As a card-carrying Autopian, or even someone causally looking at this site, you unquestionably like cars. However, the ones that are possibly the apple of your eye might not have, how shall we say, universal appeal.
Your friends and family will almost certainly get why you want to empty the nest egg to purchase a red 1965 Mustang convertible or an NA Miata. But more than likely it won’t be that simple; you have more complex tastes than the average person, and average person might think you’re insane. What cars are on your must-have-someday list that your acquaintances would totally NOT get?
Driving in our neighborhood recently, we were passing a self-serve car wash when the 14-year-old yelled for me to stop immediately. My wife thought this was because of something horrible; in her mind, it turns out that it was. We busted a U-turn and pulled into the car wash lot to see what the kid wanted me to engage ABS for: it was worth it. Inexplicably parked inside one of the bays was a U.S. spec Renault 12, and outside was this with a FOR SALE sign in the window:

“What is that thing?” the better half said as we pulled up in front and stared down at it from up in the SUV. “That’s the ugliest car I’ve ever seen. Why did we stop?” My younger son concurred. The older kid who had alerted me to it noted correctly that it was a second-generation Lamborghini Espada, complete with a V-12 and “room for all of us.”
If this Espada wasn’t covered in rust bubbles, had a great interior, and really did have “low miles” despite the worn pedals, it might be worth close to the $100K the owner was asking. As it sat, he’d be lucky to get a third of that (as you can see on the Cars and Bids auction for it), but I loved it nonetheless. I didn’t even care that it had an “S” missing from one of the Espada logos (so it’s a rare “Epada”) that was self-tapped into the fender (this thing was ROUGH).

Of course, the spouse couldn’t understand why I and my oldest thought it was the coolest thing we’d ever seen, even before the V-12 had fired up (and probably smoked like a chimney). I bet most people would also think it looked like something you should step on, especially if it was in its original factory Kermit green color (which I would want to repaint it in at any cost).

At the same time, a while back we went to some house that was Craigslisting a used kid’s bike for sale. Just out of the Carcoon in the owner’s garage was something similar to this:

My full list of “cars to own” would have a 1975 Buick Regal Indy Pace Car down at like number 6708, right above a 1988 Mitsubishi Precis, a 1984 Chrysler E-Class, and a 1972 VW 411 with the heater channels rusted shut (sorry, Jason). Still, the bicycle seller obviously adored this malaise thing; it’s indeed amusing to look at, but in an ironic sort of way. However, in many people’s opinion and by almost any objective standards, other than great air conditioning, it’s a flat-out awful example of a motor vehicle.

This Buick is underpowered, gaudy, has laughable handling, is badly built, likely stumbles and chokes thanks to awful smog equipment, but so what? The owner seemed to be smitten enough to lavish Bugatti-level care on it. It’s not like I, a person who loves an Italian car that looks like a doorstop and barely runs, can criticize someone who wants to cosplay a pace car driver (it was actually James Garner in 1975). But yeah, I don’t get it with a car like this either. You might notice that in Europe they don’t make replicas of Formula 1 safety cars. There is a reason for that.
How about you? What cars do you go nuts for that your non-car friends, or even fellow enthusiasts, absolutely not get at all?
source: General Motors






“We’re NOT BUYING an Espada! That R12, on the other hand…”
But seriously, if The Bishop’s not Torch’s doppelganger, I am. I have the same admiration for space efficiency and clever solutions born from tight constraints.
Without those, you get cars like that Buick.
I kinda can’t believe Bishop teased us with a mention of an actual Renault 12, and all he shows us is a teensy glimpse of its little beige arse peeking saucily out of a wash bay in the deep background. I hasten to assure everyone that I don’t actually LIKE the R12, but it is the car I learned to drive in, and my family spent all our vacations driving that miserable French POS all over the southwestern states, often towing a Scamp-size fiberglass trailer, which was a rather bold move for our 59 hp hero. The black vinyl upholstery sometimes gave us 2nd degree burns on sunny August days. It had the sloppiest floor shifter I’ve ever wiggled into the general nor’easterly direction of 3rd gear, and my dad learned to never offer jump starts with it because the first time he did it blew out the alternator and a new one was $400 (in 1980!) and had to be shipped from France. He finally sold the car around 1987 or so. I have seen precisely one other in the wild in all the years since.
All saabs
You’re not wrong. Unless both of us are.
Late 80s Escort GT. I want one so bad and no one around me understands it.
Someone, somewhere needs to build a one of none Escort GT wagon.
I don’t have any friends so…
See screen name. I’ve been into the midsize Fox-platform Ford LTDs since the ’90s.
The 2nd car I ever bought while I was in high school was an ’85 LTD, then I learned there was a rare high performance variant of it, then I found one scouring the paper Autotrader magazine and only identifying it by the presence of black trim shown in a tiny black and white photo. I’ve owned six since then.
For a long time these were just unloved frumpy used cars and you had to be a weirdo like me to appreciate them. Nowadays that has changed, as the rising tide of Fox Body Mustang prices and interest has lifted all ships, and now the “odd Foxes” are getting a lot of attention and love.
In general if I had Jay Leno money I’d have a warehouse full of “performance” variants of otherwise boring ’70s-’90s cars, even though most were just lipstick on a pig.
Early 70’s Caddy Sedan DeVilles. 472 with a two barrel carb, power front bench seat please!
Caterham 7. Even I know it’s an impractical car, but man I would love to have one, to drive, probably to my death.
I’m basically right with you on the car you named – generally speaking, COLONNADE ALL THE THINGS.
I think mine would have to be a variant from two years earlier, which I have named here before, because I would see a guy on the streets when I lived in Portland who had one that gave me feelings in places: 1973 Buick Century Gran Sport. 455, 4-speed, and loaded. A true gentleman’s muscle car. It was basically exactly this car:
https://hagerty-media-prod.imgix.net/2020/08/Buick-GS-Stage-1-3.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&fit=crop&h=683&ixlib=php-3.3.0&w=1024
GM perfected the “big on the outside, cramped on the inside” philosophy with the Colonnade cars.
IMO the only Colonnade coupes that look good are the early and/or base models with the thin C pillar and big triangular quarter windows.
Toyota Verossa because it’s ugly, Lincoln Continental Mark V because it’s big, anything with a 1G-GE because they sound like an F1 car while making 150hp, and a Skyline Japan (the one after the Kenmeri and before the R30, that nobody outside of Japan seems to care about), because I think they’re neat.
Ford EXP. Esp the froggy first gen.
I know they’re objectively bad cars, but there’s something so compelling about Ford greenlighting a small fwd everyday sport coupe…that’s actually a freakin’ two seater.
The thought process had to be the product of some sort of auto enthusiasm warped into something to (improbably) get by the accountants.
Not a first gen, but the first one I’ve seen for sale in YONKS
https://www.craigslist.org/view/d/saint-louis-1987-ford-exp/h1AmW4Jbe7FqXPuCKM5Z1v
Those 70’s GM A-bodies were comfortable drivers. On that Buick, a LS swap would take care of the power issue. Some suspension work would help with the handling, nothing that can’t be fixed.
Thank God for QA Suspension et.al. Honorable mention to Vintage Air. Between those two aftermarket companies, you can solve every “problem” a car like that would have today beyond the actual drivetrain.
Minivans. I used to hate them myself. Then we got one.
The mark of a true car enthusiast is respect for the minivan.
The Ford LTD Crown Victoria from 1980-1991. Yeah, they’re big, square cars that lack sex appeal, engaging driving dynamics, or efficiency, but I sat in a nice survivor at a Mecum auction and I want one. I also want a 77-90 Chevy Caprice or 77-85 Olds Delta 88, and I fully imagine my friends wouldn’t understand why I’d want any of the three
I have a deep seated need to own a Subaru Turbo XT.
There. I said it.
I am comfortable saying this here, among my people.
I know someone that had one as a company car!
That was a BOLD choice!
I had an XT-6 AWD with a 5 speed that was so much fun to drive until the unobtainable air suspension fittings started failing and dropping the car hard on the bumpstops. It had the coolest completely flush door handles, too.
I mean one of my friends doesn’t get my thing with small cars – though, to be fair, he’s big on anything from the mid-’20s to the late ’60s. Especially ’30s Art Deco. He’s younger than I am.
Most AMC cars, but especially a Gremlin X or Pacer. I don’t know why.
1968 Javelin, SST perhaps. AMX is fine, but I like the more plebian 4 seaters.
There was a guy in my hometown who had a Red AMX that he washed on his front lawn almost every day. It was beautiful.
I’ve always thought the Gremlin looked like fun, I love hot hatches, and how far off could this be?
A friend of mine’s dad bought one, even after taking us both along on the test drives of it and a Super Beetle. In our fifth and sixth-grade opinions, the Super Beetle was the clearly superior choice. To his dad’s credit, he did mount a Mack bulldog on the hood.
I would take a 360 hornet. basically a gremlin Scirroco with a much bigger motor.
Gimme a 1971-74 Javelin any ol’ time. Sexiest front fender flares this side of a C3 Corvette.
First-gen Honda Insight with the 5-speed. And since it only has two seats, all my friends that disagree with me that hypermiling a lime green suppository is peak motoring can walk.
so long as the battery still works i suppose.
I actually saw one of those for sale just the other day, hang on a sec
Yeah, it’s still listed, but there’s a list of stuff to fix on it
https://www.craigslist.org/view/d/jefferson-city-2000-honda-insight/fE5kLhCdSkT8kBEy9hD16W
Found one!:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1408844003905500/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks
Make that two:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2082741755671631/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A901b98a5-d585-42cb-beb8-e97bcaa4b1b1
They’re suddenly flooding the used car market (see below). What do they know that we don’t?
late 90’s Toyota Crown. I adore them for some reason and would love one to waft around in for 6 months, AC swing vents gently oscillating away.
I have two cars I would like to find when I have extra money or a larger garage. both are kind of forgotten and only somewhat loved, but I like them. One is an 89 Conquest TSI, Chrysler variants got leather interior I think, so probably one of them over the Plymouth, and TSI because I think they all had the wide body kits. I would in theory be interested most in the JDM Sirius versions as they were uber rare, but I do want to drive it, and it would be near impossible to fix a 1st gen VVT system made in small numbers I imagine.
Second is a 1965 Buick Riviera. Any is fine, but the GS with a 425 Buick is the one I want most.
Honorable Mention is a 1981 Cordoba LS. Mostly because My grandparents had one. it was red with the odd convertible style roof. not vinyl, but a kind of cap over the regular roof. https://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Chrysler-Cordoba-LS-1981.jpg
It had a wheezy 318 lean burn, and red cloth interior, so not Corinthian Leather, but I still like it to this day. I would want to swap in a later truck 360 or even an early 5.7 Hemi most likely just to make it a bit more modern without to much change.
I had that car in that color. Loved it. Had a button on the floor next to the dimmer switch that changed the radio station.
My mom’s Chrysler Newport had that. It was a search button that took it to the next strong station.
I would think electrifying would be the most in-character swap for a car like that.
not against that, but it would certainly be a lot more change than I am suggesting
It sure is. But it’d also be an amazing ride.
E-Wagon
Second generation Subaru Forest
Saab 9-3 SportCombi
*nod of approval*
Honda Clarity. Yeah it’s ugly, but it comes in green, is a cool PHEV and is made out of aluminum so it won’t rust.
Also the Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky but people have been coming around on those the last few years.
I dig the Sky Redline quite a bit, and they have stayed relatively cheap, but I agree with you, they are getting more notice recently.
2-door, 5-speed Geo Metros.
I drive passengers crazy by getting irrationally excited if we come across a convertible version. The incongruity of it just makes me so happy – you’re overridingly cheap but you also enjoy an enthusiast (open) form of motoring.
Scooters are even better for that.
I don’t understand the Porsche 911 love (esp. the old ones)
Sure, they’re nice and drive well, but I think they’re terribly ugly, very rear-heavy (and on older ones, the fuel load shifts the weight), and I can’t understand how expensive they are/can become (looking at you, Singer).
I do have a softspot for the Cayman, and Panamera though.
I always thought the idea of driving well, then noting tail heavy driving characteristics seemed like it cancels the driving well part out.
Saab Sonett
1987 Fiero GT
Why the ’87 and not the ’88?