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Does The World Have Too Many Automakers?

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First of all, Happy St. Patrick’s Day to all who celebrate. I will be making some colcannon, cabbage, and Irish chicken for dinner. If growing up in Houston taught me one thing, it’s that a rich life is full of cuisines and people from around the world. I feel the same about the automotive market, generally, although I do wonder if there are maybe a few too many car companies at the moment.

Have you seen a VinFast on the road? I’ve seen at least a couple of VinFasts, and seeing one always elicits a double-take. The Vietnamese automaker had grand plans for the United States, before shifting focus to India and Southeast Asia. You’d think that would mean the company would cancel its North Carolina factory. You’d be wrong. The Morning Dump is amused to report that the plant is still planned to open.

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Leapmotor is another carmaker that didn’t exist up until recently. It was founded as a Chinese company, although its JV is now mostly owned by Stellantis. According to its annual filling, it’s also profitable. Foxconn is a Taiwanese carmaker that desperately wants to be a carmaker, and, thanks to its Mitsubishi deal, it’s a little closer to getting there.

No one questions whether we need Audi, and the carmaker (which also owns Ducati and Lamborghini), though I do wonder if we need an EV-derivative A2.

VinFast Doubles Sales, Commits To Building Cars In North Carolina

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Photo: VinFast

VinFast is a Vietnamese automaker created by that country’s richest man, Pham Nhat Vuong , who is one of those serial investors that owns seemingly every kind of company (gold mines, oil wells, shipping or real estate). While the company started out making refashioned BMWs, it quickly jumped on the EV hype bandwagon and started making its own electric cars.

The company even started selling vehicles in the United States, although a combination of terrible reviews, the loss of the Inflation Reduction Act, and the projected downturn in the market have sent the company looking for other markets. Specifically, the company is focusing more on Southeast Asia and its own home market, where it sells most of its cars. For that reason, I sort of assumed its delayed North Carolina plant was dead-in-the-water.

While sales were up by a lot last year, Nikkei Asia reports that the company still lost money:

VinFast on Monday reported a $3.87 billion net loss for 2025, worsening by 26% from the year earlier on sales and other operating expenses.

The Nasdaq-listed car maker generated $3.59 billion in revenue last year, a 105% gain, it said in unaudited results. Cost of sales, its biggest expense, swelled to $5.13 billion, and the company took a $236 million impairment charge on a delayed factory in the U.S. state of North Carolina.

The Vietnamese company has plans to introduce a hybrid car, expand into other electric scooter markets, and resume construction of the U.S. plant in 2026 with an eye to starting operations in 2028, it said in a call with analysts.

That hybrid bit is interesting, as is the news that it isn’t actually abandoning North Carolina. Here’s Business North Carolina with a few more details:

Vietnamese electric-vehicle maker VinFast says it intends to resume construction of its planned North Carolina factory in Chatham County as early as next month, with an eye toward launching production there in 2028.

But the company has revised its ambitions, telling local officials that it expects employment in the 1,400-job range. That’s 81% lower than previous expectations of 7,500 jobs, reflecting a more sober outlook for EVs now than four years ago.

Presuming the factory starts assembling cars, it would remain a major North Carolina signature business-recruiting success, but not nearly the impact expected previously. State and local officials pledged topping $315 million over 32 years to VinFast when the project was announced in 2022. Payouts are contingent on the company investing $4 billion and creating 7,500 jobs.

Is the company going to be making EVs? Hybrids? I’m hoping it’s the little, cheap VinFast VF3. An American-built, sub-$20k two-door EV Suzuki Samurai-clone (if that price could ever survive) would be awesome. I don’t know if it would be successful, but it would be awesome.

Leapmotor Says They Turned A Profit Last Year

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Everyone’s favorite SNL comedian standing in front of a Leapmotor B10. Photo: Stellantis

Leapmotor, or Zhejiang Leapmotor Technology Co., is a Chinese carmaker that’s been focused on the most affordable end of the electric car market. Analogs tend to fail when it comes to Chinese brands, but it gives me Dacia vibes. It’s also closely aligned with Stellantis, which owns a portion of the automaker, and the majority of the Stellantis-Leapmotor JV.

The carmaker turned its first annual profit on the backs of strong sales, and it looks like that momentum is going to carry into more projects with Stellantis. The company is already expanding in Europe thanks to underutilized Stellantis factories, including one in Poland. According to Bloomberg, there’s a lot more in the works:

Leapmotor also said it is “actively exploring” cooperations on cars and components with the Franco-American-Italian carmaker, according to a Monday filing, noting that some projects had already entered “advanced negotiation stages.”

Closer collaboration will offer Leapmotor more global opportunities while also helping Stellantis save on development spending and provide a shortcut to better competition with China’s BYD Co. and SAIC Motor Corp.’s MG in Europe, as well as local rivals including Volkswagen AG and Renault SA.

The pact will help Leapmotor navigate European regulations and potential tariff exemptions. Stellantis possesses “better intelligence access” and “strong expertise”, Chief Financial Officer Li Tengfei said on an earnings call, confirming an earlier report by Bloomberg News.

“We believe that localization is the definite direction for global expansion of Chinese EV companies,” said Li.

Localization used to be how American companies described what they were doing in China, and now it’s the other way around.

Foxconn Takes A Stake In Mitsubishi Electric

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Photo credit: Foxconn

Taiwan’s Hon Hai Precision Industry, better known as Foxconn, really wants to make cars. So much so that it attempted to grab Nissan on the cheap, which led the Japanese business community and government to encourage Honda to get in there first. In all that drama, it turns out that maybe Honda was more interested in Mitsubishi than Nissan.

The joke is on everyone, because now Foxconn has just a little bit more of Mitsubishi than it did before, as Nikkei Asia reports:

The Japanese company is finalizing details, but the plan is to sell a 50% stake in Mitsubishi Electric Mobility, and jointly operate the business. The final agreement should be agreed by May.

Mitsubishi Electric had considered withdrawing from the automotive parts business before opting for a joint operation with Foxconn.

Mitsubishi Electric Mobility’s main business is alternators and starters, so this feels like it’s just part of a larger play to be in the industry and have some control of the supply chain.

This is nicely timed with an editorial in Automotive News from Hans Greimel that points out some hard truths about Honda’s attempt to strong arm Nissan into a deal:

Barely a year ago, Honda CEO Toshihiro Mibe sermonized Nissan’s embattled management about the need for “quick and decisive, painful decision-making.”

Mibe’s doubts about Nissan’s ability to turn itself around emboldened his all-or-nothing bid for Nissan’s full takeover. It also derailed the merger of equals both carmakers originally envisioned.

Now, as Honda tumbles into its own money pit, Nissan seems to have the last laugh.

It’s a little early to call a victor, but it’s a fair point. Last year, I blamed Nissan’s hubris for not taking a subsidiary role to Honda. Maybe Nissan saw what I didn’t see.

Audi’s Bringing Back The A2, But It’s Not The One You Want

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Photo: Audi

Antti called the new Audi A2 e-tron the “TRON of Audis.” That’s a pop cultural way of saying it’s a sequel that’ll never live up to the original. That being said, we do have a preview of it now courtesy of Audi:

Audi A2 Etron Sketch

It’s going to just be a VW ID.3 under there, but maybe it’ll look good? From the brand:

The A2 e-tron, manufactured in Ingolstadt, will further rejuvenate Audi’s model range and open up access to premium electric mobility. A preview of the vehicle’s silhouette can already be seen in the first design sketch.

Audi is taking the next big step on the road to a consistently electric future. Audi CEO Gernot Döllner has announced the A2 e-tron – the new electric model family from the brand with the four rings – at Audi’s Annual Media Conference. “We’ve listened. Our customers want electric mobility that impresses in everyday life. The A2 e-tron is our promise to deliver exactly that – efficient, compact, and confident. We’re making entry into the electric Audi world easier and more relevant than ever,” said CEO Gernot Döllner.

There’s no change we’re getting it here, don’t worry.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

In honor of St. Pat’s Day, here’s Thin Lizzy performing “Whiskey In The Jar.”

The Big Question

You get to save one brand and kill one brand. Who stays and who goes?

Top photo: VinFast/DepositPhotos.com

 

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Martin Witkosky
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Martin Witkosky
1 minute ago

Save –> Lotus (and tell Geely to fuck off)

Kill –> MG (sad end to a great marque under SAIC)

Slower Louder
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Slower Louder
9 minutes ago

If Mr Tavares had buttoned his jacket that way at his interview with me, he would never have gotten the job.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
24 minutes ago

I recognize that it’s as old as the industry and I do like entrepreneurship, but if all the founder ego supercar brands and EV startups vanished, it wouldn’t bother me. Everybody wants to own an airline with their name on it. *Meh*

Johnny Ohio
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Johnny Ohio
28 minutes ago

I’ve been sitting here thinking about this question. Are there are too many car makers in the world? To me, I don’t think we have enough independent car makers. Much like every other industry in the world, especially in the US, we have the illusion of choice when we don’t really. The car industry does come off a bit better than say something like personal hygiene or cereal where there are just a handful of companies left who own 25 brands(exaggeration) a piece. We should not have to deal with Volkwagen AG, Stellantis, GM, etc. Rather than having those conglomerates kill brands, I’d rather have them be broken up which I’m sure would cause closures given all of the capital expense but I’m talking merely in a perfect world. I think these huge collection of brands under one roof is what is driving a lot of the lame ass design choices of the industry and it may even have something to do with quality issues as well.

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
51 minutes ago

I really want to save VW or BMW, but both are tough.

For Munich, is there a world where we can disabuse consumers of the notion that a sports sedan needs to be AWD and have 600hp? Can beauty survive such ugly times? If so, we could make a 4-door 2-series on its own compact chassis with a rear-drive, manual M-version, designed by someone with eyes, and that’s the flagship, permanently. Everything is a “bigger version of the cool car” until the end of time.

As for Wolfsburg, can such a massive-scale quality nightmare be mitigated, and can a reputation be repaired? VW used to make quality vehicles with acceptable driving dynamics and usable interiors, but none of that applies anymore. Rectifying the reliability won’t do them any good when the interior design requires a lobotomy to appreciate.

If I can pull a miracle to save one, let it be VW. They might be capable of surviving with an interesting product after a course correction, while I have less faith that BMW can weather the storm without resorting to enshittification again.

That said, let BMW continue to wither on the vine, I’d love to extinguish Tesla with my bare hands.

Last edited 48 minutes ago by Ricardo M
Lotsofchops
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Lotsofchops
51 minutes ago

Foxconn is a Taiwanese carmaker that desperately wants to be a carmaker…

Big if true.
I guess the very nature of EVs changes what it means to become an automaker, but honestly I still don’t see the appeal. I know these tech companies go “oh it’s Software Defined, we can do that and worry about the rest later”. As iterated on this site many times, Building Cars is Hard. Even without the ICE+transmission combo, it’s almost impossible to get right on the first try, and continues to be difficult even for established companies.

Ben
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Ben
56 minutes ago

Mr. Betteridge says: No.

However, that’s a qualified no. China may very well have too many automakers, but I’m not in a position to comment either way on that. Additionally, there may be too many brands, but since those brands represent a very small number of actual automakers I would say there has already been too much consolidation in the industry (as with almost every industry these days).

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
59 minutes ago

I’ve been to both Dublins, Ireland AND Ohio. Had a good time in both cities. I will admit I preferred the food in Ohio though. Ihad never heard the Thin Lizzy version of Whiskey in the Jar. I’ll allow it.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 hour ago

I’m surprised you didn’t do Drop Kick Murphy’s for Paddy’s Day.

I assume VinFast is getting into the Airport Tug business, given the programming logic of their “creep” mode.

Killing brands?

I’m killing Apple, and saving Blackberry.

Ron, on the reservation
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Ron, on the reservation
1 hour ago

Leapmotor… had already entered “advanced negotiation stages.”

Up until February 27 of this year, Israel, US, and Iran were in “advanced negotiation”…

I_drive_a_truck
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I_drive_a_truck
1 hour ago

VinFast is going to pivot to ride-sharing and leasing taxicabs in the US.

M SV
M SV
1 hour ago

I’ve seen vinfast running around. Oceans too. But I believe I’ve seen more vinfast. Their secret expansion into Viet American owned dealers is apparently working. If you think about its how other brands launched with a used car dealer getting a new franchise. They just apparently want them to understand Vietnamese.
I do know some Vietnamese Americans that were very excited for vinfast and went a few hundred miles to buy or lease one so maybe that’s part of it. If they go to Vietnam they are everywhere they have pretty decent interiors and work there so I could see why you would be drawn towards them and want one at home.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 hour ago

The world has one Stellantis and 50% of Chinese brands too many automakers.

Greg
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Greg
1 hour ago

The big conglomerates need to just pare everything way back. Take their 12 brands with basically the same car and make 2, entry level and higher end, sorta like Chevy/GMC used to be.

I think world wide, there’s probably 75% too many brands. I would be for more brands, if they were unique and offering something of value. Most are shit copy cats with no real innovation, or at least innovation that is user oriented and not data/tracking/ad sale innovation.

Fuzzyweis
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Fuzzyweis
1 hour ago

Kill Buick, save Pontiac…dang, too late.

M SV
M SV
1 hour ago

Stellantis is not long for this world. I suspect the Germans will fall on hard times and not fair well either. They can all go. GM and Subaru can go with them. I just hope jeep and ram end up in good hands. I would hope ford will survive, as well as Daihatsu, and Suzuki someone needs to keep making the litele neat cars.

We are really at a pivot, if you look at he amount of tech companies that are no longer around or absorbed during various phases. Even the big ones like rca. They owned the whole supply chain and rights yet they only really exist in name only. Similar to many of the car brands that exited 100 years ago. I could see gm going down to two brands like Ford. As well as some separation of bev and ice.

Mrbrown89
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Mrbrown89
1 hour ago

Kill Lancia, RAM (back to dodge), Maserati absorbed by Alfa Romeo, Kill DS automobiles to save Chrysler, Kill Opel and put the effort on Peugeot/Citroen.

Jaguar is already dead to me.

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