One of the most pervasive fears among all of us is fear of the unknown. Not knowing what’s going on or what could happen can be terrifying, especially when you must make a decision based on what little information you have. And since that’s how our game is played, you’re going to have to make a decision. I won’t give you much information about our competitors, though, because there’s not much to give.
Yesterday we had a lot more information to go on, and I think that worked against the Audi. Its seller’s claims of boosted horsepower and a booming stereo might attract a certain type of buyer, but it wasn’t you lot. The shiny red BMW 540i absolutely crushed it in the poll.
As much as I like the idea of a stickshift Audi Quattro, I’m inclined to agree. That one has been messed with too much. And even if it were stock, the S4 is just overkill. I’d rather have a nice old 4000 Quattro. I’m not terribly enamored with the 540i either; I’d prefer a six-cylinder E39 with a manual, but between these two, it feels like the safer bet.

Shopping for used cars used to be a much more nerve-wracking process. You had to find cars either by spotting something parked in a driveway with a “for sale” sign on it, or reading the classified ads in the newspaper, or a paper like the Tradin’ Times, available at most gas stations and grocery stores for a dollar. The ads had brief descriptions, usually no more than 10-15 words, and if you were lucky, one postage-stamp-sized photo. After that, there was a phone number. You had to call the seller if you wanted to go see the car. I may complain about Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace, but honestly, they’re a dream come true compared to all that. Some sellers seem to think they’re still charged by the word, though, and don’t realize you’re allowed a whole mess of photos, and so their ads still leave you guessing. Today we’re going to look at two cars for the same price, for sale from the same dealership in Lincoln, Nebraska, a dealership that still clings to the old ways.
2006 Buick Rendezvous CXL – $1,900

Engine/drivetrain: 3.5-liter OHV V6, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Lincoln, NE
Odometer reading: 185,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives
I’m sure everyone reading this is familiar with the Pontiac Aztek, that gawky, strangely lovable crossover that was the hero car in the short-lived TV series Dark Angel as well as becoming the darling of Pebble Beach years later. But what’s not as well-remembered is that the Aztek had a sister model, the Buick Rendezvous, which had much more conservative styling but somehow managed to look even gawkier. Both the Aztek and the Rendezvous were harbingers of today’s locust-like plague of crossover SUVs, but you don’t see them much anymore. Thankfully.

The Rendezvous uses the same platform as GM’s minivans at the time, and so shares their drivetrains. This being a 2006 model, it’s powered by a 3.5-liter “High Value” V6 engine, which is basically just an evolution of the same 60-degree V6 that had been stuffed in the front of mid-level GM cars since the Chevy Citation. That’s not a bad thing, though; generally speaking, if you’re looking at cheap GM cars, you want the most prehistoric drivetrain you can find, not the latest and greatest engineering triumph that has been cost-cut into unreliability. The only info we get about this car’s mechanical status is that it runs and drives. Anything beyond that, you’ll have to find out in person.

The Rendezvous had another feature that is everywhere in crossovers now: a third-row seat, allowing for seven passengers. I’ve been crammed into the third row of some other mid-sized crossovers before, and I can tell you that if you’re planning on carrying seven adults, just buy a damn minivan instead. They’ll hate you less. In a car like this, calling “shotgun” is an act of self-preservation. I wish I could show you what the interior of this one looks like, but the seller has neglected to take any photos of it.

There are four photos of the outside, though, and they all show minor damage to the bumpers and trim. There’s a hole in the rear plastic bumper cover, and one corner of the front one is held in place by zip ties. Whatever works, right? I don’t see any obvious rust, but there’s an awful lot of plastic cladding on this car. Things could be pretty nasty underneath.
2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT2 – $1,900

Engine/drivetrain: 3.8-liter OHV V6, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Lincoln, NE
Odometer reading: 212,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives, but says “NO TEST DRIVES”
Ah, the W-body. That long-time resident of cheap used car lots that is finally starting to fade away. Oh, there will be Grand Prixes (Grands Prix? How the hell do you pluralize that?) and Buick Centurys and Chevy Impalas around for a long time to come, but they’re finally starting to succumb to rust and massively high mileage. They’re still a pretty good deal as far as cheap used cars go, though: reasonably comfortable, surprisingly efficient, and able to be fixed with nothing more than duct tape and swear words.

This is the first year of the final generation Grand Prix, when the two-door model was dropped, and the standard engine became the legendary 3800 V6, in its Series III form. It’s a big, lazy engine for a car this size, and that’s part of its success: it doesn’t scream, or sing, it drawls, and moseys. This one has well over 200,000 miles on it, and the seller says it runs and drives – but for some reason, the ad says “NO TEST DRIVES.” Yes, in all caps like that. What the hell? Who would drop two grand on a car without taking it around the block first? It’s not like it’s a Corvette or something that someone is going to abuse on the test drive. It’s a damn Pontiac sedan. I really wonder what the story is there, but not quite enough to call the dealership and find out.

There aren’t any photos of the inside of this one, either, but we know what mid-2000s Pontiacs look like inside: lots of gray plastic, buttons galore, and probably pretty comfy seats. It looks like this one has black leather seats in it. What condition are they in? Who knows? If they won’t let you drive it, maybe they’ll at least let you sit in it.

It’s starting to get pretty crusty around the wheel wells, but from what I’ve seen since moving to Michigan, these cars can get really spectacularly rusty and still hold together somehow. It’s probably got at least a couple years left in it before it becomes a problem.
I know why small dealerships like this write such terse ads. They don’t want you basing your decision on a description and photos. They want you to come down and look at the car, get you into that portable construction trailer they use as an office, and apply the hard-sell. But since we’re only looking at them for fun anyway, we have to go by what’s in front of us, and in the case of these two, that ain’t much. What do you think? Which one seems like a more safe bet for the price?






Rendezvous, they are hard to kill. Grand prix probably has something wrong with it. Probably the transmission. Plus rather a Buick and rather not a sedan.
No test drives, “Cars4Less” dealership, mid-2000s GM products. How many red flags do you need?
Why would GM would have both a 3.5 and a 3.8 V6 in the first place, and why would the 3.8 Buick engine be in the Pontiac but the Buick has something else?
Same reason that in the 60s Buick, Olds, Pontiac and Chevy all had engines with the same displacement but nothing interchanged (400ci, 455ci, 350ci, ect).
I like the Grand Prix fairly well, but with that rust and NO TEST DRIVES I will go with the Buick SUV. What a terrible choice.
I can’t believe I picked the Rendezvous. I had a Grand Prix in the past, a new 2002 GT 4-door. It was a decent highway cruiser and reliably got 30 mpg doing that. There were issues – with practice I could replace window regulators in the dark with a blindfold on – but I actually have relatively fond memories of it. But this one, between the obvious rot and NO TEST DRIVES? No thanks, even at that price.
Either of these cars are plausible at this price, but I chose the Grand Prix because of the unkillable 3800 engine. Something big is going to fail on this car at that mileage and age, but not that.
With that all caps NO TEST DRIVES, it seems that big failure has already happened. Maybe the trans, maybe a rotting subframe being held on by duct tape and bubble gum, but it’s already happened
Grand Prix! I don’t want an SUV…I’m guessing maybe they mean no test drives unless you’re a serious buyer (it’s still fucking stupid and pointless though, and makes them look bad for even putting that) but if I’m buying any vehicle, I’m always going to fucking test drive it first!!! That’s the #1 thing you do, or 100% no sale.
(obviously it’s different w/ project cars, but that’s a whole different game of looking everything over)
I miss Pontiac!
I’ve rather liked the Aztec since its introduction, but upon reflection, maybe I’d really rather have a Buick, more than any other car, this year. This was the top of the line CXL, and they’d had five years to fix what was FUBAR with the line so maybe you’re getting something decent that won’t be terribly difficult/pricey to fix.
I think there’s little else I can say to trash the other offering that others haven’t expressed more eloquently. Except that maybe its 3.8 V6 is sufficiently sought after that someone will offer ~$900 just to part it all out, that’s this dealer’s game and seen in that retail light it’s not that scammy?
tough call, the short minivan 3.5 is not as reliable as the 3.4 it replaced, I think it was the VVT mostly that caused the issues. But the 3.8 is great in the poncho. however the poncho body cladding often hides massive rust issues underneath, and some of that is showing anyway. I might go with the Pontiac if I had say an 88 Fiero GT that I wanted to upgrade, otherwise I guess the Buick
this is the non-VVT variant, though. They can do 200K+ with regular maintenance
Having put some miles on a company Rendezvous back in the day, I’m no fan, It was underpowered, wallowy with any load, and was developing transmission issues far too soon when we got rid of it. Still, this one gets my vote over the rusty Grand Prix I’m forbidden to test drive. Both new owners are going to hate these cars.
I’ll take the tall hatchback and replace the black zip-ties with white ones while I put my life back together from whatever landed me desperate in Nebraska with hardly any money.
The redness of the Pontiac’s flags make the Buick’s look more like rose flags in comparison. So, Buick it is despite not wanting an ugly crossover.
I had forgotten about Dark Angel. I love some low budget dystopian scifi. The earlier Dark Matter, Continuum, Orphan Black and Travelers. I miss the Syfy channel.
On topic, Rendezvous today.
The Rendezvous makes the Aztek look downright handsome. That being said no test drive no buy, so Buick it is. And omg please cut the ends off those zip ties!
I would rather have the Pontiac, but seeing as it’s at a dealership and you’re not allowed to test drive it tells me there’s something quite wrong with it. So the ugly Buick it is.
I was initially going to go Grand Prix, but NO TEST DRIVES tells me that Pontiac is an absolute heap. So I’ll roll up my sleeves, head into the office/trailer, and see if I can’t knock $250 off the price of the dorky Rendezvous.
I had a Rendezvous. That was the vehicle that made me swore off GM for life. I only voted the Grand Prix because it isn’t a Rendezvous. The Grand Prix is probably hot garbage too if we’re being honest here.
NO TEST DRIVES = no purchase.
I think we have more information than you are acknowledging, Mark. This dealer does not appear to prohibit test drives for its vehicles aside from this Grand Prix (at least, none of the ads for other vehicles include this line). It is safe to assume there is something that makes it not roadworthy. I don’t know what the problem is, but that is enough for me to know I don’t want this car.
Buick wins in a default judgment.
(I probably would have voted for the Buick anyway, though)
I would much rather own a Grand Prix. When these were a staple of the rental fleets, I always smiled when I got one. They’re extremely comfortable, have plenty of power for daily use, and can knock down 30ish mpg on the highway.
But I’m not touching one with rusty wheel wells and NO TEST DRIVES in all caps. I guarantee there is nothing holding those rocker moldings up but memories, and I got $5 that the reason they won’t let you test drive it is the subframe mounts have also rusted away and it handles extremely sketchily.
The Rendezvous may be a hideous bag of milk toast, but it doesn’t show any rust. The 3.5 is no 3800, but it’s alright. I had an ’07 Impala with it, and it did just fine. Well, technically I still have it. It’s sitting in the Michigan woods on my buddy’s farm, awaiting its viking funeral.
^^ Midwestern wisdom right here ^^
I have seen some shit. Jacking up that Impala is the first time I experienced the phenomenon of: Jack go up, car no go up. It left a pile of former rocker panel in my driveway.
I guess I’m voting Rendezvous. In truth, I don’t want either or anything off this dealer’s lot. Hot garbage. I’m not buying any car that I can’t test drive, esp. the Rusty Special.
I wonder why you can’t test drive the Grand Prix but you can the Rendezvous? Maybe stuff will start falling off the car? That dealer is shady. Just look at some of the other cars he has for sale and the descriptions. Every car ad has the same 4 photo angles as if they spent 10 seconds walking in a circle around the car. And another 30 seconds writing the copy for it.
The subframe mounts are probably rotted out on the Grand Prix. That’s the W-body’s achilles heel. I bet it handles extremely poorly on its way to the junkyard. Shame, because those were actually nice driving cars.
You’re probably right. But that is one hell of an Achilles heel!
Yeah. The bigger H-body cars like the Park Avenue have the same one. Even a car that looks pretty good up top, can be total junk underneath.
I know the Rendezvous was ahead of its time and wasn’t even a terrible car or anything, but I am very glad that I rarely have to look at them any more.
I mean, these both suck as the Pontiac is noticeably rusty which I hate, but at least it isn’t a damn crossover, yuck. So Pontiac it is today.
I only picked the Rendezvous for lack of rust in the photos… at $1900 my primary concern is about how big of a PITA will it be to work on, given the wheel arch rust on the Grand Prix every suspension bolt is seized and that will make for a lousy ownership experience.
The Rendezvous might be the more practical choice, but dang, that thing is too ugly for me to drive it every day.
While I prefer the Gran Prix, I’m taking the Ren-dez-vous cause that Boomer sure knows what he got, and you can get off his lawn for even asking a very normal car buying question.
Rendezvous. I can test drive it.
Also, stealerships advertise this way so they can get you on the lot and sell you something.
Yup, the more info that this dealer gives about those cars, the less likely you are to inquire or show up there.