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Someone Shipped The Greatest Diesel Minivan On Earth To America And One Of You Needs To Buy It

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Red alert; red alert! The Austria-built minivan of your dreams — a vehicle you always thought would be outside of your grasp due to it never having been sold in the U.S. — is for sale. In Ohio! And someone whose name is not David Tracy needs to eject $2,200 from an AMT and slap that those 22 bills into the current owner’s hand. Because there’s no better way to spend $2,200. Trust Me. 

In 2020, my friend Andreas Aron from Germany bought a 1994 Chrysler Voyager Diesel 5-speed on my behalf after I’d been asking him to be on the lookout for one. You see, I grew up in a first-generation Voyager minivan, and I recall my dad rowing through its stickshift when I was a kid. I wanted one of my own, but I didn’t just want any Voyager — I wanted the ultimate.

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That van is the diesel model built in Graz, Austria and never sold in the U.S.

Technically the diesel manual Chrysler minivan that I bought is a second-gen, but that is based on the first-gen that my dad brought me home from the hospital in, and when I first sat in the 500 Euro van that Andreas had bought for me, the vehicle immediately felt familiar.

Anyway, that van became a legend, as I repaired it during the pandemic when most people were in lockdown and had nothing better to do than watch a single, grown-ass man fly to Europe to fix a 250,000 mile minivan.

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That machine has been on some legendary trips, including this one to Belgium:

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This one to Sweden:

And this one to Istanbul:

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But the most popular story about the van wasn’t any of those road trips, it was this piece on what it was like getting that ol’ beast through Germany’s incredibly rigorous “TUV” inspection:

Anyway, all of this is to say: The minivan exceeded my already-lofty expectations. It has never let me down, and is in fact my dad’s daily driver since his 2011 Chevy Equinox’s 2.4-liter EcoTec decided to blow up.

All of this matters because of this:

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That’s right: Someone imported the greatest minivan ever to the U.S. That “someone” was apparently in the military, as the seller told me over Facebook:

Guy was in the military and had it shipped here. I guess that our government gives a good deal on shipping vehicles to soldiers.

Indeed they do! The military will ship a car for free for service members. That someone would import this one as their sole “free” car given that it must have been at least 25 years old at the time (since it wouldn’t be allowed into the U.S. until it was 25, per the 25 year import rule) is a bit surprising to me, but maybe they were big fans of the van?

I mean, I get it. Mine has been unstoppable since I got it back on the road.

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This one has under 200,000 miles on the clock, while mine has 260,000. That might have you thinking “Oh, then this thing has lots of life left in it,” but the truth is that mine had its cylinder heads replaced sometime around 2009. They tend to crack, and I’d be worried if this van’s heads were the originals.

Or maybe I’d just say screw it and give up the two grand. I mean, it’s a diesel manual Chrysler minivan in America. It’s priceless, really.

h/t: Josh!

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Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
1 month ago

How can it be the greatest, if it’s cylinder head tends to crack?

My 5 cylinder diesel VW T4 “Eurovan” had 300K miles on the clock when I sold it, without any of that. Thinking of getting another one actually, now they are old and approaching classics.

67 Oldsmobile
67 Oldsmobile
1 month ago

Because they tend to make their own definitions of reliability around here:-)

Top Dead Center
Top Dead Center
1 month ago

It’s in Cleveland! May have taken a spin down Lorain Road too! This is pretty awesome to see stateside…

Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
1 month ago

Sorry but been unemployed for 15 weeks. But I would only buy it if I got a DT ROAD TRIP from pickup to my house. And ST Signs the glove box.

JR Bob Dobbs
JR Bob Dobbs
1 month ago

David,

the ad reads “300,000 miles” yet you write that it’s got fewer than 200,000 miles. So which is right? Are you assuming that the seller meant KMs and not miles given that it’s a European model? Because with fewer than 200k, this would be amazing, assuming it’s been properly cared for.

Here4thecars
Here4thecars
1 month ago

Buy the van, DT! You can use it for a parts car for your van in Germany and ship parts as needed to your Dad!

Unclewolverine
Unclewolverine
1 month ago

Would this of been eligible to come here before the 25 year rule since it was a vehicle (kinda) sold in the us, or does the diesel render it ineligible? I know my rhd 95 xj came over from japan before the 25 year rule despite it having options the usdm version doesn’t.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago
Reply to  Unclewolverine

Was the XJ imported by a mail carrier? RHD/JDM cars and small trucks are popular among rural carriers that use their own vehicle, and there might (have) be(en) some exception for them.

I heard that members of the military used to be allowed to bring over one vehicle not conforming to FMVSS and less than 25 years old, but that might not be the case anymore.

Unclewolverine
Unclewolverine
1 month ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

I am a rural mail carrier. We do not get special privileges on importing vehicles.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago
Reply to  Unclewolverine

That seems possible, as IIRC it’s easier if you can demonstrate vehicle was engineered to comply with US safety regulations. Just less likely since most such cars the novelty doesn’t outweigh the cost vs. buying one already here.

Perhaps it came by way of Canada too since that’s 15? years instead of 25.

Alpinab7
Alpinab7
1 month ago
Reply to  Unclewolverine

No. It was not a recognized configuration by the EPA so it was never tested for emissions with that motor here. Minor differences might be ok but not an entirely different drivetrain.

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green
1 month ago

Are there any emissions controls on this, like a DPF, or a DEF? That is what concerns me out about diesels….

Gee See
Gee See
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonathan Green

None for diesels from that era

Clupea Hangoverus
Clupea Hangoverus
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonathan Green

Possibly EGR and some sort of diesel cat, 1994 should be Euro 2 emission class, so around this time there were some changes needed.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 month ago

 it was this piece on what it was like getting that ol’ beast through Germany’s incredibly rigorous “TUV” inspection:”

And the thing I remember from the writeup related to that was the discussion between your friend and the guy doing part of the the TUV test related to the brakes:
“It’s not good”
“But is it good enough?”

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Well.. as my Grandma used to say: ” for every pot, there is a lid” and anyone whom actually desires this vehicle has flipped their lid! 😉

( Or is a lovable nerd like DT) (•‾⌣‾•)و ̑̑♡

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
1 month ago

My condolences in advance to whoever decides to voluntarily get theselves into a VM-Motori propelled car in the USA. Also, just out of curiosity, let me know what the underwear situation is like when you grow a second pair of testicles.

EDIT: my bad for assuming whoever buys this has balls, but the underwear joke wouldn’t hold up otherwise.

Last edited 1 month ago by Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Gee See
Gee See
1 month ago

I Do Cars just did a tear down on a 3.0 Eco Diesel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lSHuzkv_RU

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
1 month ago
Reply to  Gee See

How Mopar gets away with offering such trash engines in american models is beyond my comprehension.

Gee See
Gee See
1 month ago

In response to your nutz commend.. most of the buyers are RAM / Dodge truck bros.

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
1 month ago
Reply to  Gee See

Oh so the pair grows out of the rear bumper, gotcha. No underwear situation I suppose.

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
1 month ago

Owner’s Wife: Did you get any emails on the van?
Owner: Nothing since yesterday, but I’ll che… Oh shit. I got 800 of them.
Wife: What?!
Owner: What the hell is an “Autopian”?
Wife: Sounds like a cult.
Owner: You may be right. This one just wants to come so he can touch it.

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
1 month ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

“Owner: Nothing since yesterday, but I’ll che… Oh shit. I got 800 of them.”

this, right here. Nothing like getting off work, grabbing your phone, and then seeing that you have like 100 unread emails.

Ham On Five
Ham On Five
1 month ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

Touch it? Hell … that layer cake taillight made me swoon and it’s just a picture.

NoRush
NoRush
1 month ago

I mean, it’s no maroon awd Sienna, but still…

Andreas8088
Andreas8088
1 month ago

If it wasn’t going to be impossible to get parts for, I’d be really tempted.
Like, really really.

Clupea Hangoverus
Clupea Hangoverus
1 month ago
Reply to  Andreas8088

Difficult, not impossible. Italian ebay or other euro variants. Search 2.5 vm motori. The ”motori” was fitted to a number of cars and vans, including Alfas and Fiats, range rovers, Ivecos, mopar.. sold in Italian market but also elsewhere. Also boats etc.

Andreas8088
Andreas8088
1 month ago

Jeeeez, don’t encourage me. 😀
Hm…..

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
1 month ago

It’s an hour north of me. It’s absolutely KILLING ME that it’s so close.

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

I could probably walk there in an hour. I hear ya.

Want to go in on it? halfsies?

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
1 month ago

Joint custody of an unloved treasure. It’s the most Ohio love story ever.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

I think that’s what tonight’s Dateline is about…

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

DO IT 😀

Sammy B
Sammy B
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

I’m in Summit County….i’m trying to stay strong and remember i dont need any projects

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
1 month ago
Reply to  Sammy B

Carroll County here…..I just paid $7K for a garage, so I’m drained at the moment, BUT MAN WHAT A PERFECT CAR TO PUT IN MY GARAGE lmao

The F--kshambolic Cretinoid Harvey Park
The F--kshambolic Cretinoid Harvey Park
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

I’m not kink shaming, but why? It’s an ancient stinky shitbox with no paint that’s going to rust through by mid February next year. The head will probably go. It has 200k miles of cheerios/tobacco/flatulence/whatever the owners and passengers were into.

Old-ass diesels are miserable to drive.

I do not get it.

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
1 month ago

Well at least for me, I love chrysler vans. My dad would bust his ass 7 days a week working construction and driving 200 dollar shitboxes so he could make sure my mom could cart us kids around in the newest vehicle possible. So my entire childhood was spent in a series of them, I had my first date in one, learned to drive in one, more memories than I could list on here.

2nd, I have an affinity for shitboxes. It’s very freeing to have at least one vehicle that you can use as an automotive pair of old coveralls and do any dirty job, whether its hauling scrap, filling up with messy plants and mulch, let it get washed when it rains, and do funny stuff like screwing a lightbar directly to the hood or letting the kids paint flames on.

3rd, it’s the RARITY of it! Even if it breaks down here and there, the novelty of a clattery diesel stickshift minivan is so worth it. I know people that spend a grand to go see a concert, or pay 1500 dollars for a phone that performs moderately better than their old one. If this thing runs for a year and kicks the bucket, I still got a lot of laughs for the money.

I have a new van for family duty, 2 old jeeps and a Hornet R/T, so daily driving/fun to drive/ nice vehicle stuff is covered.

The F--kshambolic Cretinoid Harvey Park
The F--kshambolic Cretinoid Harvey Park
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

Thank you for the perspective!

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago

Could Torch and his family use another vehicle?

Otto will be driving before we know it and this would be a good first car for him.

Last edited 1 month ago by A. Barth
Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

But how’s the HVAC design?

Aaron
Aaron
1 month ago

Not a screen or haptic control in sight!

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

The taillights aren’t interesting enough for Torch.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago

We all know this ends with David buying it anyways. Or possibly waiting till someone else buys it, breaks it, THEN buys it.

Frankencamry
Frankencamry
1 month ago

And then for some inscrutable reason shipping it back to Europe to be his dad’s parts van.

Dumb Shadetree
Dumb Shadetree
1 month ago

No.

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
1 month ago

Heh, I saw this on OPPO and I knew it wouldn’t stay secret for very long. I mean, what are the odds David wouldn’t sniff out the only other diesel Voyager in the lower 48?

JunkerDave
JunkerDave
1 month ago

“In the lower 48?” They’ve got more in Alaska and Hawaii? Maybe in Canada?

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
1 month ago
Reply to  JunkerDave

Shhh! They’ll find out!

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago

This would be good for someone who likes Chrysler minivans but not their shitty automatic transmissions

BuildWithAndrew
BuildWithAndrew
1 month ago

I was sent the ad this morning, couldn’t believe it!

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 month ago

AMT is (was?) a plastic model kit producer and I can totally see somebody who doesn’t trust banks stashing cash in a box on a shelf in a hobby room.

…And then I read it again and understood.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  AssMatt

Esp. as during the pandemic, everyone was looking for indoor hobbies and models made a big comeback for a bit – I have a couple of AMT kits I picked up on clearance at Walmart when that fad waned.

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

My dad has always built model trucks and still has hundreds of kits from AMT/Ertl and many others. Apparently it stood for Aluminum Model Toys but they were acquired by a parent company and it’s not immediately clear if new kits are produced under the name AMT.

Just another three-letter acronym probably associated by all sorts of people with random stuff alien to anybody outside that fold. Typos are fun!

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  AssMatt

I think it’s just the name, as at this point, “Big Model” seems to own them all – Monogram, Revell, etc. But I love how they’ve used the era-appropriate retro graphics on the boxes.

I’m now looking at my ’69 Ford Torino Cobra kit and thinking I need to build her!

SX-70
SX-70
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

A company called Round2 produces model kits under the AMT and MPC names (using the old molds as well as the occasional newer one), as well as diecasts under a couple of other brands (I’m not as into diecast). I believe they also have the old Lindberg line as well.

Revell was merged with Monogram a long time ago, and Revells current corporate owner has stopped using the Monogram name on model kits, but does reissue old Monogram kits.

Moebius, Tamiya, Hasegawa, Aoshima, etc. are all separate companies.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  SX-70

Lindberg – wow that takes me back. I recall trying to complete some of their ship models when I was a kid – damn they were complicated!

AlterId
AlterId
1 month ago
Reply to  AssMatt

I assumed there was some kind of diesel manual minivan credit I hadn’t heard about that one could apply to the US Alternative Minimum Tax. (Biden is a cat guy, after all.)

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  AlterId

Pretty sure Biden is a dog guy.

AlterId
AlterId
1 month ago

I hate auto-correct, especially when it decides to become feli-correct.

That guy
That guy
1 month ago
Reply to  AlterId

SO that’s where all the cat converters are going??

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