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Two Decades Ago, The Fastest Buick You Could Buy Was A Rare 270 HP Front-Wheel-Drive Regal

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Much of General Motors in the 2000s was in a weird place. GM brands hit home runs one after another as the 20th century wound down, with models like the Buick Grand National, GMC Typhoon, and Chevrolet 454SS going on to achieve icon status. But in the 2000s? Some of GM’s marques had become known for more sedate driving, and one of those was Buick. One car tried changing that. This is the Buick Regal GSX SLP; it was not just the fastest Buick your money could buy in 2003, but it was said to be capable of outrunning lesser (according to GM) German and Japanese sport sedans.

It must have been a ball to be a domestic car enthusiast with cash in your pocket in the 2000s. If you weren’t satisfied with what came out of one of the Big Three’s factories, in many cases you could order a hopped-up version of the car or truck that you wanted and it would be delivered through your dealership, complete with a factory warranty and 50-state emissions certification. Tuners didn’t just offer go-fast versions of cars that the Big Three refused to sell, but also sometimes brought the ideas of certain concept cars to life when the manufacturer itself did not.

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One of the most prolific tuners of this era was Street Legal Performance Engineering (SLP), and the firm was happy to put its magic on everything from the Chevy Blazer and Ford Ranger to Pontiac Firebird and Chevrolet Monte Carlo. While its cars were never official factory variants, they often got their manufacturers’ blessings, which was nearly as good. SLP is still around today, and is happy to sell you parts for your Ford, Dodge, or Chevy pony car, GM truck, Chevrolet Corvette, Ford F-150, or even Chevrolet Sonic.

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One of SLP’s more obscure works is what it did to the Buick Regal. In SLP’s eye, the Buick Regal GSX was the ultimate package as the supercharged V6 sedan offered German sports car performance and luxury but for the lower price of a Buick. More than that, the GSX was supposed to be a return to the fast Buicks of old.

Your Grandparents’ Sleeper

The fourth-generation Buick Regal exists in a bit of a weird place in General Motors’ history. For some, the Regal had hit its peak in the 1980s with the iconic Grand National, the Turbo-T, the T-Type, and the GNX. Back then, Buick was happy to sell you a sinister coupe that was so fast that it could outrun some modern sporty cars today, four decades later.

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Buick followed it up with a hard turn in late 1987, when the Regal moved to General Motors’ W-body platform. The Regal became a front-wheel-drive car, and both of the performance models and their hot engines disappeared. The third-generation Regal spent most of its run making no more than 170 HP. That finally changed in 1996, the Regal’s final year, when it got a Buick L36 3.8-liter V6 good for 205 HP.

As MotorTrend wrote in 1997, Buick’s image had become one of a brand preferred by retirees. There wasn’t necessarily anything wrong with this, but it was a different kind of Buick than enthusiasts had known.

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The fourth-generation model, which launched in 1997, finally put speed and power back on the menu – though in a form factor that enthusiasts perhaps weren’t used to. As the Chicago Tribune writes, the new Regal followed tradition and was based on the Century, which itself rode on the then-latest iteration of the GM W-body platform alongside the Pontiac Grand Prix, Oldsmobile Intrigue, Chevrolet Impala, among other models. The new W-bodies were bigger, roomier, and more comfortable.

On the outside, the Chicago Tribune notes, the metal was all-new, but still conservative. While Buick had been hard at work making bigger, more comfortable, and better-performing cars, it didn’t want to rock the boat too much in styling. The Century and the Cutlass were, as the Chicago Tribune notes, targeting buyers who cared more about function than flashy looks. The Century didn’t even get Buick’s stiffer Grand Touring suspension or 16-inch wheels.

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If you wanted a Buick that was a bit more sporty, that was the job for the mid-size Regal, which originally launched as a 1997 1/2 model, which confused journalists at the time because there wasn’t any real reason for the half to be there. Here’s what MotorTrend said:

The new Regal sedan comes in two tangy flavors-Regal LS and Regal GS. Select an LS and you get the 3.8-liter/195-horsepower V-6 with 220 pound-feet of torque. Gutsy and quiet, this engine provides excellent acceleration and outstanding fuel efficiency at an EPA-rated 19/30 city/highway mpg.

Consider the supercharged 3800. It’s rated at 240 horsepower at 5200 rpm with a V-8-style 280 pound-feet of torque at just 3600 rpm. The GS we tested used this firepower to leap to 60 mph in just 6.6 seconds. This engine, with its Eaton 90 supercharger, is bolted to a beefed-up four-speed automatic, called the 4T65-E. Incredibly, with this engine’s bounty of power Buick estimates the GS’ EPA-rated fuel-economy numbers at 18/28 city/highway mpg. With the premium 4T65-E transaxle, drivers can push a gear-selector-lever button to get higher-rev, performance-style shift points for more spirited road running.

Buick has built the Regal on essentially the same platform and suspension as the Pontiac Grand Prix, so comparisons in terms of ride, structural rigidity, handling, and size are inevitable. But there are important differences. For example, Buick uses four unique rubber isolation bushings between the independent rear suspension’s subframe and the body to reduce road noise and vibration. Pontiac, however, bolts the crossmember directly to the body. And although the front MacPherson struts and lower L-arms basically are identical to the Grand Prix arrangement, Buick has selected much softer rubber suspension bushings. In addition, the Regal’s spring rates and shock damping system are completely different, for handling that is decently crisp without harshness. For more-mainstream buyers, the LS has softer bushings than the GS for an even plusher ride.

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According to MotorTrend, Wayne Kady, chief designer of Buick at the time, said: “The ‘9711/42 Regal has an original, all-new, youthful look specifically designed to be the most expressive sedan in the Buick line.”

Motortrend responded to that by noting that, sure, the Regal did look pretty spiffy, but unlike a boy racer tuner car, the Regal wasn’t adorned with scoops, huge wheels, wings, or an intense body kit. The supercharged 3800 made the Regal GS move with a gusto that wasn’t far behind Buick’s old performance coupes, but the Regal’s design looked like something that your parents would have had no problems taking to church on Sunday.

But for some, that was the problem with the Regal of the 1990s and 2000s. It could hit 60 mph in 6.6 seconds, and it had a nearly bulletproof supercharged V6 that was easily tuned for more power. However, it was wrapped up in a cushy, inoffensive sedan that felt like it had recliners for seats. Period reviews often pegged the Regal as being a “sport sedan,” with Canada’s Driving saying that the Regal was “at least in the same realm as many European touring cars.” The Los Angeles Times said:

You don’t sling a Regal GS around against a Bimmer; but at stop lights alongside Accord, Camry and Taurus owners, you should be able to sneer with intent to commit much mischief. Although you might like to cover that AARP decal in your rear window.

Of course, I have to give you MotorWeek‘s take:

Most reviewers seemed to agree that while the Regal was pretty quick, it was mostly only quick in a straight line. The Regal GS also didn’t quite have the looks that young people were looking for, and some even wondered if making a sporty sedan was even the right move for Buick, considering its older demographic of buyers.

Still, Buick tried to relight some of that old fire, anyway. In 2000, Buick teased the world with the Buick Regal GNX Concept, which took the Regal and gave it a dropped suspension, a wing, upgraded brakes, sporty wheels, and a power bump to the supercharged 3800 to 300 HP and 300 lb-ft of torque.

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This concept didn’t go anywhere, but it did prove the tuning potential for the 3800. It also proved that, with a little bit of tweaking, the Regal’s looks could be spiced up considerably.

Once The Fastest Buick Since The GNX

If you happened to be someone who wished the Regal GS was just a bit spicier, the car for you arrived in 2002 thanks to SLP Engineering. As The Car Connection wrote back then, the Buick Regal GSX was similar to SLP’s other project at the time, the Pontiac Grand Prix GTX. This, as the publication notes, is because both cars share the same platform, and thus nearly the same mods from SLP. However, of the two, the Buick was more of a sleeper because it didn’t have loud badging or graphics like the Pontiac.

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SLP, which was founded by drag racer, hot rodder, and go-fast parts slinger Ed Hamburger, has been around since 1987. The firm didn’t manufacture cars, but for a long time had a deep relationship with America’s OEMs and often offered warrantied firepower at times when the automakers themselves did not. Back then, SLP was best known for its work on the Camaro and Firebird.

This time, however, SLP decided to bring back a famed Buick nameplate from the dead.

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Back in 1970, Buick sold a muscle car in the form of the Skylark GSX, which housed a meaty 455 cubic-inch V8 under its hood that, when equipped with the optional Stage 1 package, pumped out 360 HP and 510 lb-ft of torque. The Audrain Automobile Museum has more details:

The Buick GSX Stage 1 was built to show that the performance features found in their popular Wildcat and Riviera GS models could also build and sell a muscular mid-size car in a very competitive market. The Skylark GS Line of mid-sized Buick coupes were upgraded with large displacement powerplants to create the GSX model cars and then taken one step further with the release of the limited production Stage 1 option package. Besides the engine upgrade to the massive 455 V8, a hood mounted tach, front and rear spoiler, race style gauge package, and wide black race stripes put the Stage 1 squarely in competition with other GM muscle cars like the Chevelle, GTO, and 442.

For 1971, Buick added the brand new 455 cu in engine into its restyled GS. The Stage 1 package had an even hotter cam, bigger valves in special high-compression heads, a distributor with a different timing curve and a modified Rochester carburetor. 455 big blocks retained the choice of a 4-speed manual shifter or 3-speed automatic on the floor.

It was widely suggested that the 360 horsepower and 510 lb. ft of torque claimed by the builder was underrated by a lot to address rising insurance cost and fuel economy concerns. Most people, including NHRA determined that the engine achieved over 400 horsepower. Running a 13.38 E.T. and reaching 105.5 mph in the quarter-mile, this prompted Motor Trend Magazine to name the 1970 GSX “The Quickest American Production Muscle Car”.

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The use of the GSX name was fitting because, in turning up the taps on the Buick Regal GS, the folks at SLP made the fastest stock Buick money was able to buy in 2003. Period reports went even further, saying that the GSX was the fastest Buick since the 1987 GNX.

A lot of SLP’s changes were pretty mild. The GSX had 17″ by 7″ sport wheels, a wing, a slightly revised rear end, slight revisions in the front end, and a smattering of GSX badges on all corners of the vehicle. These were mild changes, but at least to my eyes, the GSX looked pretty close to the GNX Concept that Buick had teased a couple of years before.

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Inside, more mild changes continued, including the addition of real burled wood finish trim as well as GSX logos for the headrests.

The real magic was what was underneath, and SLP sold the performance part of the GSX package in three Stages. The Stage 1 kit added a cat-back exhaust and a cold air intake, which added 15 HP to Regal GS and LS models. Stage 2 added everything from Stage 1, plus a Hypertech Power Programmer “with SLP Custom Calibration,” and a 180-degree thermostat. These changes netted the GSX an extra 20 horsepower.

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Finally, there was the flagship Stage 3, which added all of the bits from the previous two packages, plus either “1.8 Higher Ratio Rocker Arms and Pushrods” for the Regal LS-based LSX, or “3.5 Inch Smaller Diameter Pulley speeds up the supercharger for more boost, more power, and more fun” for the GSX. The Stage 3 kit added 25 HP to Regal LS models and 30 HP to GS models for a max output of 270 HP and around 312 lb-ft of torque. One report from Autos Cheat Sheet claimed that these power figures were “conservatively rated,” but I have not seen any dyno data confirming otherwise.

From there, if you wanted your GSX to be even faster, SLP had options including BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW tires, Hawk brake pads, stiffer stabilizer bars, and a 1-inch suspension drop. If you checked every box, you ended up with a Regal GSX that was about as close to the GNX Concept as you could buy from a Buick dealership with a GM-honored warranty and a 50-state emissions certification.

A Real Tire-Shredder

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SLP Engineering

While I could not find a period review, here is a story from the Autos Cheat Sheet:

At the 2015 Buick GS Nationals in Bowling Green, Ky., Turbo Regals and Skylark Gran Sports were lined up at Beech Bend Raceway as far as the eye could see. The sight wasn’t anything new at the 35th annual Buick event, as the two heavyweights have long been regarded as the brand’s greatest performance cars. The 1970 455 Stage 1 powered Skylark GSX is widely regarded as the king of the muscle car era, while the 1987 Regal GNX reigned supreme in the 1980s. But hidden among the sea of Grand Nationals in the staging lanes was Dirk Shultz, in one of Buick’s best-kept secrets.

As the unusual black silhouette made its way to the front, it was unidentifiable to all but the die-hard Buick enthusiasts. With a trip around the water box, the Buick quickly did its burnout and pulled up to the Christmas tree. The exhaust note was far too quiet for a V8, and the smoke rolling off the front tires raised a few eyebrows from those sitting in the grandstands. From behind the wheel, Shultz took the perplexed looks in stride. In his first ever trip to the GS Nationals, he decided to leave behind his 1971 Skylark GS 455 and 1987 Grand National in order to bring something unique that nobody else would have. After continually fielding questions about his mysterious car throughout the weekend, it was safe to say his mission was accomplished.

As the light flashed green, Shultz eased into the throttle to prevent lighting up the front tires through the first 60 feet. As any experienced drag racer will tell you, “if you’re spinning, you ain’t winning.” The four-door Buick quickly disappeared down the track with the faint whine of a supercharger and crossed the line in 14.34 seconds at 95 miles per hour. A blown front-wheel drive Buick? Was this some sort of joke? Not quite. This was a 2003 Buick Regal GSX — a four door sport sedan enhanced by Street Legal Performance. In 2003, SLP took a limited number of supercharged Regal GS sedans from Buick showrooms and performed an extreme makeover. The suspension was modified with lowering springs, larger diameter sway bars, and tubular rear trailing arms.

The only review I could find is a modern take:

SLP’s marketing was ambitious with the GSX. One part of the marketing copy says:

“Out on the road, GSX runs step-for-step with the much more expensive boys from Germany and the upstarts from Japan. At the end of the day, the only difference is the competition will be left scratching their head as you pull away in your GSX.”

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SLP Engineering

The marketing also said that the “GSX is true to its Buick heritage,” and gave imagery of a rocket launch alongside photos of the GSX’s performance parts. It would be easy to dismiss SLP and the Regal GSX, but if you’ve driven one of these W-bodies before, then you know they are surprisingly capable out of the box and can be turned into something much more without a ton of work. These cars are perhaps not on the level of a German sport sedan, but better than their sedate looks would have you believe.

Sadly, I could not find any pricing details for the model. SLP sold the GSX from 2003 to 2005, and while production data hasn’t been released, it’s believed that legitimate GSX models are rare. With that being said, it was also possible to make your own GSX through the SLP catalog. SLP sold all of the parts separately, so any 1997 to 2005 Regal could be made into a Regal GSX clone.

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The only way to know if you’re looking at an official GSX is by looking for the SLP sticker in the door jamb. Of course, a 2000 Buick Regal GSX SLP technically doesn’t exist, so checking model years is another way to tell.

Sadly, I found exactly zero GSX SLPs for sale. I haven’t even found archived listings for sold examples from within the past decade. The best I could find is a for-sale listing from 2009, when the seller didn’t get any bites until they dropped the price to $4,500. Oof. None of these cars has graced the pages of Bring a Trailer, Cars & Bids, or Mecum.

If you’re one of the people who love this era of GM, this car could be your next white whale. It came from a time when Buick sold cars that looked like they were for your grandparents, but hid excellent reliability and tuning potential within. Sure, these Buicks perhaps didn’t quite live up to the promise of besting the Europeans, but they’re still darn good cars. If you’re lucky enough, you might be able to find the fastest Buick of the 2000s and maybe surprise someone at the next car show.

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Mister Win
Mister Win
7 months ago

I know a guy who has a supercharged Regal 3800,it makes around 475hp and eats a lot of Mustangs, Chargers and transmissions

BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago
Reply to  Mister Win

I know a few fast ones too. Even some manual swap ones.

Putting a L67 in a Fiero is also very popular.

Mister Win
Mister Win
7 months ago
Reply to  BlownGP

I almost did that-I had the Monte SS with blown suspension, I had a line on a good running notchback Fiero, but it needed all the bodywork it could possibly need and I couldn’t afford it :/

BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago
Reply to  Mister Win

Yeah, it’s hard to find parts for those cars now.

My Goat Ate My Homework
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My Goat Ate My Homework
7 months ago

Not saying the GS was bad, but it wasn’t great. Sure, guys love to point out it was supercharged but driving it was not an exciting experience. There was a ton of body roll and the thing felt heavy, It barely wanted to move. Add in some torque steer and the numbest steering I can remember (maybe second to a Buick Electra station wagon I drove for awhile).

The supercharged v6 was reliable and had some decent power. But I spent the entire time driving it wishing it was a Grand Prix GXP with the better suspension tuning.

It was fun for a Regal (I would know, I drove 3 different ones) but I still had more fun driving a chevy cavalier (z something) at the time because it didn’t feel like driving one of those overstuffed couches riding on bars of soap.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 months ago

That was pretty much my opinion on most of GMs 90s/00s stuff.

However…..

Road trips are superior in these types of cars. It’s just better, lol.

My Goat Ate My Homework
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My Goat Ate My Homework
7 months ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

I would road trip in one for sure (and did). Buick Park Avenue all day long if I had a choice.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 months ago

I guess my point is they are great cars for some things. Bad for others. Kind of like everything lol.

James
James
7 months ago

Only making 240hp 280 lb-ft of torque from a supercharged a 3.8l and then using an outside tuning company just to get it up 270hp 312 lb-ft says a lot about of the state of the American auto industry at the time.

DietersMagnificentStache
DietersMagnificentStache
7 months ago
Reply to  James

The 3800 was capable of making plenty more power than that. But the transmissions were not up to the task.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 months ago
Reply to  James

There’s something to be said about tuning it to be very understressed, efficient, and torquey powerplant. Not peak output, but other metrics. 30mpg is possible with these things.

Last edited 7 months ago by ADDvanced
Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
7 months ago

And 10 years ago, you could get a NA V6 Camry or Accord that could hold its own or eclipse it. I bought one of those and for the life of me, I don’t know what Buick, the rest of GM or Ford or CJD were trying to do to stay competitive, back then.

I drove a rental V6 Charger a few months ago and it was just horrible. I didn’t do any 0-60 runs in it, but in every other way, compared to my ’17 Honda and the rental Camry’s I’ve driven since, it came up woefully short. Hint: suspension tuning matters.

I have hopes for Buick. Perhaps they will bring back to Detroit stuff they learned catering to the Chinese.

Hawkman
Hawkman
7 months ago

The v6 Charger is a middle 6 second car to 60 mph. I’m not sure what rentals you have driven, but unless it’s a 6 cyl camry or accord you butt-o-meter is just biased

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
7 months ago
Reply to  Hawkman

I specified V6 models in the first sentence of my comment. The car mags consistently listed the Camry and Accord V6 0-60 times as sub-6 seconds. So, I’d say my butt-o-meter is fairly well calibrated.

Hawkman
Hawkman
7 months ago
Reply to  Hawkman

Woefully short? Not too dramatic are we lol.

Scott
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Scott
7 months ago

I think that these FWD version(s) of the Regal have aged very nicely: while not perfect, the proportions are still pretty good, and the smooth, not over-adorned body remains handsome. And of course, the GM 3800 motor has an enviable rep for reliability/longevity, which I admire/envy. I don’t even mind the period GM dash/instruments and cushy seats that provide no lateral support: I’m not 22 anymore, so I don’t need aggressive side bolsters in a daily driver.

I’d like to own whichever findable/buyable late Regal from this era I could, provided I could locate a nice, mostly unmodded one and there weren’t any/too many unobtanium parts on it (dash bits, etc…).

Eslader
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Eslader
7 months ago

My roommate in college drooled over the 90s version of the Regal. He had a trust fund that required him to complete freshman year before it paid out, and his plan was to drop out as soon as he got the money and buy one.

Brilliant plan, but he also smoked about a field worth of pot every day and was never hungover only because he was never not drunk, so he flunked out in first semester. Sometimes I wonder if he ever managed to get his Regal. Bet he’d have really loved this one.

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IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
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IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
7 months ago
Reply to  Eslader

Good call to make him get through two semesters before he could cash in, since he couldn’t even manage one.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
7 months ago

This is the obscure content I come here for. Great article Mercedes!

FrontWillDrive
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FrontWillDrive
7 months ago

I’ve always wanted one of these, but also haven’t ever found one for sale. I’d go for the right GS too, and just modify it similarly, which coincidentally is about the same level of modification I did to my other L67 cars.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
7 months ago

Putting more horsepower and stiffer suspension into a pig doesn’t make it a racehorse, just a faster pig that rides poorly.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 months ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

It’s a buick, the one thing that will be awesome is the ride quality. I think you meant handle or respond

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
7 months ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

No, I absolutely did not. All of these tuner cars try to make these things handle, and mostly they just spoil the ride. And don’t conflate a wallowing marshmallow ride with a good ride, they are not the same thing at all.

Space
Space
7 months ago

Even the supercharged 3.8’s had enough oomph for lots of fun this thing would have been loads of fun!

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
7 months ago

I always forget about this special GSX from SLP. I’ve always liked the GS. My grandpa had a GS he later told me was one of his favorite cars, though it was unfortunately totaled. (My grandma also had a last gen Celica at the same time, I didn’t realize they were lo-key car people).

BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago

I had a 98 Grand Prix GTP for 20 years. Very highly modified and also had a 2001 Regal GS for daily for 5 of those years. I love the W-bodys and 3800 is a tank. It’s just the transmission is garbage, can barley handle stock power. If they would have put a good trans in it, it would have rivaled the Toyotas of the same period has just as reliable.

I got a S550 Mustang now that I love to death, but I miss my Grand Prix a lot especially knowing that it’s rotting away in Michigan with a blown motor.

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FiveOhNo
FiveOhNo
7 months ago

One of these showed up at an Autocross once. It didn’t so much corner as list to starboard.

Last edited 7 months ago by FiveOhNo
Hawkman
Hawkman
7 months ago

Some of the SLP cars like the Firehawk, Firebird GT, Camaro SS, Ws6 some years when SLP made them etc…we’re definitely considered factory cars. They had GM RPO codes on their RPO sticker

Anoos
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Anoos
7 months ago

SLP was almost exclusively a Pontiac tuner at the time.

If I rememeber correctly, they also had to switch from “Street Legal Performance’ to “SLP” at some point because some of their equipment may not have been totally legal in CA-emissions states.

In any case, I’m glad this car exists. I am also not really interested because we have 30 years of faster sedans with better styling and airbags.

I applaud them for doing what they could at the time, but it really was a terrible time when tuners had to focus on FWD GMs.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
7 months ago

When I lived in Chicago in the 2000s, my barber had one of these. He was the kinda guy with gold chains, short sleeve shirts with prints of animals howling, etc. – he constantly praised it for being exactly that, a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

The reason I recall it is one day when I was in, he had it in the alley next door, and after my haircut, we stepped out so he could show me. I’ve never forget how strange it felt to be outside the barber shop with one’s barber. And yeah, I sat in it while he revved the engine. “Just listen to her!”

Anoos
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Anoos
7 months ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

I ran into the woman who cuts my hair tonight (outside of the shop).

It was weird.

Chris
Chris
7 months ago
Reply to  Anoos

My wife and I have been on vacation with our stylist and her husband.

Anoos
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Anoos
7 months ago
Reply to  Chris

Pretty big age gap between myself (I won’t out my wife, but we left high school, in the same year) and my hairdresser. She’s planning her wedding and I assume she’s in her late 20s.

Vacation together would be weird.

EXL500
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EXL500
7 months ago
Reply to  Chris

We regularly go to dinner with our guy, and he has clients that he’s stayed with in Iceland, Italy, Germany, and Portugal. The freaky part is our little town in Tampa Bay has such diverse snow birds.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
7 months ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

Oh my God, my barber from outside Philadelphia was commuting back and forth to Chicago? How much hair was that guy cutting?

Seriously, sounds very familiar. In his 60s as of the late ’90s, layers of gold chains, lots of rings, silk shirt, big pompadour, except my guy drove a C5 Corvette and had a C1 and C2 in the garage at home that he only ever showed pictures of, because I don’t think they ever actually left the garage under his ownership

Alpinab7
Alpinab7
7 months ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

I’m bald. I shave my head with clippers I bought at Walmart 30 years ago for $14.97. Amort that cost, suckahs!

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
7 months ago

Huh. I had no idea these were special. About 15 years ago I had a coworker with one and thought it looked nifty…for a Buick Regal. His didn’t have the “Stage 3” badging, but it otherwise looked identical to the pictures above. I guess knowing it was made by SLP explains why he only drove it in the summer months and drove an older, rusty Olds 88 in the Midwest winters.

Jdoubledub
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Jdoubledub
7 months ago

I don’t know why but I always pronounce this model as RE-GALL instead of RE-GULL.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
7 months ago

sounds cool until the Lacrosse Super came out with the LS4.

You might be able to swap in an LS4 in the Century/Regal…

The best version of the Century was the Chinese one, which had a 2.4L I4 and a 5-speed manual–and amber turn signals too 😛

That Chinese 2.4 could probably be swapped to a 2.0T 😉

BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

Yeah, but it’s way cheaper to turbo the 3800. But like both of them. Better get a built trans first.

Footballplaya3k
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Footballplaya3k
7 months ago

Cool car, but no way it was making 30HP more than factory. Catback and intake made almost no power on these things, and tunes didn’t do much on a stock car besides improve shifting. Adding the smaller pulley likely didn’t make any power but I’m sure sounded cool. These engines were incredibly heat constrained and susceptible to knock which killed timing quickly; they needed cooling mods to truly improve. Adding headers and an intercooler combined with a smaller SC pulley is what really opened them up, but then the weak transmission was always lurking. Yes, I was way too deep into this platform back in the day. RIP 98 GTP.

Nathan
Nathan
7 months ago

“These engines were incredibly heat constrained and susceptible to knock which killed timing quickly”

If you were really going to go through all this work now, there would be no reason not to do an E85 tune which would have a high enough octane rating.

Anoos
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Anoos
7 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

That would have been great if you lived on a corn farm in Iowa with its own distillery. For real people, E85 may as well have been unicorn piss.

Nathan
Nathan
7 months ago
Reply to  Anoos

I am sorry that you think that those who live near the 6000 stations selling E85 today are not real people

Anoos
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Anoos
7 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

6000 sounds like a lot, but it’s just 3% of filling stations in the US.

Nathan
Nathan
7 months ago
Reply to  Anoos

The one by the Amtrack station is selling for $1.99 per gallon today

BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

These cars don’t come a with intercooler stock. A ZZP water to air intercooler makes a huge difference in cooling intake temps. I dropped several pulley sizes when I added one.

Last edited 7 months ago by BlownGP
BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago

The U-bend in the exhaust was a big restriction. Getting that removed and headers really helped. Put a 3.4 pulley, 180 thermo, cheap pcv intake and good tune with somebody who knows how to tune these cars makes a difference.

Footballplaya3k
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Footballplaya3k
7 months ago
Reply to  BlownGP

Completely agree; exactly what I did with mine, plus an intercooler.

The World of Vee
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The World of Vee
7 months ago

A dude brought one of these to a cars and coffee near me once, I had never heard of the model but it was surprisingly handsome and I was taken to it. I don’t think it’d ever be something I’d actually want to own, but it’s neat to look at even if only on the screen.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
7 months ago

I remember test driving one of the Grand Prix’s with the S/C 3800 in 2004 and coming away very underwhelmed by it. Maybe the car was just too comfy, but it didn’t feel like it performed as well as I expected. Ended up buying an 03 Mustang GT instead.

BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago

Funny, a S/C grand prix could have walked that Mustang with just a $70 pulley swap.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
7 months ago
Reply to  BlownGP

I’m sure. It just didn’t feel fast. Too comfortable maybe?

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
7 months ago

I remember these supercharged 3800 w bodies with boost mods cracking off mid to high 13s at Great Lakes Dragaway back in the early 00s.
I had my Crane cammed, modded, gutted, obnoxious 97 Plymouth Neon out there and these were beating me. Hell I even ran a 13.9 and they pulled away!

Anoos
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Anoos
7 months ago
Reply to  CTSVmkeLS6

It’s crazy to look at the 1/4 mile times of stock cars today.

I had friends go into credit card debt they’re probably still dealing with to get their Fox bodies to run high 12’s.

BlownGP
BlownGP
7 months ago
Reply to  CTSVmkeLS6

I think the fastest one to date is ZZPs that went 8s. But lows 13s was pretty attainable with some bolt ons. Once the turbo kits starting coming out, it was easy money as long as the trans held together.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 months ago
Reply to  CTSVmkeLS6

I also remember being at GLD and seeing tuned up GTPs beating modified neons. 01? 02?

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
7 months ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Yeah that’s exactly when I was there, you probably saw me losing to those guys – it was fun times however!

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 months ago
Reply to  CTSVmkeLS6

Were you on neons.org?

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
7 months ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Yes- blast from the past! I spent a lot of time on that site.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 months ago
Reply to  CTSVmkeLS6

Oh man. We probably know each other lol

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
7 months ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Haha!

Von Baldy
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Von Baldy
7 months ago

Having driven a l67 regal that we used for demo, them bad boys SCOOT for a grandma car, so id bet a gsx version was a hoot.

Whats fun is if you redline these engines, the make a nasty “bark” thatl grab plenty of attention.

Kinda wished that car wasnt a rust bomb from illinois, or idve looked into making it a daily

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
7 months ago

I was reminded of this model when I was watching an episode of “Wednesday” on Netflix.

Even tho it wasn’t a GSX and probably wasn’t supercharged – She drives the Regal/Century as if it were.

Last edited 7 months ago by Urban Runabout
Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
7 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

it was a Century, with probably a 3.1 under the hood. Column shifter, bench seat and wheel covers are the most telling differences.

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