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I Drove A Traded-In Jeep Patriot. It Doesn’t Suck Nearly As Much As They Say

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If a bear relieves itself in the woods but there’s nobody there to see it, did it really happen? If a tree falls in the forest but there’s simply nobody around to witness the glory of nature at work, are we still gonna believe it happened? And if David Tracy is out on vacation and we need to film a video that week, does Griffin Riley take over?

The answer is yes. At least to the last one, because I need to actually see the bear lose a couple of pounds in the confines of his arboreal home, and because I don’t believe in trees. But when David was treating himself to a well-earned vacation a few weeks ago, I got behind the wheel of a truly generational vehicle that I’m so grateful I had the opportunity to drive.

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I ain’t finna hold you on this one any longer; this shit was gas. [Ed Note: I cannot legally delete that since he’s Gen Z and I don’t want him to call me “Unc.” -DT]. The beautiful machine I drove for this week’s Trade-In Tuesday is the incomparable FCA flagship:thea 2011 Jeep Patriot. Do people like Dave think that it’s a big middle finger that spits in the face of the seven-slotted brand’s lineage as a rugged off-road brand? Yes. But I’m here to tell you that he’s wrong and a FOOL. And I hope he doesn’t fire me.

Why It Should Be Bad

News flash! The Jeep brand is synonymous with and probably the gold standard in outdoorsy automotive ambition, which is why someone like David loathes the Patriot so much.

I’m a fraction of the off-roader DT is, and less than 1% of the engineer that he is as well (although I was the lead programmer in my elementary school’s robotics team and we went to nationals thanks to my programming, nbd) [Ed Note: Griffin must be a member of the 18th Royal Navy, because I’m impressed. -DT].

That’s all to say that I am nowhere near as qualified to speak about everything that makes the perfect off-roader, but I did tighten a few bolts on his WWII Jeep and, if nothing else, I filmed and edited him talking about these things for months at a time, and I think some of his knowledge has rubbed off on me. So here’s what’s important here:

  • Geometry. If you have a bad approach and departure angle, there’s no world where you can meaningfully hit the more rugged terrain that you’ll find in nature.
  • Suspension. Part of the beauty of a Jeep is its solid front axle that flexes all damn day to guarantee you have insane amounts of traction on the aforementioned rough spots. Since there’s a straight line connecting your tires from left to right, if you hit a big rock on the driver’s side, the passenger side is mechanically forced to go further down, giving you more traction in the process. [Here’s a detailed description of solid axles vs independent suspension. -DT]
  • Drivetrain and its orientation. There are arguments for and against FWD vs RWD in a vehicle, and obviously Four Wheel Drive is very much the gold standard when you’re really getting after it on the trails, AND you’d ideally have a low-range gearbox that allows you to aggressively crawl up the steeper obstacles.

The Patriot has none of that. Just take it from David when I told him one was available to film.

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[Ed Note: Three things: Sorry about the “it’s” typo. To my parents-in-law, the blurred part may look like a bad word bit it’s actually “gosh darn,” and I didn’t realize this was a 2011. That changes a lot; Fiat came in and in 2011 fixed almost all the interiors. -DT].

So with the Patriot refusing to check the boxes of anything and everything that makes a Jeep a Jeep, it’s gotta be a pretty bad car, right?

It Honestly Wasn’t

I wasn’t in the room while the boys from Belvidere were developing this, so I don’t know what conversations they were having about it. That being said, I’m fairly confident they didn’t build the Patriot with the intention of it being an off-roader for the ages. I’d venture to say that they built something that’s an inexpensive, efficient road car first and that everything else came later, and I’m not mad at that. Especially since it came out just before the Global Financial Crisis.

In so many ways, the car reminded me of the 2005 Scion xB that I had as my first car. In terms of dimensions, the Patriot is roughly 20 inches longer than an xB, but one thing that always shocked people when they hopped in the Scion is how commodious it is in the interior, and the Patriot was no different. The Scion is 64.6” tall, and the Patriot is 66.8” tall; I’m a bigger guy standing at 6’2” and had no shortage of headroom in either.

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The interior of the car was nothing to write home about, but was anything at the time? The Scion’s was middling, my Corvette’s is basically just a reskinned Suburban interior, so is my ‘04 Wrangler’s. To belabor a car of that era for having a bad interior makes me think you’re the same kind of person to be angry that there’s sand at a beach. But if you lower your standards and meet the car where it’s at? It’s totally fine!

[Ed Note: Again, this being a 2009+, and especially a 2011+ model is key! Here’s what the OG Patriot’s interior looked like:

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And here’s the refreshed 2011 like the one Griffin drove:

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Image: Stellantis

Griffin’s point about all interiors not being particularly amazing back in the day is fair. -DT]. 

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My interior once again, which is simply flawless. Simple, no frills, just car. Credit: author

Without a doubt, the CVT is a bummer, and the Patriot doesn’t have an engine worth a damn either. They shipped with either a 2.0L or 2.4L World engine, with the former offering 158 hp and 141 lb⋅ft of torque and the 2.4 offering 172 hp and 165 lb-ft of torque, and it felt horrible. At several moments, I wanted to see what the engine had in store for me, and I floored it, and it demonstrated a pace similar to that of the Himalayas’ growth or the shifting of the world’s tectonic plates. The car went nowhere.

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Our model, which was traded in to our lovely team at Galpin Honda, was a two-wheel drive model based on the lack of any kind of 4×4 badging and no dial or second shifter to activate the Four Wheel Drive mode and its simulated low range gearbox (it doesn’t have a real low-range). How would that perform off-road? Probably very poorly if our experience off-roading the Crosscab is any indication, but does that matter? No. and here’s why:

Nobody Off-Roads.

I grew up off-roading my whole life in everything from go-karts to full-size side-by-sides to trucks and SUVs. I have a Jeep of my own that’s seriously well built, sitting on 33s with a decent lift kit, a winch, a hi-lift jack, and plenty of other things ready to take me to the middle of nowhere at a moment’s notice. And it hasn’t seen a trail in nearly a year.

All over California, I see Wranglers that look like they just got out of a car wash and that have spotless paint that’s never been pinstriped in its life. They’re so not into the Jeep world that they don’t even have the courtesy to initiate OR return the so deeply cherished, traditional Jeep wave. And while some of them have co-opted our silly token of appreciation and they have ducks on their dashboard, I’m just about positive they didn’t get them from someone while on the trail. My ducks? They’re dirty.My Jeep Image

I’m not saying that to attack the people who don’t get after it in their cars, because that’s just normal, especially in a city like Los Angeles. When it takes me 40 minutes to go roughly ten miles to work, it becomes really hard to justify spending hours to go less than 50 miles away from home base in hopes of being on the dirt. And on the flip side, I don’t take my Corvette to the track, either! It’s just not how we are. And it’s just not what the Patriot is.

If you approach the Patriot expecting it to be a worthy contemporary to the Wranglers and XJs of yesteryear, you’re gonna be incredibly disappointed, and you might be named David Tracy. But if everything were made for David, we’d live in a world of tiny German range-extended vehicles that share the road with rusty shitboxes that you’d break your body fixing every day after a trip to the junkyard.

David and others like him are not the mean buyer, and certainly not the mean wrencher, and I feel like the Patriot knows that. Most people just need a cheap car that’ll get them to and from work, and this is gonna do it no problem. This was definitely a cheap poverty spec model, with crap plastic everywhere, and next to no 12Vs to plug anything into, crank windows, and no power locks in the rear, but you can work with all that easily. The cloth seats didn’t wow me at all, but it’s not a luxury car where you’d expect heat, cooling, or massaging, and it’s not a sports car that demands insane bolstering.

[Ed Note: My problem with the Patriot and its Compass cousin is that they aren’t honest vehicles. You ever hear the expression “That old F-150 is an honest truck”? That means it is exactly what it looks like — a truckish hauler of big items. It doesn’t ride great, it doesn’t get amazing fuel economy, but it can haul an entire deck worth of 2x6s and it’ll never die. The Patriot isn’t a great street vehicle; it’s not particularly efficient; it doesn’t handle well; it’s not even that reliable (but it’s not terrible). It’s meant to look like an off-road vehicle without actually being one. It’s dishonest, and generally, I don’t like that trait in a car. The result in this case is a car that is cheap, efficient, and well-mannered for a Jeep. And that qualifier means it’s really not that great in the grand scheme of the market. With that said, not everyone wants to buy the objectively-best-vehicle, and I defend anyone’s right to want to buy an irrational car. -DT]. 

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No frills, no problem!
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Seriously though: tell your buddies in the second row to expect nothing.

Simply put, the Patriot is an inoffensive place to spend an hour of your time when you’re going to work. It won’t wow you; it won’t get you there fast, but it won’t disappoint you if you know what you’re getting into. No real off-roader would ever think about buying this thing to be a part of their fleet, but my mom might. And if she wants to go on a hike a bit deeper into the middle of nowhere, she puts that thing into Four Wheel Drive and hits the gravel road to her destination. She sure as shit won’t be doing anything that needs a low-range gearbox, I’ll tell you that much.

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I86hotdogs
I86hotdogs
1 month ago

I worked in the Belvidere plant back in 2015. They made the Compass, Patriot, and the Dart (in a separate wing of the building). I would never touch any of those vehicles after seeing what I saw in body-in-white. This was my first experience in a manufacturing plant, and it set the bar abhorrently low.

Blackhammer
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Blackhammer
1 month ago

Whilst I agree with David, I did enjoy reading your wrong take ????

World24
World24
1 month ago

The 2014+ models with the 6F24 are FAR better to live with…. Just ask me how I know!
Having owned my Compass for 8 years, I’ve been perfectly fine with it. Does just about everything I want it to do, and its biggest issues were either caused by detailers or the 8-year-old original battery dying randomly.
Do I think it’s that much of a Jeep? It’s got the badge, but I call it “The Lifted Caliber” for a reason.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago

The really bad thing is that FCA went one step further down the trail of degradation of the Jeep brand with the Renegade. That was peak corporate cynicism.

I’m not really a Jeep person. My wife and I owned a ’94 Jeep Grand Cherokee but that was because we had an impending child and my wife insisted on having, along with the pickles, an AWD SUV. It was a battle I chose not to fight, and the Ford Explorer we cross-shopped was worse to drive.

Jeff Jordan
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Jeff Jordan
1 month ago

My dad’s last car was a 2010 Patriot with the Freedom Drive II off-Road Package. It served him well on the forest roads and fire roads around Flagstaff, AZ for almost 10 years. He drove these routes regularly and did just fine. He was 80 years old when he bought this car and wouldn’t spend the money on a Wrangler. He was thrilled to be driving a Jeep.

Scott
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Scott
1 month ago

Thanks Griffin! 😀 I know you do a bunch of other stuff at the Autopian, but it’s nice to read your work too. 😉

I never drove a Patriot, but I have ridden in them, thanks to an ex-GF who now lives in Saten Island. I don’t like ’em, but they are cars, and will take you from point A to point B with some passengers and cargo, and that’s not nothin’. Also, when this one was new, it didn’t cost an insultingly inflated amount, like almost all new cars do now. So, that’s also another positive.

I did test drive a Renegade once, and I’d pretty much sum it up the same way: it wasn’t as awful as I’d heard or expected. It was almost a bit enjoyable (at least when still on the dealer’s lot, before depreciation and premature failures set in) with a slightly raised seating position and good (forward) visibility. Also, it was almost cheap at the time, so if you could put up with Jeep’s known handicaps and all the black plastic inside, you could do worse for basic transportation.

A car should car adequately, before aspiring to other, ‘extra’ qualities. 😉

CR-V Oswald
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CR-V Oswald
1 month ago
Reply to  Griffin Riley

Moar pls. It’s hard to keep up with all the content, but I always read your stories, with great delight.

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Lotsofchops
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Lotsofchops
1 month ago

The angry eyes man, I just can’t with Jeep people. Are they so afraid of their vehicle looking friendly? At least on the Patriot it seems semi-ironic, because no one thinks these are tough-guy cars.
Weirdly, despite my previous negativity, I find the rubber duck thing to be cute. Surprised it caught on but it’s so adorable and definitely unique to Jeeps (y’all stole the wave from us motorcyclists!)

Nycbjr
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Nycbjr
1 month ago
Reply to  Lotsofchops

I’m with ya, what screams I voted for DJT more than angry eyes!

Mopar4wd
Mopar4wd
1 month ago

Long ago when these were new there was an overlanding website (now gone), that had a patriot as a long term tester, the one that was trail rated with a lower geared CVT, brake-actuated traction control and few other things that were uncommon options.
The review was interesting; they did a thorough test off-road in overlanding-type conditions (read not rock crawling or mud bogging) and found it did really well. It also got better fuel mileage than basically any conventional offroader with a transfer case. Basically, they found for the way many people go off-road camping and traveling a patriot was actually pretty ideal, better mileage comfort and handling on the highway and pretty good offroad like a step or two above a outback etc.

I think that review made me respect them quite a bit and I have looked at them from time to time. if I could find one with the offroad package or a manual, I might still buy one some day.

Turbeaux
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Turbeaux
1 month ago

I almost bought one of these. I was young and dumb, and the government was handing out $4500 for old body style GMs. I decided against it and sold the truck a few years later to a friend for much less. But at least I kept it out of the crusher. Funny how today that truck would probably cost more than the Patriot.

Bill C
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Bill C
1 month ago

I kinda liked the Patriot. It’s heresy to the Jeepniks, but its most similar in proportions and form to the XJ. It does 98% of what typical Jeep buyers use their vehicles for, more sensibly. I wouldn’t dismissed a well-maintained, senior-owned one as a weekend utility vehicle or put some good tires on it if you live in a place that gets winter and want a winter car to not mess up your good car.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Here in the Midwest you see these (decreasing now they’re all 10 years old and not the most reliable) and Renegades everywhere. Having a cheap Jeep-shaped and badged thing that drives like a normal car is at least a big boon for Jeep sales numbers as there are tons of people who want the look but can’t tell/don’t care about the difference in capabilities. Also the Renegade is criminally under appreciated, I test drove a FWD stick once and it felt like a tall hot hatch tuned like a Miata, good fundamentals but more about fun than numbers.

Acd
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Acd
1 month ago

It isn’t as bad as people say, its worse. Enterprise stuck me in one of these hateful little machines for almost 2 months while my Volkswagen Passat was being repaired after an accident and it had no redeeming qualities. Absolutely miserable to drive in city traffic and even worse on the highway, it bobs and pitches over potholes while the cvt transmission does its best to suck the life out of the engine. But at least it got lousy gas mileage while delivering virtually no power. Complete piece of crap.

Mighty Bagel
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Mighty Bagel
1 month ago

Wasn’t this the vehicle that Car & Driver upon reviewing called, “a box of automotive sadness.”

My daughters boyfriend had one for a few months, it was a family hand-me-down car. It was already on it’s 2nd transmission at 95k. On a trip to Maine the transmission failed for the 3rd on the Maine Turnpike and had to be towed home. And yes, the fluid was changed though I don’t recall the intervals. It went away shortly after that and wasn’t missed at all.

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Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

The FCA interiors made this, and most of the other relatively bad Chryslers of the day, livable. I agree with DT that the original interior of the Patriot/Compass were an embarrassment.

These, as well as the Suzuki SX4, were immensely popular in my corner of upstate NY for being cheap AWD vehicles. You didn’t have to worry about even seeing a FWD example up here, as no dealer would dare bother to stock one. Once the interior was updated, it wasn’t a horrible value proposition in that it was about all the vehicle you actually needed up here. And it was far, far more economical and ergonomically sound than the last Liberty, which was truly a miserable vehicle.

The trick with these is to find a base model with a 5 speed and AWD, or, ironically, one with the Hyundai sourced 6 speed auto. The CVT, which is probably the most common transmission in these, does in fact, suck.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

“And it was far, far more economical and ergonomically sound than the last Liberty, which was truly a miserable vehicle”

Yeah, that one was a real piece of garbage. If you really needed the cheapest BOF off-roader with low range gearing, it did that. But it was a nasty little covered wagon on the road.

Regarding the Patriot, for me it had the chance to be a great little niche off roader. The clearances and approach angles are good for a crossover, but the only way you could get one with a “low-range” gearing was that CVT (they equipped it with a lower crawl ratio). In that trim, the mpg went from not great to really not great, and who is going to trust the CVT when being worked hard off pavement?

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Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
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It’s the only vehicle that I’ve ever driven where the center stack obstructed a natural placement of your right leg to get your right foot on the accelerator.

Hilariously unreliable (this area was lousy with them and sold well to the very end of it’s run, yet they all disappeared 5 years ago) assembled poorly with an interior that made the Cozy Couple seem like a luxury car.

I can’t comment on it’s capability as I’ve literally never seen one off road, lol.

Beasy Mist
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Beasy Mist
1 month ago

My mom had one, a lease thank god, and even she didn’t like it much. And for her as long as it sort of looks cool, An Car will do the job.

Bill C
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Bill C
1 month ago

The FCA interior re-do of the 200 sedan was downright impressive. It elevated the 300 too.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill C

They did a great job considering what they had to work with lol.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

A friend has one of these, AWD with, I believe, a 6spd auto. He’s getting near the 200K mark and it’s been pretty good for him. It’s slowish, not great on gas, the interior is budget, and somehow feels strangely cramped for the size.

One thing I will give it, and it’s something that Subaru has never been able to figure out: the approach angle is excellent for a transverse platform and it makes a big difference when light off-roading. He was able to get it across a few weird steep washouts on a camping trip that would have bent up the lower front fascia of an Outback

Mikkeli
Mikkeli
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

bad approach and departure angles are the bane of soft roading. I almost never need a low crawler gear, but I do need something better than 23 degrees.

RC
RC
1 month ago

All over California, I see Wranglers that look like they just got out of a car wash and that have spotless paint that’s never been pinstriped in its life. They’re so not into the Jeep world that they don’t even have the courtesy to initiate OR return the so deeply cherished, traditional Jeep wave.

Two things can be simultaneously true, to wit:

  • Posers are gonna pose; and
  • Diluting brand value to accommodate the posers is generally bad for the brand

Like, Red Bull makes drinks. They also sponsor people doing legitimately insane things on bikes, rockets, cars, and ropes. If Red Bull started sponsoring spelling bees or scrabble competitions, I’d probably be mildly entertained, but I don’t think anyone is going to be reaching into the cooler for a Red Bull to help supercharge a scrabble comp. And I say that as someone who resolutely likes Scrabble!

Likewise, the real Wrangler enthusiasts – the ones who will continue to discuss Jeep geometry and functionality even as 4Runners zip by them as they desperately wait for yet another recall notice to finish populating on their infotainment screen – will see dilution as problematic. Money spent on Patriot/Liberty/Compass/”slightly tall sedan” engineering does not trickle down in any way to Wrangler owners. It may, I can guess, cause them to think that Jeep is pursuing a different target market that is not them, and perhaps their money might be spent on the offroading products made by Toyota or Nissan.

And, worth noting in finality, almost every label has an Old Navy/GAP/Banana Republic or Chevy/Cadillac concept. You start somewhere in the brand, and then work your way up or down it. As Jeep discovered to their lament, there is almost no upwards or downwards mobility in the Jeep brand. Jeep enthusiasts buy Wranglers. That’s it. Everyone else is purchasers of convenience; the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer/Jeep Wagoneer/ Whatever We Call the Wagon This Week crowd was not former Wrangler owners, and were not likely to have another Jeep at home.

So, yes – the Liberty is offensive. Considering the thousand man-years of MBA talent that went into making it while both being awful and violating every marketing and customer loyalty principle known to man, you should be offended too.

Slower Louder
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Slower Louder
1 month ago

1. Nice article, Griffin.
2. Who’s the old guy who busts in every third paragraph to yell at clouds?
3. I’m offering real cash money if I get to see a vid of you calling DT “Unc.”

Slower Louder
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Slower Louder
1 month ago
Reply to  Griffin Riley

Not completely sure why that makes me laugh so much. I’m glad you make him feel loved.

Theotherotter
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Theotherotter
1 month ago

I worked on these at Chrysler when they first came out. My last memory of one is of an MK74 with the 2.4 and a 5-speed. To drive, it was fine. The manual made it much, much better than with the CVT. The interiors were absolute trash. But I don’t think they’re so dishonest as David does. These were momblobs before they were blobs – momboxes, maybe? They were relatively attractive, and better looking than the Compass, and did what they were meant for (commuting) well enough.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  Theotherotter

Can a trans change really make a car “much, much better?” I’ve driven some sad vehicles, and adding a manual just meant it was a sad vehicle with a manual vs a sad vehicle with a slushbox/CVT/whatever. I find it hard to believe that would suddenly make it worth driving.

Clark B
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Clark B
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

I drove a friend’s CVT equipped Impreza hatchback a while back, and a manual definitely would have improved it. The rest of the driving experience was just fine, but the CVT sucked all the fun out of that car.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  Clark B

Maybe. But a boring car isn’t necessarily a bad car, it’s just boring. And there’s no guarantee the manual will be one worth using.

FWIW, I think CVTs are fantastic choices for daily drivers. We have a ’21 Outback and it’s perfectly fine.

Theotherotter
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Theotherotter
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

It was definitely much better to drive. Maybe even much, much! a PM/MK with a 2.4 and a manual was a good-enough small car with a garbage interior. The same with the CVT was not good-enough.

Tj1977
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Tj1977
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

Absolutely. Add a set of black steelies and a sad vehicle can almost be made good.

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