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See If You Can Spot What’s Weird About My VW Tiguan’s Speedometer

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I like to think of myself as an observant person. I regard the world around me with interest, and I try not to be a person who wanders through all the wonders that life has to offer blindly, barely taking in the rich visual tapestry of the world. I delight in the very act of seeing, of noticing the small things in the world, the way a fire hydrant can look like a little gnome in a conical hat or how the pattern of bark on a tree can mimic the tread of a tire, or maybe vice versa. The point is, I like to look at things.

Especially car-related things. Which is why I was so shocked to notice something about one of the cars that I own that I somehow haven’t noticed for six years of ownership.

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Let’s see if you can spot it. Here’s the instrument cluster:

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Now, let me just tell you something weird it’s not, which is the fact that the check engine light isn’t on, which it usually is. In fact, the only light on is the bulb replacement warning light, for one of the side marker lamps which I haven’t gotten around to replacing yet.

Honestly, I’m amazed there’s no check engine light; incredibly, the Tiguan is running great right now. I replaced all the coil packs and spark plugs recently, then had one of the front CV joints/driveshafts replaced, so it’s not like it hasn’t been demanding, but since then it’s been running like a top.

Now I need to find an entire redwood tree to knock on, if you’ll give me a moment.

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Let’s get back to the speedometer here, though. Can you see what’s weird about it?

I suspect some of you have noticed by now. If you haven’t, here’s a hint:

Cs Tigspeedo Where90

Okay, that’s more than a hint, but still. There’s no 90 on the speedo! Why? They left out just one number in the series? It goes by 10s, except for 90?

That’s not exactly true, though; if we count the hash marks, it goes by fives; the smaller hash marks are the 5s, and the bolder ones are the 10s. After 80 it seems to switch to 10s, at the expense of showing our pal 90.

So, the question here is why; what’s the point of doing this? Well, from what I can gather, it’s a pretty sensible reason: the speeds from 0 to 80 are more used far more than 80 to 160, so why not skew the scale in favor of that?

I’ve complained about some cars before that have speedos that go up to absurd numbers at the expense of the speeds people actually drive at 90% of the time, where the span of the needle from 0 to 60 only lets the needle move an inch or a half or so. That’s dumb. And, sure, changing the scale of the needle isn’t a bad way to avoid that trap. Well, until I realized something about this generation of Tiguan: it’s electronically limited to 133 mph.

In fact, some variants of the 2.0-liter Tiguan only will hit 128 mph, which is, I should note, plenty. So if keeping the speedo scale reasonable and usable for day-to-day driving was VW’s goal here, then why the hell does the speedo go up to 160, 30 mph more than the car can actually hit?

VW just made their own problem by making a 160 mile speedometer, and then tried to fix it with the weird solution of getting rid of 90 and changing the scale? It’s all such ridiculous thinking. Does any Tiguan owner think they’re going to hit 160 mph? Is that really a fantasy VW found worth supporting?

I really can’t think of another car that just drops a number and changes scale mid-speedometer, but just out of curiosity I checked most the other cars in my fleet:

Jtfleet Speedos

Going clockwise, we have my ’73 VW Beetle, my ’90 Nissan Pao, my ’83 Citroën 2CV, and my ’89 Ford F-150. The Pao and 2CV are both in kilometers, the Beetle and F-150 in miles. The Beetle, Pao, and 2CV all have speedos with optimistic top speeds that eclipse what the car is actually capable of: the Beetle goes to 90 (real top speed: 81), the Pao goes to 160 kph/100 mph (real top speed: 140 kph/87 mph), and the 2CV’s optimism caps at 120 kph/75 mph, when the real top speed is about 115 kph/71.5 mph.

Only the F-150 is truly modest, with an 85 mph speedo that undersell’s the truck’s actual top speed of somewhere around 100 to 105 mph. Interestingly, the F-150 is also the only vehicle I have that has both MPH and KPH on the speedo dial.

Point is, though, none of these eliminate numbers. These are all also old-school mechanical speedometers, not electronic ones like the Tiguan, so they likely don’t even have the option of changing scale mid-way through the dial.

It’s just weird! And, knowing what I know about the Tiguan’s actual top speed, kind of stupid. They could have just had a normal speedo that went to 130 and had a decent spread for the normal day-to-day speeds, at least as good as the speedo actually in the Tig is now. But instead they had to make it go to a speed 30 mph faster than the car could actually hit, and then remove a number and change the speedo scale?

Why, Volkswagen, why? Why are you making everything needlessly complicated? Maybe I’ll reach out to VW, because the more I think about this, the less sense it makes.

Still, I’m happy to not see that check engine light in there.

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Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago

You’re expected to use the digital display in the middle.

Which is also, oddly, why there’s no KM/Miles dual-marking.

RuralBacon
RuralBacon
1 day ago

Jason you should check out the Veloster N speedo. It’s the same idea but they decided to switch the numbering and minor hashmarks after 60 mph while still maintaining same visual spacing for the numbered hashmarks.

JayJay
JayJay
1 day ago

A very nice speedo for a ’73 VW!
Must be much older.
You’ve probably written about that earlier, but I’ve forgotten ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Edit] Found it 🙂 Gotta get me one of those!

Last edited 1 day ago by JayJay
Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 day ago

Oh my God the VW Beetle having the 80 and 90 upside-down is so frustrating!

Phuzz
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Phuzz
17 hours ago

Most Beetles will never need those numbers on their speedo.

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
1 day ago

Somehow doing 160 in a Tiguan is less terrifying than 71.5 in a 2CV

Also, “Why are you making everything needlessly complicated?”. How many VWs have you owned? You of everyone here should know the answer to this by now. This is VW, this is the way they do things. Why have one point of failure when you can have 3? It’s VW

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
1 day ago

I’m just trying to picture the terror of that suspension at that speed

Lightning
Lightning
20 hours ago

You can probably hit 120km/hour on a downhill, though you may or may not have that terrain in your area. I’ve coasted to 90mph before in a Prius (admittedly pretty aerodynamic) foot off the gas on a straight, downhill on one of the interstate highways.

NebraskaStig
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NebraskaStig
1 day ago

Saab!!! is the only manufacturer I knew of that had the scale progressively, specifically the 1st gen 9³ which got smaller increments once above like 90mph.

Casey Blake
Casey Blake
1 day ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

Ja- my old 9-5 had that. What’s more, when you had Saab’s signature “Night Panel” activated, the numbers above 90 disappeared, because arguably you shouldn’t be going that fast at night. But if your speed did exceed 90 they would light back up.

Steve L
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Steve L
1 day ago

My 2013 Audi A4 allroad did this – the upper part of the speedometer scale was compressed.

Whelmed but not Overly
Whelmed but not Overly
1 day ago

Why not switch to a logarithmic scale after 80 mph?

Tj1977
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Tj1977
1 day ago

Jason…don’t ever, ever EVER look at the instrument cluster on the steaming-from-the-factory new Chevy SSR.

Please don’t.

You’ll never be the same again.

Foggytrucker
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Foggytrucker
1 day ago

Where are the klicks? That’s what struck me as weird.

The Chrysler junk I drove in the 80’s had KPH markings on the speedo, but this example of German engineering does not? We are still allowed to drive in Canada, right?

Long as we’re on the subject, someone should bring back the barrel style speedo on my Uncle’s Olds Toronado.

Joe L
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Joe L
1 day ago
Reply to  Foggytrucker

Modern electronic speedometers will have a switch or setting to swap miles/kms. That’s the reason for the higher range; 160 km/h is 100 mph.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
1 day ago
Reply to  Joe L

That makes sense..

Foggytrucker
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Foggytrucker
1 day ago
Reply to  Joe L

Thank you. The collector car hobby is going to be dealing with a lot of wiring nightmares in a few decades. A well built, simple inexpensive car would sell like the Bug did.

My wife had a Country Squire company car for a while with a digital dash. She failed to see the humor in surreptitiously switching to klicks – isn’t 90 a little quick, honey?

I still think the barrel speedo is the coolest ever. Like simple, easy HVAC controls you did not have to take your eyes off the road to adjust, everything since has been worse. I can’t imagine what it would be like driving car service in New York with the customer demanding warmer or cooler while you try to avoid 8 or 10 hazards at once while working through a touch screen.

Last edited 1 day ago by Foggytrucker
Joe L
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Joe L
1 day ago
Reply to  Foggytrucker

Barrel like tho Olds Toronado? If so, I agree!

Littlebag
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Littlebag
1 day ago

Can I share a speedometer complaint that has nothing to do with VWs? My Bronco has a permanent speedometer with a physical dial and everything. It also has a digital speedometer that is visible in every single drive mode and screen configuration. No matter what you do, there are always two speedometers visible. Even if it must hide other information you specifically want on the screen, both speedos are there. Infuriating.

Howie
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Howie
1 day ago
Reply to  Littlebag

That is called progress

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
1 day ago
Reply to  Littlebag

My wife will sometimes have the digital cluster in the GLI set in a way that is shows the speed 3 times which I always find funny. One “traditional gauge” with needle pointing to the speed, then the speed displayed again in the center of that “gauge,” then the speed displayed again along the bottom row information line. I always ask how many ways does she need to know she’s going 90 down the highway

TriangleRAD
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TriangleRAD
1 day ago
Reply to  Littlebag

My new daily driver is a ’23 Integra A-Spec with the Tech Package. That means that, at all times, I have my speed displayed directly in front of me no less than three times. Once on the main guage (analog, but rendered by a screen), a digital display in the middle of the cluster, and a third digital readout on the heads-up-display. I could turn off the HUD, but..nah that thing is awesome. It uses a series of mirrors to achieve visual depth so your speed and compass heading appear to be floating out over the end of the hood. (Why no I’ve never had a HUD before, how can you tell?)

MP81
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MP81
1 day ago

This is not all uncommon with electronic speedos.

The Dakota Digital HDX gauges in my ’81 Camaro do this as well. The scale even intensifies after 80, too.

IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
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IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
1 day ago

I didn’t see that odd detail on the speedometer. I was too occupied by the tachometer inexplicably showing that the engine runs.

Mike Harrell
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Mike Harrell
1 day ago

We don’t know that the engine was running. The tach may just have a stuck needle.

Last edited 1 day ago by Mike Harrell
DangerRoad
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DangerRoad
1 day ago

I thought the speedo had been mislabeled with MPH where it should be KPH, because of the absurd 160 scale. And then I thought it was the number 1 in the fuel gauge to indicate a full tank. Makes German sense that if a half full tank is 1/2, then a full tank should be a “1”. However, then an empty tank should be a “0” and not a fuel pump icon. So not so German sense after all. Maybe VW got a good deal on a 100k or so mislabeled speedos.

TJ Heiser
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TJ Heiser
1 day ago

At first I couldn’t see it, but then ‘BING’ there it was. or should I say “wasn’t”. Now the missing 90 is all I see!
“Sorry Officer, I was going 90 mph and the number just disappeared, now I don’t know how fast I was going.”

Last edited 1 day ago by TJ Heiser
Whelmed but not Overly
Whelmed but not Overly
1 day ago
Reply to  TJ Heiser

So that is how Torch noticed it!

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 day ago

During the Piëch years, VW quietly replaced *miles* with *malfunctions* in MPH.

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
1 day ago

Too busy looking at taillights. “HEY, MY SPEEDOMETER IS UP HERE!!”

G. K.
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G. K.
1 day ago

I also had a Jetta SportWagen TDI, purchased new, and never noticed this. I do think it’s ridiculous when automakers scale speedometers up to 160 for cars that will never reach that speed, when a more realistic top-end would give them an opportunity to make a more precise instrument. I remember our 2005 Murano had a 160-MPH speedometer; I laughed out loud at the thought.

Bags
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Bags
1 day ago
Reply to  G. K.

My car will switch the displayed speed and the physical needle when I change from mph to kph, I assume the Tiguan does this as well. But this makes it almost worse- the 80-120kph range needs the detail now.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 day ago

I used to have a Chevrolet Celebrity wagon that had an 85 mph speedo. It was one of those longboi’s – not a typical dial, but a dial stretched into a very wide rectangle. Of course the 55 was bright orange on there too. I don’t think that the carbureted V6 in that car could even do 85.

Drew
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Drew
1 day ago

My Chevy Citation could hit 85 with its V6. Everything was rattling by that point, of course. I always wanted to blow past one of those radar signs and see what the top speed actually was, but it probably wasn’t as high as I liked to imagine.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 day ago
Reply to  Drew

Starting the Celebrity up in cold weather always required a blood sacrifice, a rain dance, a proper recitation of “klaatu barada nikto” and typically a whole can of ether. That car could barely get out of its own way.

Sean Flaherty
Sean Flaherty
1 day ago

I like the “speedo” in my RX-8. It’s 3 digits in the lower right corner of the center mounted tachometer. Perfect.

Last edited 1 day ago by Sean Flaherty
Bleeder
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Bleeder
1 day ago
Reply to  Sean Flaherty

Nice! It’s like my bike where the tach is in white front and center, the speedo is almost an afterthought.

Fineheresyourdamn70dollars
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Fineheresyourdamn70dollars
1 day ago

I blame Nena and the Luftballons.

DaChicken
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DaChicken
1 day ago

Not all that uncommon. The speedo in my C6-Z06 does similar. It decreases the resolution of the gauge as the speed increases. Trying to fit 0-200mph on an analog gauge in a useful way is not easy. Plus, above a point knowing the exact speed isn’t really helpful. In the Z06’s case, use the digital readout on the HUD for more precise measurements.

Bosco
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Bosco
1 day ago

Maybe nitro kicks in at 85 and zips you straight to 100? Saw that on fast ‘n furious.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 day ago

In Germany, once you exceed 129 kph, you can only legally accelerate in 32 kph intervals. I read that somewhere. Oh, yeah, right there in my first sentence.

Andrew Stewart
Andrew Stewart
1 day ago

Similar thing happening on the dash of my 2023 X3 M40i. It goes: 0 – 10 – 20 – 40 – 60 – 80 – 120 – 160, with equal spaces between each….

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