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This Strange Handbuilt VW Beetle-2CV Hybrid Is Confusing The Hell Out Of Me

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I’ll admit, I do sometimes worry that I focus too much or too often on my own idiosyncratic fetishes for Cold Starts. I do try to branch out – I’ve written about a vast panoply of cars and trucks and engines and details for Cold Start, but it’s true that lately it’s been a bit Citroën 2CV heavy and it’s always been a bit Volkswagen Beetle heavy.

So I guess I want to thank you for your patience and indulgence, and then reward thos admirable traits by abusing them further, as today I’ve found a very strange thing that seems to combine both 2CV and Beetle fixations. I wish I could just ignore it! Just move on and live a rational, healthy life! But I think we all know that’s not possible.

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I saw this strange beast on an Instagram post from Cotière Vintage, a French classic car seller, and my attention was immediately seized, as though this ad had a digital hand that could ensnare my attention’s genitals in a firm, unrelenting grasp:

 

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What exactly is going on here? That looks like a Volkswagen Beetle modified to look something like a combination Citroën 2CV/Mehari sort of thing. It’s like a Beetle re-written in Citroën, French-accented vocabulary. The post notes that the car is rear-engined, which reinforced my assumption that this is some manner of customized Beetle, sitting on the expected Beetle chassis, with an expected VW flat-four in back.

But then the post showed this:

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A look into the engine bay. And it is so not what I expected. That’s not a VW flat-four back there, it’s a Citroën flat-twin, reversed. You can see the inboard drum brakes there, too. It’s oriented 180° differently from its usual location, so some gears must be flipped around inside that transmission, unless it has one forward speed and four in reverse.

I say this because I’m pretty sure whomever built this didn’t source the rear drivetrain from a 2CV Sahara.

The heat exchangers have been replaced with simple J-tubes, but more interesting is the fact that the suspension seems to be completely from the 2CV. While this looks like a VW-based custom of some kind, that’s clearly not a VW pan under there, or, if it is, it’s been pretty heavily modified.

What does the actual ad for this car say about it on the site? I’m very curious. Here’s the description:

Not road-legal; cannot be driven on public roads
Prototype built by a school
In running condition
Rear-mounted engine

That doesn’t help too much, really, except maybe that it was built by a school? And I think it’s more of a project than a prototype, but that’s splitting hairs, I suppose. And maybe it’s not road-legal in France, but I bet there’d be a way to register it here in North Carolina, were I so inclined to spend €4500 in the weirdest way possible.

So what the hell is this thing? Let’s look at it a bit more closely:

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So, I really think most of the body – at least up to the A-pillar– is from a VW Beetle. The way the windshield is cut really looks like those late-Beetle, non-factory convertible conversions that were done to Mexican Beetles in the 1980s to the early 2000s.

Most of the rest of that front end has been replaced with what I think are fiberglass body panels, ones that include headlights and surrounds and indicators from a Citroën Dyane, and I think that hood is a fiberglass reproduction of an early 2CV “ripple bonnet” that can be bought ready-made. I guess that grille is just keeping whatever is in the trunk nice and cool?

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The sides seem to be designed to resemble a Citroën Mehari, the 2CV’s off-road-ish sibling, and seeing that fuel filler peeking up behind the door suggests the fuel tank is mounted behind the seats, which is weird for both 2CV and VW.

Those taillights seem to come from a Peugeot 205, too. As far as the look of the (presumably) fiberglass rear end goes, I have no idea if there was a visual template for that, because I can’t recognize one.

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Inside, it’s still pretty confusing: the basic dash structure looks VW-like, heavily modified to seem more 2CV-like, with the big open storage bins. The parking brake is in the 2CV-style under-dash umbrella handle style, but the oddly tall shifter is where it’d be on a VW, roughly. The instruments are Citroën and some aftermarket stuff, but no sign of VW controls, I don’t think.

The floor kicks up in the front in a non-VW way, but it could be a panel hiding the VW origins of the chassis? There’s so many confusing decisions here!

Cs Vw2cv Int 2I have no idea where these seats are from, other than they don’t look either VW or Citroën. Does this thing have Beetle front torsion bar suspension still? I’d be very curious to see under there, but none of the pictures show that. Also, that roll bar looks like it’s made from TJ Maxx-grade clothes racks, so I’m not sure how much I’d trust it.

Still, the workmanship on this odd beast is very good – whatever school put this together did a great job. I just wish I knew more about what it started as – half a Beetle and half a 2CV? A bunch of parts? I’m very curious.

Whatever it is, it seems a shame it’s not road legal, because it looks like it’d be a pretty fun open roadster thing, guaranteed to confuse everybody! And that’s a good time, at least I think so.

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SCOTT GREEN
SCOTT GREEN
1 month ago

This makes me anxious.

JayJay
JayJay
1 month ago

The back of a Citroën DS station wagon looks a bit like the front of a Dodge SpaceVan. never thought about that before 🙂

https://www.aronline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/BT-Payphones-e1347963136942.jpg

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago

A prototytpe for sale in France?

The Autopian is going to Le Mans!

Clark B
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Clark B
1 month ago

As long as it has a VIN, you could register it here in Indiana. I bought my Sportwagen out of state and all they did to “inspect” it was verify my car had a VIN that matched the title.

The downside to this is the number of absolute death traps I’ve seen driving around.

Knowonelse
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Knowonelse
1 month ago

Ok students, we have a group scavenger project in lieu of our final exam! We’ll split up into five groups of three students. Group 1 gets the front end, 2 gets the rear, 3 has the interior, 4 has the chassis, and 5 gets the drivetrain. Procurements of parts is up to each group and their ability to “redistribute available resources”. You have three weeks, so get going! Discussion between groups is discouraged until parts have been acquired and placed in the shop.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago

Road Legal? In North Carolina just slap a “Farm Use” plate on it and motor on. You can get your hands on one of those, right? In my neighborhood they let adults drive golf carts around so this could fit that bill. Somebody knows how to have fun. I love this.

Who Knows
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Who Knows
1 month ago

It’s obviously a Jeep Thing, since you don’t understand.

Last edited 1 month ago by Who Knows
Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago

Jason, you should check out the youtube channel Hot Rods for Africa. One of his car projects was to take a CV and put it on a Beetle chassis. Its a pretty great project series to watch. And the project is finished, so it won’t leave you hanging.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Since this student project, let’s call it a 2CVW, apparently features altered shapes from at least a Beetle and a 2CV, it must have been built by a reform school.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago

were I so inclined to spend €4500 in the weirdest way possible.

“No. (Sighs) OK, I guess if you can get company money to pay for it, and if you sell another car, preferably the RV, first…”
-Sally, probably.

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago

Well, this is quite the mishmash. Taking inspiration from either side of the WWII trenches and glomming it all together in an unholy matrimony of Let’s Give Torch’s Brain a Wedgie.

And those seats appear to be out of a pontoon boat.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago

At first glance, I thought this curiosity was going to be four-wheel-drive–2CV powertrain up front and VW in the rear. The bodywork is well done although the rear feels visually heavy to me. Nice find!

Avalanche Tremor
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Avalanche Tremor
1 month ago

I’m guessing the school project prompt was “Design and build a car the leader of Jasonia might drive on the weekends”

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
1 month ago

If this was a school project, then I’m thinking maybe it was a project on “how to make a 2cv look more modern” or something like that.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
1 month ago

Ladies and gentlemen. We need to start a Go Fund Me to acquire this machine, get it shipped to Galpin, have them get it into driving condition, then this is the official Autopian vehicle for the next Pebble Beach.

Who’s with me?!? I’ve got eight American dollars to contribute!

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

I’m good for <checks wallet> $12.50 and a Pull-a-Part membership card.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

Hell no! It’s only going to the east coast, Torch’s driveway with maybe a stopoff at SWG’s Evil Wrenching Lair.

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

I’ve got $3.

Y2Keith
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Y2Keith
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

I’ve got a tenner I’d sacrifice. It’s all about the Hamiltons!

Larry B
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Larry B
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

I have some old French Francs and German Deutschmarks.

SlowBrownWagon
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SlowBrownWagon
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

I’ll pitch in all my now-useless pennies and a napkin sketch for an AutoBlow flux-capacitor

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

I live around 600km from it. I can go and pick it up.

I also can contribute with about 20 Euros and 77 Eurocents.

JayJay
JayJay
1 month ago

Horrible creation, but that collection/barn looks cool and interesting!

I can spot a DS wagon, some Reanult 6es, Mehari, Espace series 1, Citroën H van, and a Citroën truck like the one in the Jacques Tati movie, among others..

Lorenzo Dunn
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Lorenzo Dunn
1 month ago

I think a hallucinating AI supplied the blueprints and the school followed them exactly!

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  Lorenzo Dunn

Probably should make sure the urinek isn’t leaking onto the cakecstor then. You don’t ever want your urinek to leak on your cakecstor, ever.

Marcelo Jardim
Marcelo Jardim
1 month ago

My head hurts

Emil Minty
Emil Minty
1 month ago

Vous estes got Beetle in mon Deux Chevaux!

Sie hast put Deux Chevaux in mein Beetle!

Last edited 1 month ago by Emil Minty
JayJay
JayJay
1 month ago
Reply to  Emil Minty

My hovercraft is full of eels.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago
Reply to  JayJay

I will not buy this record, Sir William.

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago
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Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago

One pedal driving? I thought that was just an EV thing.

Angry Bob
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Angry Bob
1 month ago

Yeah, it doesn’t appear to have brakes. Might explain why it’s not road legal.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

Inboard drum brakes can be seen in the engine shot, though that doesn’t mean they are hooked up to anything.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

That requires a $15 a month subscription.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

So it was neither a VW or a Citroen, but a BMW all along…

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Air-cooled flat-twin: R-series.

Mike Harrell
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Mike Harrell
1 month ago

The clutch and brake pedals have the Citroën logo on them and, from their size and shape, look like they’re from a 2CV. They’re visible in this shot but they don’t stand out all that well against the background of the dark floor:

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/cs_vw2cv_int_1.jpg

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

I see them now. I expected them to be lower down. They’re really hiding.

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago

I do sometimes worry that I focus too much or too often on my own idiosyncratic fetishes for Cold Starts

No worries. I think that’s why most of us are here. 🙂

And I’m glad there are still schools that teach things like auto shop.

I was thinking the floorboards were actual boards (wood shop crossover?) but they appear to be vinyl. Look at the last picture above and see how the “boards” split to go around the base of the gear shift and then rejoin one another.

In the penultimate picture: holy massive accelerator pedal, Batman!

Good on ya, kids, and your teacher(s) as well

Data
Data
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Chef’s kiss would have been one of those chrome barefoot footprint pedals.

Steve's House of Cars
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Steve's House of Cars
1 month ago

Wait, you’d register a car in NC?

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago

Farm Use

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
1 month ago

Teacher: For your final exam, I’ll give you two choices. You can write an essay on everything you learned while I was attempting to teach you about human sociology, or… turn my 2CV into a Volkswagen.
Students: Show us to the tools, please.

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