If politics makes strange bedfellows, then surely trade policy creates its own weird pairings. Restrictions to market access in the form of tariffs and other levies have given a unique advantage to those with production capacity in the United States. Unsurprisingly, Stellantis continues to be the most polyamorous of automakers.
The Morning Dump is starting off with a stretch, albeit a small one. JLR and Stellantis have signed a deal to discuss co-developing cars in the US, giving the former access to un-tariffed production. Stellantis has also started a JV with Chinese automaker Dongfeng, which will help Stellantis use its underutilized factories in Europe.
Not like having a factory is easy. In South Texas, an independent analysis claims to have found potentially carcinogenic chemicals in a drainage ditch used by Tesla’s battery facility. In Hungary, a new government has found that BYD might have transported toxic soil against regulations in the building of its factory there.
Can’t life just be easier? Perhaps it will be one day. “Hey, Google, can I park here?” is the question you might be asking your Volvo soon to help make parking simpler.
Stellantis And JLR Sign An MOU for US Something, Something
Stellantis has to convince investors it continues to be a good bet after all the, you know, Carlos Tavares (not pictured) drama. It’s going to be a tough market for cars, and the timing of the turnaround is bad, so one way to cover for this is to help show that the company can make deals to help use all of its plants and lower its development costs.
Let’s start with the big one, via Bloomberg:
Stellantis NV plans to develop cars with Jaguar Land Rover in the US, the latest step in a deep overhaul for the maker of Jeep sport utility vehicles and Ram trucks.
Both companies will explore opportunities to collaborate on product development in the country, they said Wednesday. It’s the first deal Stellantis Chief Executive Officer Antonio Filosa is striking in the US, a lucrative market the company is prioritizing.
But why, tho?
The latest deal may eventually give JLR, which is owned by India’s Tata Motors Passenger Vehicles Ltd., access to Stellantis factories in the US. That would allow the British luxury-car maker to sidestep import tariffs in its largest market.
Neither JLR nor Stellantis are commenting further, but it makes a lot of sense. The UK has a decent trade agreement with the United States, but if Land Rover wants to expand its product lineup it’s going to have to find somewhere to build more cars and who knows where else is going to work. With the US being a huge market for JLR it is logical to do something here, and not having to develop an entirely new facility makes sense.
Could we get the return of the Freelander? Could Discovery production move here on a platform shared with Jeep? Is this just about powertrains? It’s not clear that Stellantis or JLR even have an answer these questions. Of all the brands, though, it seems like Jeep maybe has the most potential capacity. Could Warren–which builds the Jeep Grand Wagoneer–be used to also make Discoveries?
Over in Europe, Stellantis is tying up with Chinese automaker Dongfeng, as Reuters reports:
Stellantis NV and China’s Dongfeng plan to form a joint venture in Europe, including potential production in France, the companies said on Wednesday, offering another glimpse into the French-Italian automaker’s longer-term strategy.
The two groups signed a preliminary agreement that will cover sales and distribution, manufacturing, purchasing and engineering activities focused on Dongfeng’s new energy vehicles. The JV will be owned 51% by Stellantis and 49% by Dongfeng.
Huh. Stellantis has a JV with Leapmotor to build small EVs in Europe, right? Dongfeng has a deal to make Nissan products. Everyone is in bed with everyone until all of this gets worked out, I guess.
Tesla And The Drainage Ditch
The rendering above of Tesla’s Lithium Refinery in the far western suburbs of Corpus Christi hits me hard. That’s where I’m from. That’s where I have my first memories. That endless, low sky and corn tortilla flat plain is forever the landscape of my mind.
When I heard that Tesla was opening up a facility to source lithium down there I thought it was generally not a bad thing. South Texas is almost indefinitely short on industry and the US is desperately behind in producing both the anode and cathode precursors necessary for modern battery manufacturing.
The situation in Corpus is quite desperate as they’re running out of water, which is a thing necessary to keep people alive. Some of this is just drought and some of it, maybe, is data centers. Either way, it’s bad. Water is precious, as you need water to make the aforementioned tortillas.
So this, via the Texas Tribune, ain’t great:
After Texas regulators said Tesla’s lithium refinery near Corpus Christi wasn’t violating its permits by discharging what local officials reported as black wastewater into a drainage ditch, independent water testing there this month found two toxic metals and other contaminants.
Eurofins Environment Testing, an accredited lab with locations across the globe, reported traces of hexavalent chromium, a well-known carcinogen, and arsenic, an environmental poison. Nueces County Drainage District No. 2, which manages the ditch, commissioned the test.
Neither hexavalent chromium nor arsenic is included as an allowable discharge pollutant in Tesla’s wastewater permit.
The Nueces County Drainage District No. 2 sent a cease and desist letter to the company, though so far nothing has changed and the state agency responsible for monitoring this sort of thing hasn’t done anything. Here’s a line that’ll make you less nostalgic:
Nueces County groundwater is known to contain some arsenic, said Chris Cuellar, a retired chemical plant worker who spent 10 years managing wastewater operations at one of the region’s largest industrial facilities. Eurofins tested the wastewater from the ditch, rather than from Tesla’s outfall pipe, so it’s possible there was residual arsenic from a nearby pond overflow that leached into the ditch, for example, rather than coming from the industrial process itself, Cuellar said.
Yikes. Lithium production is incredibly important and in a normal place, various agencies would investigate it, figure out what’s going on, and then the company would mitigate the issue if one existed. Something like this happens with basically every car-related manufacturing facility at some point.
Texas isn’t a normal place politically speaking and Tesla in general is averse to doing things the regular way. How this gets resolved, or if this gets resolved, is unclear, but Autonocion does frame the central question pretty well:
None of this is illegal as currently constituted, because the permit that was written does not require monitoring for the things the independent lab found.
What it should do, for any American driver whose next EV is going to be built around domestically refined lithium, is force a real conversation about what “clean lithium” actually means and who gets to define it.
Is Clean Lithium the new Clean Coal?
Hungarian Police Are Investigating BYD Over Environmental Issues
BYD is sure having a hard time building plants outside of China. In Brazil, the company got in a spot of bother of the implication that it was forcing people to work in terrible conditions. And now, in Hungary, the company is in trouble for potentially not following environmental regulations.
The probe relates to the movement of toxic soil from BYD’s construction site in the southern city of Szeged to an outside location, the police said in a statement on Wednesday, according to the MTI state news service.
The move suggests Prime Minister Peter Magyar’s administration is taking environmental concerns in the country’s burgeoning EV industry seriously after they were relegated under his predecessor Viktor Orban. Battery makers Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd. and Samsung SDI have also faced scrutiny.
The police action was announced a day after newly installed Environment Minister Laszlo Gajdos said BYD was in “serious breach” of its environmental permit and called on the company to “immediately stop” polluting activities. The new Hungarian government has vowed to make the enforcement of green regulations a priority for the EV industry.
Elections have consequences.
Google And Volvo Might Help You Park Your Car
Google had its big series of announcements this week, and most of it had to do with more AI. If you love AI and would like for more websites to die, this is great news for you (if you enjoy TMD, please become a member).
Volvo’s CEO mentioned in a chat earlier this week that I attended that he was looking forward to a new tool being announced by Google and Volvo that could, eventually, read road signs and help you figure out where you can park:
As part of a world first, Volvo Cars and Google will demonstrate Google Gemini vehicle camera integration in the EX60, at Google I/O conference (May 19-20). This paves the way for a future where, with the driver’s permission, Gemini will be able to see and understand its surroundings from the perspective of the car in real time.
This will enable a more helpful driving experience for things like recalling a road sign, making sense of lane markings or simply asking for more information about a landmark or a restaurant.
Take parking as an example. By reading and interpreting parking signs in real time, the system helps drivers quickly understand restrictions, time limits, permit requirements or charging rules. Instead of second-guessing whether a space is valid, drivers receive clear guidance exactly when and where they need it.
Who will be the first person to blame a parking ticket on AI? I can’t wait.
What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD
It’s Skin Cancer Awareness Month and our friends at XPEL are celebrating with National Don’t Fry Day, so I’m going to do a week of beach songs. Today, it’s Lana Del Rey’s cover of “Doin’ Time.”
Observed annually on the Friday before Memorial Day, National Don’t Fry Day raises awareness about the dangers of ultraviolet (UV) radiation and promotes sun-safe habits as Americans head into summer. In recognition of the occasion, XPEL is offering 15% off automotive window tint installations at participating authorized dealers and company-owned stores across the U.S. on May 22 only.
The Big Question
What should Land Rover build here next?
Top photo: Stellantis
It’s what Texans vote for, consistently, so my sympathies are limited. You don’t get to rail against regulations and then get made when there are no regs to protect you specifically.
Everyone loves profits. I love profits. Profits profits profits!
Doesn’t California have like, the largest hexavalent chromium waste plume in the country?
What should LR build here? Old school Defenders. 🙂
Astounding use of the Air Bud Defense, “The contract didn’t say we couldn’t dump these hazardous chemicals on the ground!”
We finally found out what pharmaceutical drug “Stellantis” actually is. Judging by their existing portfolio and what they’re about to add to it, it’s a laxative
I love that the AI is a smartass that thinks you’re lazy and/or stupid. “Based on the signs in front of you” lol
If only it started playing Ace of Base while it starts the parking maneuver.
The signs are in Swedish and the Google response in English, so I assume it’s a proposed use case if you’re in a foreign country. I won’t lie though, at first I thought the sign was AI-generated with gibberish text. Apologies to all the Swedish readers for that.
We went over this already, everyone should be building a badge engineered Geo Tracker.
Hexavalent Chromium in the ground water? Thank god it doesn’t affect the liver or kidneys. OH WAIT
I’m so goddamn sick of companies making us all goddamn sick from chemical contamination. As a cancer survivor, I take particular issue with it.
Finally, great song choice Matt. I love the macabre tone of Del Ray’s cover.
Lana is a gem.
Didn’t we already go down this path in the 60’s and 70’s with burning rivers, acid rain and unbreathable air? What a time to be alive!
It’s ok, I’m sure the EPA has an upper limit for it in drinking water separate from just Chromium itself. Right?
No, it doesn’t. But California does, at 10 ppb. Which this sample actually meets. So all the seething is coming from people who can’t math.
BUT ELECTRIC CARS HAVE NO POLUTION!!! /s lol
The big pollution story in my area recently is the discovery that parks and playgrounds built on top of landfills often have high concentrations of heavy metals in the soil. Wow, you don’t say!!! Some of these places were built way back in the ’40s or ’50s, but others date to a time when we really should have known better.
My hometown’s “ski hill”. Which is a perfect example of why I moved away long ago.
And no, I never went there.
Hah!
“Grand Rover”
The Land Rover prototype was built on a surplus Jeep chassis so, there is a bit of a full circle connection here.
Tesla is run by the Wizard of Odd. Stands to reason there’d also be a Wicked Ditch of the West, too.
And something about the lack of a heart and a brain, too.
“Pay no attention to the chemical contamination behind the curtain!”
And don’t forget the Grand Wizard instructing the employees to click their heels three times chanting “there’s no place like work, there’s no place like work, there’s no place like work”
We need an official corporate salute with that. Maybe some brown and black uniforms too.
Work sets you free.
Mein Führer, I can walk!
Stellantis-built Land Rovers? Gonna be the most reliable vehicles ever built! Toyota is certainly quaking in their boots! Right? Right?
Just think of how awesome it will be when JLR implements the 4XE tech into their vehicles. The second coming of Lucas Electric.
The prince of darkness would be repelled by the light and heat of the fire.
Who let the smoke out?
They can learn a lot from each other…Just think…an igenium-based 4xe system with built-in lifter tick, poorly engineered high-failure-rate cooling parts AND JLR shop rates! Orrr maybe a Hornet but with a LR badge so a few ticks more expensive. Sounds like great reinforcement not to step foot in a CJDR dealer again!
Two companies with terrible quality reputations, working together to build even worse SUVs. Sounds like a hit.
Cue the fratzonic noisemaker.
I sure hope you manage to feature Violent Femmes’ Blister In The Sun this week.
What should Land Rover build here next?
A Mahindra Roxor knockoff.
Bet!
Stellantis could do worse with a partner than JLR, they could borrow platforms from Fiat…
I mean, at least JLR knows how to make cars go off-road well.
What’s the saying? If you want to gonout into the bush, take a Land Rover.
If you want to come back, take a Land Cruiser.
“Found Off Road Dead” Oh, wait…
ah, hexavalent chromium. The same chemical PG&E got sued for.
Time to call in Erin Brockovich
Thank god it hasn’t been known to cause cancer in pretty much every industrial environment that uses it.
The Future’s So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades…
The chemical you haven’t been allowed to use in cars* in like 2 decades at this point.
* Banned by the EU, so the Big 3 also won’t let you use it in their cars. Maybe Teslas are built different, and by different I mean worse.
I guess if you’re not going to try to solve your dependability problem, you should focus on your tax problem.
“Take parking as an example. By reading and interpreting parking signs in real time, the system helps drivers quickly understand restrictions, time limits, permit requirements or charging rules.”
Or you could, I don’t know, READ THE SIGNS YOURSELF. I’ve just about hit my limit with companies trying to justify shoehornng AI into every single goddamn aspect of life.
More and more they show how useless the whole endeavor is. They are too far down the path to let up now, so they have to try and force it in everything to try and justify the fact that they will never recoup the cost of what they are spending already. It’s desperation and manipulation, and the moment someone dares regulate any of it, it will fall apart and hopefully take facebook and google and who ever else down with it.
I for one would like to live some of my adult life not in a mostly monopolized market that is manipulated to take my money out for things I don’t want anyway.
That’s just it, it’s not for us. We’re the product AI is trying to solve.
Normally I would agree, but in this case I’ve seen some pretty gnarly parking signs.
Yes, but figuring out those signs is an important part of having a functioning human brain. It’s all about problem-solving, and the continued infantilization of our culture is going to be more destructive, and more quickly at this rate, than whatever plague the 24-hour news machine is fobbing off on us this week.
Damn, it’s high up on this horse.
Continued infantilization is the goal. Reduce political campaigns to Idiocracy levels of lowest common denominator, obviously detrimental decisions no longer get questioned or protested, and the good little worker ants we are forget to breed our way right into voluntary extinction. Finally, the elites will have our planet to themselves without us using up their resources.
Yeah, song of the day should have been something from DEVO.
The Future Is A No Brainer.
Welcome to LA, you can’t park here.
That’s easy. Come to Sydney
Impressive.
I’d consider using the feature if it sounded more like this
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/10/you-cant-park-there-sir-filmer-says-to-man-who-crashed-his-peugeot/
There’s a fairly new one across the street from my house that says: “No Parking 10pm-6pm.” What the hell is that? You can’t park there at night, or during the day, but you can for a few hours in the evening? There never used to be restrictions there, and it would be rare for someone to park there ever, so the sign really vexes me. Maybe I’ll ask Google!
The sign is in Swedish and the Google text is in English, so my assumption is that it’s supposed to be useful when you’re traveling. But then that requires a car with this tech, and I don’t know if most rentals are that nice. Maybe you get lots of Volvo rentals in Sweden?
We gotta move the ads!
JLR and Jeep? The jokes write themselves…and I say that as someone who has owned multiple Jaguars and Land Rovers and at least one modern Jeep.
That’s one big chick. are you sure she doesn’t belong on Only Fanbelts ‘
I can read the signs by myself, if AI really wants to make itself useful it can figure out a way to tell me where the available parking spots are.
Alternatively, it could figure out a way to get Eldolf and his band of merry AI goose steppers off to Mars posthaste.
I thought it’d use sensors and cameras to see if your car can fit in the spot.
What is this new model called the Land Rover “Discovers” – new SUV destined to spread disease and war while claiming land for the mother country? Good luck with that JLR…
Are you thinking of the LandRover Colonizer, the Ram Smallpox 1500, or the Dodge Measles?
What should Land Rover build over here?
1994 Defender 110 because why not.
Realistically, probably their lower-end products where there isn’t as much margin and they cannot compete on price when tariffs are factored in. Definitely the Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque. If they can run separate lines to support transverse and longitude products, they ought to bring the Range Rover Velar and Discovery over here as well. And possibly even versions of the Defender (the modern L663, not the classic one that they legally cannot sell).
Meanwhile, buyers of the full-size Range Rover and, to a lesser extent, Range Rover Sport would probably just eat the tariff price increases to have the cars built in England.
Why can’t they legally sell them?
Just when you thought JLR’s quality couldn’t get worse, you go and say that it’s entirely possible under that alternate reality.
Should be plenty of capacity to build all sorts of variants of JLR 4xe vehicles, I’m sure nothing would go wrong with hacking that drivetrain into Defenders and Range Rovers and such.
Exactly what I was coming here to say about Jeep.
Jeep could get a PHEV drivetrain from JLR that is, somehow, more reliable and less likely to catch fire.
Made me think of this, except this is opposite…what the hell, let’s make this opposite day…we’re in an upside down world anyway ha ha…oh wait, that’s Australia
“Just when I think you couldn’t possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this… and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!”
Also: “I can get 70 miles to the gallon on this hog!”
Maybe it’s a case where two negatives make a positive.
Last time I checked, arsenic is poisonous regardless of whether it’s inside or outside the environment.
Funny that Texas wouldn’t take a position with a history of oil industry environmental impacts (which, likewise, they did little/nothing about).
Or, perhaps, we know all too well who’s waving dollars around.
No, you don’t understand. We towed it out of the environment
Very good, thanks for sharing!
Exactly
Modern BOF solid axle Land Rover 101FC hard sided overlanding truck. Let’s just ask for the most obtuse thing and hope.