Bet On America

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Photo: Stellantis

Some of the announcements made in the last few months by companies about expanding in the United States felt like repackaging planned commitments in order to placate the President. What Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram, Vernors Ginger Ale, Leapmotor, and Alfa Romeo parent company Stellantis announced this week is more than that.

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The $13 billion expansion includes some plans likely considered before the last election, but a lot of this is new. There’s the midsize truck that’s going to be built in Toledo, a large SUV to be built in Warren that’s likely to be Wagoneer-based (A big Chrysler? A new Dodge?), and some other stuff as well.

“This investment in the U.S. – the single largest in the Company’s history – will drive our growth, strengthen our manufacturing footprint and bring more American jobs to the states we call home,” said Antonio Filosa, Stellantis CEO and North America COO. “As we begin our next 100 years, we are putting the customer at the center of our strategy, expanding our vehicle offerings and giving them the freedom to choose the products they want and love.”

“Accelerating growth in the U.S. has been a top priority since my first day. Success in America is not just good for Stellantis in the U.S. — it makes us stronger everywhere,” Filosa said.

Because my biggest complaint was that Stellantis made all its money in the United States and then invested little of it back here, this about-face by the new leadership is welcome news.

Unless you’re in Canada.

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‘I’m Not Going To Give Them A Penny,’ Ontario Premier Doug Ford Is Big Mad

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Photo credit: Stellantis

North America’s automotive industry is, or was, a highly interconnected machine. This goes back decades, though it really ramped up after the North American Free Trade Agreement and, more recently, with the USMCA in President Trump’s first term.

If you’re a carmaker, this has (or had) many benefits. You could build cars in certain places where labor was cheap or energy was abundant. If the facts on the ground didn’t make a good business case, there was always some form of tax break to be had.

Those tax breaks are now at issue because Jeep had initially planned to build the new Jeep Compass in Brampton, Ontario, Canada. Now it’s going to be in Illinois.

There’s a lot going on here. For one, it was recently leaked that U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick suggested Canada should take a “U.S.-first, Canada-second” policy when it comes to carmaking. The Canadians do not love this.

The timing of this announcement from Stellantis has set off a lot of anger in Canada. This story from The Toronto Star is just full of mad elected officials, including Ontario’s Premier Doug Ford:

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The premier said the auto giant told him 1,500 of the 3,000 Brampton jobs in jeopardy could move to Windsor where Stellantis is building an EV factory.

But Ford, who along with Ottawa has committed billions in production tax credits to Stellantis, warned the company that it needs to hold up its end of the deal.

“I’m not going to give them a penny because it was tied in to making sure Windsor and Brampton keep going. And we haven’t given them a penny for Brampton yet,” he said, noting he will be meeting privately with Prime Minister Mark Carney on Thursday in Toronto.

“We gave about $55 million out of the couple billion that the feds and I and the companies agreed.”

The current Prime Minister, Mark Carney, got elected partially because everyone was angry with the United States for implying Canada should become the 51st state. So I’m sure this will all go nicely and calmly for everyone involved.

Stellantis Says It’s Being Less ‘Disrespectful’ Toward Suppliers

Stellantis Factory Assembly
Photo: Stellantis

The outgoing Stellantis administration did a great job of squeezing suppliers, adding them to the list of people who kinda hated them. The company has been trying to mend fences, and now you can add suppliers to this list.

Per Crains Detroit Business:

Marvin Washington, vice president of purchasing for the automaker, said Oct. 15 that the company is working to win back the trust of its supply base.

“I can honestly say that we’ve lost over the last year or so some of the trust of the suppliers, and we’re building it back up,” Washington said. “Fourth quarter last year, we had a huge cut in volumes without notice to the supply base, and it’s disrespectful to the supply base to make a move like that, because our suppliers have investment and forecasts and expenses and shocks to their system. It hurts their stock price. It’s damaging to them.”

You gotta start somewhere.

GM Sold $2 Billion In Loans To Private Credit

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When GM’s finance arm, General Motors Financial, wants to make a bunch of loans, it usually borrows the money via the public bond market. While that’s still usually what happens, GM did something a little different recently. It used private credit.

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If you’re not familiar, private credit is sort of exactly what it sounds like. Instead of going to the public markets for money, you get it from private investors. There are pros to this (and some big cons).

Why did GM suddenly decide to take some of these “prime” loans and sell them this way? This Bloomberg report suggests some reasons:

It’s unusual for major auto lenders like GM to privately sell large pools of loans directly to investors, according to market participants. But selling debt directly can be faster than using public securities, and deals like GM’s can help demonstrate to ratings firms that companies have multiple avenues for raising money, a sign of a stronger and more creditworthy borrower.

GM’s issuance of asset backed securities has waned this year. So far it has sold $5 billion of ABS backed by auto loans, data compiled by Bloomberg shows, after selling at least $8 billion of the bonds annually for each of the last five years. With US holidays in late November and December, there are a dwindling number of days for it to sell more debt. The company’s vehicle for selling bonds backed by subprime auto loans, known as AmeriCredit Automobile Receivables Trust, hasn’t completed any deals so far this year, according to Bloomberg data.

Despite private credit’s rapid growth in recent years, some on Wall Street have been sounding the alarm that the opaque nature of this “shadow” lending market could be hiding underappreciated risks.

Remember yesterday when JPMorgan boss Jamie Dimon complained about cockroaches? It’s probably not these specific loans he was talking about, but the showdown between traditional lenders and alternative ones is starting to get serious.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

As far as musical operations named after Graham Greene stories go, England Made Me by Black Box Recorder has to be up there (though I’m partial to Third Man Records). Enjoy the strange “Child Psychology” on this fine Thursday.

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The Big Question

What’s your favorite Canadian car?

Top graphic images: Stellantis; Gramercy Pictures

 

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Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
2 days ago

Favorite Canadian car is the Mercury pickup. Just because it was so odd seeing the name Mercury on a pickup, at least to these American eyes.

Chevy Cruze Gang
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Chevy Cruze Gang
2 days ago

Favorite Canadian car would have to be the Mercury Grand Marquis, specifically the two 89’s that I’ve owned. Apparently they were both built in St. Thomas Ontario and to this day the second one was still the most reliable and nicest car I’ve ever owned. Close second goes to my 86 F150, I don’t know if all the Bullnose era trucks were built in Canada but mine was, it even had some paperwork in the glovebox when I bought it detailing how it was shipped down from Canada by rail which I thought was a really neat find.

Long Tine Spork
Long Tine Spork
2 days ago

I for one am glad that Stellantis hasn’t completely abandoned the legacy of Carlos Tavares.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
3 days ago

“What’s your favorite Canadian car?”

If we are talking about cars that we can buy new, then it would probably be the Dodge Charger Daytona which apparently is built in the Windsor Ontario plant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Assembly

If we are talking about cars built in Canada at any point in history… I’ll have to think about that. Maybe the Toyota Matrix would be my pick.

Oh wait… the first gen Volvo V70 was built in Canada… so that’s my pick

Last edited 3 days ago by Manwich Sandwich
Ben Novak
Ben Novak
3 days ago

Ooh, “Canadian Bacon”! Something to watch on Tubi tonight.
Is it the best movie ever made about U.S.-Canada relations? You be the judge!

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3 days ago

Stellantis seems to be pivoting from pissing off absolutely everybody to only pissing off some parties while appeasing others. This is likely a positive development but I’m interested to see how it unfolds.

Aiden Stefanson
Aiden Stefanson
3 days ago

My favorite Canadian car is the Asüna Sunrunner. A short lived, but fun name for GMs import business on the 90s.

David Smith
David Smith
3 days ago

I have two Canadian vehicles. An ’04 Odyssee and an ’09 Matrix and I like them both.

Geo Metro Mike
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Geo Metro Mike
3 days ago

The Geo Metro of course!

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
3 days ago

the single largest in the Company’s history

I mean, “Stellantis” has only been around for about 4 years, so…

Thomas Metcalf
Thomas Metcalf
3 days ago

I love how Stellantis ignored the Upper Peninsula in their little infographic.

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
3 days ago
Reply to  Thomas Metcalf

It’s basically Wisconsin, anyway.

William Domer
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William Domer
3 days ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

We call it Occupied Wisconsin. See a great book called How the States Got Their Shapes.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
3 days ago

The only part of Canadian Bacon I remember is, “God damned Canadians. I’m going to make them pronounce their O’s if it’s the last thing I ever do!”

Tbird
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Tbird
3 days ago

“Blame Canada, Blame Canada.”

Last edited 3 days ago by Tbird
Horizontally Opposed
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Horizontally Opposed
3 days ago

Doug Ford being mad at Stellantis: brand rivalry never dies.

Rhymes With Bronco
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Rhymes With Bronco
3 days ago

I don’t know what other cars are made in Canada, but it’s safe to say that the Jeep Compass is not my favorite.

Riverr
Riverr
3 days ago

I don’t wish either to succeed. Canada was and still is a awful colonialist experiment just like the United States, built upon the genocide, theft and displacement of First Nations.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
3 days ago
Reply to  Riverr

So you want the US and Canada to to fail? What would you propose in their place?

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
3 days ago

Favorite Canadian car I’ve personally owned: 1982 Volvo 244DL, built in Nova Scotia.

Favorite Canadian car I want to own: Mercury Econoline pickup.

Ignatius J. Reilly
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Ignatius J. Reilly
3 days ago

“This investment in the U.S. – the single largest in the Company’s history – will drive our growth, strengthen our manufacturing footprint and bring more American jobs to the states we call home,” said Antonio Filosa, Stellantis CEO and North America COO

Says the Italian/Brazilian that would likely be disappeared by Trump’s ICE Gestapo if he were walking down the street. I don’t think Stellantis has any hopes of a turnaround under the refreshed management.

Pappa P
Pappa P
3 days ago

Favorite Canadian car: Ford GT

When Stellantis hits it’s next bankruptcy in a couple years, I’m pretty sure we will celebrate it as a national holiday in Canada.
We’ll use the money we would have spent bailing them out to celebrate their demise.

We’ve had tariffs against Chinese cars in place that have been protecting the US auto industry in our country. It’s officially time for those to end.

Lucas K
Lucas K
2 days ago
Reply to  Pappa P

It would be pretty ironic if Trump’s policies killed the Canadian car industry leading our government to open up our market to European and Asian manufacturers. If we’ve got no horses in the race there’s no point in protecting the market anymore.

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
3 days ago

The headline “Ford mad at Stellantis” would be accurate, but not exactly what most would expect.

Nutlick is such a moron. “Hey Canada, prioritize the step children over your own, okay? Yeah, that would be great”. Dumbass.

Scott
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Scott
3 days ago

Every day brings us closer to the movie Canadian Bacon becoming a reality.”

I’ve not seen Canadian Bacon AFAICR, but I have seen Idiocracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy and every minute that I’m alive I’m reminded that that’s the world we now inhabit.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
3 days ago
Reply to  Scott

Been years since I’ve seen Canadian Bacon but it was a good flick.

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
3 days ago

What’s your favorite Canadian car?

Alfa Romeo Montreal, of course. (Not my fault you didn’t define “Canadian car”).

William Domer
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William Domer
3 days ago

Can I get a Renault or Citroen there? If so they are my favorite cars from Canada

Rebadged Asüna Sunrunner
Rebadged Asüna Sunrunner
3 days ago

Favorite Canadian car? I guess that’d have to be my Geo Tracker! Built in Canada, sold in Canada, and for all I know has only left the country twice (under my ownership, at least)

Unimaginative Username
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Unimaginative Username
3 days ago

I drive a Canadian GMC – only reason I know is because the water temp is measured in degrees Celsius.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
3 days ago

Best Canadian car? Pontiac Acadian. They just don’t make them like that anymore.

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