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What It Was Like Living With An Electric Adventure Bike In A City Lacking EV Charging Infrastructure

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A few weeks ago, an electric motorcycle temporarily joined my large fleet of gassers and diesels. The 2023 Zero DSR/X is hailed as “the world’s first true electric ADV” and I’ve been putting that to the test by making the machine my daily driver. Despite not having a single way to charge this electric vehicle at home, it’s been a total blast and I’m always looking forward to the next ride.

Some folks might be a bit confused by that last sentence there. Yep, I’m testing an EV without a way to plug in here at home. Yes, I do have two garages with power, but both of them are about 15 minutes from home. All of the vehicles parked at my apartment do not have access to power. According to the U.S. Department of Energy, 80 percent of EV owners charge at home and about 68 percent of EV owners have Level 2 chargers at home. What about the rest of us? Go to just about any city in America, big or small, and you’ll see rows of cars street-parked in front of residences or in vast parking lots next to apartment blocks. You won’t find a charger in sight.

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Couple that with work-from-home jobs or workplaces without chargers and you have a lot of people who would depend entirely on public charging to get around. This isn’t an edge case, either, as many Americans live in this exact situation. I’ve been wanting to buy an old and weird EV like a Th!nk City for years, but always stop myself because I can’t charge it at home. So, what is EV ownership like when you don’t have a garage and you can’t just suck down electrons while at work? For the past few weeks, I’ve been finding out with a Zero DSR/X by my side and honestly, it’s been better than I expected.

The Motorcycle

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My daily driver for the past few weeks is this, the 2023 Zero DSR/X. Launched just last year, the DSR/X isn’t just Zero’s biggest electric motorcycle yet, but one of its most important. This motorcycle has all of Zero’s latest technology bolted to the frame and it’s planting its stakes in the ground as “the world’s first true electric ADV,” a rather ambitious claim that the machine has to live up to.

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Zero has long sold off-road capable motorcycles from the FX to the DSR. These motorcycles were best described as dual-sports, or motorcycles that are good for road and off-road use. What Zero hadn’t built yet was an adventure motorcycle or a motorcycle generally designed for long-distance travel off of the beaten path.

The closest Zero previously came to an electric adventure bike was the Zero DSR Black Forest Edition (below). This was a DSR with bark busters, bash bars, a windshield, and hard cases.

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Now, Zero wants to sell you what it says is the real deal. The Zero DSR/X is built from the ground up but takes inspiration from its siblings. The DSR/X was supposed to be based on the SR/F and SR/S sportbike, but Zero found out that sportbike bones aren’t really strong enough for off-road duty. Zero’s new machine needed a new, beefier platform. Thus, it rides on a new trellis frame and a new swingarm that is thicker and has more gussets. The DSR/X’s frame and swingarm look like they come from the sportbikes, but they’re longer and stronger.

Connected to that frame is a Showa Separate Function 47mm Cartridge Forks and a Showa 46mm shock out back. The forks have adjustable spring preload, compression, and rebound damping while the rear has the same tool-less adjustments. You get 7.48 inches out of both units.

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Powering this 544-pound beast is a Z-Force 75-10X motor delivering 100 HP and 166 lb-ft of torque and it’s fed by a ZF17.3 kWh battery (15.2 kWh nominal), the largest battery ever fitted to a Zero. Zero says that the battery will charge from a zero percent charge to 95 percent in two hours, or to 110 percent in 2.7 hours. That’s when it’s able to charge at 6.6 kW. Optional is the 6 kW Rapid Charger, which gives you 12.6 kW of charging power, capable of getting you from dead to 95 percent in about an hour.

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Now, some of you are probably scratching your head at the 110 percent thing.

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You’re not actually over-charging the battery. As Zero explains, this is called Extended Range Charging and it’s supposed to help prolong the life of the battery by locking out the top of the battery for the occasions when you need to go the extra mile. To put this in other words, when you charge this Zero to 100 percent, it’s really sitting at something like 90 percent. If you want to charge to “110 percent” and use the whole battery, you have to go into a menu and select the option.

All of this is wrapped up in a motorcycle that normally costs $24,495, though, until August 15, Zero is discounting the bike to $19,999. I will save the rest for my full review. This is more about what living with this motorcycle is like.

Enough Range For Some Adventuring

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The Zero DSR/X has a tough mission. As I said before, Zero says the motorcycle is “the world’s first true electric ADV.” To me, an adventure bike has to be able to go long distances in comfort and it can’t be afraid to get dirty, because an adventure bike should also be able to cover a lot of ground where there isn’t pavement. My friends can take their BMW GS and their Triumph Tiger motorcycles to far-off places where populations hover in double digits and where if you ask about a charger, you’ll be pointed toward a Dodge dealership a few towns over.

To be a true electric ADV, the Zero DSR/X not only has to be a comfortable ride on the road while offering decent off-road chops but also provide enough range to get you to the next charger, wherever that may be.

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Every weekend, I try to go on long motorcycle rides. I usually cover 200 to 300 miles in a day and I try to find new roads or at the very least, discover new places close to home. Zero says the DSR/X will cover up to 180 miles in a city environment, 107 miles at 55 mph, and 85 miles at 70 mph. Give the motorcycle a stop-and-go mix of traffic and 70 mph speeds and it should cover 115 miles. Zero says that most people should be able to get about 200 miles of low-speed off-road riding out of it. Thus, if you plan your routes right, it sounds like this can be used for real adventure riding.

It’s So Fun You Stop Paying Attention To Battery Percentage

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For the most part, I’ve been treating the DSR/X like I’d ride any of my gas motorcycles. That means the Zero has been to Lake Michigan a few times, gone to my favorite “uncharted” off-road course, and yes, I’ve cranked that throttle and held on as it rocketed me from a dead stop. Yes, it’s very fast; the DSR/X stomps out 60 mph in about 3 seconds.

Riding the Zero is a completely different experience than riding any gas-powered motorcycle. When I hop onto my Triumph Rocket III, the engine is a vital part of the riding experience. It’s fun to sit at a light, crank the throttle a little bit, and watch the whole bike torque to the right. The soundtrack of that 2.3-liter triple is part of what brings me a smile. When I ride my Buell Lightning I get a giggle out of the fact that it sounds like a Harley-Davidson Sportster but looks like an alien. The sound of a two-stroke takes you back in time while the power snaps your neck. Engines give motorcycles and cars a ton of character.

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Yet, removing that engine doesn’t make the Zero a worse motorcycle. Instead, the engine noises and vibrations are replaced with tranquil silence. I know it’s probably a placebo of some kind, but when riding the Zero I almost feel like my other senses are heightened. The DSR/X is the perfect motorcycle for sightseeing as you silently make your way across the plains, lakes, farms, or whatever counts as beautiful wherever you live. The Zero is a calming experience. My Triumph practically dares me to break the law but the Zero, it just wants to go whatever speed I’m feeling like on a particular day.

Now, if I’m feeling a bit excited, the motor delivers the punch. Of course, a great thing about electric motors is that they provide their torque right at the twist of your wrist and the DSR/X is no different. Put the ride mode into Canyon and crank the throttle and the motorcycle will do a wheelie as you rocket off down the road. If it weren’t for the Pirelli Scorpion Trail II tires I’d have no doubt it would do a smoky burnout as it lifts the front wheel off of the ground. I wonder how many people heard me giggling as the Zero zipped by them in traffic.

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Electric motorcycle manufacturers love to claim huge torque numbers and Zero is no different as it claims this machine can put out 166 lb-ft. My butt dyno suggests that the DSR/X is writing a check it can cash. The DSR/X pulls like a Triumph Rocket and the power is relentless up to about 80 mph. Past that speed and the Zero starts running out of power. I tested the DSR/X to its top speed. It’s not quick at accelerating past 90 mph, but the motorcycle has no problems reaching its top end of 112 mph.

Just don’t look at how much battery you’re consuming at that speed because you might faint. Don’t worry, I’ll tell you. I started a top speed run with 33 percent battery and despite covering just a few miles, I finished the test with about 20 percent battery. Yeah, don’t do that for too long. 

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The motorcycle comes with Zero’s latest Cypher operating system and a set of standard riding modes including Rain, Eco, Standard, Sport, and Canyon. I’ll cover these in depth in my full review. For now, just know that Eco gives you a dulled throttle response, a lowered top speed, and lots of regen while Sport and Canyon open up full power for your inner hooligan. Sport and Canyon are largely similar but Canyon has more regen so you don’t need to hit the brakes to round curves. The DSR/X has strong regen, but not so strong that you could come to a complete stop without touching the brakes. Instead, it gets you down to about 10 mph, which is actually pretty great for coasting around parking lots and whatnot.

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Put the motorcycle in Canyon mode and it’ll ride closer to a sportbike than an adventure bike. It weighs 544 pounds, but the center of gravity comes in down low. The DSR/X rides like it’s a big ballerina. It turns so easy that you’ll do U-turns for fun and shift your weight just for the machine to gracefully follow your own dance moves. This motorcycle is heavier than my old 470-pound Triumph Tiger, yet it felt considerably lighter.

It’s also pretty competent off-road, too. The Pirelli Scorpion Trail II tires are definitely biased more toward road use than trail use, but they–along with the bike’s traction control and ABS nannies–give me a lot of confidence in the dirt. If you really know what you’re doing, Zero also gives you the ability to tell the nannies to take a hike.

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My favorite “off the map” testing place for motorcycles has giant craters, slippery rocks, ruts, and ash. The DSR/X gets through all of it without making me pucker. What it’s not so good with is when those same surfaces get deeply wet. Those tires don’t seem to handle really mushy mud well at all and that’s where you’re going to get moments where your heart briefly stops. Thankfully, Zero does sell a more hardcore wheel and tire package for this motorcycle.

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This Zero is not my first experience with an electric motorcycle, but it is the first time I’ve been able to use an electric motorcycle like I would my own bike. Honestly? Between the mountain of torque and the silence, I’d love to have an electric motorcycle in the fleet. Yes, I still love to hear the glorious sounds of a gas bike, but after a long day, it’s hard to beat the relaxation offered by the Zero. Well, provided I keep it in Eco mode and stop ripping wheelies.

Life Without A Charger

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As I’ve hinted at before, I don’t live in a major city. I’m about two hours from Milwaukee and about two hours from Chicago in a small city of about 27,000 people. Just a little bit west of me are seemingly endless rows of farmland before you reach Rockford, Illinois. Look east and there are more farms before you start getting into the suburbs. Just north of me is the Wisconsin border with even more farms. The roads around me are all 50 mph and above. When I want to go to some backroads, it takes me about five minutes to find one.

This is all to say that I’m not in a prime area for EV infrastructure. When you check a charging map of my area, you will see some chargers, then when you arrive at them you’ll see signs stating that they aren’t really for public consumption. A surprising number of other chargers are broken. Since I do not have a charger at home, I’ve been using the random few public chargers in my area.

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Despite these limitations, I’ve been able to make it work. I monitor my range so that I can reach a charger with some juice remaining in case a chosen charger is taken or broken. If it’s a shorter ride, I just return to the same charger I started at. There are no fast chargers in my city or even within close riding distance. This means hooking up to a Level 2 charger and waiting about two hours before I can start going again.

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Since the public chargers in my city are not next to anything worth spending two hours at, I usually just end up walking home or having Sheryl pick me up. It’s an imperfect solution and one that would probably be annoying long term, but it does work.

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Unfortunately, this does have some unintended effects. When I normally go for a day’s ride on a gas bike, I’m not afraid to divert from my path to go check something out or try out a new road. After all, it takes just 5 minutes to fill up at any number of gas stations. It’s a bit different with the Zero. When I ride the Zero, I know that taking a 20-mile diversion means I’m 20 miles closer to having to sit and wait at a charger for another two hours again. I could also do shorter charges, but that again means ending up back at the charger again sooner.

Thankfully, in my riding thus far, the 2023 Zero DSR/X has achieved some respectable range. When I do a normal ride, which tends to be more country roads, the occasional small town, and sometimes small cities, I can get a solid 120 miles out of the battery. And that’s a safe 120 miles, where there’s still some percentage left on the state of charge. Those rides aren’t all that efficient, either. I still do full-throttle launches, some high-speed turns, and long stints between stops.

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When I do ride with an easy right hand, I’ve found that the motorcycle will get closer to 140 miles of range. Again, that’s still country roads and small towns, where the fastest I’ll go is 70 mph, but perhaps just for a mile or two. Instead, I’ll be going closer to 50 mph or 55 mph.

Sadly, highway travel does result in the bike drinking more electrons–normal for EVs–and I’ve found that I cannot reach 100 miles of range in such conditions. Going about 75 mph? My unit will go about 80 miles. If you go sustained highway speeds and cannot find fast chargers, you will spend more time charging than riding. Instead, I would say that you should keep the DSR/X on slower country roads and enjoy a long and quiet ride.

A True Adventure Bike, Limited By Infrastructure

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Admittedly, when I first saw the Zero DSR/X I thought the concept of an electric adventure bike was a gimmick. In my testing thus far, it would appear that Zero largely pulled it off. The 2023 Zero DSR/X may not be able to go down the highway as far as your BMW friends can go, but it will do it. And if you keep away from the highway, you can go well over 100 miles on it. Besides, backroads are more fun, anyway.

Crucially, if you take it on an off-road adventure, the battery does last longer than it does on the road. The 2023 Zero DSR/X has a comfortable seat, sophisticated traction control, a suspension that soaks up rough terrain well, and even three large storage compartments built into the body. That fake tank? It’s a 7.4-gallon frunk. There are two more storage compartments built into that chunky fairing, but they can be accessed only using a hex key.

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Unfortunately, for now, and into the indefinite future, electric adventure motorcycles will be limited by where they can top up their batteries. I’ve been to many places so rural and so remote that you couldn’t even get premium fuel, let alone a charge for an electric vehicle. Some of those places had gas stations so old the pumps didn’t even have card readers. It will probably be a long while before you could reliably get a charge in those areas.

Despite that, with some careful planning, electric adventures are still possible. A pair of riders took electric motorcycles on a 1,000-mile trip. But by their own admission, they spent much of the time worrying about their battery charge, where the next charging station is, and riding so slow they were passed by semi trucks. Zero’s motorcycles are certainly capable, but America’s charging network lets them down.

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This takes us back to my original curiosity. Can you live with an EV and not have a way to charge it at home? In my experience thus far, you can, but it can get weird if you don’t live near any fast chargers. I’ve already put more than a few hundred miles on this motorcycle, and each time I parked it at a public charger and waited two hours to get back in the saddle again. That’s not great, but it’s not the end of the world, either. Still, EV charging for people without access to charging at home will be an important conversation to have as America expands its charging network.

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As for the 2023 Zero DSR/X, this lovely machine is a long-termer, so I have more rides on it to go. Next, I’m going to challenge myself to take it on my favorite Wisconsin scenic drive, which will require it to be charged more than once before I can get back home.

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Freelivin1327
Freelivin1327
8 months ago

“These go to 11” (or 110%)
-Spinal Tap

Gary Lynch
Gary Lynch
8 months ago

For a typical motorcyclist, adventurer means you want yo get away from infrastructure.

Like the rest of the Ev world, we’re not there yet, and it will take a number of years to get there. The private sector will need to better invest in charging for there to be enough to make EVs practical.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
8 months ago

I think you are confused as to what a “fast charger” is. Typically when using that term most people are referring to DCFC or DC charging. The Zero is not capable of DC charging. Their “rapid charge” is just dual 6.6kW chargers that are capped at 12.6kW total. For public Level 2 many are only capable of 6.6kW or less, like the Sema Connect station you visited. Charge Point has some 12kW units including the one at the Chevy dealer. Volta stations like the one at Kohl’s are at usually 8.3kW. Electrify America’s J1772 plugs are 7kW. So being in a big city isn’t likely to improve public charging performance, even if the bike is equipped with the dual charger option. Of course more locations would be more convenient.

Zeppelopod
Zeppelopod
8 months ago

Have y’all considered any ebike-topian? There are review sites out there but they seem to cater towards hardcore bicyclists looking to drop thousands of dollars on a carbon fiber jockstrap rather than us plebs looking to have a healthier / more sustainable commute.

CSRoad
CSRoad
8 months ago

The charging infrastructure isn’t there and the battery tech isn’t really there yet either. If the limitations fit within ones potential use, it’s cool.
Is it 20+ kilodollars cool? IMHO nope.

My two wheeled “escapes” are going to be fueled by gasoline for the foreseeable future.

Fix It Again Tony
Fix It Again Tony
8 months ago
Reply to  CSRoad

The charging infrastructure is there to not take an hour to charge up a 17kwh battery. If they’re charging extra for the optional charger, it should’ve been a good fast charger.

Last edited 8 months ago by Fix It Again Tony
Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
8 months ago

Would a more conservative motor, say 60-80 hp, and 50-75 lbs of torque result in greater range? My old Honda CB 700SC had 80 hp and 45 lbs torque and that was more than enough to enjoy both long rides and fast runs. Just wondering if an electric bike slanted toward adventure riding would derive a range benefit from a little downsizing in power. I know electric doesn’t work the same as ICE in these cases, but I’m not sure where the comparisons fail.

CSRoad
CSRoad
8 months ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

The old Nighthawk would already have about the same amount of usable power, maybe not handle as well, but would deliver about 40 mpg at freeway speeds and with the 4 gallon gas tank have more range between “charges”.
50 mpg would be possible on slower speed roads, as long as you kept the right hand “conservative”.
With a highway speed throttle roll on the 1980’s Honda will pull up to 140mph or so guess which one would come out ahead? Standing start acceleration, the Nighthawk could run a 12 second flat 1/4 mile. It was no slouch.
A win for the almost 4 decades old sporting, low maintenance bike.
The list price $3,400 is about $10,000 today.

There are still a fair number of decent ICE bikes for $10,000 or less, I think it is hard to make the case for an EV bike to a motorcyclist wanting performance, flexibility and value.

3WiperB
3WiperB
8 months ago

Zero: …the numbers all go to 110. Look…right across the board.

Marty: Ahh…oh, I see….

Zero: 110…110…110….

Marty: …and most of these go up to 100….

Zero: Exactly.

Marty: Does that mean it’s…more full? Is it any more full?

Zero: Well, it’s ten more full, isn’t it? It’s not 100. You see,
most…most blokes, you know, will be done charging at 100. You’re on 100
here…all the way up…all the way up….

Marty: Yeah….

Zero: …all the way up. You’re on 100 on your battery…where can you go
from there? Where?

Freelivin1327
Freelivin1327
8 months ago
Reply to  3WiperB

Ha ha yeah that’s one of the funniest movies ever!
“These go to 11”
-Spinal Tap

Widgetsltd
Widgetsltd
8 months ago

“Optional is the 6 kW Rapid Charger, which gives you 12.6 kW of charging power, capable of getting you from dead to 95 percent in about an hour.”
Is this Schrodinger’s charger: simultaneously rated at both 6kW and 12.6 kW? Seriously, though – the 12.6 kW is a DC fast charge, right?

Tekamul
Tekamul
8 months ago
Reply to  Widgetsltd

The standard charger is 6.6kw. The rapid charge option adds an additional 6kw of charging. This is on L2. You won’t find DC charge on a Zero because they use a lower voltage system.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
8 months ago
Reply to  Widgetsltd

From what I’ve found the choice is between the standard 6.6kW on board charger and two onboard chargers that combined can pump in 12.6kW.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
8 months ago

What would charging look like in your area if even 15 other people relied on the public charging full time, as you did for this article? Do you think that would drastically impact the ability to charge how you did? Would you end up in likely repeat scenarios where you are waiting on a charger, or stopping at 4 to find one available?

3WiperB
3WiperB
8 months ago

I agree. Level 2 infrastructure is horrible. I’m working with a number of communities that have grants for charging, and the number one place I tell them they can make the most impact is locating charging close to multifamily housing. Even better if it’s by multifamily housing, but also in a downtown area so that it can be used at daytime and at night. Anyone who has a garage will just charge at home. Adding charging near apartments gives everyone in that complex the chance to own an EV or PHEV. Most people with EV’s only need public charging along the interstate because it’s typically only needed on long trips. Otherwise people are charging at home. Level 2 locations other places just become opportunity charging (a place to get some power if you happen to be someplace). I’m sticking with PHEV’s for now. I can charge at home, but I’m never dependent on finding a charging station. I never pass up some free electrons if the opportunity arises though.

Space
Space
8 months ago
Reply to  3WiperB

Even if you can just get level 1 in apartments that could be a game changer. People who have short commutes or can charge at work could sustain on that alone.

3WiperB
3WiperB
8 months ago
Reply to  Space

Yep. Level 1 overnight covers an average commute. Even level 1 at the office works for most.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
8 months ago

No it would not take 8 people like you to break charging in your area. The likelihood of all 8 needing a full charge at the same time is very low.

Lokki
Lokki
8 months ago

I don’t know…. Motorcycles (for me) are about freedom. Paying $24,000 so I can “usually just end up walking home or having Sheryl pick me up” doesn’t do it for me.

One is certainly saving not enough money on gas to generate any meaningful or measurable savings, and the reduction of the emissions of one ‘Liter-Bike’ don’t amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Maybe not even a single bean.

That’s pretty expensive toy which offers nothing of real world value except whatever the “Look at ME!” value is.

The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
8 months ago

I enjoyed my two years living in McHenry. It didn’t end so well but that wasn’t its fault. Watching people garrote themselves riding snowmobiles along the shores of the lake was always entertaining.

10001010
10001010
8 months ago

Maybe I’m just stuck in the past but I will never understand $20K for a bike.

Tristan Hixon
Tristan Hixon
8 months ago
Reply to  10001010

I mean, within my lifetime houses averaged $84,300 and now average $454,900. Big Mac meals were $2.59 and now average $8.64. And I’m just a millennial.

So, yes, you’re stuck in the past.

Freelivin1327
Freelivin1327
8 months ago
Reply to  10001010

I agree; it’s the principle of the matter…and no, you’re not “stuck in the past”

Last edited 8 months ago by Freelivin1327
Stig's Cousin
Stig's Cousin
8 months ago

“Sadly, highway travel does result in the bike drinking more electrons–normal for EVs”

Highway range with cruise control set sucks (I get maybe 70 miles at 70 MPH on my Livewire), but I’m amazed at how much range increases when your speed varies a bit. I used to commute to work on an urban interstate where speed varied from 55 to 70 due to traffic. On those rides I could get ~110 miles of range. My bike is set up for maximum regeneration (the bike can come to a complete stop without using the brakes) so I probably get more benefit than most riders, but I’m still surprised at how much regenerative braking adds to range.

Also, I’m curious how quiet a Zero really is. While my Livewire is far quieter than an ICE bike (which is nice, by the way; police do not notice you no matter how many traffic laws you are breaking [or so I have been told]), there is enough sound that it is engaging. I think H-D deliberately engineered it to make some noise, so I’m curious how much of that sound is intentional and how much sound is inherent to an electric motorcycle.

Stig's Cousin
Stig's Cousin
8 months ago

Interesting. I think I know what you mean with the “old washing machine motor” sound. Mine has a lot of various sounds, particularly when you accelerate rapidly from a stop. I haven’t had a chance to ride a Zero, but I would love to see how the bikes compare.

- O S G O -
- O S G O -
8 months ago

Sounds like a washing machine?

Avoid the spin-cycle!

Hah, I made a pun! (Gr8t review btw!)

Gubbin
Gubbin
8 months ago
Reply to  Stig's Cousin

I recall the bevel drive on the LiveWire makes a nice growl. My Zero makes a quiet turbine-like whirr, especially when I get bored and twist the fast-forward control.

Jdoubledub
Jdoubledub
8 months ago
Reply to  Stig's Cousin

I actually find myself praying for a traffic jam on longer rides on my Zero DSR so I can extend the range lol

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
8 months ago

I’m wondering if it’d do any good for there to be range-extending or “charge while on the kickstand” solar panels, maybe off the tail or integrated in some way. Or perhaps a kit with a fold out panel and converter you can bring out of a saddle bag. Just spit balling, but also curious.

Ted Fort
Ted Fort
8 months ago

The largest solar array I could imagine fitting onto that bike, if it folded up, would be about 300 watts. You almost never get full power out of a panel, but on a sunny day you’re probably going to get around 80-225 watts out of a 300 watt panel. Let’s assume 10 hours of charging time in a given day before the sun gets too low to be practical. That would be 2,000 wH in a day, and that’s on the VERY high end of possible. It’s a 15kwH battery, so your best case scenario with a large suitcase solar array on a clear day with good sun would be a 13% charge increase per day. Put another way, a 300 watt solar array would give you around 1 to 2 miles of range per sunny hour of charging. It isn’t nothing, but it isn’t great either.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
8 months ago

I’m in a similar situation in that I can’t charge at home. But I don’t have a “Sheryl” to come pick me up, nor is there an EV charger within walking distance of my home. At the rate that public charging infrastructure is being built, the odds of me owning an EV within the next 20 years approaches zero (pun intended).

Bearddevil
Bearddevil
8 months ago

I’ve had a Brammo Empulse R for about 8 years now, and it’s a fabulous around-town commuter bike. It just rides good. Even if the shifter is clunky, it’s still just a great bike to ride around town. But it’s not going to get me on any long exploratory rides, even though I wish it could.

Stink E. Jones
Stink E. Jones
8 months ago

Why do motorcycle manufacturers insist on perching those brake fluid reservoirs that look like a giant clear jar of urine on the handlebars?
They used to be square and metal and we liked them that way.
And get off my lawn.

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
8 months ago
Reply to  Stink E. Jones

Because stonks

Torque
Torque
8 months ago
Reply to  Stink E. Jones

Cost
If the bike maker could get away with making them out of a zip lock bag they would

CSRoad
CSRoad
8 months ago
Reply to  Stink E. Jones

It is just a question of style.
The integral rectangular box with the sight glass is still out there on quite a few front brakes.

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