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Important Car Design Conundrum: Has The Z-Shaped D-Pillar Ever Worked?

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I feel like in automotive designs, there’s a number of design elements that seem like they get tried numerous times before they actually work. Like the full-width light bar look for headlights and taillights; Cars like the Mercury Sable tried it, but it’s only fairly recently that such elements are becoming successful and even commonplace. There’s one example of a design element that I actually like, but I’m not sure if it’s ever actually, really worked on anything: the Z-shaped D-pillar.

The design itself I think is conceptually compelling: On a wagon-like vehicle, the D-pillar, right behind the second-row side window, is angled rearwards to such a degree that a traditional, visible and upright D-pillar is rendered unnecessary. Instead, the back window wraps around to the side, creating something that looks rakish and sleek. Or, at least it should, but the problem is that I’m not sure I’ve ever really seen it executed just right.

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In fact, I think the car that uses this in the most obvious way might just also happen to be the most unanimously-agreed ugly-ass car ever: the SsangYong Rodius:

Rodius

I’ve highlighted the Z-pillar section in red, but really I should probably have made the whole background of this page vivid, angry red as a warning that I’d be posting pictures of a Rodius on it. Maybe it’s better from the back?

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(Spit take entire mason jar of You-Hoo and gin) Oh god, no, it isn’t. Damn. I should have warned you. And me.

Luckily, there’s another very textbook example of this that’s better, and it’s actually the car that got me thinking about all of this, which I saw on a Copenhagen street:

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That’s a Mercedes-Benz A-Class (W168) and while I know this design was extremely polarizing, I like how the Z-Pillar rear is handled here.

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Even here, though, the design is quite unusual, which is why I’m still not sure this counts as being really successful, because I think I’d need to see it working well on a more mainstream-style and proportioned car. The Chrysler Pacifica minivan flirts with the Z-Pillar, as does the Chevy Equinox, with a forward rake to the diagonal bar, like the Rodius:

Pacifica Equinox

I’m just not sure if either of these really lean into the design enough to qualify, or, even if we say they count, are they doing enough with it? Or is it diluted here to the point where it no longer matters?

There’s other cars with diagonal C- or even D-pillars, like the Range Rover Freelander (but does the fact that the rear is a removable roof make it not count? And it has a D-pillar, even if it’s blacked out) or the Nissan Pathfinder or Pulsar NX Sportbak, but neither of them had the wraparound rear glass that’s needed to be a true Z-Pillar.

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So my questions remain: has any car ever truly done a Z-Pillar the right way, and if not, is such a thing even possible?

For whatever reason, I think it has to be. There’s something fun and dramatic about the look, and I feel like, with enough concerted effort from the automotive design community, it could be done justice. I mean, it can hardly get any worse, right?

 

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Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
2 years ago

There’s the Seat Toledo Mk3, but I’m not sure it succeeds in, uh, anything it intends to, anyway. No one needed an Altea XL that looked like a Vel Satis.

https://parkers-images.bauersecure.com/gallery-image/wp-images/3570/driving-moving-exterior/1752×1168/020h.jpg

JDE
JDE
2 years ago

I like it in the 1957 Rambler wagons

SlowCarFast
SlowCarFast
2 years ago
Darin Eades
Darin Eades
2 years ago

“…the most unanimously-agreed ugly-ass car ever” ha! Hold my beer says the Fiat Multipla!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fiat_Multipla_%282002%29_%2829392161886%29.jpg

Nate Stanley
Nate Stanley
2 years ago
Reply to  Darin Eades

We might have the beginnings of the Z pillar right here. Superior ambulance on a 1959 Cadillac chassis.

http://www.maronline.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/caddy-superior-ambulance-1959.jpg

I remember these when I was a kid, thought they were cool ever since.

John Patson
John Patson
2 years ago
Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 years ago

The Pacifica has a totally normal pillar, they just cover part of it with black plastic cladding

-Tom-
-Tom-
2 years ago

I think on a more upright vehicle how the A class handled it is perfect, the rear door glass and 3/4 glass need to sweep upwards, otherwise it looks frumpy.

On a more flattened squat vehicle, it can go the other way. A good example would be the Mercedes CLA Shooting Brake.

BolognaBurrito
BolognaBurrito
2 years ago

If you’re going to ask us questions like this, you’ve got to let us post pictures in comments…

EssExTee
EssExTee
2 years ago

While it’s a coupe and not a wagon/box, the Opel Tigra flirts with the look a bit and sort of pulls it off.

Tom Tokugawa
Tom Tokugawa
2 years ago

The mistake is to judge the Rodius by car standards.
It’s a yacht.

https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/videos/image/dsc_7388.jpg

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Slimer
Slimer
2 years ago

First Generation Toyota Sequoia

Civic Boy
Civic Boy
2 years ago

Honda civic Aerodeck kinda managed it not too badly https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/models/HONDA_Civic-Aero-Deck-1998_main.jpg

Also it had roof speakers. A weird place for speakers.

Adam Rice
Adam Rice
2 years ago

Oh, and surely the late-70s Ford Thunderbirds (and Futuras) deserve to be mentioned if we’re talking about forward-raked pillars (maybe we should call those S pillars).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Thunderbird_%28seventh_generation%29#/media/File:1977_Ford_Thunderbird_at_Belmont,_front_left.jpg

Jonkis
Jonkis
2 years ago

The Impreza and WRX wagons don’t look like a Z though: rather the pillar is thinnest in the middle, then both the top and the bottom are wider towards both the front and the rear, with the center of the pillar in the middle (not going to one end or the other). The pinched design is a bit weird, but even the newest Imprezas have great visibility due to the rear window extending so far back.

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2 years ago

Subaru Impreza, particularly in its Saab 9-2x guise, works just fine.

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Idle Sentiments
Idle Sentiments
2 years ago

A “Z pillar” should only exist on a limousine with at least 52 usable doors.
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The Clutch Rider
The Clutch Rider
2 years ago

it looks fine. In the case of the rodius, the problem is the character line and anything below it.

Idle Sentiments
Idle Sentiments
2 years ago

“The Z pillar? That’s waaaay back there.”
Said the driver of the longest car ever.

SlowCarFast
SlowCarFast
2 years ago

LOL! That just snuck up on me. Not quite a joke grenade, as it only took me a couple of seconds.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
2 years ago

All Z pillars are ugly. But not quite as offensive as the fake windows that are just tinted glass over metal. Heavily tinted windows are no longer optional because the windows are so hideously ugly.

Dave Horchak
Dave Horchak
2 years ago

I don’t think the sharp corners of a Z pillar work with rounded edges or rounded rear. A Volvo Wagon or a SUV with a raked out top slowly coming back in as it descends would match up better. Not sure if its been tried as that top being out further look has dissapeared before SUVs.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
2 years ago

I don’t know if it counts because it was removable, but my brain went to the Nissan Pulsar NX with the station wagon roof option installed. It looks pretty good imho.

Cristian Minciu
Cristian Minciu
2 years ago

I think it works best when there is not a lot of emphasize on the “Z”. Designers try to make the “Z” as the lone standout feature of a car, and it just messes up the lines. Take a look at a Opel Rekord P1 with one tone color. The “Z” is there, but just another nice detail amongst others. If you put the “Z” on an estate car, it will invariably be bigger and feel out of place. Somehow, that A-class works very well though.

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