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The Mystery Of The Confusing Background In A Honda Brochure Has Been Solved And It’s Way Better Than You Think

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If you look through last week’s entries in your dream journal, it’s likely that you had a bunch of dreams last week of peculiar European cityscapes and old 1970s Honda Civics because of a post I wrote last week, one about a 1975 Honda Civic brochure that showed U.S.-spec Civics in a strange hybrid French-German-generic European setting that I was having trouble identifying. Well, because we have the finest and, according to a recent study by the American Dental Association, sexiest readership, a super-sleuth reader named Erik Hancock figured out exactly where that brochure was shot, and, incredibly, it’s both much more unexpected and much more familiar than you’d imagine. I bet you’ve seen it before. For example, have you ever watched that Netflix show The Good Place? With Ted Danson, the guy from Becker, that show no one remembers? If so, then keep reading. I mean, keep reading no matter what.

First, let me recap for you some of the pictures from the old Honda brochure:

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Okay, got the scene there? Now, here’s a comparison of these pictures to pictures of Universal Studio’s European Street shooting lot:

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That sure looks pretty damn close! Let’s check another angle:

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Yep, that’s it! Honda shot this ad not in Europe, but on the Universal Studios lot that’s meant to look like some chunk of Europe. They threw in some dudes in lederhosen and some California-spec Honda Civics, and boom, there’s the brochure.

This same lot was also used as the set for the heaven-but-actually-hell of the show The Good Place, as you can see it here in this promo trailer from when it was on NBC, which I guess it was:

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It’s interesting to see how much this set can get transformed, detail and surface-wise, yet is still identifiable, even though over 40 years separated the shooting of the Honda brochure and The Good Place. 

Incredibly, the European Street set was built way back in 1967, and has been used in a crapload of movies and TV shows, from the A-Team to Zohan, You Don’t Mess With The. Even better, in this one postcard (a scan from the Dickens Collection) you can see that a Jeep FC was being employed as a camera car in the venerable European Street set:

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I really admire Erik’s ability to see something familiar here, and it’s also interesting to consider that major studio movie sets would be used for car brochures. I mean, I suppose that makes complete sense, but it’s not really something I’d considered. It’s also an interesting move from Honda in 1975, when they were still just getting established in the U.S. market. This brochure was for the American market; I wonder why they decided to show it in a European setting, even a fake one? It feels like a strange choice, when they could have shot Civics in Los Angeles or San Francisco or New York or wherever.

Anyway, next time you’re around someplace where someone has The Good Place playing on a television, be sure to point at the screen and shriek “HEY! THAT’S WHERE THEY SHOT A HONDA BROCHURE IN 1975!”

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Everyone will think you’re super cool, I promise.

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Mr E
Mr E
9 months ago

Sort of auto commercial related: Progressive Insurance filmed a (admittedly rather lame) commercial at Tech Toys in Parsippany, NJ on Route 46. I’ve no idea why they selected that location. I worked briefly in the office building right next door.

Yes I Drive A 240
Yes I Drive A 240
9 months ago

it’s also interesting to consider that major studio movie sets would be used for car brochures. I mean, I suppose that makes complete sense, but it’s not really something I’d considered.

This is actually way more common than I think people realize, especially here in SoCal. If the ad isn’t showing the car driving on a road like Mulholland, sitting by the beach, driving through DTLA or hitting the corners of Willow Springs/Irwindale, it was probably filmed on the Universal or WB backlot.

Harris K Telemacher
Harris K Telemacher
9 months ago

This should be a regular feature on this site. A weekly detective article. Post a picture from an old car brochure, and then have the detectives track down where it was taken. Like the picture you posted awhile ago that was taken in front of that little park “train” station. For some reason, I love tracking down where photos were taken or where movies were filmed.

VanGuy
VanGuy
9 months ago

Maybe remove the spoiler in your description of The Good Place? I only saw it for the first time since the pandemic, and I think having that spoiled would just about ruin the first season for a new viewer.

KC Murphy
KC Murphy
9 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I agree on that one.

Ben
Ben
9 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

As a serious spoiler-phobic person I don’t disagree, but I have to admit hearing that made me more interested in watching the show.

VanGuy
VanGuy
9 months ago
Reply to  Ben

It’s a fantastic show and I highly recommend it. Prepare tissues for the finale of season 4

Auto Guy
Auto Guy
9 months ago

Nice detective work! Spoiler alert: We always knew it wasn’t Europe, since the Honda had a US-format license plate, and more importantly, US-spec side markers, which are not allowed in Yurrup.

Yes I Drive A 240
Yes I Drive A 240
9 months ago
Reply to  Auto Guy

The plate/lights don’t always matter/dictate where it was filmed. I was a lot of uh… questionable streams and I’ve seen plenty of European car ads filmed in the US, sometimes for cars they don’t even sell here.

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
9 months ago

That’s super neat (thumbs up emoji)

Were any car brochures ever shot in the BTTF Hill Valley plaza?

Jason Smith
Jason Smith
9 months ago

I have a feeling Autopians are scouring old ads as I type this…

Yes I Drive A 240
Yes I Drive A 240
9 months ago

Yes, in fact there was a recent one from the last year or two (sorry, can’t remember the brand) with one filmed in that part of the backlot.

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
9 months ago

Shooting a Honda ad on the Universal Studios European Streets set in 1975 makes sense.

This was the height of Detroit’s Malaise Era and European cars were perceived as superior to American steel. Japanese automakers were still fighting for position in the U.S. market but were already gaining a reputation for quality and reliability.

Placing a Honda on a seemingly European street being gleefully accepted by the local populace–presumably ignoring all the German cars they could easily buy–sends a powerful message.

“Hey Americans, you can get the same quality in a Japanese car for less!”

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
9 months ago

Ford had sort of the same idea by shipping a Granada to West Germany to have German engineers measure the decibels inside so they could show how impressed they were about it being almost as quiet as a Mercedes, in addition to looking exactly like one, and I mean indistinguishable, uncanny

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
9 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

I’ve always heard that the Grenada was supposed to be Ford’s attempt at competing with Mercedes, though I never really saw too much of a resemblance. They always looked more like 7:8 scale LTDs.

To be fair, they actually did have a decent ride, but they were nowhere near being in the same class as a Mercedes.

EricTheViking
EricTheViking
9 months ago

Ford even had those “comparison” advertisements with Mercedes-Benz W116 S-Class (probably 280 S/280 SE, “poverty-spec” S-Class in the late 1970s) and C107.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzIVJlOPwxQ

https://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/2016/08/13/the-1975-1980-ford-granada-had-a-simple-and-effective-ad-campaign-copying-the-cars-you-really-want/

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
9 months ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

That just seems so stupid, but since it’s Ford, they probably had some spredsheets showing that it would pay off 😎

KC Murphy
KC Murphy
9 months ago

but they were nowhere near being in the same class as a Mercedes.

I would imagine the person in charge of this ad campaign left the auto industry and started work in chain restaurant marketing departments coming up with dessert names such as “Better Than Sex Cheesecake.”

Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
9 months ago

Suspicion confirmed.
‘Cold Start’ is Jason’s dream journal.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
9 months ago

lmfao. This site is awesome.

Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
9 months ago

Whatchu talkin bout Jason? I know Ted Danson, from cheers, 3 men and a baby, inc, and yes Becker. What the heck is this new place show you talkin bout?

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr Sarcastic

Becker is awesome 😀

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
9 months ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

Indeed. Danson totally embraced the lovable grump in that show.

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
9 months ago

I’m just disappointed that no one has recognized this set from Young Frankenstein.

A. Barth
A. Barth
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

To be fair (to be faaaaaairrr) YF was in black and white and the street is clearly in color. 😉

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
9 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

+1 for Letterkenny content. Take your danged star.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

Holy shit! Been sitting here wondering why that was so damn familiar. One of the funniest movies ever.

KC Murphy
KC Murphy
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

It’s been a while since I’ve seen it — is this where the “Need a hand?” “No thanks, have one” scene was filmed?

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
9 months ago
Reply to  KC Murphy

Yes, that’s it.

EXL500
EXL500
9 months ago

I remember Becker. It was a great show.

Freelivin1327
Freelivin1327
9 months ago
Reply to  EXL500

Hell yeah, it was hilarious! A doctor who smokes! I liked it

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
9 months ago
Reply to  EXL500

It was a pretty good show. Jadzia Dax even left DS9 for it.

i3 Driving Indicator Fetishist
i3 Driving Indicator Fetishist
9 months ago

Loved that show, this is forkin great!

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
9 months ago

I didn’t even think of a set lot: when I saw the headline, I was thoroughly expecting that the street would turn out to be from a Disney park.

edit-but a set lot is better because I immediately imagine shenanigans behind the facades. I may have watched Blazing Saddles a few too many times back in the day

Last edited 9 months ago by TOSSABL
Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
9 months ago
Reply to  TOSSABL

That was the first thing that came to my mind. There’s nothing behind the walls but the 2x4s holding them up!

Data
Data
9 months ago

I remember Ted Danson from CSI, Becker, a little remembered show that was cancelled after 11 seasons; Cheers. I also seem to recall him in some Three men and a Baby/Little Lady movies, a relationship with Whoopi Goldberg, a black face incident, a cameo in Saving Private Ryan, and some HBO show with the grown up kid from Rushmore. Amazingly, I never saw The Good Place. I hear it was forking good, though.

Jdoubledub
Jdoubledub
9 months ago
Reply to  Data

Liked for the Bored to Death reference

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
9 months ago
Reply to  Jdoubledub

That was a cool show.

OrigamiSensei
OrigamiSensei
9 months ago

This is good Autopian and exactly the sort of hard-hitting automotive journalism I crave.

Gregory Haberek
Gregory Haberek
9 months ago

For example, have you ever watched that Netflix show The Good Place?

Excuse me sir The Good Place is an NBC show. Pretty sure Netflix has the streaming rights because entirety of the show predates the start of NBC’s own Peacock service.

With Ted Danson, the guy from Becker, that show no one remembers?

Hey I remember Becker. It was a perfectly cromulent sitcom! Mostly watchable and occasionally entertaining.

AssMatt
AssMatt
9 months ago

I liked Cranky Danson. And Shawnee Smith made a big impression, too.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
9 months ago
Reply to  AssMatt

Two big impressions, in fact.

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
9 months ago
Reply to  AssMatt

I forgot about Shawnee. They did a great job casting the women of that show.

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
9 months ago
Reply to  AssMatt

I kind of think Doc Martin took a few cues from Becker. Cranky doctor with eccentric receptionist(s).

William Eby
William Eby
9 months ago

Becker? What about Cheers? The show you should have remembered, even though it’s older? (He was also on CSI, taking over as the “lead” when Lawrence Fishborne left?)

Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones
9 months ago

I feel fairly confident that Torch was deliberately trolling with both of those statements.

It would be like describing Dwayne Johnson as “the large guy from GI Joe: Retaliation.” A true statement, but also probably not the first thing that would come to mind.

Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
9 months ago
Reply to  Daniel Jones

Definitely, we can all agree that would be the Tooth Fairy.

Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr Sarcastic

Coming January 22nd “You can’t handle the tooth!”

Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
9 months ago
Reply to  Daniel Jones

Right. 2007’s ‘The Game Plan’ was his biggest hit.

RataTejas
RataTejas
9 months ago
Reply to  Daniel Jones

Former Calgary Stampeder, Dwayne Johnson.

Mark
Mark
9 months ago

That’s Three Men and A Baby‘s Ted Danson, thank you very much!

E P
E P
9 months ago

I actually had found out about this set because of a recent coincidence in which I saw the Rodgers and Hammerstein Cinderella for the first time and went nearly insane trying to find out why the town looked so familiar. It was, of course, the European Street Set, and it was familiar from The Good Place. It was a relief to figure out, if only to preserve my sanity!

A. Barth
A. Barth
9 months ago

How do we know the Universal Studios location isn’t actually a replica of a real European place?

Dsa Lkjh
Dsa Lkjh
9 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Genius!

LTDScott
LTDScott
9 months ago

Huh, now that you’ve pointed this out I immediately recognize it because a friend of mine was on that set a few years ago and posted a bunch of photos of himself in front of buildings featured in The Good Place. I really enjoyed that show.

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
9 months ago

A. This is a fantastically useless piece of information, which is the best kind of information

B. Jason, you’re sleeping on The Good Place. It’s pretty much a perfect show. Every season is the best season, and the last episode is maybe the best finale I’ve ever seen. I still think about it from time to time

Chris Stevenson
Chris Stevenson
9 months ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

If you can somehow go in with no spoilers, Jason, you’re in for a real treat.

Dsa Lkjh
Dsa Lkjh
9 months ago

I enjoyed it plenty the second time around, when I already knew the butler did it.

It’s so brilliant that the big things are overshadowed by all the amazing little things.

Chris Stevenson
Chris Stevenson
9 months ago
Reply to  Dsa Lkjh

I managed to avoid spoilers and watched season one without knowing about the cliffhanger. One of my all-time favorite TV surprises.

OrigamiSensei
OrigamiSensei
9 months ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

Ah, the show where I learned that any problem can be solved with the judicious application of a Molotov Cocktail. The Good Place is truly one of the all time great TV comedies.

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
9 months ago
Reply to  OrigamiSensei

Jortles!

Andreas8088
Andreas8088
9 months ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

Fully agree. I don’t think there was really anything bad about that show, which is really saying something.

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
9 months ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

I loved the first season but the third pretty much lost me. But I have a hard time sticking with TV shows no matter what.

Nycbjr
Nycbjr
9 months ago

always amazes me that passenger side mirrors weren’t standard in this era, how did we ever change lanes safely? lol

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
9 months ago
Reply to  Nycbjr

With a center mirror and a complete lack of 18 inch wide d pillars.

The passenger side mirror is entirely redundant in my single cab pickup, the center mirror has the same field of view.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
9 months ago
Reply to  Nycbjr

It was a time when men were men and women were women. People stayed in their lanes.

Beer-light Guidance
Beer-light Guidance
9 months ago
Reply to  Nycbjr

I’ve always assumed that people were a lot better about getting the heck out of the left lane so moving back to the right was a lot safer.

DysLexus
DysLexus
9 months ago
Reply to  Nycbjr

Honda Engineer Team Meeting 1:

Intern: “What about a right sided mirror, you know for safety?”

Engineers: (raucous laughter) “so how many vehicles do you realistically think this CIVIC is going to pass anyway?”

Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
9 months ago
Reply to  DysLexus

You dont need passenger side mirrors if you drive fast enough.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
9 months ago
Reply to  Nycbjr

Passenger side mirrors weren’t standard on some cars a lot later than that. My first car as a newly minted 16 year old driver was a brand new 89 Nissan Sentra bare bones base model. Sans radio, sans vanity mirror, sans wheel covers, sans power locks, and yes, sans passenger side mirror.

George Daily
George Daily
9 months ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

The type of car I wish they made today… No frills. Lived my life with cars like that “I don’t need Stinking Mirrors!”

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
9 months ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

Was anything avec beyond four wheels and a seat?

Tacofan
Tacofan
9 months ago
Reply to  Nycbjr

My brand new 1992 Ford Escort was the base model missing everything from a radio to AC, electronic locks and windows, along with a passenger side mirror. As a 17 year old driver I didn’t miss it too much.

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
9 months ago
Reply to  Tacofan

My VW Fox was the same. It was tossable though. Nothing like a car made light by a lack of options.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
9 months ago
Reply to  Nycbjr

They’re still not technically required under FMVSS, but try and sell a car without one now

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
9 months ago

Honda probably wanted to tout some European cache to up their street cred in the US.

Opa Carriker
Opa Carriker
9 months ago

I still call bullshit on this one.

Ben Novak
Ben Novak
9 months ago
Reply to  Opa Carriker

I think you mean bullshirt, don’t you?

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