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Put Your Hands Together For The Moylan Indicator: COTD

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Much of our modern world is dependent on inventions created by brilliant minds eons ago. The traffic light, the seatbelt, and the practical gasoline engine changed the world. But not every important car invention needs to be as impactful as those to earn a place among essential automotive innovations.

Last week, Jason finished the week with a story about Jim Moylan, the man credited with the invention of the little arrow that tells you where your car’s fuel door is. It’s so small, but big. Speedway Sammy:

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We’ve got Duntov cams and MacPherson struts.
I think as a fitting memorial this needs to be termed a Moylan indicator.

Ash78 gave a counterpoint that ended with this line:

You know another fuel feature I find useless? “Miles to empty.” It seems like a great idea, but if you think about it, it’s really condescending to our math skills (why not show “true gallons to empty” or “reserve gallons remaining”?). And it also tends to be inaccurate due to a built-in reserve capacity, so once you realize that zero isn’t really zero, you’re just going to Kramer the car as long as you’re comfortable.

Which led to an incredible response by Captain Muppet:

Hi! I was the designer responsible for the fuel level gauge for four different OEM fuel tanks.

I wouldn’t trust the fuel gauge to be even remotely accurate at low readings. The tolerance on the bent steel float arm is enough to be half a gallon out all by itself. Once it’s assembled in to a tank and maybe bent a bit during assembly it’s anyones guess how much fuel is left.

The car doesn’t have the data required to be accurate.

Miles to empty is particularly useless though, because whatever data it uses as a prediction is entirely invalid because normal humans change how they drive when the warning light comes on.

My whole world of fuel estimation has been shattered.

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Our final COTD goes to Brett Stutz, who commented in the Morning Dump to alert us that the New York Times loved a sentence that Matt wrote:

Congrats to Matt on NYT’s Frank Bruni selecting this as one of the best sentences of the year:
“You don’t buy a Subaru so much as you ascend into your final form as an outdoorsy Subaru owner when a ray of light beams down from the nearest REI, and all your clothes vanish from your body and are replaced by Patagonia.”

Have a great evening, everyone!

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Droid
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Droid
20 minutes ago

about 20,000 days ago, an episode of the Dick Van Dyke show revolved around him getting a sportscar (the “spider”, IIRC) that he ultimately got rid of because the fuel gauge was accurate and it ran out of gas and stranded him when the needle reached empty.

Drew
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Drew
2 minutes ago
Reply to  Droid

Can you give that to me in hours? I don’t think I quite understand how long ago this episode aired.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
28 minutes ago

There’s a reason why EV fans call the range estimator the “guess-o-meter”.

Drew
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Drew
3 minutes ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

And the EV range estimator has better data than the fuel tank one (simply due to limitations in how we monitor fuel levels), so the gas guesser is making even less of an educated guess.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 hour ago

Call me crazy – I like Miles to Empty.

When I’m running low, I know whether I need to stop on this trip or it can wait for the next time I go out.

Then when the readout drops below 20 and the car throws up the “Refill now” graphic in lieu of a number – it keeps me on the prowl for a reasonably priced gas station…
…even tho I know I still have another gallon in reserve.

*insert shoutout to the Gas Buddy app*

Maymar
Maymar
1 hour ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Yeah, I know once I hit zero km to empty, it actually means I have 10L (and ergo 100km) left, so I just don’t fill up until I hit that zero.

Plus, there’s that whole thing about the fuel pump needing to be submerged for cooling purposes, which I assume the reserve takes care of.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 hour ago
Reply to  Maymar

Or apparently not, if it’s my Focus. After occasional random shutdowns during beastly hot weather that I couldn’t figure out, it dawned on me the common denominator was less than 1/4 tank at the time. I’d initially rejected vapor lock b/c it’s not a car from the 70s, but then realized the pump must not be low enough.

Drew
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Drew
1 hour ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Miles to empty isn’t a horrible thing, just as long as you know the limitations of it. I’ve met some people who took it as absolute truth and that is a little concerning (mostly in that they don’t understand that different driving styles/conditions will change that number faster or slower than they anticipate).
My girlfriend was concerned that her miles to empty was broken because it changed too quickly during the first tank in her brand new car. I also had to explain to her that it’s normal to add air to your tires in winter, and that the low tire pressure light means she should definitely do that. It gave me significant concerns about how she dealt with things in her previous car.

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