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Here’s How I’d Use Bolt-Ons To Make The Slate Into Discovery-Style Seven Seater

Slate Rancho Topshot Pv

It’s been over fifteen minutes since we last wrote about the upcoming Slate truck. I don’t think that we can realistically continue today without another post on this bare-bones compact pickup that quickly escalated from “under $20,000” to now over $26,000 before local taxes.

We’ve seen all sorts of different variations of this much-hyped little truck, but there’s one rather simple-to-make version that I’d still love to see. The Slate is the ideal canvas for a tribute to one of our favorite old SUVs, a chance to recreate one of the first crossover “soft-roaders” with a painfully cool “tough” look. If you can give the Slate fifteen more minutes of fame, I promise you’ll dig this.

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A Slate Of Mind

By and large, The Internet seems to be neatly falling into one of two camps. There’s a rabid group of followers who buy into the whole no-paint-color-options austerity; people who are happy to see an “outsider” (Jeff Bezos?) giving buyers a screen-free driving experience that they claim the Big Three will forever refuse to do. On the opposite side are the rest of buyers who see the Slate as sort of cool, but a pretty poor value at $26,400 for a limited-range electric two-seater without paint options or basic equipment that even entry-level Korean crossovers have standard for thousands less.

Blank Slate Roller 1
Source: Slate

Unfortunately, I fall firmly into the latter category. I think the whole crank-window stripped-out novelty would be cool for ten minutes at $15,995 but not at the current price of nearly ten thousand more. To me (and many of our readers), $26,400 seems like a lot of money, and for that kind of cash a several-year-old CPO low-mileage Maverick or run-forever Tacoma feels like a far, far better deal on a Real Vehicle with the witchcraft of things like a radio and speakers. Honestly, in many ways the coolness of the whole Slate concept has less to do with the truck itself and more about the custom roof, accessory, and graphics packages that legacy automakers really should bring back themselves. Of course, add a bunch of these options to your Slate, and suddenly you have a “bargain basement car” approaching $40,000, especially when you add the enclosed cabin structure on back and try to make it more like a “normal” SUV.

Blank Slate Profile
Source: Slate

Recently, I tried to add a few more versions of this new pickup with some twists that might add a lot of extra value for not much extra cash. One was the Slate Caboom with a Datsun King Cab-style extended passenger compartment for more indoor storage space.

Slate Caboom 6 20 3
source: Slate

Another one that might be cost-effective and life-affirming to drive was a convertible “No Cap” kit to allow you to remove the roof and stow it in the bed.

Slate No Cap 6 12
source: Slate

However, there is one more version of the Slate that might be perfect. I’m talking about adding onto this little truck with some body panels that would almost certainly raise the price to far above the base sticker, but the end result would seem like more than the sum of its parts. If you could have passers-by ask if you’re driving a new Land Rover Discovery, then you’d appear to be money ahead in my book.

So many people seem to lament the passing of that particular tall-roofed British off roader, or at least the looks of it. Considering that these very often “fail to proceed” if you own one, you’ll get to look at it a whole lot.

Disco Breakdown 1
source: Rob Spiteri

Back in the seventies, hardly anyone in Europe could afford the Land Rover product they really wanted. That unrequited longing is the thinking behind the vehicle that inspired this special edition of the Slate that I’m about to scribble up.

Mucho Rancho

Oddly enough, there was something from decades before the Discovery that had a similar rough-and-tumble look to that Land Rover but, in reality, would take quite a tumble indeed if you introduced it to serious off-pavement antics: The 1977 to 1984 Matra Simca (later Talbot) Rancho.

Rancho 3 13
source: Matra

What a cool machine! It’s an Autopian favorite, and I’ve written about it before:

The Rancho could lay claim to being one of the first image-over-capabilities SUVs; it wasn’t even available with four-wheel drive. If it looks at first like a Simca 1100 driving out of a glass shed, that’s because it kind of is. The whole front section of this concoction is that old French compact, attached to the spacious, window covered boxy rear cabin.

Yes, if that front end looks incongruous yet familiar, it’s because it’s off of a popular Simca hatchback sedan:

Simca 1100 Luxe Super (139363962
source: Wikimedia/FaceMePLS

Matra was way ahead of their time in understanding that most people that were getting into things like Jeeps and Range Rovers would never go off road beyond putting a wheel onto the median now and then. It’s the look that matters, and things like hood mounted spotlights (that could only turn on with the car off), a mock push bar and rugged roof rack over the original Simca passenger compartment made this thing look like it was look like ready to drive the Darian Gap when in fact it was only capable of driving to The Gap, if the snow wasn’t more than a few inches.

That big boxy cabin in back was an ultra-spacious place to be, and you could even get it with a rear-facing seat to carry a total of six passengers.

Matra Rancho 3 11 B
source: Matra

Note that the four rear ones shared two headrests!

Matra Rancho Double Seats
source: Wikimedia/Keirant

So much space in the back of this thing:

Matra Simca Rancho 2
source: Matra

Besides being limited by only two drive wheels, there wasn’t an immense amount of power on tap, as I wrote about before:

With only 86 horsepower spinning the front wheels you’d better hope that some of those six possible passengers were pretty small. These things were supposedly popular in period as fashion items on the streets of Paris and London despite the limited overlanding abilities, a “bomber jacket” of a car

Wow, the little two-wheel-drive Slate is around the same size as the also two-wheel-drive Rancho, and the new EV truck has far more power than the old Matra. It might be considered a “stripped out” vehicle today, but the Slate’s got features like air conditioning, cruise control, and keyless power locks that the Rancho lacked and some luxury cars didn’t even have as standard in the Rancho’s days. We’ve gotta bring this back.

Slate Siete Por Favor

The Slate already offers Lego-like pieces to turn your pickup into an SUV with a rear enclosure and (notoriously difficult to access) rear seat, so to make a mock Rancho wouldn’t be tough with some different components. Here’s the stock SUV version below.

Stock Slate Suv 7 18
source: Slate

There are two things that would be different about this add-on compartment, though. We’d make it taller and longer to allow the space needed for backward-facing or sideways-facing jump seats in back. Now we have the Slate Siete (seven in Spanish). Extending the cargo cap means that we’d have to extend what was once the pickup bed, so that can be done as well with a bolt-on section similar to what you once saw on old Econoline vans. Just like those old extended Ford vans, the original side marker light openings would be sealed and the lights replaced into apertures in the add-on section which matches the contours of the original fenders.

Slate Rancho Suv 2 7 19
source: Slate

You can also see the massive side windows like on the Rancho, with half the glass able to slide back for a huge opening. Big sunroofs would be available back here too for a nearly open-air experience, but, unlike the open back versions of the Slate you see online with the rear roof caps removed, you could seal the cabin back up on the Siete in seconds. In back, I considered a split tailgate like on the Slate SUV or the Rancho but instead chose to offer a side-opening “refrigerator door” to make access to the rear cargo area and seats easier.

Slate Rancho Rear 7 19
source: Slate

You’d have a rather cavernous back compartment in the Siete with the extra height and length. Who says that you need four side doors to have an occasional seven-seater?

Slate Rancho No Rear Seats 7 19

As an option, you could have an add-on air conditioner hanging from the roll bar, considering that a glass box with seven people in it might get toasty in summer. Again, I think the rear-facing one would make the most sense:

Slate Rancho Rear Facing Seat 7 19

However, if you wanted inwards-facing seats, you could do that as well. I’m not sure how legal those would be, but the upcoming (possibly) REO truck claims that it will have them, so maybe a loophole exists (plus you can’t really regulate what a buyer does with a car after you sell it to them). I could see those seats easily folding or removing them for (we might need to install a taller rear roll bar as well).

Slate Rancho Side Facing Seats 7 19

What about the dead space below the extension we’d need to add? That could be a cargo box or, if we copy David Tracy’s beloved i3 and put a range extender under there, we’d solve one of the big issues that critics have with the Slate- limited range.

I3 Ghost View 7 18
source: BMW

Now we’re changing the game for this fun little EV truck. We’re transforming it from a cheap proposition pickup (which isn’t that cheap) into one of the better hybrid SUV values out there.

I Promise No Massaging Seats

We know that the Slate’s calling card is the bargain-basement interior with no screens and crank windows. Nobody can stop talking about it, and it’s getting kind of silly.

Stock Slate Interior 2 7 19
source: Slate

Here’s my two cents: the Slate Superfans will cry foul, but my opinion is you can build what I consider to be a “bare bones” truck and still have an audio system and power windows. The sanctity of the “cheapness” would still be there. To that end, I’d offer the bolt-on and easy-to-wire “Speakerboxx” option for the doors that would include speakers that a double DIN head unit could power and motors with mechanisms that sync up to the shafts which currently hold the window cranks. They’re designed with the same materials and radii as the door panels and use the same style switches for the windows as on the dashboard, so they don’t look stuck on at all.

Custom Slate Interior 2 7 19
source: Slate

See? Nobody died. It’s still far more basic looking than anything else on the market, but you get the bare minimum features that really don’t count as “luxuries” today. Again, at over $30,000 a Slate SUV needs to give us the stuff that’s standard on a car such as a Nissan Versa or even that old Discovery.

Do We Put “3.0 CUBIC FEET” Decals On The Side Of It?

Now, more people on board naturally means more cargo to carry, so where do you put it? Well, there’s an outdoor cargo area in the carrier above the front cabin, protected by a wind foil. Thankfully, the Slate offers a frunk, but at around seven cubic feet it’s not going to hold all that much. What could we do? Well, if there’s one thing that makes a car or truck look cool, it’s a power bulge on the hood to signify the immense motor below. The Slate has absolutely no engine whatsoever under the bonnet, but a bulge could add precious cubic feet to the frunk.

Slate Rancho Suv Power Pak 2 7 19
source: Slate

I actually did this addition (called the “Power Pak”, for packing cargo) as a bit of a joke, but the more I look at it, the shape isn’t that bad. It’s silly but rather charming and very practical; the extra visual mass is helped by the expansive back of the Slate. I’m hoping that the bulge could allow you to transport luggage like carry-on rollaboards upright.

Slate Ride And Drive Griffin Riley Ilce 7m4 06 22 26 3 Scaled 2
source: Griffin Riley

Driver and passenger as stuck looking at the back end of this thing, so as an option the Slate could provide a reconfigurable weatherproof display screen for inclinometer, altitude gauge, clock, map, or whatever you want in a style similar to the hood tachs on your favorite sixties muscle cars that had major horsepower under that bulge, even though the Slate will simply have your American Touristers and Nike duffels under it.

Frunk Gauges 7 18
source: Slate

Jason suggested that the display would offer other options like a live view of the frunk interior and a frunk fullness gauge. I can’t believe I was dumb enough to forget those options.

Want It More Like A Discovery? Add Random Shutdown and Electrical Smoke Generators

What would the roof with the needed overhang extensions cost, not to mention that bumped-up hood and even a range extender? I don’t know, but even if it doubled the cost of the base Slate, you would really be getting something that nobody else has to offer today, much sell for around $50,000. Of course, you might decide to purchase an old Land Rover Discovery for next to nothing and get a vehicle with similar looks to the Rancho and capabilities beyond what you’d ever use, but get used to taking special unscheduled off-road excursions like below.

Disco Breakdown 5
source: Rob Spiteri

More importantly, if Slate gave us the Siete raised-roof seven-seater, I could finally stop making rehashes of an oddball French box with an econobox chassis over and over again. “No frills” doesn’t have to mean “no fun” or “no use as a family car”.

Slate Rancho Suv 2 7 19
source:: Slate

The Disco or Rancho will come back in some form, or I’ll die on this hill. Maybe Slate Rancho Disco would have been a better name.

Top graphic base image: Slate

 

 

 

 

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4jim
4jim
1 day ago

I cannot remember the last new car I saw in person with rear or side facing seats that was not an RV.

CityCrossed
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CityCrossed
1 day ago
Reply to  4jim

Tesla S with the rear facing third row comes to mind but there hasn’t been a side facing seat in a long while.

Phuzz
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Phuzz
1 hour ago
Reply to  The Bishop

I doubt it’s actually illegal, more that the safety standards make a side-facing seat so impractical it’s not worth it.

Pater Corpus
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Pater Corpus
1 day ago

Looks awesome!
Personally I’d rather spend $50K on five LR4s and create Land Rover Voltron.

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 day ago

Nah, troop carrier style seating (which Disco 2s had in the rear)

Maymar
Maymar
1 day ago
Reply to  MrLM002

IIRC, Disco 1 had the sideways-facing jump seats, where Disco 2 moved to forward-facing (and had headrests mounted to the ceiling).

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 day ago
Reply to  Maymar

Idk, I just know I rode in the rear jump seats of a Disco with air suspension as a kid, pretty sure they were troop carrier style

Last edited 1 day ago by MrLM002
M SV
M SV
1 day ago

I like the raised roof. Slate will probably be used a lot as a panel van. A raised roof panel van would definitely be useful to many and better replace the vehicles they need to replace.

In my mind that’s something more like a Citroen C15 or Holden Sandman. Vehicles that could do just about anything for anyone. But with the added ability to change that configuration own your own in a few hours. Maybe they can even figure out modular windows and window plugs for the topper.

There are already people showing the slate version of their old cars. I can only assume that will continue and get more popular overtime with the more accessories they add.

Scott
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Scott
1 day ago

I like it too! 😀

I’d probably prefer the power pack/frunk expander bulge to be just a bit lower for comfort/visibility. But the raised cap at the back is great, and I’m sure we’ll see the aftermarket offer some like that assuming Slates actually get into the hands of buyers. Those small wheels look great too, especially with the off-road tires (which I think are already a Slate factory option, or have at least been shown on a concept Slate from the factory).

I’m still looking forward to seeing owner reviews… the car critic reviews I’ve seen/read so far have all been encouraging.

I know not everyone will be OK with the Slate being a sort of EV city car in the shape of a truck (with some finite truck functionality due to having a bed). Some people will slam it for not having 4WD, or much towing capacity, etc… To me, it actually suits more potential buyers the way it is. Though of course I think it’s priced $5K above what would help make it a bona fide cultural phenomenon. It’s a shame Bezos won’t use 2% of his net worth to personally knock $5K off the MSRP for the first few years of sales. If he would, he might have a chance at gaining as much EV glory as Elon’s got.

But I guess he’s got more super-yachts to pay for. 🙁

TheBadGiftOfTheDog
TheBadGiftOfTheDog
1 day ago

I do remember when the Jeep Commander hit the market with a stepped roof. Sadly it went away before I could get interested in it. The slate might follow the same path, even with the mods. I want it to succeed, but buyers are a fickle lot.

4jim
4jim
1 day ago

I owned one it hauled a lot of Girl Scouts around for a few years. It was mechanical garbage.

Bearcat, not Blackhawk
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Bearcat, not Blackhawk
1 day ago

I like it! Wonder if the back door hinge could be strong enough to support a rear mounted spare to enhance the offroad look

Johnologue
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Johnologue
1 day ago

Starting off strong with insinuations about a changing price when the only thing that changed is the tax credit. In a practical way, that’s a change, but I really don’t appreciate how it keeps getting presented like some kind of rug pull.

There’s a rabid group of followers who buy into the whole no-paint-color-options austerity; people who are happy to see an “outsider” (Jeff Bezos?) giving buyers a screen-free driving experience that they claim the Big Three will forever refuse to do.

Oh come on. It’s outright misinformation to say that Slate is “Bezos”. He is one of several investors and not involved with the company. The “Amazon Jeff” with influence here is Wilke. They’re a Re:Build Manufacturing project, not an Amazon Car. An Amazon car would not resemble this, Amazon is a tech company; they are a cloud provider.

And we claim the Big Three (and every other legacy automaker) won’t give buyers a screen-free driving experience because THEY claim that.

The Slate is a great vehicle for talking about silly modifications and what-ifs, and you’ve immediately raised a completely hostile tone into what could’ve been a bit of lighthearted fun. I’m genuinely disappointed.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 day ago
Reply to  Johnologue

Yeah this whole it cost more now think is getting very tired. Fact is when the credit went away they went back to the drawing board and came up with a battery that allowed them to lower the cost $2500 from the price that was teased. Plus that credit was dependent on the buyer, not everyone would have qualified for all of that $7500 credit. Sure there was the possibility of using the lease loophole, though it doesn’t sound like Slate is willing to carry the paper and they would have to find a 3rd party.

Meanwhile the whole Bezos and/or Amazon thing is far worse.

Johnologue
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Johnologue
19 hours ago
Reply to  Scoutdude

Yeah, that’s the thing about the tax credit! I’m not sure it actually would’ve been that useful!

I bolded the “outright misinfo” bit for a reason. I have to explain the Bezos Truck myth anywhere Slate is discussed, now we have more of it on a site that I consider credible. And AI is going to harvest/distribute it, too. I’m really unhappy with that.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
13 hours ago
Reply to  Johnologue

Unfortunately, The Autopian is pretty much as bad as all the other outlets with the misinformation about the Bezos connection.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 day ago

Interesting concept, but I worry about performance because slate roofs are pretty heavy.

Ecsta C3PO
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Ecsta C3PO
1 day ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

There could be an alternative version that is lightweight called Cedar

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
1 day ago

Still needs AWD plus Comma AI support. Some of us actually want AWD plus ADAS for getting places to use the AWD. Or driving through a real winter.

Jimmy7
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Jimmy7
1 day ago

C’mon, Bishop, do the Slate Popemobile. Pleeeeze?

Church
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Church
1 day ago
Reply to  Jimmy7

Fantastic idea.

Ecsta C3PO
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Ecsta C3PO
1 day ago
Reply to  Jimmy7

Isn’t that what he just did?

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
1 day ago

This exercise really captures the feel of the original Disco I. It was very much a basic truck, just with power locks, windows, sunroofs, and a nice enough stereo bolted on. In 7-passenger form, adding the rear A/C was more practicality than luxury just as here. It does all boost the price, but there are definitely buyers who want a practical SUV that’s got just enough conveniences to be comfortable without going overboard.

Also for the record, Disco I’s aren’t electrical and electronic nightmares; they’re actually very straightforward mechanical beasts. The problem for many unsuspecting original owners was that they tended to require tools in larger sizes than an average home mechanic’s tool set from Craftsman, and the shop mechanics had to understand how to work on things more like a medium-duty truck’s suspension and mechanicals plus the European versions thereof. The initial market was largely unprepared for it, so simple things got complicated fast. That became less of a problem for them in the used market, where DIY wrenching and enthusiast know-how took over.

On the other hand, the Disco II genuinely had to struggle with modernization and electronic reliability, particularly in versions that combined Land Rover’s and BMW’s parts bins. Again, the enthusiasts tended to work things out once they hit the secondary market. But it took a while for the II to shake off a rocky start.

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
1 day ago

If Slate has any chance to make it, it’ll have everything to do with third-party add-ons/custom kits. Think of it as the American Girl Doll for gearheads and tinkerers.

Church
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Church
1 day ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Does that include the long and often depressing backstories?

M SV
M SV
1 day ago
Reply to  Church

Only if you buy the premade package. Something like “Sam loved his 87 Blazer but it was totalled and he spent 3 weeks in the icu racking up medical debt. Now 30 years later he has his blazer but a slate after finishing paying off his medical debt. This one’s for you Sam”

Toecutter
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Toecutter
1 day ago

I want a Slate Disco Volante. Turn it into a curvaceous, aerodynamic, lightweight sports car. Sub 2,500 lbs, CdA value under 0.35 m^2, RWD, maybe 300 horsepower, with a 35 kWh battery.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 day ago
Reply to  Toecutter

I always thought the Disco Volante name should’ve been used on a personal luxury coupe with landau roof behind a T-top.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 day ago
Reply to  Toecutter

But how will I listen to Mr. Bungle without integrated sound? A bluetooth speaker? Heresy.

Faerie Alex
Faerie Alex
1 day ago

I do like the stepped-roof look, I’m just thinking about how much else would have to be different to make that work. It wouldn’t have rear glass commonality with the base truck any more (I wonder if that’s why the “hatchback” kit is more expensive than the “squareback” SUV kit actually…), and the addition of third-row seating seems like it might require a whole different rollcage than existing unit. Still, it’s a neat concept.

I’m sure other people have said it already, but I can’t imagine it’ll be too long after the Slate is released that we’ll see someone make a double-DIN dashboard kit. Heck, it’s something I’m already half thinking about it myself (I do have a 3D printer after all). Not sure exactly what I’d wanna put in, but it’s fun to think about.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 day ago

“The Disco or Rancho will come back in some form, or I’ll die on this hill. Maybe Slate Rancho Disco would have been a better name.”

“Oh, Rancho….”

“OH, Disco….”

Phuzz
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Phuzz
1 hour ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

Nah mate, I’m all about the unholy marriage of a Rancho and a Subaru Impreza:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLi4p-Atl-NoVEW78SroYWMPRFqrIzAy3D

(They have the exact same wheelbase, to the mm!)

TheNewBorkTimes
TheNewBorkTimes
1 day ago

“I fall into the latter camp”

…proceeds to write thousands of words and invest hours Photoshopping concept renders…

Sure sure buddy. You absolutely didn’t curmudgeon your way into understanding and adoring the whole reason the Slate absolutely slaps rumper.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 day ago

We need a kit to lower the suspension a bit and give it a long roof. Turn it into the spiritual successor to the Country Squire.

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
1 day ago

Give me AWD plus Comma AI support and I’m sold. I actually use the AWD for things that benefit from it like launching a boat or driving in snow.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 day ago

A lowering kit is one of the options along with the wagon kit, they just need to add a woodgrain wrap to the many other options they currently have.

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
1 day ago

Interior view of the rear is giving old school Pathfinder vibes.

Forrest
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Forrest
1 day ago

Slate Maxxing!

i Pete in the woods
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i Pete in the woods
1 day ago

I’m ambivalent on the Slate Disco package ($20k) with the mandatory electrical gremlins package ($5), but that No Cap – yummy.

Alpscarver
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Alpscarver
1 day ago

We need a function to include pictures here, in the meantime the link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kpw92vH0wdc

Last edited 1 day ago by Alpscarver
Jdoubledub
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Jdoubledub
1 day ago

I hope there is a good aftermarket for this thing that makes ideas like these actually possible. A big source of pleasure for me in owning a car is modifying it and making it perform or look better.

The Bishop's Brother
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The Bishop's Brother
1 day ago
Reply to  Jdoubledub

Beyond simple stuff like bed caps, what are the inspection and even federal regs around selling something major? I guess it would be similar to a coach maker/rv modifier. Guess I now need to look into how that works.
I just imagine the AAVAA or whatever those folks coming for our Kei cars would come gunning for these

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago

Late state capitalism would cover it with ever increasing medical costs & insurance premiums.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago

Very Hyundai Santa Fe vibes.

I think Hyundai could pull this off as a Santa Fe Max.

Arch Duke Maxyenko
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Arch Duke Maxyenko
2 days ago

Calling it the “Speakerboxx” and not calling the rear seat climate controls “The Love Below”

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 day ago

I’d have thought that “The Love Below” should have been an under-seat subwoofer package.

Littlebag
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Littlebag
1 day ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

A very particular massaging seat option…

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 day ago
Reply to  Littlebag

I hesitate to mention the “device” from the last Tales From The Slack…

Maymar
Maymar
1 day ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

Underseat flute mounts

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
1 day ago

As long as Caroline doesn’t crash it into a ditch

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