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I Drove A Base-Model 2025 Diesel Ford F-250 And Was Shocked By How Good A ‘Cheap’ Truck Actually Is

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Pickup trucks are a seemingly unstoppable phenomenon in America. Automakers collectively sell millions of pickup trucks each year to everyone from people who just want a cool daily driver to people running a contracting business. Most of the trucks that get all of the attention are the massive six-figure rigs with exotic leathers, anti-gravity seats, creamy primer color paint jobs, and gadgets that you never thought you’d need and probably won’t use. I just tested a truck that’s the exact opposite of that. The 2025 Ford F-250 Super Duty XL Power Stroke has no gimmicks, no leather, no keyless start, and heck, not even carpet or window tint. Yet, even in this year of 2025, it was a shockingly good truck.

Driving this F-250 XL, the base model of the Super Duty lineup, provided great contrast to the truck that I drove earlier in the year, the F-350 Platinum Plus dually, the flagship of the Super Duty lineup. At their core, these two trucks are both hard workers that haul and tow more than any average person can throw at them. Yet, $40,000 or even more stands between them, and that huge gap in cash translates to a surprisingly different experience between the two.

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I used this F-250 diesel truck like I would any other press vehicle, which is to say that I treated it as my only transportation. I took it thrift shopping, I took it on a road trip, and I used it to haul a car 773 miles home from the Port of Baltimore. In other words, I used this truck just like any regular consumer owner would.

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Luxury Is Great, But Expensive

It’s no secret that Americans love luxurious pickup trucks. People are happy to spend $90,000 or more to get a truck with leather thrones, glass roofs, miles of brightwork, and screens loaded down with all kinds of technology.

Today’s trucks are simply incredible in almost every conceivable metric. A properly equipped Ford F-450 Super Duty could haul an 8,000-pound payload or drag a 40,000-pound gooseneck trailer. I’m not talking about a chassis cab, either, but a rig that you can buy with a pickup bed. Oh, and I shouldn’t forget to mention Ford’s most powerful diesel, the 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 turbodiesel, which delivers industry-leading 500 HP and 1,200 lb-ft of torque in its High Output version.

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Today’s pickup trucks are so capable that you’d legally and physically need a CDL to really flex their muscles to their fullest. Modern radar cruise control systems and level two driver assist systems will even “drive” the truck down the highway, competently handling steering, acceleration, and braking, all while a huge trailer is hooked up to the back.

The fifth-generation Super Duty launched in 2023, and you can click here to read about all of its nuts and bolts. Something that I appreciate about America’s heavy pickup truck builders is that they get granular in explaining hauling capacities. Here’s what Ford gave to the press for the fifth-gen Super Duty’s ratings:

  • Gooseneck towing of 40,000 pounds with F-450 pickup.
  • 5th-wheel towing of 35,000 pounds with F-450 pickup.
  • Conventional towing capacity of 30,000 pounds with F-450 pickup.
  • Gooseneck towing of 38,000 pounds with F-350 pickup.
  • Conventional towing of 28,000 pounds with the F-350 DRW.
  • Conventional towing of 25,000 pounds with the F-350 SRW.
  • Gooseneck towing of 23,000 pounds with F-350 Tremor HO Power Stroke.
  • Conventional towing of 22,000 pounds with F-350 DRW 7.3-liter Godzilla V8.
  • Conventional towing of 18,500 pounds for the F-350 Tremor (gas and diesel).
  • Gooseneck towing of 21,000 pounds for the F-350 Tremor (gas and diesel).
  • Gooseneck towing of 23,000 pounds with F-250 HO Power Stroke.
  • Conventional towing of 22,000 pounds with the F-250 HO Power Stroke.
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While all of this seems ridiculously excessive, it does make sense. If you’re someone who spends more time in a pickup truck than you do at home, then you would want your truck to be a nice place to be. Working in a trade doesn’t mean that you have to be uncomfortable in the vehicle of your trade. So, a lot of working people will buy a luxury truck because these trucks can still do real work, but also treat you so nicely that you can decompress a little between jobs.

But here’s the thing: These trucks are expensive! The 2025 Ford F-350 Platinum Plus that I tested earlier this year was a whopping $111,310. Sure, my press truck had desirable options, which kicked the price up further, but the base price for a F-350 Platinum Plus is $100,955. The cheapest 2025 Super Duty Platinum Plus is the F-250 at $99,455.

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You might remember when I tested a 2024 Ford F-250 Super Duty Lariat last year. The Lariat, which is an upper trim but not a flagship truck, still hit to the tune of $92,520. Sure, that wasn’t the base price — in 2024, a Lariat with no other option than a H.O. Power Stroke was $77,735 — but that’s still nearly $100,000 for a diesel truck.

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If you’re working on a tighter budget, or operate a fleet that doesn’t need all of the luxury, getting a base model, the XL, might seem appealing. You’ll save literally tens of thousands of dollars. But how much worse is the base model compared to the flagship? That’s what I sought to find out.

Cheaper, Still Super Duty

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My 2025 Ford F-250 Super Duty XL was an interesting change of pace. Let’s start with the exterior.

Right off the bat, you’ll notice the regular cab, which I wrote a bit of a love story about earlier this summer. While you’ll often find that cheaper trucks will have smaller cabs, that’s not what I want you to pay attention to. Look at the body. This truck is painted in a solid color, doesn’t have running boards, and doesn’t have an inch of chrome. Anywhere some brightwork would appear on a more expensive truck is all flat black metal and plastic here. Wheels? They’re made out of steel and feature the most basic design.

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Move around to the back, and the XL’s unapologetic basicness doesn’t change. The rear window doesn’t open and doesn’t have any real tint. The tailgate on the bed? It doesn’t open smoothly, and it isn’t motorized, either. Instead, it readily flops into the open position like the truck tailgates of old. While you’re here, check out the lights on this rig. Note that, aside from the LED clearance lamps, they’re all old-school halogen!

I adore this. There are no frills, no thrills, and no garnish. If you looked up “pickup truck” in the dictionary, a base model F-250 could be the representative photo.

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Pop open the cab and it’s much of the same. The cab of the F-250 XL is filled from top to bottom with stiff, hard-wearing plastic.

This is the kind of plastic that journalists would scoff at in a higher trim, but here, I think it’s welcome. Go ahead, kick the door open, get some oil on your fingers, drop some tools into the cubbies, and eat some lunch on the road. This truck interior won’t care. I wouldn’t dare eat a burger in the presence of the suede of the Platinum Plus. But this? The truck would be fine. This is an interior that, if you did make it dirty, a quick run with a wet cloth would dispatch the mess in no time.

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Mercedes Streeter

The seat in this truck is Ford’s 40/20/40 bench, which is covered in basic gray vinyl. This bench isn’t a real bench in the traditional sense, but consists of two bucket seats and a center seat that folds into a multifunctional center console.

While I love bench seats, I’m not the biggest fan of this one. The center portion does not recline and does not adjust forward or backward. This is terrible if you sleep in your truck, which is something that a bench seat is normally pretty decent for. The buckets offered no power adjustment, no height adjustment, and only the most basic recline.

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Mercedes Streeter

This truck also has a grand total of two proper cupholders, and both of them are on the center console bench portion. Fold the center console into the center seat, and the only way to store drinks in the truck would be to slide them into the door panel pockets, which do not hold large drinks well.

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Aside from that, I am a huge fan of this interior. You don’t even get carpet, but a basic rubberized floor. The infotainment screen is barely larger than two phone screens stacked on top of each other, and the instrument cluster features only the tiniest screen with physical gauges. The animations on these screens have low frame rates and again, there’s no sizzle or anything bombastic going on here. Everything is just functional.

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This is further illustrated in the sound system. The one in the F-250 XL is unbranded and doesn’t even have rear speakers. Instead, you get two woofers in the doors and two tweeters in the pillars. That’s it! The last time I drove a new vehicle with a stereo this basic it was a new Smart Fortwo. The audio quality was okay. It wasn’t the clearest, couldn’t handle huge amounts of bass, and flattened out at higher volumes, but it got the job done. Mercedes Jam Session Approved! Also, the infotainment screen still has Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, which is awesome.

Tech is pretty much on the low side. There was no radar cruise control, no active headlights, no passenger screens, no AI-enabled whatever, and not even a keyless ignition. But a welcome change from the base model Super Duty trucks of old is that this one does have a standard cruise control.

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Yep, this truck has an old-fashioned key that slides into a physical ignition. Granted, a modern touch exists in the ignition because it is digital. Just flick the key for a split second, and the truck will start itself, no holding the key in the start position like you would in an older vehicle.

My truck also had some options. The biggest was the XL Off-Road Package, which is designed to give off-roading fans a capable rig in a base model truck. This $995 option piles on chunky 33-inch off-road tires, a locking rear differential, water fording vents, and skid plates. My truck also had a slick winch.

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Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter

Other options in my tester included Onboard Scales & Smart Hitch ($650), a 360-degree camera system ($1,150), spray-in bedliner ($595), front wheel well liners ($180), splash guards ($130), remote start ($250), high capacity trailer towing ($1,130), tailgate step ($375), 410 Amp alternator ($115), Interior work surface ($140), and a handful of other smaller options.

These options did make the truck feel a touch more high-tech, especially Onboard Scales, which uses the truck’s height sensors to roughly measure payload, and the camera system, but I don’t think they were needed.

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Power in this truck came from the standard output 6.7-liter Power Stroke diesel, an $10,495 option, which delivers 475 horsepower and 1,050 lb-ft of torque. It’s backed by 10-speed automatic with a 3.55 ratio rear locking axle.

Let’s Bounce

Alright, so what was this truck like on the road?

In short, this truck was like a time machine back to the trucks of my youth, but with just enough dashes of modernity. There was no technology to figure out or screens to mess with. I hopped in the truck, threw the column shifter into gear, and then hit the road. When it got hot, I used the truck’s many dials and buttons to cool down the cab quickly. It was delightfully old-school.

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On the road, I noticed that the power steering in this truck isn’t overly boosted, like I’d find in more luxurious Super Duty trucks. I actually liked the heavy steering. It was a constant reminder that I was driving a heavy pickup truck that towered over bicyclists and people in Miatas. At the same time, I felt that the weight made each turn feel more deliberate.

Once I got used to the steering, I noticed that the suspension of this rig felt like the heavy-duty pickups of old. By that, I mean that this truck jiggles on every single bump. I used to say that some vehicles have a suspension communicative enough to tell you when you’ve run over a coin and what face is printed on that coin.

Well, this truck is the exact opposite of that. Hit even a mild bump, and the suspension will send a shock through the truck that bounces your chest, makes the dash shake, and jiggles the bed. It’s pretty common knowledge that heavy-duty trucks have rougher suspensions, especially when unloaded. I remember some journalists complaining that the new Ram HDs had bouncy suspensions. I invite those guys to take a ride in this F-250, because it’ll reset their baseline for rough and make those Rams feel like Cadillacs.

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Mercedes Streeter

I place part of the blame on the off-road package, but it’s also just the fact that this truck isn’t working very hard to provide comfort to its occupants. It is not a Platinum Plus or a Lariat. I wouldn’t say that the rough suspension rises to the level of causing any harm, any danger, or any control issues. But this F-250 is extraordinarily bumpy when unloaded. At least the vinyl seats, despite not being nearly as super cushy as the Platinum Plus seats, do an admirable job of soaking up the bumps.

Personally, I thought the suspension was great fun, even if it wasn’t comfortable. Again, it reminded me of the heavy-duty pickups of old, which happily exchanged your comfort for carrying capacity.

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Mercedes Streeter

As I wrote earlier this summer, this F-250’s regular cab configuration had several benefits. It navigated my neighborhood more easily than the F-250 Lariat from last year and the F-350 Platinum Plus from earlier this year. The truck also mostly fits into normal parking spaces. I also adored the rearward visibility, as there was just a window directly behind my head, and not a row of seats and then a window feet away.

In practice, this meant that living with the F-250 as a daily driver was easy. I didn’t have to park in the back of the grocery store parking lot, I easily fit into drive-through restaurants, and I didn’t have to park the truck in the overflow lot at the apartment complex that I live in. The truck even scored 20 mpg around town, which wasn’t bad given that this was still a heavy-duty diesel pickup truck.

On A Road Trip

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On the highway, the truck made for a good road trip companion. Loading the U-Haul Auto Transport onto the back, which weighs 2,210 pounds, did make the suspension a touch softer, but it was still rough. On the highway, the truck scored above 18 mpg when empty and about 17.4 mpg with the empty U-Haul on the back. It then averaged about 16 mpg with the car on the back. Keep in mind that trailer aero matters more than trailer weight, and a 1998 MGF is more aerodynamic than the typical vehicles that I import from Japan or pull out of a random forest.

What I loved about the F-250 XL on a road trip is that, while I was not as comfortable as I was in the Platinum Plus, it was an even easier time. There were far fewer tech distractions, and I felt comfortable drinking a nice lemonade without worrying about what would happen if I spilled any on the seat. I didn’t have to worry if my bright LED headlights were blinding drivers because it didn’t even have LED headlights. I felt comfortable putting a couple of tools in the cab with me. I also liked how, thanks to the rubber floors, cleaning the footwells out was as easy as brushing them out with my hand or a broom.

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This was a great truck to use for hauling a car. You could feel that the standard Power Stroke has less power than the High Output model, but these diesels already make so much power that even the standard version punches harder than you may ever need. This truck will happily light its rear tires or climb through Appalachia with a car on its back without downshifting from tenth gear. The fifth-generation Super Duty makes towing a cinch, and getting the standard Power Stroke doesn’t change that one bit.

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One part of the truck was a little bit of a letdown. While sleeping in the Platinum Plus was some of the best sleep I have gotten in any vehicle, sleeping in the F-250 XL was actually some of the worst sleep. The vinyl bench gets all hot and uncomfortable when you’re trying to sleep, and since the bench isn’t a real bench, the bolsters of the buckets try to jab you and the immovable center seat gets in the way. But, I suspect most people get hotels when they’re on road trips, so ignoring this is easy. When you aren’t trying to sleep on it, the seats are fine. They’re not cushy, but they also don’t hurt or anything after a long day of driving. They’re just seats.

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Mercedes Streeter

This time, I am also happy to report that this truck had zero fit and finish and zero quality issues of any kind. The truck worked every time without a complaint, an error, or anything of the sort. I was even able to sneak in some fun in the dirt with the truck, too. Heavy-duty pickup trucks are a bit weird in how well they off-road despite their sheer girth, and this F-250 was no exception. Sadly, I did my trip during a dry spell, so I couldn’t find any obstacle soupy enough to even come close to get the truck stuck, but it was entirely unbothered by the basic trails that the Midwest tends to have.

In the end, I drove the F-250 XL just a touch under 2,000 miles, with most of those miles being towing.

Base Models Can Be Awesome

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I came out of the other side a bit surprised. The 2025 Ford F-350 Super Duty Platinum Plus was, without question, one of my favorite new trucks of all time. Yet, the 2025 Ford F-250 XL was great, too, but in its own way. I didn’t constantly worry about ruining the XL’s interior, and it was refreshing to have so little tech that the average driver could easily get by without reading the manual. It’s a truck that you can carry tools in or eat lunch in without guilt, and in a worst-case scenario, you can broom the shame away, anyway!

Of course, the biggest reason to go with a truck like this is to save money. My tester, which came with all of the options I noted above, was $74,675, or close to $40,000 cheaper than a Platinum Plus. You can get one of these bad boys for even cheaper, too. The absolute cheapest diesel truck that you can buy from Ford right now is a 2026 Ford F-250 Super Duty XL 4×2 Regular Cab. This has a base price of $45,675. Add in the $10,995 standard output Power Stroke, plus a $2,595 destination charge, and you’re at $59,265. Toss on a 4×4 system and the off-road package, and you’re at $63,050.

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The F-250 is not the cheapest diesel truck in America, that distinction belongs to the 2026 Chevy Silverado 1500 LT with the 3.0-liter Duramax, which costs $56,840. But it’s also not much more expensive! What’s interesting is that, in a truck like this, you’re paying mostly for the powertrain, chassis, and capability. You also might not even pay this much, as a dealer might be willing to throw some cash on the hood to move a base model truck.

For me, this truck taught me that even base models rock. It’s the exact opposite of the Platinum Plus, yet it doesn’t suck. If you don’t need all of the flair and chrome, go with a base model, and I bet you’ll be happy. You’ll get all of the great parts about a Super Duty, and maybe save some money doing it. If you spec it out to $74,000 like my tester was, you’re paying luxury car money for vinyl seats and plastic everything. But for some, being able to tow 20,000 pounds like it’s nothing will make the cost worth it.

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4jim
4jim
3 months ago

$4375 option price for the winch, wow!

Theotherotter
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Theotherotter
3 months ago
Reply to  4jim

Probably because it involves ordering front (and maybe rear) PTOs.

4jim
4jim
3 months ago
Reply to  Theotherotter

I think it is just and electric winch no PTO. it is just a dealer installed 12000# warn electric winch. Jeep charges $2K for a warn winch on a wrangler.

Theotherotter
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Theotherotter
3 months ago
Reply to  4jim

Yikes!

4jim
4jim
3 months ago

I am so old that I remember when people bought small 2 door pick up trucks because they were cheaper than cars. In the late 80s when in college a bunch of my friends had pick up trucks for running to and from college with dorm stuff and no back seat ment fewer distractions (less kids in one car, etc.).

Always broke
Always broke
3 months ago
Reply to  4jim

In fairness, 3/4 ton 4×4 diesels were never cheaper than low cost cars. 2wd mini trucks with 100 hp 4 cylinders were (i owned one), not unlike the maverick today.

4jim
4jim
3 months ago
Reply to  Always broke

OK

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Ford Friday
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Ford Friday
3 months ago

I think it’s pretty ridiculous that the Powerstroke option is $11k. It seems extremely hard to justify on a base truck, especially when you can get an XLT crew cab 4×4 Tremor with some actual nice options and the 7.3 gas engine for the price of this essentially base truck with only the diesel option. You can still pull nearly 20k with the gas models too. It won’t be as effortless going up hills but what matters the most in towing is the truck’s ability to handle and stop with a trailer and the Powerstroke doesn’t help there.

I also don’t buy the efficiency argument because anything you make up in fuel economy you will lose with DEF and fighting emission system issues that come with all modern diesels. It also takes a long time to pay off 11k in fuel.

Rippstik
Rippstik
3 months ago
Reply to  Ford Friday

The diesel option really works well for people who do hot shot work and rack up huge miles every year. Believe it or not, the emissions systems are quite reliable IF you are towing heavy loads for long periods of time, regularly. The efficiency difference and the ability to tow more weight pays back the diesel engine upgrade cost in little time.

If you are going to daily driver the truck that occasionally tows a camper, 100% go with the Godzilla 7.3.

TK-421
TK-421
3 months ago

I’m not a truck guy, but are we calling $60k trucks “cheap”?

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
3 months ago

Mercedes… please tell me you went stump pulling at some random forest preserve in Naperville when you had this.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
3 months ago

If I’m mathing right, adding the Diesel to the base model is a 23% upcharge. Ouch.

Maymar
Maymar
3 months ago

I love the dichotomy of most modern pickups, that they’re supposedly for rugged individualists, who really only buy a handful of models and love their comforts.

On the other hand, one of the few things that’ll be worked harder than a fleet truck is a fleet van. Either way, it’ll have earned its stripes when the vinyl floors are a mix of work dirt and spilled coffee, every possible crevice is stuffed with business cards, and there’s at least one issue that the normal driver has to brief you on (“yeah, it runs a little rough unless you’ve got the radio on 640 AM. No one knows why”)

Idiotking
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Idiotking
3 months ago
Reply to  Maymar

Don’t forget the 7 empty Dunkin’ cups, 2 weeks’ mail, unused Milwaukee manuals, empty vape cartridges, random receipts, and headless Hula girl shoved up between the dashboard and windshield.

Maymar
Maymar
3 months ago
Reply to  Idiotking

Tim’s cups here, but very yes.

Bob Rolke
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Bob Rolke
3 months ago

I’m going to shake my fist at the clouds, but $74,675 is too damn expensive for a base truck.

TDI in PNW
TDI in PNW
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob Rolke

You are not wrong.

Even with inflation taken into account, that’s nearly double the price of a 90s, single cab, 1-ton truck (17-18k)

Shinynugget
Shinynugget
3 months ago
Reply to  TDI in PNW

Came here to say the same. Feels like the Big 3 are taking advantage of their consumers at these prices. $10k for a diesel engine upgrade is obscene.

Rippstik
Rippstik
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob Rolke

To be fair, this was an absolutely loaded example of the base model truck. They almost doubled the base price with options. Subtract the Diesel (10K), the winch (4,375),  Onboard Scales & Smart Hitch ($650), a 360-degree camera system ($1,150), spray-in bedliner ($595), front wheel well liners ($180), splash guards ($130), remote start ($250), high capacity trailer towing ($1,130), tailgate step ($375), 410 Amp alternator ($115), Interior work surface ($140), and you have a (checks calculator) 55K truck. The Ford dealers have been knocking 5-12K off these truck in-stock to get the 2026’s in, so you’re looking at a 45-50K truck (and I still let you keep that offroad package and 4wd; my benevolence is unrivaled).

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Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
3 months ago
Reply to  Rippstik

Keep the tailgate step. Modern trucks are stupidly tall.

I’ll take mine in 2wd form, so it can be even lower for actually putting things in the bed.

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
2 months ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

Plus 1 for the “old
man” tailgate step. I’ve got an F-150 FX4 and it’s too tall for this old man to climb up on. I always thought GMs bumper corner steps were kinda nifty, but even GM went to an all-singing, all-dancing multi-piece tailgate. Gee, why are the bedsides so high I can’t see over them?.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
2 months ago
Reply to  Hondaimpbmw 12

Yep. A normal sized person should be able to reach over the side into the bed. These days you can’t even see the bottom of the bed, let alone touch it.

Theotherotter
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Theotherotter
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob Rolke

There is definitely market-demand pricing going on. In 2020, we (large fleet) could still buy a base F150 XL, regular cab with an 8-foot bed, for about $23k. That is…not the case any more. I recall reading maybe a decade ago that something like 90% of Ford’s *global* profit (or gross income? Not sure what metric) came from F-series pickups. I can believe it.

SCW
SCW
3 months ago

My brother has a 1996 Ford F350 crew cab 4×4, 460, five speed with 275,000 miles , it was used as a logging crummy on the Oregon coast its whole life and we are pretty sure the engine has never been rebuilt and it runs great.
There is nothing harder on a truck than being used as a logging crummy.

SCW
SCW
3 months ago

How did a two door pickup (real truck) escape the crew cab mafia?

Space
Space
3 months ago

This matches exactly what I would want out of my vehicle, physical key, rubber floors no automatic cruise control. I would definitely consider the F150 version of this if I had $35k sitting around.
Instead I bought a police spec vehicle with all this and no touchscreen. 10/10 would buy again.

Plesiomorphus primitivus
Plesiomorphus primitivus
3 months ago

The question is not whether it is good now. The question is whether it will be good at 250,000 miles. If it has a plastic intake manifold, plastic oil pan, and poor build quality overall, it will be just another piece of Ford junk. The goalposts have moved from the 1970s and nowadays we expect our vehicles to be reliable for a long time.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
3 months ago

I’m sure it’s just perspective, but wow that looks like a giant coolant reservoir. Or is the entire thing visible like that (as a car guy, I’m used to them being sunk into the compartment more, with only the cap and the top part easily seen)?

Vanagan
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Vanagan
3 months ago

I wish they had given you the cloth seats, I would rather have them than the vinyl. But they both work, I just hate how vinyl deteriorates and cracks.

Jay Vette
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Jay Vette
3 months ago
Reply to  Vanagan

They probably used vinyl for the same reason they used rubber floors: easy to clean if you spill something on it.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
3 months ago

Every pickup I’ve owned has been a base model. And other than my El Camino, they’ve all had 3 pedals along with manual windows and locks.
Long live base model trucks!

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
3 months ago

The base model F-150s and 250s we had as shop trucks were the ONLY thing I liked about my last sign-shop job. They just plain worked, like a truck should.

Potatomafia
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Potatomafia
3 months ago

The $10k upcharge for the diesel is a hard pill to swallow.

If it were my money, I’d upgrade to the 7.3L Godzilla V8 and call it a day.

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
3 months ago
Reply to  Potatomafia

Those godzillas are thirsty. But the upcharge and maintenance on a diesel will pay for a lot of gas. It depends on how you are gonna use it dictates which motor, I guess

Wolfpack57
Wolfpack57
3 months ago

where I am, gas is $3 and diesel is $4, so the godzillas could afford a lot worse mileage. And the 7.3 isn’t a wilting lily either.

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
3 months ago
Reply to  Wolfpack57

True. Personally id go with the godzilla myself. After I’ve delt with egr, def, dpf and such on my semis there is no way id touch a diesel pickup.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
3 months ago

Mercedes everyone wants to know is it possible to drive this truck dozens of miles without the key and then lock yourself out?

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
3 months ago

Ford planned ahead. That is why she got one with a physical key and no sunroof.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
3 months ago

My first thought on the physical key but digital ignition switch was, “man, that’s dumb.” But in a fleet vehicle it’s probably going to save a lot of keys from disappearing.

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
3 months ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

Yup. If the yard has a locking gate, leaving the key in the ignition is an option. We have a work f150 with keyless, and the key walking off is a major problem

Fire Ball
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Fire Ball
3 months ago

$75,000 for a base model truck. What a time to be alive!

VanGuy
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VanGuy
3 months ago
Reply to  Fire Ball

She clearly explains what options it already has at the end of it. If you don’t need the diesel engine or off-road package, it’s probably around $43,000.

Space
Space
3 months ago
Reply to  Fire Ball

F250 super duty starts around 45k, if you just want a truck a F150 is like 7000 cheaper.

M SV
M SV
3 months ago

Work truck spec is my favorite spec of truck. Love the rubber floors, an actual key. Vinyl seats is love hate. Why ford refuses to put the cruse button of the xl steering wheels confuses me. Seems like someone should come out with the controller you can mount somewhere on the dash so it’s a easy after market or dealer installed option. Hopefully the real world price on that truck is in the 40s. A lot rams are getting significant mark downs I’ve seen a few Ford’s heading that way.

Sackofcheese
Sackofcheese
3 months ago
Reply to  M SV

I’d wager you can swap in the CC button stack and just code it on with FORSCAN. It’s possible to do this with the Maverick XL

M SV
M SV
3 months ago
Reply to  Sackofcheese

I’ve only seen replacing the whole steering wheel from a higher trim then code it.

Sackofcheese
Sackofcheese
3 months ago
Reply to  M SV

The switch is cheap, but personally I’d get the leather wrapped wheel from an XLT or higher too. I hate plastic steering wheels 2021-2025 Ford Cruise Control Switch ML3Z-9C888-DA | OEM Parts Online

M SV
M SV
3 months ago
Reply to  Sackofcheese

That’s probably why I kept seeing people replace the whole wheel. Alot of manufacturers have embedded the modules in the wheel I just assumed Ford had done the same. I don’t mind a plastic or rubber wheel feels more durable to me.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
3 months ago

The only way I would buy a truck. Hose out interior, A/C, cruise, and a basic stereo are all I need in a work vehicle. And to me, trucks are work vehicles, period.

But Dear Dog, *$75K* for this thing! Not that I would spend $10K on a diesel unless I was planning on working it to death all-day-every-day, and probably not even then. The gas V8 is entirely adequate (power beyond the wildest dreams of my youth), uses cheaper fuel albeit more of it, and costs a HELL of a lot less to maintain over the long haul. And Dog help you if (when) the diesel breaks. And it really shows just how much sweet juicy profit there has to be in the Cowboy Cadillacs. I doubt the added tinsel in the $40K more expensive version costs Ford even $5K give the same mechanical bits. And I am sure they are making a tidy sum on the “cheap” ones to start with. What a world we live in.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
3 months ago

Base models today have so much standard kit no one needs anything more. Everyone just wants more.

Jonathan Green
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Jonathan Green
3 months ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

With you on even the base models have it all.

I’ve got a base 4×2 2014 Ecodiesel. Standard Cab, 8ft bed. The only thing I’d change are two things, believe it or not, for practicality: I’d get power windows and 4wd. I have gorilla length arms, and I cannot physically reach the passenger door. And it is not great in the snow, or even wet grass…

Jnnythndrs
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Jnnythndrs
3 months ago

I manage a large fleet, and we use primarily Fords, so I’ve driven a ton of base model F-150, F-250, Transit 350’s and Explorer Police Utilities, and I tend to like the base models too – as you said, the hard plastic and rubber mats hold up pretty well.

My one gripe, and I didn’t see you mention it, is that the ultra-base Ford trucks we have don’t include cruise control, even though they have power locks and power windows, A/C, etc. Do the new ones include cruise on the base models?

My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
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My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
3 months ago

Is there a poorly equipped base model vehicle that’s still on sale?

As in: No A/C, automatic, power windows/locks, cruise, heated seats (maybe that’s a Canada thing)? Maybe a work truck edition F-150 or Silverado?

From a quick glance of manufacturers websites, the base model is quite well-equipped. To the point I’d liken them to mid-range cars of a decade ago, and pretty fancy versions of cars twenty-five years ago.

Indeed, looking at the option sheet for many cars kind of makes the premium trim levels superflous when the basic car has every major comfort feature covered.

I remember thinking in 1998 about how fancy our new van was with A/C and a V6 – and my parents only drove…er…value-edition cars. It sure was a step up in the summer from our base Iron Duke Chevrolet Celebrity sans A/C.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
3 months ago

It is amazing that a so called basic stripped down truck still has equipment that 2p years ago was top of the line.

VanGuy
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VanGuy
3 months ago

I’d be surprised if there’s any regular, consumer-level USDM vehicles available without A/C.

V10omous
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V10omous
3 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

The Wrangler was the last, and made it standard recently, like the last couple years

Top Dead Center
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Top Dead Center
3 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

That’s actually a good question, are any non commercial USDM cars sold without AC anymore? Even commercial work stuff is coming with AC anymore, I’d argue almost a safety thing after working on a hot job site want to be cooler and alert driving. Still blows my mind UPS has no ac, I know a driver in Naples, Fl and his truck hits 110 easy in the summer. Drink pedialite etc because he sweats so much out…

Last edited 3 months ago by Top Dead Center
Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
2 months ago

I believe A/C is needed to meet MVSS for windshield defrosting/defogging in cool, humid weather. A/C dries out the air & the heater warms it up.

My notably frugal parents always bought cars with the heater (optional in the 40s-50s) because we lived in the Midwest/Great Plains. My late buddy’s folk bought station wagons sans heater because they lived just south of San Francisco. You know, “California is so miles, you don’t need a heater”.

Rippstik
Rippstik
3 months ago

I am glad that you are singing the praises of the base model.

I often notice that OEM’s often hand out top-trim or loaded press loaners to the automotive press, and it seems to make some reviewers a bit used to the super nice cars. Realistically, this truck has just about anything one could need (minus a back seat) with standard features like a large screen (with Carplay), back up camera, blind spot monitor, etc. In this day and age, simplicity is a huge selling point.

Before anyone complains about the price, Ford dealers often knock huge amounts off the MSRP of these bad boys. Also, there aren’t many other vehicles that one can drive without a CDL that have the same capabilities.

I also love loaded XL’s. This particular spec seems perfect for a rancher or Forest Service/Game and Fish dept.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
3 months ago
Reply to  Rippstik

I believe anyone can go to a dealer and buy any pickup and legally drive it without a CDL. Heck I used to drive a 24 foot Ford Box truck no CDL, Anyone with a regular license can not only rent a larger Uhaul but also buy a 40 foot RV and drive without a CDL. JUST SAYING

Last edited 3 months ago by 1978fiatspyderfan
Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
3 months ago

Most cmv enforcement could care less about non commercial vehicles.

Sackofcheese
Sackofcheese
3 months ago
Reply to  Rippstik

The Forest Service gets these trucks in F350 Crew Cab Gasser spec. I used to build these and seeing that green roll down the line was always a treat.

Last edited 3 months ago by Sackofcheese

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