Welcome back! After a week of attempting to celebrate domestic models with varying degrees of success, this week I promise you won’t see a single American nameplate here. We’re starting out with a pair of two-doors from Japanese makes with a simple connection: they both have black stripes that someone added.
I knew going into Friday’s Showdown that Corvettes, especially C3s and C4s, are a love-them-or-hate-them proposition, and that a lot of you were going to turn your noses up at both of them. But I was surprised by the positive comments, especially in favor of the C3. The disco ‘Vettes are generally seen as the Mustang IIs of the Corvette world, but plenty of you said that the C3 is your favorite Corvette body style. But the C4’s fuel injection and far more modern chassis design made it the logical choice, and the clear winner in the poll.
This is a tough one for me. The C4 was the poster-car dream when I was eleven, but the C3 is the classic Corvette shape. Luckily, I’ve driven both a C3 and a C4, both with automatics, so I can judge them by more than gut feeling. The C4 is the better driving car, hands-down. But the C3 is more fun, even with less power. And I think I’d have more success tinkering with the older, less electronics-heavy car. So I’m going to go against the grain and pick the C3.

Stripes on cars were originally just a way to tell cars apart on a race track. Briggs Cunningham is credited with the first use of racing stripes, on his LeMans entries in the early ’50s, and since then, stripes have become a symbol of speed. If it’s got stripes on it, it must be faster, right? But the truth is that there are all kinds of reasons to put stripes on a car. My dad added black stripes to the lower part of the doors on his tan VW Beetle to hide rust bubbles. I put stripes on my MGB GT just to break up the sea of yellow paint. Both of today’s competitors have had black stripes added, one rather haphazardly, and the other much more carefully. Which car is more worthy of such adornment will be up to you to decide.
1979 Honda Accord LX – $4,500

Engine/drivetrain: 1.8-liter OHC inline 4, two-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Douglasville, GA
Odometer reading: 40,000 miles, but odometer is broken
Operational status: Runs and drives, needs a tune-up
Honda’s Civic was a huge hit, but a tiny car. If Honda wanted to increase its sales, it needed to increase the size of its cars. Enter the Accord in 1977. A three-door hatchback was the only body style available at first, but a year later a four-door sedan appeared, along with the LX trim level which would become the most common Accord. This 1979 model is an LX, but it’s a hatchback – and an automatic.

For 1979, an automatic in an Accord meant Honda’s two-speed Hondamatic semi-auto. There’s a torque converter instead of a clutch, but you have to shift between the two gears yourself. If you’re not in a hurry, however, you can just leave it in high gear all the time and accelerate at a more leisurely pace. Driving that weird transmission is a 1.8 liter engine with Honda’s CVCC intake design. It just had its carb rebuilt, but the seller says it needs some tuning yet. The low mileage isn’t accurate; the seller says the speedometer doesn’t work, so obviously the odometer doesn’t either. And neither, sadly, do those cool mechanical service reminders.

The interior looks pretty good, but it has aftermarket seat covers, and there’s no way of knowing what the seats look like under them. There’s a piece of tape or something on the driver’s side door panel. I have no idea what that’s about. The LX package included air conditioning, but I’m assuming it no longer works.

Early Accords came in some great colors. I think this is one of two different greens that were available. It’s actually kind of a shame that someone covered some of it up with black paint. It could have been done to hide rust, but I doubt it. The door bottoms and rocker panels look rust-free.
1989 Mazda MX-6 LX – $3,450

Engine/drivetrain: 2.2-liter OHC inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD
Location: East Wallingford, VT
Odometer reading: 79,000 miles
Operational status: Doesn’t say, actually
Okay, you got me: this is technically not a Japanese car. It’s a Mazda by design, but it was built in Flat Rock, Michigan, in the same factory as the Ford Probe. Under the skin, they’re the same car. But while the Probe had its own swoopy sheetmetal, the Mazda MX-6 is basically just a two-door 626. This appears to be the mid-level LX model, based on the options, but it lacks the badge on the front fender, so I can’t be sure.

The MX-6’s drivetrain is the same as the Probe, a 2.2-liter Mazda four-cylinder engine and a smooth-shifting five-speed manual transmission. It has really low miles on it, and the seller calls it a “barn find.” I assume that means it has been sitting for a while. I can’t quite read the year number on the license plate tag, but it might be a 14, which would mean it has been off the road for twelve years. Expect to do some refurbishing, even if it starts and runs fine. You’ll probably want new tires, too.

It does look a little tired inside. From the fading and the big crack in the dash, I have a feeling this car was parked next to the barn rather than in it. That’s a lot of sun damage. Apart from the crack, it’s in good condition, but all those cloth and vinyl and plastic pieces are supposed to be the same shade of burgundy.

The stripes on this one appear to be painted on too, and there are stripes on the hood as well as the sides. Someone spent some money to have that done. Actually, now that I look at it, this might be a GT model. The wheels and spoiler are correct for it. If it is a GT, that means it has the turbocharged engine and adjustable suspension. If not, then someone added GT wheels and a spoiler to an LX. See, this is why we need underhood photos, people…
Well-preserved cars like these are cool to see, but it also makes me kind of sad. They’re not supposed to still exist; they should have been driven and used up and recycled into washing machines years ago. The fact that they do still exist gives someone else a chance to appreciate them, but time takes its toll whether a car gets driven or not. You’ll have your work cut out for you bringing either one of them back to its former glory. Which one is worth the effort?









I’d love to see an article on the weird semi-automatic transmissions that appeared from time to time. I hadn’t even heard of the Hondamatic until today! Though I’ve seen Automatic Stickhift Beetles, with two speeds plus a low range but no clutch pedal.
A Mazda in Vermont vs a Honda in a non-rusty state.
Vermont is known for rust, and Mazda is known for rust. How much of the car is left underneath?
Definitely needs to be checked, but it’s probably not too bad or you’d see it in the body or, more likely, it wouldn’t be here at all.
Huge Honda fan, but I had to go Mazda. Beyond the semi-auto, and semi cra-cra price, the “Still needs a tune” after the carb rebuild scares the beans out me. If its similar to the civic, that carb is a single barrel with multiple secondaries that are vacuum controlled. They equaled insanely low emissions and wicked mpgs back in the day, but at this age, the leaks man. A proper tune up might mean ripping it all out and slapping a Webber on it.
This is the correct answer. They were great little cars. I have heard the Honda carbs from that era were almost impossible to rebuild.
100%.
Hitachi and Denso cloned Bosh L-Jetronic EFI back in the 70s with Nissan. There was no good reason for all that craziness!
That green color on the Accord would look great on the new Civic.
4500 for a hondamatic accord? are they our of their GD minds? Mazda all the way! I always liked the 626/MX-6!
My track/CC coach in high school had a Civic wagon with the “Hondamatic”. It was reliable, but slow as molasses. I’m taking the MX-6 for the five-speed alone.
2-speed Hondamatic, the “here, damn” of transmissions. Buying one new back in the day was like ordering the chicken in a seafood restaurant.
The sad irony is Honda could’ve offered nothing but manual transmissions back in the VRA quota era and still sold every one they could bring in.
The Mazda but I’d want to have it up on a lift and a thorough inspection for rust. It’s close to me and I’m already seeing surface rust in the inner wheelarches of my 6-year-old car that I plan to Fluid Film the hell out of before winter.
You waited 6 years to fluid film it? 😛
Or did you just get the car recently? Did you buy the car new or used?
And of course, since it’s Vermont, is the title sketchy? LOL
A two-speed semi auto being spun by 70ish horsepower sounds like a goddamn nightmare.
Even the automatic in my vintage mini is a 4 speed!
We’re going Zoom Zoom today.
The Ford, er, Mazda is objectively better, but I had to vote for that classic, Green Accord. I’ve got a soft spot for those. I guess I’m the sucker that was born for this particular sale.
As much as I respect items in original condition, I feel like a well done restomod on this Honda is in order.
Tying this to another thread: What engine swap would you want in this car?
I say you gotta keep it in house.
A built B16B with straight pipes screaming down the freeway at 9000ish rpms = Metallic mint green glory.
I’ve got to agree with you. That would be awesome! (Although I don’t do straight pipes. Put a cat and muffler on it for me.)
K24 and a 5 speed manual
Nice!
Oh how I have always loved the Flat Rock twins the MX6 and Probe, especially the 2nd gen Probe BUT the little Accord steals my heart. Minus the awful black stripe.
I wanted to vote the Honda as I like the cool little hatch back but at this point in its life I think it needs a engine+ manual swap and I rather just get the Mazda that already has a more modern engine+manual. I do think the Mazda looks cool also (besides the goofy stripe). But Mazda it is.
Too much ptsd trying to rebuild a cvcc engine on a similar era accord sedan. The hood opened backwards. If my dad and I had put the effort we spent bitching about it into just pulling the hood would have been a lot easier. Poor thing never really recovered from my sister over heating it to the point the dipstick blew out of the block and landed across the sparkplug wires but we tried. Anyway, the Mazda sounds like more fun and it’s cheaper.
…I’ll risk the barn-find-ness for the stick. If I want a weird Auto box, I’ll borrow my brother’s ’51 fluid-drive Chrysler.
Shit. I love that Accord for its green paint and wierdo transmission, but I don’t want to pay more and still need to fix all kinds of problems. The MX-6 should be easier to tune up and get back on the road.
A high school buddy had a Civic with the Honda-semi-matic. Dire. I am sure it’s MUCH better in an Accord.
I always liked this era of Mazda, so it gets my vote. I’d want a HARD look underneath though, being in VT, land of salty salt.
As much as I like that Honda green the carb issue and go-kart transmission kill it for me. Plus that Mazda is awesome in just about every way except for the faded interior. Must have been a barn with big windows…
As an aside, storing cars in my barn is far from ideal. A lot of moisture on the first floor concrete and not much better upstairs on the wood floor. I try to air it out on dry windy days but then the barn swallows move in and poop on everything. Installing a big exhaust fan is on the list. The barn is huge (which encourages me to collect big junk) but I wish I could replace it with a small functional garage.
“Honda’s two-speed Hondamatic semi-auto” sounds painful. I always wanted a Probe, and this fella ain’t too far from that. Super easy choice, and with the Internet money saved I can buy four new tires and then some.
Yeah, I had a 4spd. Civic while a friend had the Hondamatic. It was really more noisemaker than anything else.
Today is an easy choice: Mazda.
I like the looks of the Accord. Not a fan of the automatic, but the wife can’t drive a manual. So today I pick the 2-speed Accord for the wife. Although I wonder where the driver side window crank is…
Superintendent Chalmers may be proud of his 1979 Honda Accord, but I think I’ll go with the five-speed MX-6 for my ride through Springfield.
Yeah…this one doesn’t even have the H! How will people know it’s a Honda??
I’m going Mazda today for sure. My garage-owning friend can help me get it straightened out. I have money.
I’m no mathamagician, but 5>2 and manual>automatic. Oh, and EFI is better than carbs.
They do visually compete, but driving experience? Nope.
The CVCC carb was rebuilt but still needs to be “tuned”. Sorry, there weren’t many around to properly rebuild them back in the day. I’m afraid it will never be the same again.
Yeah, that’s what threw me off the Honda. Good luck getting that carb straightened out.
Someone will have fun with the rat’s nest of vacuum hoses for sure.
This is for an ’85 Civic, but I doubt it’s THAT much different in the earlier Accord:
https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/but-wait-theres-more/a1860746/run-away-screaming-1985-honda-cvcc-vacuum-hose-routing-diagram/
TANSTAAFL – this is how you paid for not having a cat in those lean-burn CVCCs, though by ’85 ever-tightening regs mean this one should have one. Didn’t change the rat’s nest though.
Straight up, the color of the Honda is amazing – haven’t seen one like that in years. That said, I’m going with the Mazda because it’s so late 80’s in the best possible way. Those things were a ton of fun to drive, and the 5-speed brings it home. Also, don’t think I didn’t notice the multi-channel graphic equalizer right behind that gearshift.
Yes! I’d buy my next car in that color if it was available. It’s hard to get a green car paint correct, but this is it!
Yeah, I feel like the Honda belongs in a museum, not on the street.