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Help Me Figure Out What Cars Were Rebadged From A Fancy Brand To A Downmarket Brand

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Car re-badging, euphemistically known as badge engineering, is one of those things that tends to baffle me, like using a yo-yo without getting a fat lip or the continued popularity of circus peanuts. I’m never exactly sure how money gets made by offering basically the same car with slightly different trim and a different name, but hundreds of thousands of Ford Pintos/Mercury Bobcats and Dodge Omnis/Plymouth Horizons and Volkswagen Sharans/SEAT Alhambras and other badge-engineered wonders are surely proving me wrong. Most badge engineering efforts either re-badge a car on roughly the same level of status or take a lower-tier car and upgrade it to a higher tier, like, say, a Toyota Land Cruiser becoming a Lexus LX or a Chevy Cavalier becoming a Cadillac Cimmaron. Very rarely do we see a premium marque re-badging a car as a budget brand. But there have to be a few of those, right? I can think of a few, but I wonder if there are more?

First, let’s just think about the low-to-high status rebadges we know about. There are many, once you start to think about it.

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In fact, many carmakers have entire separate brands that are about doing just this sort of thing, like Lincoln and Mercury to Ford, or Lexus to Toyota, Acura to Honda, Infiniti to Nissan, Audi to Volkswagen, and so on. This is really quite a common practice, taking one car and up-contenting it, making a few design and detail changes, and calling it a whole new, fancier name. Oh, and then selling it for a lot more money.

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But the opposite direction, that’s a lot more unusual! Probably because it’s a lot harder to make money by taking a car sold as a premium brand and making it cheaper. And, my sources in the industry have told me that this “making money” business is a big deal to most, if not all, automakers. And yet, this premium-to-basic re-badging has happened a few times! Here’s the best examples I could think of:

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So, these three basic examples were all I could come up with for a universally-accepted premium carmaker re-badging a car that they initially designed and sold under the nameplate of a clearly more downmarket brand. They include the most obvious one, I think, the Kia Elan, a re-badged Lotus Elan, the Mercedes-Benz G-Wagen, which was also sold as a Puch G-Wagen (Puch did the engineering of the four-wheel drive system), and the Peugeot P4. Then we have the Land Rover Discovery, which was sold for a period in the ’90s as a Honda Crossroad.

There’s one other example that I’m not quite sure how to classify:

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In non-American markets, the Porsche 914 was sold as the VW-Porsche 914. So, here, Porsche just said what the hell and put both up- and downmarket brands on the car! Does that qualify or not? I’m not really sure, and I can’t think of another example like it.

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Am I missing some examples of this rare and beautiful riches-to-rags sort of badge engineering? Is it really just those three cars? I bet there’s a few more, and if there’s any group of car geeks who can figure it out, they’re right here, all you Autopians. So if you know of any, please, shove them in the comments!

 

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Cryptoenologist
Cryptoenologist
2 months ago

Lotus Elise to Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220

Mercedes Sprinter to Ford

BMW Z4 to Toyota Supra

Toyota Matrix to Pontiac Vibe(I’d argue that Toyota has way more positive value than Pontiac).

Someone else already said it but MB SLK to Chrysler Crossfire definitely counts.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 months ago

When was the Sprinter rebadged as a Ford? 😮

I know about the Dodge Sprinter, but not Ford!

Cryptoenologist
Cryptoenologist
2 months ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

You’re right, it was rebadged to Dodge and also VW in Europe.

Austin Vail
Austin Vail
2 months ago

Never heard of the Opel Speedster before… and it’s basically a lighter and more powerful Lotus Elise!? Well I know what I wanna import in 2026…

Who is the Leader
Who is the Leader
2 months ago

I think we’re missing the most obvious one here. Chevy Tahoe to Cadillac Escalade. Not quite a straight rebadge but close enough as makes no difference.

Cryptoenologist
Cryptoenologist
2 months ago

I’m pretty sure those go the opposite direction- the lower marque was first and it got rebadged to luxury. But if it was luxury first then yeah, and are we missing any other SUVs that started life as a Escalade, Buick or Mercury and became a Chevy, GMC or Ford.

Last edited 2 months ago by Cryptoenologist
lastwraith
lastwraith
2 months ago

The Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe was a “joint venture” at their NUMMI plant I believe, but yeah, it’s a Toyota.
Also, don’t give up our secrets!
The Vibe is the better buy IMO – American car pricing and insurance rates, Japanese car reliability (Corolla engine) and parts availability. And I can buy parts from either side.
Plus in a conversation, your car can either be foreign or domestic (or both). Piss off everyone or no one, your choice!

Last edited 2 months ago by lastwraith
BubbaMT
BubbaMT
2 months ago

Audi A6-VW B5 Passat.

Ricardo Mercio
Ricardo Mercio
2 months ago
Reply to  BubbaMT

That was A4-based, but still a good example

Jacob B
Jacob B
2 months ago

Would the Genesis G90 to Kia K900 count? I think they both came out at pretty much the same time. The K900 was a fantastic value, unfortunately no one wanted to pay $70k for a Kia.
Then there is also the Genesis G70/Kia Stinger but I think the Stinger came first and the G70 just reused its (excellent) platform.

ProudLuddite
ProudLuddite
2 months ago
Reply to  Jacob B

Is Hyundai considered more upscale than Kia? I always considered them different sides of the same coin.

Jacob B
Jacob B
2 months ago
Reply to  ProudLuddite

As of late I think Kia is the more upscale one, but the when the K900 came out Genesis was already a brand and definitely upscale. The 1st gen Hyundai Equus never had a Kia equivalent, with the 2nd gen G90 having the K900 equivalent.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  ProudLuddite

I’ve always seen the following scenario –

Kia is Pontiac/Oldsmobile (K900 is a neo Olds 98; K5/Grand Prix; Cadenza/Bonneville)
Hyundai is more Chevrolet/Buick (Equus=Park Avenue; N models=Chevy SSes; Azera=Regal)
Genesis is more Cadillac (really more Lexus/BMW desires)

Zac H
Zac H
2 months ago

Has no one mentioned the Alfa Romeo Tonale being sold as a Dodge Hornet?

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  Zac H

Are they actually selling though?

Madewithgenuineparts
Madewithgenuineparts
2 months ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

I passed a Tonale yesterday and couldn’t believe it! Seen a base Hornet around too

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago

10 years from now I picture the next gen Alfista who role up in a Tonale and claim “It is an Alfa! It breaks down all the time”.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
2 months ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

Well, they’re certainly peppering yt with ads—though, now that I think of it—it was just while I was binging the classic How Things Work series. Pretty specific and small audience there…

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  TOSSABL

Haven’t seen that. Must be your personal ad filters

Tim Cougar
Tim Cougar
2 months ago

Cord 810 to Graham Hollywood/Hupmobile Skylark: Also involved re-engineering from front- to rear-wheel-drive and failed at the whole “making money” thing.

Opa Carriker
Opa Carriker
2 months ago
Reply to  Tim Cougar

Yay for a comment referencing something truly old. You really got my heart pumping with words Cord 810.

Protodite
Protodite
2 months ago
Reply to  Tim Cougar

Nothin’ sexier than a Hupmobile

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
2 months ago
Reply to  Protodite

Yeah…but my classic zoot suit & coonskin coat rotted away years ago.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago

The Mercury Grand Marquis was technically sold as a Ford in Mexico, though they didn’t actually change the badging.

Also, if you count tooling being sold and re-used, Graham and Hupmobile were both downmarket from Cord, and they re-used the 810/812 body

Tim Cougar
Tim Cougar
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Beat me by one minute.

OnceInAMillenia
OnceInAMillenia
2 months ago

While it was designed to be the first car for luxury brand Amati, that brand failed to launch and Mazda tried to make back the investment by selling a second mid-size sedan called the Millenia (yep, one n) which had Mazda’s only ever factory supercharged V6.

Austin Vail
Austin Vail
2 months ago

I am still mad that Mazda never put Amati’s 3-bank W12 into production…

lastwraith
lastwraith
2 months ago

Appropriate username to share this knowledge.

OnceInAMillenia
OnceInAMillenia
2 months ago
Reply to  lastwraith

You could say that I’m passionate about it – I’ve owned one of each version!

Lounge Singer Chamois
Lounge Singer Chamois
2 months ago

A bit obscure maybe, but Audi A4 to Seat Exeo.

Happy Walters
Happy Walters
2 months ago

Thisis the 3d time this week that I’ve been reminded that I should have gone ahead and bought the M100 when I was 27, single, and had two years of overseas pay in my pocket.

Diego Torres
Diego Torres
2 months ago

The Audi 80 B1 becoming the VW Passat B1 comes to my mind, and it’s the only example I can think of

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 months ago

3rd Gen Buick Park Avenue (China only) —> Holden/Chevrolet Caprice, Daewoo Veritas

1st Gen Lexus LS400 —-> Toyota Celsior

1st Gen Lexus ES300 —-> Toyota Windom

Lexus SC300/400 .—-> Toyota Soarer

1st Gen Infiniti Q45 —-> Nissan President

Infiniti J30 —-> Nissan Leopard J Ferie

Mitsubishi Galant Sigma Coupe —-> Plymouth Sapporo

Eunos Roadster —-> Mazda MX-5 Miata

SK2807
SK2807
2 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

HSV Grange —> 3rd Gen Buick Park Avenue (China only), Holden/Chevrolet Caprice, Daewoo Veritas

Fixed it for you, the Buick was just a CKD assembled from Australian made Holden bodies and engines anyway

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 months ago
Reply to  SK2807

A 3rd party tuner model doesn’t really count as an original version.
Tho the US Chevy Caprice PPV definitely counts as a later downmarket version.

Last edited 2 months ago by Urban Runabout
D0nut
D0nut
2 months ago

How about Mercedes SLK -> Chrysler Crossfire?

Dydaktix
Dydaktix
2 months ago
Reply to  D0nut

If that’s the case Mercedes E Class -> Challenger/Charger

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 months ago
Reply to  Dydaktix

The only parts in common from the W210 E Class and the Chrysler LX were the rear suspension and the transmission.

The Crossfire got an entire platform, engines and major electronics from the previous gen SLK – only the skin was changed.

Happy Walters
Happy Walters
2 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Which points out that Chrysler didn’t decontent the car at all, just tweaked the shocks and sold it for less. Arguably the body was an upgrade, the SLK was boring, and the coupe was far stiffer than the SLK. I dailied a Crossfire for 10 years and loved it.

Last edited 2 months ago by Happy Walters
V10omous
V10omous
2 months ago

Not exactly the same thing, but Hummer becoming a GMC and the SRT Viper (re)becoming a Dodge are both arguably downgrades from when they were standalone brands.

V10omous
V10omous
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

Also some cross-ocean GM rebadges might be downgrades depending on your opinions: Holden to Pontiac or Chevy, Opel to Saturn, etc

Maymar
Maymar
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

Euro market variants of North American GM’s are a great example – see the Chevrolet Alero or Chevrolet Trans Sport.

V10omous
V10omous
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

Does the Chrysler 300 to Dodge Charger count? Not a pure rebadge, but close.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

Chrysler 300 Touring to Dodge Magnum, definitely

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

Hummer is a sub(dom?)-brand for GMC, but it’s not really that different imo. Exclude the H1 (which was before GM purchased AM General), and the H2 and H3 both shared platforms with GMC products.

Actually thinking about it the H1 was designed when AM General was part of AMC so GMC is marketing an old AMC product.

D0nut
D0nut
2 months ago

What comes first the Kia or the Hyundai?

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago
Reply to  D0nut

Technically, Hyundai is supposed to be slightly upmarket from Kia, even though Kia always has the better looking versions of the shared platforms

Taco Shackleford
Taco Shackleford
2 months ago

Does the MB Sprinter vans being re-badged as Freightliners count?

Maymar
Maymar
2 months ago

If not, the Dodge Sprinter absolutely should.

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
2 months ago
Reply to  Maymar

Depends on your take on M-B trucks. From my understanding, M-B is less upmarket in Europe, and they are just considered another truck maker, much like here, where Volvo cars are considered upmarket, while Volvo trucks are just another semi truck. And Volvo trucks are not considered upmarket in the semi world. Most of them are cheap fleet models.

Maymar
Maymar
2 months ago

This was how Dodge was advertising themselves at the time. A Sprinter covered in rust and with one of the doors falling off (their natural state) is still upmarket from that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk9TyzgundA

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
2 months ago
Reply to  Maymar

Believe me I know what you are getting at. I dread being around Sprinters on the interstate. Those guys know their van is junk and will put it on the line to cut off a semi truck

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago

And have you seen the body welds on a 2000s era Sprinter? There’s high school shop classes that can do cleaner work. I think a freaking LDV Maxus was a step up in build quality at the tine

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago

BMW X5 becoming the VinFast LUX SA2.0!

Somewhat similar the Saab 9-6X project was cancelled, however, the external styling differences that were going to be used were then applied on the updated Subaru Tribeca when it was refreshed and dropped the B9 from it’s name. I wouldn’t have considered these models to be cross-shopped as brands and it was the “more expensive brand” being applied to a more mainstream brand.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 months ago

Kia was *this* close to selling the Elan here, but they went bankrupt, Hyundai bought them, and they killed the Elan.

Does the Jaguar S-Type –> Lincoln LS count?

Lamborghini Gallardo –> Audi R8

MAX FRESH OFF
MAX FRESH OFF
2 months ago

Geo!
Toyota Corolla / Geo Prizm
Suzuki Swift / Geo Metro
Suzuki Sidekick / Geo Tracker

Last edited 2 months ago by MAX FRESH OFF
NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

I’d consider these similar brands at the time.

MAX FRESH OFF
MAX FRESH OFF
2 months ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

Toyota is similar to Geo how?
Ever drive a Geo?
I had one as a rental and it was garbage.

Last edited 2 months ago by MAX FRESH OFF
Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
2 months ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

The Corolla & the Nova were quite similar. A fact I used to my advantage when my daughter & her fiancé variously smoked the engine and the automatic transmission:(. The local Japanese components importer had the correct devices in hand when I purchased the replacements.

Last edited 2 months ago by Hondaimpbmw 12
Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago
Reply to  Hondaimpbmw 12

Toyota is definitely more prestigious than Chevrolet or Geo though.
Hell, it might be more upscale than BMW, considering a salesman at the Toyota-Lexus operation steered my dad away from the Supra in the showroom by telling him it was “really just a BMW” and that he wouldn’t be happy with it

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Oh, I fully agree that the Toyota was a step above the Chevy.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

“Toyota is definitely more prestigious than Chevrolet or Geo though.”

When Geo existed as a brand it’s a bit different than what you are probably envisioning now. NUMMI products for GM (Geo/Chevrolet/Pontiac) were on par for the same Toyota products at the time in the eyes of American shoppers. From the NUMMI plant the craziest vehicle was likely the Toyota Voltz. It’s the Toyota version of the Pontiac Vibe, which is commonly portrayed as a GM version of the Toyota Matrix. Full circle.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

Geo was part of the Chevrolet Division, sold through Chevrolet dealerships, had the Chevrolet bow tie emblem as part of its logo, and Geos always had lower residual values than their Toyota or Suzuki-branded counterparts, and when sold new, usually had stronger factory incentives. Slap a GM brand on a Japanese product and it immediately drops at least a half notch in desirability

MAX FRESH OFF
MAX FRESH OFF
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Not always a bad thing, the Vibe was a Matrix without the Toyota tax.

lastwraith
lastwraith
2 months ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

Shhhhhh

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

“it immediately drops at least a half notch in desirability”

For those who know that is a plus.

A Honda Crossroad on the other hand is something that reverses the perception.

The Daewoo Arcadia is an example of something you actually got something better than it should be, not worse.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

At the time it wasn’t. You are showing your age card

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

Age card? Toyota has been above Chevy since at least 1973! Or, was Chevy able to command above MSRP sale prices all during the ’70s and ’80s? GM’s high incentive spending and two near bankruptcies in the period would suggest not

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

40s – old enough to remember when there’d be “car of the year” and “import car of the year”. Peep my username and it might explain that I understand the quality aspect of Toyota, but where I grew up there was a very strong sentiment (still probably is in some parts) that American made > “imports”. Also, Chevrolet and Toyota are both mainstream brands, not a luxury brand vs cheap brand.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

That only applies to rust belt cities away from the coast, where I grew up, everyone acknowledged Honda and Toyota as a step up in desirability from any domestic entry or mid price brand. And they commanded the higher transaction prices to prove it. Other than WWII and Korean War vets who always bought Fords or Oldsmobiles because they were brand loyal and never shopped around, otherwise, it was people who needed a car, and bought on price, the Corsica was cheaper than the Accord and the Chevy/Geo dealer didn’t care as much about credit ratings, so that’s what they got.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

“Other than WWII and Korean War vets who always bought Fords or Oldsmobiles”. Yep that’s my family. Can’t really blame them for surviving the horrors of war and having some resentment for not having brothers, uncle’s, dads, and husbands return.

I begged my family for a used Civic at 16, and guess what? I did the research, found one under budget and got it. They all fell in love with the quality and lack of needs besides standard service and switched to a Honda and Toyota family.

But again, these brands competed with one another and that’s the point. You were actually very smart to buy the Prism vs. Corolla as it was cheaper, but an identical car otherwise.

Taco Shackleford
Taco Shackleford
2 months ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

Isuzu rodeo/Honda passport?
Probably not, really seem like similar brands.

Last edited 2 months ago by Taco Shackleford
ProudLuddite
ProudLuddite
2 months ago

If anything Honda is considered upscale from Isuzu, so it would be upscaling, not downscaling.

Sammy B
Sammy B
2 months ago
Reply to  ProudLuddite

I think first gen Honda Odyssey / Isuzu Oasis might count then? I feel like tossing Isuzu that rebadge was the trade for Isuzu giving Honda the Passport.

Maybe could argue the same on the Chevy S10 to Isuzu Hombre too?

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
2 months ago
Reply to  Sammy B

Isuzu Pup is the Hombre you want.

Adam Rice
Adam Rice
2 months ago

Australia had (has?) widespread cross-badging, so it might be a fertile field for exploration, although when I was there, all I noticed was one mass-market brand cross-badging another.

Laurence Rogers
Laurence Rogers
2 months ago
Reply to  Adam Rice

None that come to mind, as Holden, Toyota, Nissan and Ford are largely at the same level.

I’ll look through some old Australian car books I’ve got and see if I find anything and report back

Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
2 months ago

Do we want to call Bentley the downmarket version after its acquisition by Rolls-Royce in 1931?

Beached Wail
Beached Wail
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

Bentley Flying Spur >> VW Phaeton (kidding…sort of)

Steve Harris
Steve Harris
2 months ago
Reply to  Beached Wail

I think that’s legit, they were very similar under the skin.

ProudLuddite
ProudLuddite
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

My understanding was that Bentley was considered slightly downscale from Rolls, a little more sport and less luxury, emphasis on little.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
2 months ago
Reply to  ProudLuddite

In the 60s it was about $600 cheaper.
Supposedly the idea was that it was for people who were either “embarrassed “ to have a Rolls Royce or their boss drove a RR, in any case a sort of humblebrag.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 months ago
Reply to  ProudLuddite

Back in the day, they were pretty well identical aside from the grill shape. Sometimes they would give the Bentley slightly firmer suspension, but that was as far as it went. It was a very slight step down in prestige though, if for no other reason than Bentleys were marketed more to owners who drove themselves, and Rolls-Royces were more targeted to people with chauffeurs

OrigamiSensei
OrigamiSensei
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

And yet I still lust after a pre-VW Bentley of some sort, whereas I don’t want a Rolls – ever.

Suss6052
Suss6052
2 months ago

The Kia Elan was made after lotus sold the tooling for their Elan, but it wasn’t a badge engineered variant of the original car, more of a continuation so I don’t think it counts.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
2 months ago

Not sure if this counts, but IMO the B5 VW Passat is a downgraded Audi A4 rather then the other way around, because FWD Passats had a longitudinal engine layout, as if it were a A4 Quattro with the rear axle removed.

This is different than the current A3, which is an upgraded Golf (though the platform has luxury in mind) and thus has a transverse engine layout.

Maymar
Maymar
2 months ago

Even if the B5 A4 to Passat is a stretch (it should count though), it gives us the B5 Passat to Skoda Superb.

BubbaMT
BubbaMT
2 months ago

The Passat used the wheelbase/underpinnings of the A6.

Phuzz
Phuzz
2 months ago

Most VAG cars are based on one-another, and at least share chassis and various components. Eg a SEAT Leon == VW Golf == Audi A3 == Skoda Ocatavia.

Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
2 months ago

LaSalles were made by Cadillac and, while some models were more distinct than others, some were pretty much just rebadged.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

DeSoto served the same function for Chrysler models.

Look, a Volvo!
Look, a Volvo!
2 months ago

When Mercedes wanted to enter the South Korean market, they reached out to the highest mark in luxury, SsangYong. Thus the SsangYong Chairman was born.

https://www.autoevolution.com/cars/ssangyong-chairman-2004.html#aeng_ssang-yong-chairman-2004-23

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 months ago
Reply to  Look, a Volvo!

Not exactly.
Mercedes-Benz has been in South Korea since 1987
SsangYong has never been an affiliate of Daimler-Benz – tho there was a link to GM via Daewoo.
Mercedes simply sold off the obsolete sedan tooling to the W124 after production ended in 1995

Last edited 2 months ago by Urban Runabout
Look, a Volvo!
Look, a Volvo!
2 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

My bad.

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
2 months ago

Kinda a stretch, but does Fiat 128 to Yugo count? I realize that Fiat and Zastava are entirely separate companies, but the design lineage is there.

Jacob B
Jacob B
2 months ago

Hmmm. This reminds me, what about the Mazda Miata to the Fiat Fiata?

ProudLuddite
ProudLuddite
2 months ago
Reply to  Jacob B

I don’t think you I would consider Fiat downscale from Mazda, both build entry level cars for the masses. Mazda may have a better reputation for reliability, but Toyota has a better rep for reliability than BMW, doesn’t make a BMW downscale from a Corolla.

lastwraith
lastwraith
2 months ago
Reply to  ProudLuddite

“doesn’t make a BMW downscale from a Corolla”
This would make for an interesting article. Pretty sure there’s an argument to be had.

Steve Harris
Steve Harris
2 months ago

Zastava 750 definitely counts. It was based on the Fiat 600, but the exact same car was also sold as a Fiat 750.

The F--kshambolic Cretinoid Harvey Park
The F--kshambolic Cretinoid Harvey Park
2 months ago

Hmm that’s an interesting one. I suppose the 126 – Polski (and the 127 got the same under-license treatment IIRC) would be the same idea?

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