Happy Friday, Autopians! Today, I decided that if we’re throwing out the price limit on Fridays, we might as well break the imaginary bank and just go for it. So both of today’s choices are from that bastion of all things cool and unaffordable, Hemmings. It’s not the same brown phone-book-sized tome that we all loved to leaf through at B. Dalton’s while Mom shopped for the latest Dean Koontz thriller (that wasn’t just me, right?), but in digital form, it’s still a storehouse of wonders. And there’s another book tie-in to today’s choices that I’ll get to in a minute. But first, let’s see who won our hatchback battle:
And there you have it. Always bet on red velour. That little Datsun would be a fun cruiser, if only for all the “Wow, I haven’t seen one of those since…” comments.
When I was a kid, the only things I ever asked to spend money on were model cars, and books. (Actually, not much has changed.) My universe revolved around the Scholastic Book Fair at school, and the release of the new MPC and AMT model kits for the year, usually coinciding with the autumn release of the actual cars. Five bucks either way, and I was a happy camper. Naturally, I gravitated towards books about cars, but for kids, those are few and far between. The Phantom Tollbooth is a road-trip story, but there isn’t much about the actual car in it. And Encyclopedia Brown, Fudge, and Beezus and Ramona all walked everywhere.
So when I found book number seventeen in the “Choose Your Own Adventure” series, The Race Forever, I devoured it. I learned how to win both races, and how to get killed, in each of the four cars, and I researched the hell out of the cars. (In the original, it’s a Lancia Stratos and a Saab 900 Turbo for the speed race; apparently those were changed to more modern rally cars for the re-issue.) I still have my orignal copy of it, and a few years ago I decieded to pay tribute to the book by building radio controlled models of the two off-roaders.
And today, we’re going to take a look at those two vehicles. Except that you can actually get in these and drive off on a grueling multi-day off-road adventure. Just watch out for puff adders and river ferry saboteurs.
1983 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 – $55,000
Engine/drivetrain: 4.2 liter inline 6, 4 speed manual, part-time 4WD
Location: Savannah, GA
Odometer reading: 10,900 miles (since restoration, total mileage unknown)
Runs/drives? I should hope so, for that price
Like so many other small 4WD vehicles, the Land Cruiser can trace its roots back to the good old Jeep. Toyota reverse-engineered a captured Jeep, and then, as they are still known for doing, improved upon it. They may not always be innovative, but they keep ironing out kinks until the resulting vehicle is as good as it can be.
The FJ40 iteration of Toyota’s famous off-roader is still, after all these years, the mental image most people see when you say “Land Cruiser.” It’s instantly recognizable, and still looks good. And with a long history of reliable service all around the world, it’s not just another pretty face.
This Land Cruiser has been restored, and it’s drop-dead gorgeous. It’s only done 10,000 miles in the past eleven years since being restored, but I’d like to think it covered a couple hundred thousand before that, and in some harsh environments. Of course, we get none of its prior history, but if these four wheels could talk, I’d love to hear the stories they’d tell.
The trouble with this truck for someone like me is that it’s literally too good for me. I would want to use it as intended, and ruin all that pretty restoration work. This Land Cruiser is a great starting point, but it needs some dents and scrapes and wear and tear to make it truly perfect. There’s a reason I write a feature called “Shitbox Showdown.”
1973 Land Rover Series III 109 – $69,998
Engine/drivetrain: 2.25 liter inline 4 (assuming it’s stock), 4 speed manual, part-time 4WD
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Odometer reading: unknown
Runs/drives? I assume
The Land Rover was designed to be a cross between a small truck and a tractor, to help get Britain back on its feet after World War II and keep Rover afloat. The original Land Rovers had aluminum alloy body panels to save on steel, and were all painted various shades of green to use up surplus military paint. The alloy stuck around, but luckily the color palette expanded.
This restored Land Rover is about as far from farm work as you can get, but all the capability is still there. It has a gorgeous wood-trimmed interior, comfy-looking leather bucket seats, and assorted electronic bric-a-brac stuck in the dash, but you can still connect a winch or a water pump or what-have-you to the power take-off in the back and get some actual work done.
Not that a Land Rover this clean will ever see anything more grueling than a Starbucks parking lot, but again, I like to think it got nice and dirty in its previous life. There’s a maddening lack of information in the ad, and not even any underhood photos, so I can’t be sure if it’s still powered by the original 4 cylinder or something more potent, and if it is the original engine, whether it’s petrol or diesel. You could probably call the dealership and get more info, but then you’d have to talk to the dealership.
I do love the details of these old Land Rovers. The odd set-back grille, the slide-open windows, the surprisingly elegant curve of the door handle cutouts. It’s a handsome machine. But again, it would look better beat-up.
So, to help us make this choice, I propose this scenario: whichever truck you choose, you have to take it on a grueling multi-day off-road rally. (Not in Africa; the logistics are a nightmare.) You’ll bang it up, get it stuck, sleep in it, and generally use it as intended. The race director is holding two sets of keys; which one do you take?
As much as I love The Toyota Land Cruiser; and I really love the Land Cruiser; I have just always loved those old Land Rovers, I just love the way they look, so I vote Land Rover, and feel like an asshole. Looking at the votes though, I should have gone Land Cruiser.
My answer is in my username…
I would go for the Land Rover, but that price gives me pause. The Toyota has more grunt, a shorter wheelbase for when the going gets real bad, and it’s cheaper. Plus it’s a Toyota, and a simple one at that, so maintenance will be infrequent and relatively affordable, which is something that can’t be said for a lot of classic cars.
I got to experience both of these in HS back in the ‘80s. The Rover was a year-older party buddy’s, and we took it up a few logging roads-even did some power lines with the local 4wd club. Wasn’t cushy, but DAMN was it capable! With the narrow stockish tires it pissed of the local Chevy & Ford guys no end. It could go laterally along inclines which would have me about pissing myself sure we were gonna tumble. Nope: just ground on ahead.
The FJ belonged to a kid who moved from AZ to SW Va and was experiencing serious culture shock. As I was a transplant myself, we hung out. He was used to running hard in the desert, and we had some mishaps here in the woods & mud because he couldn’t seem to slow down much.
I can’t give much in the way of driving impressions, tho: these were party buddies and I was always fried. I was more comfortable in the Rover because it was so agricultural you didn’t try to carve corners or any such nonsense. The FJ was kinda a glorified Jeep-with-bikini-top & chrome wheels of the ‘80s: it invited shenanigans.
So I voted for the Rover
Toyota is the best. Always better than any land rover LOL
For Land Rover Bill!
Land Rover because I have wanted one for 50 years. I know it’s less reliable than a Toyota but they are infinitely repairable with minimal tools and mostly don’t rust. Plus the tropical roof keeps them cooler.
Land Cruiser, obviously. Much better built, cheaper, and not a pig in a poke the way the Rover is in this ad. I’ve always thought the Cruiser was the better vehicle anyway—I have a lot of respect for durable engineering, which the Cruiser has and the Rover just doesn’t.
I…. would rather be in that Starbucks parking lot than any rally, but I would still take the Land Cruiser for having to do work. The Land Rover is gorgeous and I much appreciate it. But I’m vaguely playing along to hypotheticals for vehicles I will never own.
For the money neither are a trigger tripper. But would be great far a wealthy poser…..
Need to add a couple of additional voting buttons to these:
None of the above, for vehicles like this that are absurdly overpriced.
Both, for vehicles that are such good bargains that they bring our our inner DT.
Didn’t need to read the comparo. Never vote anything Land / Range / Whatever Rover.
Oh man, I don’t know how many times I read “The Race Forever” CYOA book when I was a kid! I imagine that book is what lead me to buying a Saab 900 years ago.
For these two, I think I’ll go with the Toyota. Provided you don’t take a wrong turn and get killed by a rhino, it should lead you to finding a gold vein and allowing you to fund your own rally series.
I would take either, but the Land Rover is more practical and will alway draw more interests as well. The tropical roof is a bonus.
$55-70k ain’t what it used to be 🙁
For that kind of money you (I think) can actually GO to Africa and live the life you are cosplaying with these things.
I love Land Rover Series vehicles. I also love Land Cruisers. I have a particular fondness for Series IIa and Series III LWB 5 door safari top Land Rovers. However, this one has been ruined with that retro dash, steering wheel and why oh why would you put a touch screen in something that is held together by rivets, rust and prayers. I went Toyota, only because it hasn’t been ruined.
I would take that FJ all day. I had a BJ42 1982 years ago ….loved that truck. Rust just took it away from me and I left it in Churchill, Manitoba. I miss it everyday.
Wow…both dream cars and I should be allowed neither as I would trail ride them and scratch and dent them. First month of buying both my TJ and 2020 Grand Cherokee I had them on trails (both new when bought)…while a bit more reckless with the TJ, I’ve still taken the GC places most people wouldn’t dare…
But if I can only have one, it would have to be the FJ…Toyota reliability will always win out for me!
Toyota Land Cruiser for me. It’s likely more enjoyable to drive with that I6.
This was really fun. Thank you. I had read through just living the idea of either of these machines when I got to the surprise twist ending. Had to go back again thinking about some multi day Enduro thing. That made the Toyota an easy win. Cubes. Durability (in operation as opposed to repairability). Working electrics with meaningful lights. Off road chops. All favor the Toyota.
I’d rather have my picture taken with the Rover though.
For anyone choosing the Land Rover for the cross country adventure, you may want to read up on some the opinions of a couple that did it.
The Toyota is probably the more reliable of the two, but the small size would make it a pain, even if it didn’t break down.
Between the two, I’d go with the Toyota,