You know how there are many kinds of things? As in, there’s a thing, and there are other kinds of that thing? You know, like how there’s Sopressata salami and Felino salami? Well, that concept applies to things other than salami, if you can believe it. Like cars, which you can think of as a sort of salami of transportation. Well, among cars are convertibles, and among convertibles are a peculiar subset that look like that Opel one up there. Does this sort of convertible have a name? I’m not so sure it does. Maybe we should give it one, right now. Or at least after you finish your salami.
Here’s a few other examples of these sorts of convertibles, raging from Morris Minors to the fairly recent Fiat 500c, Crosleys, and interestingly, the Citroën Pluriel, which has removable side arches that can be removed, making it perhaps the only convertible that can transition from the “normal” type to the type I’m talking about, almost like a Genoa salami that can transform, via dark magik, into pepperoni.
The difference in this type of convertible is the existence of either window frames on the doors or roof rails at each side. In these convertibles, when the top is down, there is still upper structure on the sides of the car, above the beltline. With all windows down, the effect is pretty close to a full convertible, but not quite; it’s a bit less open, and there’s still some sense of being “inside” even though it’s mostly open. Kind of like a roofless sukkah, perhaps made of cotto salami.
I think maybe we could call these framed convertibles, or perhaps fenced convertibles. I’m open to other ideas, though! Playpen convertibles? Rolltops? Bordered convertibles?
I’d love to hear your ideas!
For the dragons snacking accessibility!
As in “I love these pop-tops, it’s so easy to get to the salami filled squishy treats”
So how do Jeep Wranglers fit? Does the roll bar count as the window frames? The new JL PowerTop definitely qualifies, as do those older Liberties, but what’s the rollbar if it’s not the window frame? Does that get classified as rollover hoops like on a TT convertible?
Lete de chute avec cadre….of course, everyone knows that.
The Germans call this bodystyle as “Cabriolimousine”. Apparently, there’s the word “cabrio coach” in English or “semi-convertible” – if we can trust Wikipedia.
How about a tonsure convertible? Its the bald spot on a monk.
BMW had a version of the E30, modified by Bauer, sold through dealerships called the Bauer Topcabriolet.
Yes, it’s called a cabriocoach (or maybe it’s in two words, but sounds the same…)
My Figaro is one of these. So were my 2 Citroën 2CVs.
I quite like them compared to the many open cars, I’ve owned (Spitfire, Fiat Spider, Alfa Spider, etc.) as the wind blows over your head and not su much around your head. You still get plenty of air and nature smells in.
If you really need the air blowing all around you, just roll down the windows as well.
The Figaro has a really great heater, so unless it rains or snows or hails, I drive it open all year.
My 2CV had a fixed rear window, so I always thought of it as having a massive sunroof rather than being a convertible/cabrio-coach.
Yes, I agree the borders between this and that definition are a bit floaty…
The 2CV had that round roofline, so the rolled down fabric was quite a bit lower than the top of the roofline, so it felt cabrio-coachy to drive it open.
The Dyane had a flat roof, with the same system, and the rear window was in the hatch and not the roof fabric, so it was more of a ragtop, like on the VW Beetle.
Doh! It’s right there on the first Opel picture.
Vertical on the right and so big you don’t see it at first
(you’re excused, neither did I)
Also, could we talk about the Triumph Stag?
My face always get all weird looking, when people call that a convertible.
The original Lotus Elan was a roadster with a top that folded all the way down and frameless side windows. Later, the Series 3 version had non-retractable metal window frames which spoiled the look considerably. Still, I would love an Elan of any vintage.
A landaulet can have that kind of roof, or fully convertible, over the rear seats, but has a solid roof over the driver. Usually seen on exclusive royal limousines and such.
You left out my favorite of the genre, the 1949-51 Four Door Kaiser Virginian / Frazer Manhattan 4 door convertible sedans, with fixed chrome window frames including a tiny B-Pillar window.
Aren’t these called a landaulet?
I always called them Venetian Blinds.
Surprised Mercedes hasn’t chimed in with the Smart fortwo cabrio, with the removeable door frame tops. And these types of configurations clearly need to referred to as Convertishables.
So we aren’t using the old distinctions here?
Convertible: comes with a removable or retractable hard-top (with or without a soft-top as well);
Drop-top: retractable or folding hard- or soft-top;
Rag-top: fabric, either drop-top (Miata) or partially retractable/rollable/foldable (2CV, Fiat 550c);
Roadster: wear a hat.
But none of those names are specific. This is a convertible, and a rag-top. But so is a Miata and these work very different than those. What would the specific name for this type of ragtop?
Moreover, a ‘ragtop’ Beetle isn’t a convertible – it’s a factory sedan with a large opening canvas roof. Unlike these ‘cabrio-coaches’, those ragtops even retain the fixed rear window!