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Tesla Doesn’t Want To Pay Lawyers $230 Million Over Compensation Lawsuit: Report

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I intended to start today with some more union news, but I’m sitting here waiting for a UAW livestream to begin so I’ll just start with the ongoing legal battles associated with Tesla being Tesla. Specifically, Tesla settled a lawsuit over board compensation, and the lawyers on the other side of the case are demanding their fair share. But what is their fair share? That’s the $230 million question.

Telsa always seems to be in the middle of probes and investigations from various federal and state agencies, but the most interesting one to me at the moment is the one that it avoided. A whistleblower shared numerous documents with the Securities Exchange Commission and, when that didn’t work, the documents ended up with the press.

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Finally, I’ve got some data on the strike from Edmunds that shows that the strike so far hasn’t yet impacted customers looking to buy cars from dealers, yet. Also, I’m writing this from David’s couch, which is where I slept last night. His parting words to me before I went to sleep were “Don’t eat anything in the fridge, trust me.”

Tesla’s Lawyers Complaining About Lawyers Over Lawsuit’s Lawyer Fees

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I’ve got a lawyer friend who works in employment law and I love to hear stories about his cases. Often, it’s just one rich hedge fund manager suing an even wealthier hedge fund manager. It seems to me that, in these cases, it’s really the lawyers who win. Lately, this friend has been quite perturbed that Tesla doesn’t seem to want to pay the lawyers in a recent case it settled.

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That case is about compensation for the Tesla Board of Directors. Lawyers representing the pension fund for Detroit police officers — a fund that owned Tesla stock — sued the directors in court, claiming that those directors unlawfully over-enriched themselves to the detriment of shareholders (like the pension fund). Rather than go to court, the directors ended up settling and returning over $700 million, though they said their compensation was fair and they were just doing it to stop the litigation.

Oh, but it doesn’t end there. In its story “Tesla fights $230 million fee sought by attorneys who sued over board pay,” Reuters on what happened next:

The attorneys want as their fee 25% of the settlement with the 12 directors, who include James Murdoch, son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch, and Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison.

The case was brought as a so-called derivative lawsuit which benefits the company, rather than shareholders directly.

Tesla argued the shareholder’s attorneys exaggerated the value of the settlement, and by extension their requested fee, by pegging its value to the cost to directors rather than the benefit to the company. Tesla estimated its benefit from the deal was $295 million.

So, Tesla says the lawyers should only get $64 million and the lawyers want the full $230 million. Elon Musk, it should be noted, isn’t a part of this case. You can guess whose side my lawyer friend is on.

The kicker to all of this is that a couple of weeks ago this same lawyer friend said he wanted an EV and couldn’t find a better deal than a Model Y. He asked if I could suggest an EV that offered the same features and was as affordable. I could not. He’s now a Model Y owner and couldn’t be happier with his choice.

Why Did The SEC Ignore A Tesla Whistleblower?

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The Tesla news doesn’t end there. There’s a new report from CNBC over a would-be Tesla whistleblower who reached out to the Securities and Exchange Commission claiming the company “improperly categorized repairs and had poor control over internal systems used to capture data that later rolled up to financial reports.”

So far as anyone knows, the complaint was closed and nothing ever happened. From the article:

Agency staff have never spoken with the people who filed the complaint, those people say, and have never taken them up on their offer to review about 18,000 files they say they have for review, including internal Tesla emails, spreadsheets, screenshots, recordings and images, along with public records they gathered to support their allegations.

In response to questions from CNBC, the SEC declined to comment on the existence or nonexistence of a possible submission but said the agency evaluates all tips that are submitted.

I haven’t seen the records, but CNBC did show it to some accounting experts, who found the systems to be “not very transparent.” One of the biggest potential discrepancies is over “goodwill repairs” by Tesla, which are repairs the automaker undertakes not as a warranty claim but as a make-good to a customer. Specifically, the automaker allegedly put a lot of repairs under the “goodwill repairs” category. From the report:

In just under two months in late 2021, Tesla was spending over $17 million on “goodwill” in the U.S. alone, which translated to about $70 worth of goodwill on the average repair order across approximately 247,000 repairs, according to internal Tesla dashboards referenced in the whistleblower complaint and reviewed by CNBC.

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Nelson, the accounting professor, explained why miscategorization of repairs might be of interest to financial regulators and investors.

“Where you put stuff in a financial statement matters,” she said. “If I’m taking warranty costs out of the cost of automotive sales, and pushing them down into some other line further down the income statement, that will make my gross profit margin look higher. If I’m moving it from up above in cost of sales, and moving into other expenses, it’s also not as transparent about the quality of the product.”

Since the SEC never followed up, Occam’s Razor suggests that the SEC possibly thought it was a nothing-burger. Alternatively, the article contends that it’s possible the whistleblower was unsuccessful because he or she didn’t get an attorney who was a former SEC official since, unsurprisingly, those officials tend to be more successful in getting complaints to be taken seriously.

No Evidence In Sales Data Of Strike Impact, Yet

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Edmunds released some interesting sales data regarding the Detroit Three and the strike in an email to reporters. The bottom line is: In the month since the strike started there’s been no appreciable transaction or inventory impact from the strike.

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Overall, new vehicle transaction prices in September hit $47,698, which is down slightly from August and up slightly year-over-year. The same is true for Days To Turn (DTT), which is how long it takes for a vehicle to sell. For now, inventory and demand seem pretty evenly matched.

The notable update here is that there isn’t one to speak of yet. Edmunds analysts are not expecting major movement in ATPs among the Detroit Three yet because the list of vehicles affected by the strike is still short at this stage. The impact can grow significantly if the UAW becomes more aggressive with calls on higher-volume plants to join the strike, as is the case with the recently-reported Ford Kentucky Truck Plant strike.

Both among the Detroit Three and industry-wide, DTT has remained steady and even raised a few ticks in some cases. For now, no major purchase frenzy is apparent.

Obviously, this can’t hold. If the strike continues or expands it’ll eventually hit consumers.

UAW Says They’ve Entered A New Phase Of The Strike

Alright, the live stream has started. Yesterday, I talked about the “surprise punch” that the UAW threw at Ford when it announced a strike without warning the company first. According to Fain in his Friday livestream, there are no more strike warnings coming. Everyone’s on notice.

“We’re done waiting until Fridays to announce our strike” he exclaimed.

Fain’s point is that the automakers were waiting until Friday to make counter proposals and it was therefore slowing the process down.

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“They thought they figured out the rules of the game, so we changed the rules. Now there’s only one rule: Pony Up.” he said.

Ford has stated they’ve got no more room to bargain on economic matters and has spent the last day complaining about the strike at the Kentucky Track Plant, to which Fain responded: “As the saying goes: a hit dog will holler!”

The good news for automakers, if there’s any good news here, is that Fain didn’t announce any new strikes. He did finish his livestream with a strong commitment to fight for the working class.

“How come when auto companies close 65 plants over the decades it’s business as usual, but when workers ask for their fair share it’s a ‘crisis’?” he asked.

The Big Question

I’ve got to get to Galpin. I’m in David’s apartment, alone. He’s left me two keys:

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  • The YJ will happily get me to Galpin with no issues. It’s fun to drive.
  • The Nissan Leaf will only go 12 miles and it’s quite likely I won’t make it.

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RootWyrm
RootWyrm
6 months ago

In just under two months in late 2021, Tesla was spending over $17 million on “goodwill” in the U.S. alone, which translated to about $70 worth of goodwill on the average repair order across approximately 247,000 repairs

Jesusfuck. You have no goddamn idea just how mind-blowingly high that is, and there’s no way it’s legitimate, period. That’s straight up accounting fraud. Incredibly blatant and obvious fraud.

Alternatively, the article contends that it’s possible the whistleblower was unsuccessful because he or she didn’t get an attorney who was a former SEC official since, unsurprisingly, those officials tend to be more successful in getting complaints to be taken seriously.

It’s even simpler than that: unless you’re one of the haves and upset about having slightly less, the SEC is completely uninterested in it. Period. They only protect the richest of the rich. Which is why they don’t even enforce the rules they claim they enforce. At all.

Ford has stated they’ve got no more room to bargain on economic matters and has spent the last day complaining about the strike at the Kentucky Track Plant

Dear Farley and the rest of the board:
Take a flying leap off a building and be sure to fuck yourself on the way down. Nobody believes you. And even if it was true, HEY GUESS WHAT. Maybe you shouldn’t keep shipping cars you know are defective and in some cases deadly! Then you wouldn’t be out a few billion dollars in forced buybacks!

Eric Smith
Eric Smith
6 months ago
Reply to  RootWyrm

Out of a sincere interest in getting my learn on, can you say anything more about why the “goodwill” repair amount is so “mind-blowingly high”?

I didn’t find any comparative figures either here or in the original article other than a quoted “auto industry veteran” claiming it was 10x normal (and yes I get that 10x normal is probably mind-blowingly high, but I tend to prefer seeing actual comparatives rather than just taking quotes at face value).

Brian Ash
Brian Ash
6 months ago

Next headline.

Tesla’s Lawyers Complaining About Lawyers Over Lawsuit’s Lawyer Fees, Hire More Lawyers to Sue Other Lawyers to Reduce Their Lawyer Fees, According to the Lawyers at the Law Review.

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
6 months ago
Reply to  Brian Ash

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb!

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
6 months ago

I find Fain interesting. He’s forcing the shoe on the other foot and the corporations are not finding it comfortable.

Let that dog holler or, in the case of an extended metaphor, let those dogs bark.

Ryanola
Ryanola
6 months ago

WTF are the attorneys going to do, sue? $230M is a total scam. Why is it OK to blame automaker CEOs for being bad for making money, then cry when a few crook scammers are denied their ‘fair share’? Also, Fuck. Shawn. Fain. This is going to ultimately drive more jobs out of the USA. Not today, not tomorrow, but in 5 years?

The Dude
The Dude
6 months ago
Reply to  Ryanola

So long as corporations put shareholders first, jobs will always be leaving the US.

Ben
Ben
6 months ago

the directors ended up settling and returning over $700 million

Imagine having the kind of money that you can just refund 9 figures when someone gets mad at you. I honestly can’t.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
6 months ago
Reply to  Ben

Well, there’s 8 board members, so that’s $87.5 million apiece, and Larry Ellison is worth $140 billion, and two other board members are Elon Musk and his brother Kimball, that’s 3 of the 8 right there

Nic Periton
Nic Periton
6 months ago
Reply to  Ben

I have a start up business that might just be the right thing at the right time;

Nic’s Tumbrills and blade sharpening, please also look at listings for knitting requisites and inflammable pitchforks.

Is it just me or have we got some bits of “sensible behavior” really badly fucking wrong?

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
6 months ago

Not the LEAST bit surprised that Weasel Boy dose not want to pay the bills. The shit he pulls really is beyond shame at this point. The obvious lack of any morals is one reason I have no interest in anything his cos. sell or promote. Fool me once, and all that stuff…My dog’s turds have more moral fiber and integrity than Weasel Boy ever had.

Not sure about the SEC. My limited experience with that has also been a huge disappointment. Like trying to talk to a brick. The issue with that is while you are trying to expose a situation, and wait for action, millions of people are still exposed to a possibly corrupt process that can/will adversely affect their own financial welfare.YMMV.

Last edited 6 months ago by Col Lingus
Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
6 months ago

It sounds like he should’ve complained to the FTC rather than the SEC.

Pupmeow
Pupmeow
6 months ago

I’m an in-house attorney (i.e., I work for a manufacturing company, not a law firm). I spend a good chunk of time explaining to my coworkers why they do not want to sue another company. It’s very expensive, it’s a MASSIVE time suck, it destroys a relationship, and even with all the facts and laws on your side, you might lose. Even if you win, expect it to take 1-3 years.

And yes, the outside attorneys get paid no matter what. 🙂

SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
6 months ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

I’d rather be in Hiroshima on Aug 6 1945 than sit through another deposition*

*It wasn’t even my battle. I was only a fact witness and it’s only 2 1/2 hours long

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
6 months ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

The good thing is that the lawyers on both sides are saying to their people the same thing. You only want to force legal action if you’ve exhausted everything else, up to and including just absorbing the cost of whatever went down, when it’s B2B – because litigation will probably cost more than whatever happened.

Arch Duke Maxyenko
Arch Duke Maxyenko
6 months ago

See if you can order a motocompacto and drive the leaf to pick it up.

Parsko
Parsko
6 months ago

You might want to call an Uber or walk.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
6 months ago
Reply to  Parsko

Walk is an option, enriching the Uber corporate scum further is not. Maybe go old school and take a cab? If you can find one these days. At least the back seat should be cleaner than any of DT’s vehicles.

Droid
Droid
6 months ago

click and clack used to day that the fewer cars you own in a lifetime results in a more exciting life…mostly from breaking down and meeting serial killers by the side of the road.
take the wrangler

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
6 months ago

Of course you don’t eat anything in the fridge. You’re supposed to eat in the shower.

Goof
Goof
6 months ago

Also, I’m writing this from David’s couch, which is where I slept last night. His parting words to me before I went to sleep were “Don’t eat anything in the fridge, trust me.”

This is because if you eat anything in the dark after midnight, you’ll undergo a Gremlins-like process. Orange fuzzballs will sprout and release from your back, turning into feral kittens that will escape and run amok throughout the city as they seek out Jeeps to take over.

Detroit-Lightning
Detroit-Lightning
6 months ago

It’s a shame, Tesla makes some pretty cool cars (I’m not a fan personally, but it’s hard to argue that their vehicles / charging network aren’t impressive), but they (musk) are such absolute pieces of shit.

It’s not even arguable at this point, it’s just a constant flow of stories of them not paying bills, following regulations, treating workers/partners like shit, etc.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
6 months ago

I will never consider a Tesla product regardless of how competitive they might be. The combination of Musk, their absolutely insufferable fanbase, and the fact that their interiors are essentially the equivalent of a Scandinavian prison cells makes them non starters for me.

PL71 Enthusiast
PL71 Enthusiast
6 months ago

They are also the personification (corporatification?) of everything I hate about big business and their need to focus on shareholder value at the expense of literally everything else except for the pay of their highest level jerkoffs.

SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
6 months ago

Musk certainly *isn’t* focusing on Twatter’s shareholder value, so there’s that.

Angrycat Meowmeow
Angrycat Meowmeow
6 months ago

I would feel a lot better about the company if pretty much anyone else was at the top. I wish they’d force him out already. Tesla doesn’t need him to be successful.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
6 months ago

Tesla accused of doing something shady? Must be a day that ends in “y”. Although barring CEO shenanigans the rest of the company does seem to have cleaned up their financial act. On an unrelated note I wonder when the next report of racism on the factory floor will come out.

Usernametaken
Usernametaken
6 months ago

Gotta not get there FOR THE LOLZ CONTENT.

Last edited 6 months ago by Usernametaken
10001010
10001010
6 months ago

So you’re taking the Leaf and videoing the attempt?

Goof
Goof
6 months ago
Reply to  10001010

I was going to joke that it’s small and wouldn’t be too bad to push the rest of the way, but a 2012 Nissan Leaf is around 3400lbs!

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