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The Giant Car Parts Company That Owns Fram And Raybestos Just Filed For Bankruptcy

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If you’ve been working on your own cars for a while, you’re probably familiar with brands you’d find at auto parts stores. Boxes labeled Fram and Centric and Raybestos containing reasonably priced parts fit for daily drivers are staples for regular wrenchers. Well, those brands just hit by a big bow wave, because their owner, First Brands Group, has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

First Brands is pretty huge. In addition to owning Fram filters and Raybestos brakes, the group also owns brake brands Centric, Carlson, and International Brake Industries, towing equipment brands Bargman, Bulldog, Draw-Tite, Fulton, Reese, Tekonsha, Wesbar, and the towing division of Westfalia. It also owns windshield wiper brands Anco, and Trico, holds the licence for Michelin wiper blades, owns remanufactured parts giant Cardone, lift support brand Strong-Arm, and the LED division of Philips, along with Airtex, Autolite, Carter, Luberfiner, Hopkins, and Petroclear. If you own an older car with third-party parts on it, there’s a good chance at least one of them was manufactured by or for First Brands.

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The privately-owned auto parts group started life when Cleveland-based Crowne Group LLC (also privately owned) purchased wiper blade company Trico in 2014. The company already had experience in the auto parts field, so it seemed like a good fit. It took a steady five years for the first serious expansion of that arm to happen by way of acquiring Fram in 2019. Shortly after that, the two subsidiaries were bundled together under the First Brands banner, and that’s when the current course was charted.

Raybestos Brakes First Brands
Photo credit: Raybestos

For anyone following recent bankruptcy protection filings in the automotive space, it shouldn’t be surprising to learn that the streak of acquisitions accelerated starting in 2020. On July 31, 2020, First Brands announced it had purchased both Raybestos-owner Brake Parts Inc. and Luberfiner manufacturer Champion Laboratories for undisclosed sums. As Chief Marketing Officer Guy Andrysick stated in a media release at the time, “Both Raybestos® and LuberFiner® are important and natural complements to our current vehicle maintenance and vehicle repair product solutions.”

Centric Brakes First Brands2
Photo credit: Centric

Less than six months later, First Brands announced that it had purchased Centric, an enormous brake parts company with applications for just about everything, and brands at every price point. There’s C-Tek for budget-conscious drivers, all the way up to performance brake parts brand StopTech. A figure for this acquisition was not disclosed, but that’s the way it goes with companies that aren’t publicly traded.

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Draw Tite
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In 2023, First Brands bought Horizon Global, a group that owned an absolute shedload of towing parts companies including Draw-Tite and Reese. Since Horizon Global was publicly traded, we have a lot more information on this acquisition, chiefly that the change of ownership involved a cash tender of $1.75 per share. With 27.73 million shares outstanding, we’re looking at around $48.5 million.

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Photo credit: Fram

Those sort of huge acquisitions require serious cash to close, and most companies don’t have eight or nine figures in the bank earmarked for expansion. Instead, they often rely on outside financing to raise funding, and debt’s modest cost of capital keeps financing cheap. However, if that debt can’t be paid back within a prescribed timeline, that’s when things go really wrong. Earlier this month, cracks really began to show. On Sept. 25, the Financial Times reported that First Brands’ financing vehicle Carnaby Capital Holdings had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in Texas.

Entities tied to First Brands Group and its founder Patrick James have filed for bankruptcy protection in the US, compounding issues at the car parts supplier whose troubles have roiled credit markets.

Carnaby Capital Holdings and several entities that raised debt linked to First Brands filed for Chapter 11 proceedings on Wednesday, raising the likelihood that the business is itself on the brink of bankruptcy.

First Brands, a US maker of windscreen wipers and fuel pumps, has come under intense scrutiny for its use of off-balance-sheet debt tied to invoices and inventory. Some lenders fear this financing was poorly disclosed in the main operating entity’s balance sheet, making it difficult for creditors to know how much debt it had in total.

Allegations of financial opacity aren’t good, and it gets worse. The Carnaby Capital Holdings filing claims that this group of special-purpose financing vehicles tied to First Brands holds more than $500 million in assets and more than $1 billion in liabilities. If that’s just a subsidiary, what are things looking like for the crown jewel?

It turns out we didn’t have to wait long to find out how ensnared First Brands Group was in debt. Just a few days after Carnaby Capital Holdings filed for Chapter 11, First Brands did the same. As Reuters reports, “First Brands, which filed for bankruptcy in the Southern District of Texas, disclosed assets exceeding $1 billion against more than $10 billion in liabilities.” The outlet reports a total of around $6 billion in debt to be restructured, a sum that’s simply unfathomable to many.

First Brands Group
Photo credit: First Brands Group

So, what happens next? Well, Chapter 11 means that a reorganization effort will be the first thing attempted, rather than Chapter 7, where a company gets stripped of assets and dismantled to pay its creditors. Indeed, First Brands stated that it’s secured $1.1 billion in debtor-in-possession financing from its first-lien lenders to keep the lights on while this whole thing goes down. As a result, it’s unlikely that both OEMs relying on Fram and Trico parts for their new vehicles and DIY-ers looking for reasonably priced car parts will be in a pickle, at least in the immediate future.

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However, the bankruptcy filing of First Brands seems to be yet another cautionary tale on the limits of feasible growth. The group piled on both acquisitions and debt in a manner that likely ended up being too quick to be sustainable, and this is the result.

Top graphic image: Fram

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Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
3 months ago

Godframnit.

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
3 months ago

This wouldn’t have happened if Big Tom Callahan were still alive.
https://youtu.be/S2XvxDaIwCw?si=1r1P_FSyT3j0ISbz

Fix It Again Tony
Fix It Again Tony
3 months ago

Luckily I stocked up on my Stoptech brake pads. Should last me a couple decades.
That’s the only brand there that I buy on purpose.

OptionXIII
OptionXIII
2 months ago

Man, if I’d have known they were going to go bankrupt twice, I would have done the same.

I did manage to get some incredibly nice brake calipers out of it though. Afco F88s were made private label by Stoptech for Afco. The remaining stock a few years back on Speedway Motors was $45 each – cheaper than the rebuild kits! I bought a few sets.

Sadly I can’t get the 309 “Sport” pads for them anymore.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
3 months ago

Company doesn’t exist 10 years ago, now it owns 20+ brands and then suddenly goes bankrupt, shocker. The execs go home with a ton of cash and a bunch of regular people lose their jobs. Establish/experienced manufacturers go out or get stripped for parts and what’s available to the consumer gets crappier. Gee, I wonder what trends could have led our society into a crisis…

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
3 months ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

this really really sucks. especially because most of these parts are made here i the USA. If these brands disolve not only will people lose their jobs but car owners will be forced to buy inferior garbage parts from china or WORSE there is no parts to buy and the cars get crushed. how can the federal trade commission allow this much consolidation of auto parts under one roof? this is a huge anti trust failure by the government.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
3 months ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

Yep

PlugInPA
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PlugInPA
2 months ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

We also need better rules in debt financing, because this keeps happening over and over where somebody loads an otherwise functional company up on debt, runs it through bankruptcy reorganization, and comes out ahead. I guess more of these need to be forced into Chapter 7 and the execs and PE firms need to face clawbacks.

Red865
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Red865
2 months ago
Reply to  PlugInPA

Will never happen since the Politicians know who butters their bread.

Someone should make a list of all of the well-known companies of the past that are no more due to this PE playbook. Will be a long depressing list.

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
2 months ago
Reply to  PlugInPA

yeah we need to tell the banks “sorry but that’s a risk you took loaning a broke person all this money now they can’t pay sucks to be you” but the government will never do that because if the bank goes under now the tax payers have to give all the bank customers their cash back. so now these perfectly functioning companies have to liquidate and shut their doors to pay the banks back.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
3 months ago

The problem with acquisition sprees is it piles on debt. The bankers and executives don’t care because they get their bonuses and fees up front but excessive financial engineering makes you go broke. Private equity is particularly bad, Cerberus ( the guys,who bankrupted Chrysler) managed to drive Remington into bankruptcy in the middle of massive growth in gun sales for almost every other gun maker. The notable exception was Colt, where private equity owners lurched from bankruptcy to bankruptcy, selling assets along the way, until CZ bought the remains a couple of years ago. This is another case of unsustainable growth when debt service exceeds profits

M SV
M SV
3 months ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

Colt is a case study in its self. Could easily be Lockheed if they aren’t careful. Relying completely on government contacts, when you get passed over it’s over. Have to have some kind of private sector sales. Ironically CZ’s history probably tought them you can’t rely on governments.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
2 months ago
Reply to  M SV

CZ has had quite a ride, and their arms business always relied on export sales. They also diversified early with CZ Strakonice going into bicycles, motorcycles, and currently forklifts and car parts. CZ Brno is also mostly industrial stuff, and CZ-UB and CZ-USA have the gun business. Ironically at the time they bought Colt, CZ’s subsidiary Dan Wesson was a major maker of premium Colt 1911 pattern pistols, and Dan Wesson was the great grandson of the S&W Co founder.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
3 months ago

WE NEED MORE!!!! THINK OF THE STONKS!

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
3 months ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

its a private company there arent even any any stocks.

Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
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Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
3 months ago

Well, it looks like Mr. Creosote (First Brands group) just had his Wafer Thin Mint! 😉

for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpt4a6H99c

Last edited 3 months ago by Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
The Pigeon
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The Pigeon
3 months ago

waffer thin

Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
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Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
3 months ago
Reply to  The Pigeon

Perhaps he should of stuck to something from the Autolite selections and stop Fram-ing food down his own throat.

Njd
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Njd
3 months ago

The PE shell game falls apart pretty quickly if something happens at the top.

MDnMD
MDnMD
3 months ago

So this is why 7317 is never on the shelf!

Arch Duke Maxyenko
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Arch Duke Maxyenko
3 months ago

Me: First Brands can’t have my brand in there, I have special brands.
Some infographic: Look, look with your special brands
Me: MY BRAND!

M SV
M SV
3 months ago

As much as I hate PE consolation and MBAs in general. I’m not sure these particular finance bros / “business experts” can be blamed for the downfall of those brands. Fram the big joker of them all has been dangerous for over 15 years. I’m fairly sure trico was overcharging and underperforming before 2014. And last time I got rayspestos brake pads post 2020 they seemed fine.

Alot of that stuff is made in Mexico so when your free trade turns in to turns into tarrif and you have long term fixed price contracts that puts you in a very tight spot.

I’ve also noticed a lot auto parts stores changing manufacturers or brands on several things rather recently that used to be made by one of their brands. If they did try to jack up prices on the stores and they went elsewhere then I guess it could have been their fault. As less people work on cars those brand will mean and be worth less and less. The guys in the business of fixing cars don’t care about brands they care about service, price, and quality to an extent. Most of the time they will use the house brand of whatever auto parts store they use the most. Unless they find that is a problem or OEM parts of electronics. Whatever is the least headache.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
3 months ago
Reply to  M SV

Seconded, a tech currently waging war against shitty DVT-pro TPMS. If I have to order Autel to replace the two sensors I just installed for a customer because they were **non functional out of the box**, you’ve wasted my time and made it more expensive than having the quality parts the first time.

M SV
M SV
3 months ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

From what I’ve been told john dow stuff has gone way down in quality. I know a few guys that got autels for diagnosis and have switched to all autel and other Chinese stuff like topdon and xtool. With better results. One guy had 5 or 6 bad tpms sensors in a row thew the whole box against the wall and bought the autel. He said hes gotten a bad one but it’s rare.

Cal67
Cal67
3 months ago
Reply to  M SV

My last set of Raybestos brake pads was made in China. I bought them because I thought Raybestos was still made in the U.S. Nope.

Scruffinater
Scruffinater
3 months ago

I’m a little disappointed by all the Fram hate on here unless they have taken a turn for the worse pretty recently (possible, but I can’t find any evidence to support that). All the oil filter dissections I’ve seen indicate they’ve been making high quality filters for at least a decade at this point. I know they were “glued together paper junk” before that, and I too began my automotive maintenance career avoiding them at all costs. But they definitely cleaned up their act and became my go-to brand for a widely available quality filter at a reasonable price. Sometimes brands change for the better, and we should be just as open to that as to finding out a once quality brand is not anymore.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
3 months ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

Fram user for 55 years. Never a problem.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
3 months ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

I actually prefer the Fram filters with their “Sure-Grip” coating. I change the oil every 3000 miles on our daily drivers and at least every two years on our rarely-driven vehicles and I’ve used Fram filters for the last 20 years or so and have never had a single problem with them.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
3 months ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

I used to joke on BITOG that if Fram was as bad as characterized, the roadsides of America would be clogged with failed cars from Fram induced failure.

Michael Beranek
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Michael Beranek
3 months ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

Same here for over 40. Never once had an issue, and I have to say Fram’s oil filters just feel more substantial in your hand.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
3 months ago

Agreed. I became somewhat convinced when as a kid I saw how many of the best teams in racing used Fram products.

Especially NHRA and NASCAR teams.

I can’t comment on the ‘decline in quality’, mostly because I am totally unfamiliar with that allegation from my own use and experience.

Black Peter
Black Peter
2 months ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

Do you seriously think either NHRA or NASCAR use off the shelf consumables?

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
2 months ago
Reply to  Black Peter

Not the point…

Black Peter
Black Peter
2 months ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

I think it’s precisely the point, you cannot associate the use or sponsorship of a product by a racing team with the quality of the off the shelf product. A driver of cost, sometimes over the cost of materials is quality control, that’s why so much money and expertise is invested in statistics. Fram or Champion or whoever won’t test every part in their production line because they use statistics and sample x number off the line, balancing the cost/loss against the risk of bad product going out the door. This is what separates a $15k Rolex from a $5K Tudor, even though they are made in the same factory. The Tudor doesn’t go though as rigorous quality checks, so expensive little gears and whatnot aren’t thrown away as failing QC like they are in the Rolex line. Fram and Champion will perform higher quality checks on parts going to a race team, because if your engine blows due to a bad filter they don’t care, if a professional driver’s engine blows it’s on national TV. If they lose $200 on ever filter or set of plugs they provide to a team, it’s money well spent.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
2 months ago
Reply to  Black Peter

I know of several successful racers that have used off the shelf parts. Do you seriously think?

Not everyone has deep pockets, you might be surprised.

Last edited 2 months ago by Col Lingus
M SV
M SV
3 months ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

I know of a fram oil filter blowing up a year ago. So I don’t think they have changed all that much. That’s why most people won’t run them. My dad was a hard core fram guy for decades I told him to stop he didn’t one blew up on him while on an interstate he said never again.

Black Peter
Black Peter
3 months ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

I can’t say I’ve cut open a filter I knew was a Fram in some time. Last one I opened was a “Subaru Blue” which I think was manufactured by Fram for Subaru, but I only think that. However once you open up a Fram filter and see how shoddy it is (I have done this, not relying on YouTube or whatever) what leads you back to trusting the brand again? Especially with something as important as an oil Filter?

M SV
M SV
3 months ago
Reply to  Black Peter

I’ve personally seen the remnants of 3 of the fram grip exploding. I’ve heard of dozens more from people that had no idea of the online reports. That alone is enough for me to stay away. But seeing the internals is extra disturbing. I believe you are correct about the Subaru blue it was all but publicity confirmed by Subaru or fram the last I saw.

Last edited 3 months ago by M SV
Black Peter
Black Peter
2 months ago
Reply to  M SV

I didn’t know about the exploding, just about them being made from hot glue and paper towels.

M SV
M SV
2 months ago
Reply to  Black Peter

My theory is the adhesive they use to join the plastic grip side to the metal fails with humidity and time. Could be some kind of plastic issue too sometimes there is a little of it left. It happens to farmers alot. That’s where I first heard about it. Most boaters won’t run them either as there are stories. My dad had it happen on a Toyota Camry in a humid urban environment.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
2 months ago
Reply to  M SV

Can you provide a link please?
Otherwise this sounds like an example of urban or rural legend.
Thanks.

M SV
M SV
2 months ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

There are multiple forum posts about it over at least a decade maybe 2. The ones I’ve seen the plastic grip part blows off and the filter medium is exposed.

Here are some.
https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1929794&page=1

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/fram-oil-filter-just-exploded-in-front-of-us.25747/

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
2 months ago
Reply to  M SV

Appreciate this.

Widgetsltd
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Widgetsltd
3 months ago
Reply to  Black Peter

FWIW Subaru dropped the blue filter in favor of black Tokyo Roki filters a year or two ago.

Black Peter
Black Peter
2 months ago
Reply to  Widgetsltd

I dropped them before long that.. Started using either K&N or Mazda, the Mazdas fit perfectly, just not as easy to find at a reasonable price.

Footballplaya3k
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Footballplaya3k
3 months ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

Go check the oil filter section of BITOG and you’ll see Fram’s quality has been decreasing since the First Brands acquisition. Before then, their filters (especially the Ultra) were highly regarded. Since First Brands, the Ultra for example has materially cheapened and worsened significantly; no more fully synthetic media, no more wire backing, no more seal between the filter and leaf spring, and worst of all a wavy leaf spring that allows unfiltered oil through the filter.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
3 months ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

Yah my car blew up fram filters around the 3k mile mark. Go to wot and bam suddenly its an undersized bypass only as something inside collapsed. Mind I paid a bit more for something else from Walmart. They sure liked ignoring me though.

M SV
M SV
3 months ago
Reply to  Xt6wagon

Its amusing to me the Walmart auto department values the frams at $1.50 while the super tech on the shelf is maybe $3. I’ve heard you can bring them the filter and oil you want from the shelf and sometimes they will prorate the quaker state and fram and you pay the difference. But who knows how many will actually know or care enough to do that.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
3 months ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

This sounds so minor but do two and three and four digits of oil changes and that dipped, friction surface can be the highlight of your day that day.

Cal67
Cal67
3 months ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

I know for VW diesel 1.5, the Fram anti-drainback valve absolutely did not work. Every time I started mine I got the low oil pressure light until the filter was refilled. That happened twice and I ripped it off and installed a Mann filter.

Dan1101
Dan1101
3 months ago

The whole corporate-salad thing needs to stop. Half the clothing brands in the mall were owned by one company. The majority of brands in grocery stores are owned by a handful of companies like Unilever and Kraft. The mortgage salads led to the mortgage crisis in 2008. Bigger is not better for brands and consumers, too many eggs in one huge basket.

Last edited 3 months ago by Dan1101
Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan1101

Yeah, that’s the reason I can’t get my Frusen Glädjé anymore, Unilever didn’t want to keep making an internal competitor to Ben & Jerry’s

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
3 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

LOL I haven’t heard that name in 25 years.

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
3 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

I love how Frusen Glädjé got sued by Häagen-Dazs for deceptive marketing and the court told Häagen-Dazs they had “unclean hands” because of their own BS marketing.

Peter d
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Peter d
3 months ago

Back in the early to late 1980s I would sometimes bump into professionals that worked at Fram’s R&D (&production) center in Rhode Island. Back then their products were top notch and they benchmarked all their competitors to make sure they were leading the market. This was at least 3 corporate owners ago, so it is likely their quality has gone down. I still like the orange trade-dress, their products definitely stand out on the shelf.

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
3 months ago

Pedo Trump’s messing with the economy strikes again!

JCat
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JCat
3 months ago

Another fine addition to Holley’s collection of every single automotive aftermarket company.

Mike B
Mike B
3 months ago

Side note, I run those Raybestos E3 brake pads on the front of my 4Runner, they’re fantastic. Great bite and little dust, and after about 40K miles they still look to be at about 50% life.

AlfaAlfa
AlfaAlfa
3 months ago
Reply to  Mike B

Agree – I have them on 2 of my cars. They’re quite good.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 months ago

Overleveraged company goes on a spending spree acquiring other small companies to become huge – then business climate changes and the interest payments can’t be made anymore.

The ones who walk away making money on this carnage are the M&A guys, the Attorneys and the C-Suite.

If the business is to survive – production goes to cheaper suppliers from China, Malaysia, etc.

Employees, shareholders, bond investors and customers are all left holding the bag.

We’ve all seen this hundreds of times before.

Last edited 3 months ago by Urban Runabout
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
3 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

I will never understand the insatiable urge to buy up other companies. Money, I get that, but, it just seems like a headache. Don’t these people have hobbies? They have all this money, can’t they find something better to do than mismanaging companies into bankruptcy?

C Mack
C Mack
3 months ago

I’m putting money on the glut of MBA’ers out there that have been educated on this way of thinking, over the years

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
3 months ago

And funny thing is EA games just got bought out by the Saudi’s and Jared Kushner. Gotta love it rich get richer by pushing out slop and running companies into the ground.

Dan1101
Dan1101
3 months ago

Yeah as if EA wasn’t crappy enough already. This acquisition is going to be terrible.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan1101

Yeah they have been mostly terrible with a few good games here and there lately but yeah this just seems like dead man erm company walking.

Data
Data
3 months ago

Actually, it’s a leveraged buyout where EA assumes 20 billion in debt. Bye, bye Mass Effect 5; not dead yet but dead to me after the interminable wait and the fact Bioware hasn’t released a good game in over 10 years. EA, whereinnovative game studios go to die.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
3 months ago
Reply to  Data

All the Bioware greats have moved on at this point. I was not even excited for Mass Effect 5 after the most recent Dragon age and Andromeda being very meh. But with Saudi’s taking over the company I could not see them being happy with something like Mass Effect hell I wonder what will happen with the Sims (another series destroyed by greed)

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 months ago

Because more is never enough.

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
3 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

I know. And that’s where I am different. I don’t find it fun to do more things but do them worse.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 months ago

Making money at the expense of others and a few companies while creating nothing isn’t doing it worse.

It’s doing it “Late Stage Capitalism 2.0”

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
3 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

This sort of thing is so common in most name brands now.

The need to become bigger and to control markets and market share is largely driven by greed at the top corporate level, especially in privately owned firms. Yet it also thrives in the publicly traded firms as well.

There’s a ton of money to be made in shady ways.

Last edited 3 months ago by Col Lingus
Mike B
Mike B
2 months ago

Marketplace domination, they want to play in every market segment. My employer got bought out a few years ago by a big company like that, they’ve since bought up a bunch more smaller companies. Apparently, it’s cheaper/easier to just buy a company that already plays in a market you want to get into than developing your own products.

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
3 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

The point is, how do you know the Merger Fairy isn’t a crazy glue sniffer? “Build model airplanes” says the little fairy, but we’re not buying it. Next thing you know, there’s money missing off the dresser and your daughter’s knocked up, I seen it a hundred times

Rafael
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Rafael
3 months ago

That quote from Chief Marketing Officer Guy Andrysick was not from a press release, but from a speech. The guy actually managed to say out loud both “®” characters.
Dude be failing captchas in real life.

Rafael
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Rafael
3 months ago
Reply to  Rafael

P. S. Have to admit that I only realized his title wasn’t “Chief Marketing Officer Guy” halfway through my comment.

PlugInPA
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PlugInPA
2 months ago
Reply to  Rafael

I thought “Andrysick” was a joke last name and spent a few brain cycles looking for the pun.

CreamySmooth
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CreamySmooth
3 months ago

Besides the loss of Champion labs (makers of many OEM oil filters and Purolator in North Carolina) I don’t see where there’s a problem here. Centric had a nice thing going for a while until they were acquired and quality went out the window. The rest of these ‘brands’ are somewhere between “use if in a pinch (Reese, upper tier Fram)” and “better off going to the junkyard”

Really tired of these MBA types trying to consolidate every possible competitor and push worse product for same or more money

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
3 months ago
Reply to  CreamySmooth

I’ve had good experience with Tekonsha brake controllers, and in particular the company’s tech support. To your point, every other First Brand brand has equal or superior alternatives, IMHO.

It’s a shame for workers who had no say in the matter.

JDE
JDE
3 months ago

Indeed, the Tekonsha relay systems are decent quality. Fram has been the bigger failure story in recent times though. YouTube testers kind of killed them.

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
3 months ago
Reply to  CreamySmooth

Really tired of these MBA types trying to consolidate every possible competitor and push worse product for same or more money.

Precisely.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
3 months ago
Reply to  CreamySmooth

Auto-Lite batteries are pretty good quality, you only have to top up the water three times per year

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
3 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Maybe give the voltage regulator a firm whack while you’re at it.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
3 months ago

I’m just glad that it wasn’t Callahan Auto Parts that went out of business. I’m a lifelong customer.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
3 months ago

I’m not sure you can trust them. There’s no guarantee written on the box.

Frobozz
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Frobozz
3 months ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

hey, you could get a guarantee on the quality of your steak by sticking your head up the butcher’s ass, right?

JDE
JDE
3 months ago

Pretty Sure Ray Zelinsky is the CEO of First Brands though.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
3 months ago
Reply to  JDE

Make sense, an auto parts retail chain with its own manufacturing plants builds a 34 story skyscraper headquarters in the heart of Chicago, and fills a chunk of its prime upper floors with a windowless product testing facility. They’re obviously not a company that’s smart with money

The Pigeon
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The Pigeon
3 months ago

Rolls-Royce of brake pads. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about them.

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
3 months ago

Let’s think about this for a sec, Ted, why do they put a guarantee on a box? Hmm, very interesting.

Jsloden
Jsloden
3 months ago

Never big on fram but loosing some of the others would definitely suck.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
3 months ago
Reply to  Jsloden

I doubt any of them would go away. They will just get bought by other companies and carry on more-or-less as usual. What can be conglomerated can easily be disaggregated.

Commercial Cook
Commercial Cook
3 months ago

all driven by greed.

Mike G
Mike G
3 months ago

Reading between the lines, private company leverages debt to buy other companies, they continue at their normal value, debt price goes up, company goes under. No one wins except the lawyers who set up the purchases, and now the bankruptcy and the CEO who probably quit 4 years ago.

When do they get a government bailout?

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
3 months ago

Fire sale.

To be split, purchased up in bits, and consolidated with deep cuts to the workers and replaced with inferior product.

Jesse Lee
Jesse Lee
3 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Fram is already an inferior product though.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
3 months ago
Reply to  Jesse Lee

There is no limits to “inferior”.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
3 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

“This is just an empty soup can with Fram written on it in Sharpie.”

JJ
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JJ
3 months ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

They could at least let you keep the soup.

Son of Dad
Son of Dad
3 months ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

COTD right here

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
3 months ago
Reply to  Son of Dad

Thanks!

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
3 months ago
Reply to  Son of Dad

They’d probably be mad at you for not using an off-brand marker.

The Pigeon
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The Pigeon
3 months ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

That’s why it works so much better than a regular Fram.

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