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Watch A Ford F-450 King Ranch Dually Pickup Drift Surprisingly Well On A Rally Course

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Rally cars are lightweight, lithe little things for springing across bumpy dirt tracks at gut-churning speeds. The Ford F-450 is pretty much the opposite of that in all regards. It’s a gigantic, heavy truck designed for hauling big loads, usually on sealed roads. But that didn’t deter Team O’Neil from asking the question—will it rally?

That someone in the headline is none other than Wyatt Knox, one of the best drivers out there who is, it seems, back at Team O’Neil to make more of these ridiculous videos. He was the one lucky enough to get behind the wheel for what is a truly hilarious test. The gang has put plenty of non-rally vehicles through their paces on an off-road stage before,  tackling everything from a Porsche Cayman to the beloved Crown Victoria. The F-450, though, sets a new bar. At 8,500 pounds, it’s easily the heaviest vehicle they’ve ever tried to wheel in anger in the mountains. Even better, it’s a diesel King Ranch model with a dually rear end. It doesn’t get less rally-spec than that!

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The video starts on the skidpad, with Wyatt noting that traction control, stability control, and ABS were all turned off. Our host praises the brake bias, noting a good balance from front to rear—which is key for car control on loose surfaces. He notes the 10-speed transmission hunts a little, but that it drifts surprisingly well in two-wheel-drive on gravel.

He’s able to hold a slide with great drift angle without too much trouble or excessive body roll. “It just feels planted,” says Wyatt, crediting the wide dually rear end and smooth tires for helping matters. “It’s a giant, giant rig, but it goes really good. It’s got more than enough power to drift around all day long on gravel.” The tires are worthy of particular note, too. They’re rugged and stiff thanks to a high-load rating, having been designed for towing on the highway. Compliance for dealing with difficult terrain wasn’t really a factor; likely zero regard was taken during their development for performance when driving through dirt, stones, and mud at rally pace.

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In any case, Wyatt makes skating the F-450 about look easy. A great deal of that is likely down to his skill and experience; he gets a very elegant performance out of the giant truck beyond what we might have thought possible. He likens driving it on the slalom to driving a big BMW, in some respects. “It’s way easier than it should be,” says Wyatt. “All the fundamentals are the same… it’s just bigger.” He does explain, though, that while it works well in rear-wheel-drive, four-wheel-drive was a disaster by comparison. The front-end undergoes crazy wheel hop when turning under throttle, and the truck just doesn’t want to play ball.

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The F-450 doesn’t mind a bit of the ol’ opposite lock.

Out on the rally stage, he gets the truck dancing on gravel with ease. It’s not fast, by any means, but it’s perfectly stable in a slide when Wyatt needs it to be. He’s clearly having a ball and enjoying the spectacle of wheeling such a massive truck through the tight forested course. He’s not going easy by any means, either, ripping great chunks out of the highway-spec tires in the process.

There are some hair-raising moments, though, particularly where the truck’s weight plays a role. “When you really commit to something and throw it in there, there’s not a lot of wiggle room at all,” he explains. “If it doesn’t go well and you need to brake, you’re not gonna stop.” Occasional understeer and the lack of swift decisions from the 10-speed auto aren’t appreciated, either. He also gets in a fight with the seatbelt at one point when it locks up, taking some time to release and frustrating his efforts to steer. Really, though, these are all understandable given the F-450’s day job. It’s a truck that was built to haul, not haul ass.

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The weight and bulk of the F-450 slow everything down, as demonstrated by Wyatt’s elegant but glacial Scandi flick.

Unsurprisingly, the truck recorded the slowest time Team O’Neill have for summer runs on the course. However, it wasn’t as bad as you might have thought. At 2:11.78, it came in only around four seconds slower than a Kia Sedona, and six seconds slower than a 2013 Dodge Charger police cruiser.

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It’s the kind of tread pattern you get on one of those cheap drug store die cast cars.

Would we recommend rallying a Ford F-450 like this? No, of course not. We’d suggest you sort out the front suspension to cut the wheel hop to make the most of the four-wheel-drive system, which is otherwise dead weight. Beyond that, you’re going to want better tires and probably ditch the dually setup for a simple wider rim at the back. Do that, strip out the interior and add a rollcage, and then you’ll be truly ready to hit the stages. Be sure to drop us a tip when you do.

Image credits: Team O’Neil via YouTube screenshot

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Chris Cyr
Chris Cyr
9 months ago

Thanks for the love. We are always on the lookout for more cars to test. All the comments and messages are appreciated. (I’m the CEO of Team O’Neil for those who don’t know)

Canyonero
Canyonero
9 months ago

The front end hop in four wheel drive while turning isn’t just suspension; it’s the fact that it has U-joints on the axle shafts. Swap those out for a nice set of RCV Performance CV axles (they make them for the F250/350, I’m not sure if they fit the F450’s axles) and it’ll be an entirely different situation.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
9 months ago

Totally impressed.
That boy’s looking like Steve Kinser riding the cushion at Eldora.
Well done.

755_SoCalRally
755_SoCalRally
9 months ago

Love these rally stories…please keep them coming! One item I noted in the video is that there is a “Winter” time for a Hilux. Does video of that exist??

PL71 Enthusiast
PL71 Enthusiast
9 months ago
Reply to  755_SoCalRally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TellTY6UVLU&themeRefresh=1

It’s a series so they have a video for everything on the list.

755_SoCalRally
755_SoCalRally
9 months ago

Aha! Thank you. My Google-fu was not powerful enough yesterday.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
9 months ago

We used to have an old two wheel drive Silverado 2500… Not diesel, it had a 350 gas engine in it. That thing would drift quite well. Too bad this was during the recession when gas was $4+/gal so I couldn’t afford the gas and tire budget to do it much.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
9 months ago

Like using a sledgehammer to fix our eyeglasses.

V10omous
V10omous
9 months ago

The 450 has a different steering geometry and a much tighter turning radius than other Super Duty trucks, which honestly makes this the best drifting truck.

Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
9 months ago

Reminds me of the time I did similar with a Ford E-350 Power Stroke van during a Gambler 500. These big diesel brutes are better than you think they would be!

I think Tanner Foust drifted a bus once, so that’s my dream rallycross goal. Complete a HooptieX lap in a transit bus.

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
9 months ago

Go one better. A double decker bus.

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
9 months ago
Reply to  Gilbert Wham

How about a bendy bus

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
9 months ago

Wait…
(cue memories of playing Snap the Whip on frozen ponds decades back)
Yeah, I’d pay to see that!

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
9 months ago

On a periodic project replacing wall-mount AC units at mountaintop cell sites I have drifted a ‘16 F450 SuperDuty stakebody down a mountain. While loaded: when I crossed the scales at the recycler, it tipped the scales at just over 10,400lbs. Note that I do not recommend this practice. I can’t even plead youth as it was just a few years ago.

Rolling out the gate at almost 3, time was tight: I had to get to the recycler, discard trash, then restock Big Bertha for Monday. I had put the first 20k on her by then, and we got along pretty well. Put the trans in manual mode with the TCS off and tow/haul on—plus some classic tunes to help, we went the hell down that mountain. Things were going pretty well until I got a bit exuberant on an outside right-hander that was bumpier than I thought. With a good 100’ dropoff under the left tires, the inner one started dropping off the rudimentary road while I was 30 or more degrees from parallel with it. I was busy the next few seconds cajoling her, sawing the wheel, and giving her the beans until she straightened up bumping back onto the road. It took me several minutes before I stopped shaking enough to undo the combination lock at the bottom of that mountain.

in short, don’t drift big beasts on mountain roads: flatlands are much safer 🙂

R53forfun
R53forfun
9 months ago
Reply to  TOSSABL

Username checks out :).

But also, holy cow!

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
9 months ago
Reply to  TOSSABL

Big Bertha had your back that day!

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
9 months ago

Like watching a particularly graceful hippo on ice skates…

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