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This Old News Footage Of A Seedy Area Of Boston Is A Great Sample Of What The Mid-’80s Carscape Was Like

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Have you ever wanted to travel back in time? What about for really mundane, terrible reasons? Like, instead of viewing monumental moments of history or making small changes that will cascade to better humankind’s situation overall, you just wanted to go to Boston’s former red-light and general smut district and see what sort of cars were there? If that’s something that’s been a dream of yours, but money or medical issues are preventing you from using one of our nation’s fine bonded and licensed time-travel agencies, then boy, do I have good news for you!

The good news is that there exists a nice chunk of video from 1985, shot originally by Boston’s WGBH-TV station, which you likely remember as the producers of Zoom. In a slight departure from the usual content of shows like Zoom, this bit of footage shows the traffic around an area of Boston known as the “Combat Zone.”

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This area of town was once lauded by the Wall Street Journal as being a “sexual Disneyland.” I mean, I assume that was praise?

But we’re here to talk about cars, not imagining what a carnal version of Space Mountain would be like! So let’s check out the footage:

I was first made aware of this footage by our own The Bishop, who noted that the footage really seemed to capture what normal, everyday cars were like in the mid-’80s. And, generally, I think he’s pretty correct: this footage really does seem to capture what the overall carscape was like in the middle of the ’80s, at least on the East Coast.

Things felt a little different out West, with more imports, proportionately, I think. Also, these clips don’t show any old air-cooled Volkswagens, which I remember as being fairly common even well into the ’80s.

Here’s another GBH-shot video, highlighting Boston’s double-parking woes, and it also really captures the overall feeling of mid-’80s traffic:

Let’s take a look at some of the automotive recurring characters of the era! I do want to note that Ford Tempo up in the topshot, because those are all but extinct now, and were once surprisingly common. Now you’re more likely to run into a Sasquatch on the road.

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Oh, and speaking of once common and now essentially extinct, that car up there is the poster child for that phenomenon: a first-gen Honda Accord sedan. That one looks like a 1980 (or maybe 1981), the exact same year and color as my mom’s car in that era. That one is a five-speed instead of an automatic like mom’s, but still.

These Accords were wildly popular, a best-selling car that really made the Big Three fearful of Japan, and now they’re pretty much extinct, except in captivity. I see more unrestored old Beetles trundling around than Accords a decade newer. Where did they all go?

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Even the second-gen Accords, which arrived in 1982, have all essentially vanished. I dated a woman who had one of these in the late ’90s, so they were still around then, at least.

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Cars like this Chevy Celebrity were the water in which we swam; ubiquitous and ignorable, these boxy things were everywhere, a filler like rice in the poke bowl of the automotive landscape, if you’ll permit me some metaphor mixing.

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If the Celebrity was rice, this blue Saab 900 was a big chunk of tuna: less common, but tastier. These were interesting cars for people who wanted something a bit less normal, and they got it, starting their cars by reaching down to their key in the floor. That brown Chevy van behind it was another unseen-but-everywhere sort of vehicle, too.

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Look, there’s another brown van, this one a Ford Econoline (I was wrong earlier, so thanks to commenters for catching that) lurking at the right edge there, but I want to talk about the Mercedes-Benz SL there, which I think is a 450 SL, with the big 4.5-liter V8. That was a classy ride!

Also, see that Ford Maverick ahead and to the right of the Benz? With the huge dent in the rear quarter panel?

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Somehow all Mavericks seemed to be in this general condition throughout the 1980s. They weren’t even all that old when this footage was taken – that car is probably, what, nine or 10 years old? The oldest it could be is 15, which is not that far off from the average age of a car on US roads today. Cars just aged harder back in the day, and didn’t really last as long.

Speaking of aging harder, see that Ford Granada reversing into the spot up there, in front of the Maverick? There’s a detail there that seemed to be part of every single Granada Ford made: the broken reverse light lens:

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You can see it on the right there, from the video. And on the left, I have the Granada used in the movie No Country for Old Menwhich also has a reverse light lens broken! They all did, for some reason. I think they either came from the factory that way, or Ford was making reverse light lenses out of spun sugar or something like that.

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Look at this mass of ’80s iron! There are a couple of interesting specimens up front, a BMW 3-Series, and to its left, what seems to be a 1983 or so Toyota Celica notchback! I always liked the pop-forward lights on those. There’s a Chrysler K-Car parked on the left, too, and what could be the D-pillar of a Volvo 240 wagon?

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This has to be the jewel of these bits of footage, though: a second-generation (’81-’83) Dodge Challenger, which was a re-badged Mitsubishi Galant Lambda. This one is particularly fetching in its two-tone red-and-gray paintwork.

If you’re nostalgic for mid-’80s carscapes, I hope this helped. I think if anything, it probably took a bit of luster off your nostalgia?

Anyway, I wonder what’s playing at The Pilgrim today?

Top graphic image: Screen grab, WGBH

 

 

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Dolsh
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Dolsh
2 days ago

I can’t unsee all the cars that didn’t clean the snow off their car and merrily continued driving.

Just like too many people 40 years later…

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
2 days ago

First generation Honda Accords rusted like they were Italian. The carscape looks very similar to NYC in that era. IIRC WGBH also produced the science show Nova, as well as giving us Zoom.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
2 days ago

“which you likely remember as the producers of Zoom.”

Being on the west coast I never heard of this and after watching that intro I look back at my ignorance with envy. Holy mother of God that was TERRIBLE!

Now if you’ll excuse me I need to find some bleach.

“This area of town was once lauded by the Wall Street Journal as being a “sexual Disneyland.”

Having just watched a YouTube video on Disney *adults* I’m now even more grossed out by that depictor.

Last edited 2 days ago by Cheap Bastard
Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
2 days ago

Wonderful

Jason Roth
Jason Roth
2 days ago

These are magnificent, and I could name just about everything on screen in real time.

And I agree that it’s a little surprising to see zero VWs (not even a Rabbit). Probably all across the river. Not in Boston, but near Boston…

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
2 days ago
Reply to  Jason Roth

There is a brown rabbit in the double parking video. – where is over the river? I’m in Australia but my partner is from Boston.
She’s not allowed to drive my cars.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
2 days ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

The People’s Republic of Cambridge. Commies there. They love them ferrin cars

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
2 days ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

oh. ok. you would probably hate Australia then.

Jose Canusi
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Jose Canusi
2 days ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

“the People’s Republic of Cambridge” was a slur at one point, now pretty much embraced by the left-leaning populace. I assume Dan was being lovingly sarcastic.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
2 days ago
Reply to  Jose Canusi

Yes – very much the sarcasm and affection. Other than trying to drive around or purchase housing, I think Cambridge is great!

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 day ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

All good. I’m still learning about USA demographics (and humour haha). I asked My partner about cambridge today and she explained the north/south divide a bit better. We have the same thing here in Melbourne, Australia with the north side of Melbourne being similar to your Cambridge. (Universities, tech companies and overpriced apartments). Can’t wait to get there one day!

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 day ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

And all of the tony suburbs were filled to the brim with foreign cars, still are. The Combat Zone was a VERY working class area.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 day ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

So many G-Wagens in Wellesley

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 day ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

And Weston.

All those trophy wives need all that off-road capability, I guess.

Last edited 1 day ago by Kevin Rhodes
JAG_in_TN
JAG_in_TN
2 days ago

As a kid in the 80’s, I can remember vividly the sides of streets and parking lots were covered in disgusting puddles of oil, transmission fluid and anitfreeze.

A. Barth
A. Barth
2 days ago

But we’re here to talk about cars, not imagining what a carnal version of Space Mountain would be like!

Space Mountin’

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
2 days ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Is there a carnal COTD?

Jonee Eisen
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Jonee Eisen
2 days ago

The GBH Archives is a time machine treasure trove. It’s a rabbit hole I go down fairly often.

Lotsofchops
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Lotsofchops
2 days ago

My stereotype of Bostonians makes me surprised I don’t see baseball bats aimed at double-parked assholes. Or maybe that’s wishful thinking.

TheFanciestCat
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TheFanciestCat
2 days ago

I love watch old video footage like this. My friends and I movie nights, and when the movie is over, we will put on something like this in the background and occasionally watch and talk about it.

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito
2 days ago

The WGBH Archives social media accounts are a true collective national treasure. Growing up in the Boston area myself (I am actually typing this in Boston right now), this is really how I remember the city from when I was growing up. It was gritty, dirty, and risky, and just dangerous enough to make it kinda fun.

They constantly post videos like this from the 70’s-90’s, which is just awesome for car dorks like us. Tons and tons of B-roll footage of Malaise Era barges and the like ambling around old Boston and surrounding towns. There are a few great ones, including one of a guy in a 70’s El Camino that got into an accident in a rotary, and he’s out of the car arguing!

Also, wait until you see the Two-Mobile. Your heads will explode.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
2 days ago
Reply to  Tony Sestito

Hahaha! I forgot about the 2 mobile! Yes. Epic.

There was also the Dirty Old Boston socials a while back

My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
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My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
2 days ago

Nostalgia glasses on: A distinctly American automotive patina was certainly a distinctive element of the time and place. Long before global platforms were the norm aside a handful of exceptions of the time (think: Chevette, Ford Escort, some Japanese examples) each major market definitely had its own thing going on.

Domestic automakers of each part of the world very much catered to their own audience. Japanese automakers would not be considered more American than America until the 1990s at the earliest.

This still exists to some extent: pickup trucks are a very America thing, most global vehicles are sized up for North American consumption. Japanese kei cars are very Japan. European nationalism still means brands like Citroen, Fiat, SEAT, and Skoda still have their own going ons, even of they share the guts of larger conglomerate vehicles.

But the Crown Victorias and Caprices died out, the Mustangs and Corvettes went upscale to be proper sports cars. Cutlasses became Camrys which begat RAV4s. Cadillac went Euro luxury.

Nostalgia glasses off: I’m pretty sure every Chevrolet Celebrity ever made came pre-rusted off the assembly line and I’m almost certain some of those double parked cars are worth less than the towing bill to get them out of the impound lot.

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
2 days ago

“Also, these clips don’t show any old air-cooled Volkswagens, which I remember as being fairly common even well into the ’80s.”
Yeah, a combination of factors such as road salt, geography, and economics, etc, etc, would account for the wildly variable distribution of air-cooled VWs around the country.
My hometown was a college town in East Tennessee, nestled amongst the Appalachians and a relatively short drive from the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So air-cooled VWs were indeed ubiquitous around here because college students could afford them and natives appreciated them for ease of maintenance and the ability to get around in the hills & mountains year-round. These VWs were a common sight well into the late 1990s and even early 2000s.
Alas, once the internet came into widespread use around here such VWs pretty quickly entered the realm of “I know what I have” pricing; so many ended up as garage queens only to be rarely taken on outings to get ice cream with the grandchildren and so many others ended up being spirited away to other locales into the hands of the more affluent…
Shortly before the pandemic started one of my kids visited L.A. for a couple of weeks and with some great envy reported seeing so many air-cooled VWs and older Subarus (as well as other older Japanese cars) just tootling around (at the time my kid had a 35-plus-year-old Subaru station wagon that had unfortunately just succumbed to rust though it did faithfully provide a good number of years of service prior to that.)

Last edited 2 days ago by Collegiate Autodidact
Jerkstore
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Jerkstore
2 days ago

In the news business, this kind of footage is known as B-roll. In this first example, however, it’s B-roll, C-roll and Double D-roll.

Baltimore Paul
Baltimore Paul
2 days ago

When Hemmings had online features they ran a bit called ‘Car Spotting’ by Daniel Strohl (spelling?). He would post a vintage photograph of a street scene or a parking lot and the readers would comment on it and point out the different kinds of cars we saw. Could Autopian do that?

Beached Wail
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Beached Wail
2 days ago
Reply to  Baltimore Paul

There’s a now-defunct but still online version of this at theoldmotor.com. The publisher would upload old Kodachromes of US city scenes and the commentariat would have at it. You’d quickly learn key differences between ’48 and ’49 Hudsons, or how to tell a Biscayne from a Bel Air. Plus automotive scenes from, say, 60-70 years ago are generally interesting for the wealth of details.

MagnumWindsor
MagnumWindsor
2 days ago

Ooh! Chevy Celebrity! The official car of 1990’s divorced dads!

Last edited 2 days ago by MagnumWindsor
Phonebem
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Phonebem
2 days ago
Reply to  MagnumWindsor

I most associate it with mid-to-late 90’s high school parking lots. I swear, half my classmates had them when I graduated in 97.

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
2 days ago
Reply to  MagnumWindsor

My grandma had one. I remember it rather fondly as a nice car, though that’s probably because the crapcans we had were always old and held together with duct tape and prayers.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
2 days ago

My heart skipped a bit at the close up of Boston Bunnies.. I was expecting to see myself get out of the passenger seat of a red Tempo. I was, not honored, not proud, I guess inflicted (?) with being one of the last patrons of Boston Bunnies. All these places shut down not long after this video. Now, the phrase “sexual Disneyland isn’t exactly accurate.. I’d put it more along the lines of “sexual roadside reptile farm”..But man that video was a flashback.. I spend a lot of time in Boston at the time.

Howie
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Howie
2 days ago
Reply to  Peter Spinale

The naked i lasted into the early 90s, but just 2 clubs left now. Super gentrified neighborhood. Cambridge st in Gov Ctr still looks like that, traffic-wise

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
2 days ago

I’m thinking this must be early 85 at the latest. I dont see any composite headlights. Also – so many G and B body GMs! The Cutlass was insanely popular.

Pneumatic Tool
Pneumatic Tool
2 days ago

I watch a bunch of 80’s/90’s (mostly forgotten) movies on Tubi, just to catch scenes like these – cars of the day just doing their thing behind the action. Sometimes I pause it just to see a particular one in passing.

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
2 days ago

I watched the two seasons of “Banacek” and was distracted by a lot of establishing shots’ cars (those were filmed around Boston, though it was filmed mostly in Hollywood studios, which also had some nice, mostly extinct, cars).

86TVan
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86TVan
2 days ago

You feel good, good, good about Hood!!!

Kleinlowe
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Kleinlowe
2 days ago

I saw Sexual Disneyland live back in 09. They were ok, but other bands have done the J-pop/retropunk/folk fusion thing better since then. The ‘Sex and Candy’ cover was fairly legit, tho.

Last edited 2 days ago by Kleinlowe
ColoradoFX4
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ColoradoFX4
2 days ago

Granada Taillight is the father of Camry Dent.

LarsVargas
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LarsVargas
2 days ago
Reply to  ColoradoFX4

Came here to say this; glad you beat me to it.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
2 days ago
Reply to  ColoradoFX4

Thought this earlier but got squirreled into making another comment and forgot what I was looking for…

Why yes I am in my late 40’s, why do you ask?

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
2 days ago
Reply to  Phonebem

Are you still alarmed by the aphasia, or have you learned to roll with it?

Phonebem
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Phonebem
2 days ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

At this point I’ve just kind of learned to roll with it. Between the effects of being in my 40’s and parenting an elementary aged kid, my brain is basically mush at this point…

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
2 days ago
Reply to  Phonebem

It’s nice that it makes me pick silence sometimes hahaha

ColoradoFX4
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ColoradoFX4
1 day ago
Reply to  Phonebem

Right there with you. The back pain is a nice bonus too.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
1 day ago
Reply to  ColoradoFX4

Yeah, my back would be a complete mess if it weren’t for 5 minutes of daily planking.
You made me stop and think and the only major joints that are working at what would be considered a normal level are probably my elbows and right hip. A lifetime of sports and hobbies that involve treating your body like a rental car with $0 deductible coverage has a way of catching-up…

Gaston
Gaston
2 days ago
Reply to  ColoradoFX4

Genetic mutation

Beer-light Guidance
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Beer-light Guidance
1 day ago
Reply to  ColoradoFX4

Also the 3rd Gen Explorer tailgate crack

Jay Vette
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Jay Vette
2 days ago

The thing that gets me is how many of these cars are cars, and not pickup trucks or SUVs. Nowadays, those two vehicle types probably account for more than half of all traffic, even in the city. I didn’t watch the video, but in those screenshots, I can’t see a single pickup or SUV. Lots of vans though, which is cool.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 day ago
Reply to  Jay Vette

Also, despite the overwash of gray slush and white snow, you can tell that most of the cars are actual colors. Now that grayscale is the norm, city streets like this are just that much more depressing in the winter.

I soooo don’t miss wintahs up north.

Dennis Ames
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Dennis Ames
2 days ago

I went to college from ’83 to ’87, and I recognize the shift going on in the combat zone. the great economy was driving up rents on a lot of the businesses in the zone, and they started going out of business.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
2 days ago
Reply to  Dennis Ames

yeah the “zone” became a street, then part of a street, then about 3 businesses..
I remember Boston Bunnies, what was the other one? Pussycat something?

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
2 days ago
Reply to  Peter Spinale

Pussycat Cinema.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
1 day ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Nice!

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