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Georgia’s Governor Vetoes The Imported Car/Kei Legalization And The Reason Is Really Weird

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Car enthusiasts in Georgia just suffered a depressing loss in the battle against imported car bans. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp just vetoed House Bill 308, the bill that would have legalized Kei cars in Georgia. The reason why actually had nothing to do with Kei cars at all, but street takeovers. Perhaps weirder is that while everyone may be hurting now because of this, the veto might actually be a good thing in the long run. Here’s what madness is going down in Georgia right now.

Georgia’s war against Kei cars has been raging for nearly two years. In fall 2023, the Georgia Department of Revenue, Motor Vehicle Division, issued a notice to all of its county car registration offices. According to the state, it had long officially banned Kei vehicles–the smallest class of road-legal cars in Japan–over a decade ago. However, enforcement had been shoddy. Countless Kei owners had no problems registering their cars.

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That changed in 2021 after the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA) recommended that all states ban all vehicles that were not originally built to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). That year was when Georgia tried to get more serious about wiping Kei cars from its roads. Still, the state says, it found that even two years later, its tag offices were ignoring the rules and still issued license plates to Kei owners all over the state.

The Letter

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The May 2023 letter marked the start of a hard crackdown on Keis in Georgia. Not only did Georgia instruct its tag offices to cut it out, but Georgia also punished the owners of those Kei vehicles by revoking their titles and license plates.

Unfortunately, like so many states that have banned Keis, Georgia also didn’t even know what a Kei was. The state told tag offices to identify a Kei based on the presence of a short VIN. The problem with that is that every Japanese market vehicle has a “short VIN” (actually a chassis number) regardless of its actual size or class. A big Toyota Century has the same short VIN as a Kei car.

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The state also offered guidance for attempting to identify Keis older than 1981, since U.S. market cars didn’t have 17-digit VINs either until then. For that, county tag offices are supposed to plug a suspected Kei VIN into a National Highway Traffic Safety Administration VIN decoder, and if it comes back as invalid for road use, the tag office can assume the vehicle to be a Kei.

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Enthusiasts struck back swiftly. Tatsu Kazuya, owner of Jora Imports in Georgia, engaged the help of Lefkoff Law to sue the state. Others worked with their lawmakers in an attempt to enact change.

In February 2024, Rep. Jay Collins introduced House Bill 1239. His bill, which received Republican support, called for the legalization of “miniature on-road” vehicles, and Rep. Collins argued to the House Motor Vehicles Committee that Keis had all of the lighting and other requirements for a car to operate on roads in Georgia.

The lawsuit was put into a holding pattern while this bill worked its way through the Georgia legislature. Sadly, HB 1239 died, but in early 2025, the bill came back for the new session as HB 308. This time, HB 308 passed its way through the House and the Senate, gaining major bipartisan support, just to die on Gov. Kemp’s desk on May 14. The bill was promising, then it fell apart right at the finish line.

Street Racing In A Kei Bill?

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What caused the veto was something strange. The bill’s original purpose was to grant legality to Kei vehicles in Georgia. However, in late March 2025, the Georgia Senate added completely unrelated language to HB 308, stating:

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Said title is further amended in Code Section 40-6-390.1, relating to reckless stunt driving, by adding a new subsection to read as follows:
(b.1)(1) As used in this subsection, the term ‘intelligent speed assistance device’ means a device designed to be installed within a motor vehicle to actively monitor and prevent the operator from exceeding a preset speed. Such term shall not include any technology provided by the motor vehicle manufacturer as a component of a motor vehicle that controls or affects the speed of a motor vehicle.
(2) Upon conviction of a violation of this Code section and in addition to the punishment provided for in subsection (a) of this Code section, a court shall be authorized to order the installation of an intelligent speed assistance device upon the motor vehicle operated by the offender during such violation when the offender is the registered owner of such motor vehicle as shown in the records of the Department of Revenue. Such order shall set the maximum speed limit for an intelligent speed assistance device installed upon a motor vehicle at a speed limit of no greater than 20 percent above the posted speed limit.

In short, the Senate added an anti-street takeover provision into a bill that was otherwise just about Kei cars. Now, something like this is common. Bills often carry more than one completely different change. If these bills go into law, they have the chance of knocking out more than one problem at the same time.

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The addition of the intelligent speed assistance devices didn’t stop the bill from passing, either. But it’s clear that Gov. Kemp wasn’t happy. In his veto, Gov. Kemp commented:

House Bill 308 would, among other things, empower trial courts to order the installation of an “intelligent speed assistance device” when the registered owner of a vehicle used that vehicle to commit the offense of reckless stunt driving. While this provision is well-intentioned, as such devices could be a valuable tool for preventing street racers from becoming repeat offenders, the bill does not provide the necessary infrastructure to ensure this punishment would be consistently and effectively applied.

For the foregoing reasons, I VETO HOUSE BILL 308.

The street racing aspect of HB 308 seemingly took over the bill’s original goal, which was about Keis. Even when Axios reported on HB 308, there was no mention of the Kei part of the bill.

The Dirty Fine Print

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With that being said, the Kei part of the bill wasn’t really a win. On one hand, the bill called for the legal recognition of Kei vehicles. Then, the bill continued with more good news, saying that Keis that are at least 25 years old will be considered to be motor vehicles and will be registered. Great! But then there was this:

Miniature on-road vehicles shall be operated only on highways that are part of a municipal street system or county road system, provided that such operation has not been prohibited through ordinance or resolution within a local jurisdiction, and shall be authorized to cross highways that are part of the state highway system.

This section would have severely limited the operation of Keis. Basically, Keis would only be allowed on the same kind of slow, small-town, and rural roads that low-speed vehicles, golf carts, or side-by-sides might be found on. Georgia is absolutely covered in state roads, which would have meant that, if passed, lots of Kei owners wouldn’t have been able to legally leave home because their driveway ends at a state road.

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The bill got some support from enthusiasts. Some enthusiasts were just happy to have any kind of legal recognition for their cars. Others thought of the bill as more of a loss than a win.

The problem is that while having some legality at all is technically better than a ban, having only partial legality codified into law would have brought on a huge headache. If enthusiasts want more freedom to drive their cars, they would have to fight to change the law. Sadly, the enthusiasts of Maine –a state that, in summer 2021, passed a law banning all vehicles not built to FMVSS–know how hard to change a law once it’s passed.

Since summer 2021, the states of New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Michigan, Massachusetts, Texas, Illinois, and Colorado have joined Maine in either passing restrictions on Keis or outright bans, with varying levels of success in enforcing such policies and laws. In 2024, enthusiasts in Texas, Massachusetts, and Michigan successfully beat their bans. Here in 2025, Colorado became the first state since 2019 to protect Keis in law, so AAMVA’s recommendations cannot easily lead to a ban.

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All of these states are following direct recommendations issued by the now-infamous American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA), a non-profit and non-governmental lobbying organization run by DMV administrators and law enforcement in all 50 states, Washington D.C., Canada, Mexico, and the Virgin Islands.

While AAMVA recommends that every state in the nation ban any and all vehicles not built to FMVSS, it also specifically targets Kei trucks as being particularly unsafe. I have written extensively about AAMVA, click here to read more.

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The Path Ahead

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In the short term, this veto is going to cause a lot of heartache. Georgia’s enthusiasts have been fighting their state for two years, and now, with the veto, they’ve been brought back right to the start with the state’s hard ban still in place. They’ve invested thousands of dollars into this battle, and it must feel like their wheels are spinning.

However, there is still hope. Georgia’s enthusiasts can still revisit their lawsuit. They may even be able to educate their lawmakers on why Keis should not be treated like golf carts. A future bill could be less restrictive on Keis. Times are dark now, but they don’t have to be going forward.

Sadly, the organizers of the original lawsuit against Georgia say that they may need to launch another GoFundMe. Funding has run dry, and there’s likely going to be a long and drawn-out battle ahead. Further details haven’t been revealed yet. As of right now, it seems Georgia’s import enthusiasts are just mourning the loss and venting frustration of having spent two years just to be brought back to the start.

We’ll be monitoring this situation as Georgia regroups for the next stage of its fight. Next month, the enthusiasts in Illinois will be making their voices heard during a hearing with the state on June 6.

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EricTheViking
EricTheViking
1 month ago

Instead of fighting state by state, we ought to pool the fund in filing the RICO lawsuit against AAMVA.

YeahNo
YeahNo
1 month ago

Kei-put

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
1 month ago

What a great idea! Now get out of my way, I have to legally drive to Atlanta in my 1930 Model A Ford, which is clearly a much safer option vs. a Kei car.

Anoos
Anoos
1 month ago

The first time a keiload of teens dies in an accident on an interstate they will be outright banned everywhere.

I understand the push for total access, but take whatever wins are available while they are available.

Once politicians get to claim they’re protecting the lives of children by opposing kei cars, it will be very difficult to find any allies in places of power. There are a lot more parents than kei owners.

Scott
Scott
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

Carloads of teens die in big, non-kei vehicles almost daily in America, thanks to lax/inconsistent DUI enforcement, token driver education, and a general ‘fu¢k everyone else’ national attitude when it comes to the well-being of others.

But given the reactionary nature of legislation, you’re sadly probably right.

Anoos
Anoos
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

Complex issues don’t fit in sound bites.

Simplify it down to one thing to scapegoat. Nobody will ever hold you accountable if eliminating that one thing does not help the problem.

TJ996
TJ996
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

Nah, teens can die on a Ducati or from a gun and we allow both of those.

Anoos
Anoos
1 month ago
Reply to  TJ996

Both of those products have industry lobbies behind them.

Kei cars have a few barely-organized and entirely non-funded enthusiasts.

Scott
Scott
1 month ago

I know this isn’t the point of this article, but it reminds me that I’m STILL infuriated that California, of all places, remains so steadfastly anti-kei. The single largest state by population (by far), the fourth or fifth largest economy on Earth, one that’s been setting it’s own auto-related legislation re: CARB/cleaner cars/EV adoption/etc… for decades (and those rules have been adopted by 16 other states last time I checked) and YET, California is a state where kei cars generally can’t be registered.

I’m not saying that it doesn’t ever happen… just that it’s not supposed to happen, which makes it difficult and expensive. When I go to the huge and amazing JDM car show in Long Beach each year (The JCCS Japanese Classic Car Show… next one is Oct. 11th) https://japaneseclassiccarshow.com there are hundreds of fantastic kei cars old and new, and the majority of them have out of state plates. When I attend the Toyotafest (also in Long Beach, happening on June 28th this year) next month https://www.japanese-city.com/calendar/events/index.php?eID=37255 I expect it will be the same: a few folks have somehow managed to obtain CA plates/reg for their quirky little kei vehicles, but the vast majority will have resorted to getting their cars registered elsewhere (and if they live/drive regularly in CA, they risk a ticket because if you live here, your car is supposed to be registered here within 30 days of moving …my sister’s lovely old 70s baby blue Mercedes 230 with NY plates got ticketed once in Burbank… cops there are very zealous about it).

I like to think of California as mostly progressive, most of the time. This, despite the fact that only LA and SF are really all that blue: the majority of the state is agricultural/rural and votes that way. San Diego too has a rather red flavor too: what with the Navy base there forever, and being so close to the border and all the unavoidable politics that entails. But the two biggest and most populated counties: LA and SF, with a bit over 10 million souls between them, are generally blue/somewhat progressive politically and culturally. Which is not to say that there aren’t pockets of red resistance: Simi Valley and a few other spots in LA are notoriously right-leaning. CA also sometimes elects a Republican governor for some reason (don’t ask me why… aside from Schwarzenegger’s celebrity, I can’t figure it out).

All of this (the general progressiveness of this state, with its size and weatlth, and its 40+-million-strong population …about one in every nine Americans IS a Californian) and its overt melting-pot vibes with cultures from all over the world embraced and celebrated, is what makes the steadfast anti-kei position taken so inexplicable and frustrating. CA ought to be in the forefront of giving the OK to kei cars on public roads. The not-yet-passed state senate bill 712, also known as Leno’s Law (for obvious reasons) will, if passed, make it easier to keep a classic car on the road, though it doesn’t help keis specifically as far as I know. Right now, only vehicles manufactured in 1975 or earlier (so, only the very first production year for a lovely old Volvo 240 wagon, for example) are exempted from having to be smog tested in order to register. If Leno’s Law passes, that will change to vehicles 35 years of age and older instead, so (in 2026, if it happens) cars from 1991 and earlier will no longer need to be smogged). As anyone with a 20+ year old car knows, getting it to pass smog testing consistently (every two years) is not a sure thing: a tiny evap CEL from a pinhole leak in a hose is just one of the many ways an old car can fail the test, and therefore, not be allowed to renew/register.

Cars that old (20+ years) and kei cars make up only a tiny fraction of vehicles in the state, and thus, only a tiny fraction of miles driven, so they’re not responsible for a major chunk of emissions. Hence the common sense behind Leno’s Law.

OK, rant over. I’ll shut up now and go back to my morning coffee. 😉

Last edited 1 month ago by Scott
Dingus
Dingus
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

I just want to say that I got a MFing jaywalking ticket in Burbank and I’m still mad about it 20 years later.

That’s all.

Scott
Scott
1 month ago
Reply to  Dingus

When I first moved to LA over 30 years ago, I got one in Los Feliz (just east of Hollywood) and it wound up costing me $521 by the time it went to a collections agency in Texas. I’m still mad about that one too. 😉

Yes I Drive A 240
Yes I Drive A 240
1 month ago
Reply to  Dingus

Lol, well thankfully jaywalking is legal now so you won’t have to worry about it next time!

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

According to this California DOES allow Kei cars to be driven on public roads but with restrictions:

California classifies Kei trucks as low-speed vehicles (LSVs) or specialty vehicles, depending on their configuration. Key regulations include:

Permitted Roads: Kei trucks can operate on roads with a speed limit of 25 mph or lower in some areas. Certain local jurisdictions may permit use on roads with speed limits up to 35 mph.
Highway Access: Generally, Kei trucks are not allowed on highways or interstates. Their use is restricted to local roads and designated routes.

https://allaboutlawyer.com/are-kei-trucks-street-legal-in-california/#google_vignette

Of course the devil is in the details. Just because its possible to get one registered doesn’t mean its easy or cheap.

I wonder if the solution to both the emissions and speed limitations hassles might be electrification using something like a wrecked LEAF as a donor. I wouldn’t want to do that to a LSV Kei but one that was designed for freeway speeds? Maybe.

Scott
Scott
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

That’s interesting CB, so thanks! I knew that (at least in some parts of SoCal) low-speed or ‘neighborhood’ electric vehicles can be legal to operate on public roads because I’ve seen one of those GEM EVs (the ones that look like golf carts) plus at least one actual golf cart driving around my neighborhood. I believe that such vehicles are still required to be registered/plated, insured, and operated by a licensed driver, though I’m not positive about all those points. The golf cart I see around the neighborhood is definitely not plated and probably not insured either, but I’ve never seen it travel south of Franklin Ave., so it’s unlikely a cop ever gets a chance to see it.

So it makes sense that keis could be driven on some roads in SoCal (I do see them on the street very occasionally, but almost always w/out of state plates) though it seems that they can only be legally operated on roads where the posted speed limit is 25 or less (35 in some jurisdictions …maybe more rural ones?). That means that they could only be driven on very local/small streets… I think most streets in downtown Hollywood (south of Franklin) have posted limits of 30 MPH (I googled briefly but didn’t find a magic website that showed all posted speed limits and google maps itself didn’t seem to have this available as an overlay).

I suppose there’s also a DMV classification specifically for low-speed vehicles like the GEM and golf cart. I assume that the DMV doesn’t let the registrant chose the vehicle classification, so if you walk in there wanting to register your Honda Acty (for example 😉 …I always wanted one of those 🙂 ) I don’t expect they’d do so as a ‘low-speed’ or ‘neighborhood’ vehicle, since I think most versions of a stock Acty max out at about 70 MPH. Still, I’d be a bit shocked if the DMV even knew what a Honda Acty is, let alone that they’d be willing to register it in CA.

But maybe I’m just a pessimist. 😉

Last edited 1 month ago by Scott
Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

Here’s a story of a guy with a registered 1994 Mitsubishi Bravo Kei van in SoCal:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/mitsubishi-bravo-microvan-making-waves-california

“A nice find! But how were you able to register it in California?

Once we got it, we started showing it off like a child with a new toy, but we kept hearing how it would be nearly impossible to register it in California; the vehicle was registered in Pennsylvania at the time. Knowing it would be very difficult, I decided to take on the challenge. Since it’s a Japanese import, there are 11 characters in the VIN instead of the usual 17, needless to say the DMV didn’t have any info on this car in their system. I was sent to CHP [California Highway Patrol] for VIN verification and was told I would need the title, all import documents, smog and insurance. In the meantime, they issued temporary registration. Appointment with CHP was set, I was nervous as hell, then the pandemic hit. My appointment was canceled until further notice. While modifying the van, I was persistent on calling them weekly to see when they can see me. A few months later they gave me a date! Just my luck, the CHP VIN officer was also a car guy. He couldn’t stop smiling when he saw the van. He said it was so different from the typical vehicles he usually inspects. He took the car out back, was the longest 30 minutes of my life, and came back with a signed and stamped VIN verification form. I immediately ran to the DMV to grab my plates before they changed their minds.

Sounds like you were at the right place at the right time! ”

So maybe you ARE just a pessimist 😉

Scott
Scott
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Yah, most things are possible w/enough patience and effort, this is true. Someday, I might even feel good when I wake up in the morning, instead of being a bit surprised to still be alive, which is my morning default for the past 10 years. Anything is possible. 😉

Richard Truett
Richard Truett
1 month ago

I have imported and registered a 1993 Rover 220 and a 2000 Rover 75.
I wonder how long it will be before the gov’t comes for my cars…

Mgb2
Mgb2
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Truett

Ah, it’s great to meet the other weirdos who prefer want their RHD cars with an English accent!

John Patson
John Patson
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Truett

Don’t tell them they are rebadged Hondas…

Richard Truett
Richard Truett
1 month ago
Reply to  John Patson

Neither are. Do your homework…

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
1 month ago

If you want something JDM at this point, I think you’re better off just getting a special spec of a car that was sold here. Civic Type R, Accord SiR, etc. The DMV will just see it as a Civic/Accord and the people in power are too stupid to know the difference, so less chance of it being subjected to some nonsense ban.

Anoos
Anoos
1 month ago

Those will still run into problems because they won’t have a US VIN.

Yes I Drive A 240
Yes I Drive A 240
1 month ago

This was basically the way people imported JDM cars before they were legal.

Space
Space
1 month ago

This is good, bad laws almost never get removed, start from scratch. The Colorado kei law has flaws too but this one was worse.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago

Dear Governor Kemp,

Please, one phone call. Help us.

In 1993, you started your first business, Kemp Development and Construction Company, with just a pickup truck and a shovel.

Help the few Kei owners be whole. It’s a small win for everyone, but this small win often leads to smiles and helping one’s neighbor.

-Parsko

TheDon
TheDon
1 month ago

Land of the free, and “united” states indeed. Can’t legally import a car before 25 years, then even after that you’re still not allowed to drive said vehicle in certain states.

YeahNo
YeahNo
1 month ago

NOK

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Ugh I hate politics

Mr E
Mr E
1 month ago

I really don’t understand these bans. Keis aren’t really that much shorter in length than a Miata, for example, which is legal to buy, insure and drive in the US. I also highly doubt Japanese car companies would build an unsafe vehicle, even if doesn’t comply with FMVSS standards (I also doubt that our standards are better than any other country’s). This whole exercise by misinformed state governments smacks of ‘we know better than you what is good for you’ elitism. Furthermore, it’s not like every person is going to go out and import a kei car if they suddenly became legal. The average American just loves their huge SUVs and trucks. I reckon we’re talking about a very small percentage of registered vehicles in any state. Much ado about nothing.

SonOfLP500
SonOfLP500
1 month ago
Reply to  Mr E

I have seen a previous generation kei-van after a serious collision on the Tomei Expressway. It looked like a bomb had gone off inside it. Current kei-vans are much stronger but, of course, they are subject to the 25-year ban.
On the other hand, it depends what you mean by safe. A contemporary full-size truck is is safe for the people inside it, but not for anybody else who come into contact with it.
In almost any circumstance, I would take being hit by a 25-year-old kei vehicle over a truck, and that goes double for electric trucks.

Jd Jd
Jd Jd
1 month ago
Reply to  SonOfLP500

plus you can still drive a model t on the same roads as a modern car and a Kei car is definitely safer.

Dingus
Dingus
1 month ago
Reply to  SonOfLP500

So ban motorcycles?

Same logic, they’re unsafe so ban them.

We should also ban cars without airbags, cars without ABS.

Next ban cars without stability control or parking sensors and backup cameras.

Now ban any cars that don’t have autonomous driving features.

Ban any car that is not internet connected, that’s a security risk!

Either that or maybe we can maybe just STOP FUCKING BANNING EVERYTHING! Something something land of the free home of the brave?

Mr E
Mr E
1 month ago
Reply to  Dingus

Now, replace the word ‘car’ or ‘motorcycle’ or ‘kei’ with ‘guns.’

(sorry if this is too political, but…the irony…)

Gerontius Garland
Gerontius Garland
1 month ago
Reply to  Mr E

Shh, don’t say that, they’ll just ban Miatas too.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 month ago

Surprised that some technically-minded anon with a Kei car fetish hasn’t started to debase the AAMVA. I feel like that might only be a matter of time.

MP81
MP81
1 month ago

the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA) recommended that all states ban all vehicles that were not originally built to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS)

So, any vehicle pre-1967 must be banned then too?

Since, you know, they were not originally built to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

Captain Avatar
Captain Avatar
1 month ago
Reply to  MP81

I’ve asked essentially the same question on at least two of these articles, and…..I don’t think anyone knows. I imagine that a literal interpretation would mean every car on the road not built to FMVSS (so…any import of any age, and as you point out, any US car built before 1967) would be ineligible for registration. That seems absurd.

SarlaccRoadster
SarlaccRoadster
1 month ago
Reply to  MP81

There are also these things called ‘motorcycles’ that are very much allowed on highways and everywhere else, and despite their riders not being protected by any kind of metal shell, most states don’t even have mandatory helmet laws (only 18 states have them).

Not sure how one could quantify this, but I reckon someone in a kei car with thier seatbelt on is.. let’s say 3,000 (number pulled out of my ass) times less likely to be injured/killed in a crash than a meatbag riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

I seriously doubt any of this kei-banning nonsense has anything to do with safety, and everything to do with lobbyists money.

Maybe the Georgia legislature should slide in some provision about increased jail time for teenagers seeking abortions after an incest, and that would surely get the govt’s stamp of approval. /s

Last edited 1 month ago by SarlaccRoadster
Vetatur Fumare
Vetatur Fumare
1 month ago
Reply to  MP81

Clearly that’s the ultimate goal. Kei cars are merely the first group of vehicles to be targeted, because wealthy people and muscle car fans simply don’t care.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Couldn’t the Georgia legislature overide his veto if it truly wanted too?

I think enthusiasts should all put on hoods and march on the Governor’s office, chanting Kei, Kei, Kei! Maybe burn some autocross tires.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

They could, if they cared enough to bring it to a vote. But that’s probably a longshot.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I tend to agree with you, but then why bother to spend time and money on a bill that you don’t care about passing? Fraud, waste and abuse right there.

Drew
Drew
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Looking at the voting history, the House may not have the votes to override the veto after the Senate amendment. The House approved the amendment by a much lower margin than the original bill they sent to the Senate. It’s also likely that some of the votes that pushed it through might be persuaded by the veto to vote against it this time.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  Drew

Sad. Thanks for the update.

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Ha! Yikes.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

I’m pretty sure in a lot of Georgia that’ll get you a warm welcome and an invitation to the dinner table, and I don’t exclude the governor’s mansion when I say that.

M SV
M SV
1 month ago

So they are going to ban 15 years of dodges. It sounds like there are people that get there info for 20 year movies and are still wrong. Kei car take over sounds hilarious though.

Jason Smith
Jason Smith
1 month ago
Reply to  M SV

I agree! I’m normally strictly anti-take over (I know it’s like being anti-puppy stomping), but a kei take over sounds like a great time!

M SV
M SV
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason Smith

Somehow I think it would be organized with food trucks and vendors. I used to go to a show outside of a diner that turned into mainly JDM stuff then they added Korean and Japanese food trucks on the edge of it then later moved it near by to a food hall type thing that had mainly Korean and Japanese food.

Jason Smith
Jason Smith
1 month ago
Reply to  M SV

I’m 100% down for all of this!

M SV
M SV
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason Smith

I think they are car shows of the future. I accidently found another one in a different city once just because I saw all these JDM and modified 90s usdm cars going in to a parking lot. It turned out to be a mega church in a strip mall with a japanese and Thai restaurant and a boba place. So plenty of parking and no one to tell them to go away. It’s a good way for those place to attract business like diners used to.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago

I’m going to take the silver lining perspective and say I think this probably, or at least possibly, shakes out better than getting a bad law on on the books in the first place.

We have all sorts of state and federal regulations that are far more damaging in their existence than we would have in their absence. My pet example is COBRA “coverage,” which lets you buy full-price health insurance after being terminated from a position that had offered health insurance as a benefit. Seems reasonable? Ish? Except that what was $150 a month when you had a job skyrockets to $950 after you’ve lost the job (these are not made-up numbers).

So you’ve lost your means to pay for a thing, and the thing gets sixfold more expensive, but then it’s a legislative stalemate forevermore because it misleadingly represents the aftermath of job loss and health insurance coverage as a choice the individual is making (which in the USA is somehow more important – the appearance or suggestion of self-reliance, much moreso than functional healthcare), rather than a desperate gamble compressed into hideous shape by circumstance. Instead of leaving the door open to something fair to good to great, we’re saddled with something bad and codified as such.

Is this where we should be with kei cars? No. Does this mean something good is definitely going to come of it later? No. But this at least leaves the window open and lets a little fresh air get to the flame, rather than Georgia deciding it has Solved the Kei Car Problem and then forever relegating them to effectively off-road status.

Mgb2
Mgb2
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I agree that getting it correct from the start is a better way to go, but you have to realize that at the time COBRA came about, it was literally a lifesaver. At the time, health insurance was much less expensive, so your premium increase wasn’t nearly the hit you experienced. That full premium was still the price of your employer’s group coverage, so less expensive than what you would be able to buy as an individual. It was also the days of an insurance plan either delaying or completely denying coverage for pre-existing conditions if you lacked continuous coverage, so that added even more value to COBRA coverage.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 month ago

What if I, say, modified my Kei by converting it to diesel without any emissions control devices? Perhaps jack it up on comically large wheels? Hang some darling little Kei nuts on the trailer hitch? Would still have to switch the speedometer from KM to freedom inches?

Saul Goodman
Saul Goodman
1 month ago

In other unrelated news, I have a set of 2007 Honda Civic vin tags for sale. Will ship to Georgia.

(For decorative use only.) 😉

Nick Adams
Nick Adams
1 month ago

Liberals want your guns, fascists want your cars. Can’t we all just have both?

Icouldntfindaclevername
Icouldntfindaclevername
1 month ago

I got Georgia on my mind 🙁

Dalton
Dalton
1 month ago

This is a really interesting case of this. It does seem like a good thing that this didn’t get passed.

Drew
Drew
1 month ago

I think it may be ultimately better this law didn’t pass. I hope the lawsuit(s) and further pushes from kei enthusiasts ensure full legalization. The restrictive bill would have made it harder for that to happen, especially in the courts. If the law specifies something like that, the courts will generally stick with the laws in place unless a law is unconstitutional. If there is no law, then the court still has the opportunity to say that the Department of Revenue has overstepped.

The whole thing sounds super frustrating at every step, though. Pausing the lawsuit because of pending legislative relief, seeing a bill pass and get vetoed, and needing to start back up in the courts…that’s rough.

Pat Rich
Pat Rich
1 month ago

Freakin riders.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Pat Rich

Idea for political drama/action movie (what’s Kurt Russell up to these days?):

The Riders, in which a gang of elite activists enforce legislative clarity by riding into the chambers of various legislative bodies to do bitchin motorcycle stunts directly on hard copies of nonsensical addenda, shredding them in a haze of tire smoke and paper, tearing ass out of there before the sergeant at arms can do anything about it. In this way, they instill reform in legislation through their campaign of sick stunting and public outreach, as hoary old lobbyists try to team up with the Secret Service to end this scourge of lawbreaking lawmaking. As you might expect, there is absolutely a liter-bike faceoff/showdown to make it into the Capitol building to before something especially egregious is signed into law.

edit: I’m thinking it’s like… an update to change the language around section 179 deductions that also BANS ALL MOTORCYCLES

Last edited 1 month ago by Mechjaz
Yzguy
Yzguy
1 month ago
Reply to  Pat Rich

“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, democracy simply doesn’t work.”
https://youtu.be/lKPZDq9IQIU?si=KDslhJhbVfie0VT4

Last edited 1 month ago by Yzguy
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