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Which Rare Stickshift Would You Stick With? 1987 GMC Safari vs 1992 Ford Explorer

Sbsd 4 29 2026

Back in the days when a manual transmission was referred to as a “standard transmission,” it really did come standard in a lot of cars. But in a lot of cases, the manual version only really existed in brochures; hardly anyone actually bought a car so equipped. They were rare enough in the wild when they were new, but seeing one now is like catching a prehistoric fish.

Yesterday’s cars are pretty rare these days as well. I confess that the final tally surprised me; I would never have guessed that a glacially-slow Volkswagen could beat a 20R-equipped Toyota. I suspect that if the Corona had been a manual, it would have easily beaten the little diesel Rabbit. Of course, if the Corona were a manual, it would have been turned into a crappy half-assed “drift car” ten years ago.

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I’m on Team Rabbit with the majority of you. I cut my teeth on Volkswagens of this era, and I still really like them. Such a slow 0-60 time would require some careful planning ahead, but it’s really not all that much slower than my Chevy pickup, and I get around fine in that. This Rabbit uses about a fourth as much fuel doing it, too.

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I’m not one of those people who think every car can be improved by a manual transmission. I see photos of manual-swapped Crown Vics and think, “Why?” But I do enjoy seeing rare manual-equipped versions of common cars. And I can definitely see the appeal of them, especially if the automatic transmission offered in them has a bad reputation. Let’s take a look at two such rarities for sale today.

1987 GMC Safari – $2,000

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Engine/drivetrain: 4.3-liter OHV V6, five-speed manual, RWD

Location: Lowell, MI

Odometer reading: 146,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Yes, that’s right – for the first few years, you could get a Chevy Astro or GMC Safari van with a stickshift. I remember seeing exactly one in my time working at the garage in St. Paul, owned by a courier service. I had to (or got to, depending on your perspective) drive it a couple of times. I actually kind of liked the novelty of it, but the Astro/Safari’s notoriously tight footwell gets even more crowded with a clutch pedal, and the shifter is awkward to reach. I can understand why they didn’t sell well.

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You could also get one with an Iron Duke four-cylinder, but I’ve never seen one of those. The 4.3-liter V6 was the de facto standard engine in these vans, even before it became the actual standard engine in 1990. It’s a good engine that punches well above its weight, though it is a little thirsty. This one runs and drives well, according to the seller, but they don’t give many details beyond that.

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This van is also rare in that it lacks windows in the rearmost positions. It is a passenger van, though, not a cargo model. Someone added wood paneling to the rear walls, ceiling, and floor, which if nothing else probably makes it feel less tin-canny than a cargo van. All the seats are in good condition except for the driver’s seat, which is badly worn. It looks like this seven-passenger van spent a lot of time with only one passenger. The seller says neither the air conditioning nor the radio work at the moment, so you’ve got a little work to do.

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It’s pretty clean outside, especially for a Michigan van. I see a few minor rust spots, but nothing serious. The paint isn’t in bad shape, and the Oldsmobile hubcaps actually look pretty good on it.

1992 Ford Explorer Sport – $4,999

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Engine/drivetrain: 4.0-liter OHV V6, five-speed manual, RWD

Location: El Paso, TX

Odometer reading: 70,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Overnight successes are rare, especially in the car world, but I think the Ford Explorer qualifies. The Explorer’s predecessor, the Bronco II, sold pretty well, but its appeal was limited by the fact that it only had two doors. The four-door version of the Explorer sold like hotcakes from day one, but for those who missed the old Bronco II, Ford also offered a two-door Explorer, called the Explorer Sport.

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Regardless of door count, Ford only offered the Explorer with one engine: a 4.0-liter version of the Cologne V6. A five-speed manual was standard, but rare; you see more two-door Explorers with manuals than four-doors, but still not many. Most Explorers were also four-wheel-drive, but not this one. I wasn’t sure at first, until I saw the dashboard: it’s missing the push-button controls for the transfer case above the radio.

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The seller says this car only has 70,000 miles on it, but if so, it was a hard 70,000. There’s a lot of wear on the armrest and steering wheel, and the driver’s seat looks pretty mashed-down. It’s also missing the pull handle on the passenger door, and that’s just what I can see in this one photo. It’s not in bad shape; it just doesn’t look as low-mileage as they claim. I’d run a Carfax report on this one if I were you.

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Outside, it looks pretty good at first glance, but there’s a little wrinkle below the left taillight, and the paint is pretty faded. But there’s no rust on it, at least.

I’m not sure having a manual transmission improves the driving experience of either of these, but it definitely improves their durability. GM’s TH700R4 automatic is more durable than Ford’s 4R55E, but you can expect to rebuild either one at least once during the life of a vehicle. The manual gearboxes in these should outlast the rest of the trucks with nothing more than an occasional fluid change and maybe a new clutch. As long as you’re willing to shift gears for yourself, you should be able to keep doing so indefinitely. Which one would you pick?

 

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Edrummer106
Edrummer106
2 hours ago

Aside from the other 250,000 miles, that Explorer only has 70,000 miles.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Edrummer106
Rebadged Asüna Sunrunner
Rebadged Asüna Sunrunner
2 hours ago

Van beats SUV on principle, right? Especially a RWD SUV? Especially when under half the price?

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
2 hours ago

Even before seeing the price, I went Safari as I think it wins the rarity title. I suspect a manual Explorer, especially a 2-door, will be easier to come across again than a manual van.

Rockchops
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Rockchops
2 hours ago

If these were both 2k, I’d go for the explorer. But it’s not worth the extra 3 grand over the van. The Astro is decent enough, and the 4.3 is a fine engine. Not crazy about the hardwood floor, but I guess it works. I thought they actually put a piece of siding from the house in the background in the van…some interesting choices there. At the end of the day you have a perfectly usable van that holds a 4×8 drywall or plywood (which the explorer can’t).

Tekamul
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Tekamul
2 hours ago

I like that oddball Safari. Such a weirdo, probably a hidden basket case, but for $2k, roll the dice! It’s a funky little package that would love some free form paint down the side.

Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
2 hours ago

I’m taking the van, these things are tougher than nails. I knew they were “available” in manual, but had never seen any proof. I want it just for that.

Phil
Phil
2 hours ago

The price differential is big here, I’m going with the van and roll until it rusts out.

Five grand is too much for the sun-blasted 2WD Explorer, but two thousand dollars is a good price for anything that runs well anymore and the hardwood decking sweetens the pot. Astro’s got more wood than a Bentley. That’s a deal.

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Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
2 hours ago

I really dig the Safari, and wanted to vote for it. Especially with the price difference. That narrow footwell with 3 pedals in it though, that’s not going to work for my 6E wide feet. I don’t need a van that I have to take my shoes off to drive. For that reason alone, it’s the Explorer for me.

IanGTCS
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IanGTCS
2 hours ago

I’ve always had an odd love for the Astro/Safari. At least you can use it as a cargo van. Just don’t crash them, that footage is scary for a family vehicle.

"Redneck" Mark
"Redneck" Mark
2 hours ago

On one hand that Explorer looks so disgusting that I’d rather not take a test drive. On the other hand a 40 year old van will definitely be needing some work, at least eventually, and every bolt underneath is probably seized since it’s from Michigan.

Cyko9
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Cyko9
2 hours ago

The rust on the GMC bugs me, but something about that Explorer seems off. It’s pretty beat for that price.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
2 hours ago

Both are RWD fun on the cheap, I’m going with the Explorer, drop spindles up front, lowering blocks in the rear, Bilstein adjustable shocks, grippy tired, and a supercharger strapped to that V6 would make a fun race truck. It already even has appropriate wheels for such endeavors. Interior shape is fine, as I’d gut the thing anyways.

Inversely, all this could be done to the Astro as well, and would be even more hilarious to both pilot and witness, but I expect the Explorer will fill this role better.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
2 hours ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

I am curious, though, as what I’ve read is that the first gen is a Twin I-beam truck. That’s like having swing axles in the front. How’s that supposed to work?

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
2 hours ago
Reply to  James McHenry
James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 hour ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

Saleen also figured out how to make it work well enough for SCCA truck racing, so maybe it’s not as bad as I think. I’d personally prep the explorer for sportsman short course, though, as a lot of people like the TIB/TTB for off-road racing. Easy to get long travel out of it.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 hour ago
Reply to  James McHenry

Based on what is available nearby road course racing is my most reasonable option. I’ve got a historic medium course track an hour away, and lots of SCCA/ AutoX within a half hour drive.

The reality is I had neither the time nor money for any of this, so it’s all just daydreaming.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 hour ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

I mean, that’s the whole point of this. It’s similar to bench racing: “what’s more worth it to me and my sensibilities”. For me, the Midwest SC offroad stuff is a state up in Wisconsin, and there’s also plenty of monster truck shows needing Tuff Trucks, but also I just like vans compared to SUVs and I’m not afraid of rust, so I went that direction instead. The Van I’d either use as-is, or take the seats and wood out and use it to haul stuff.

Last edited 1 hour ago by James McHenry
Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
2 hours ago

Today, I’m taking the … oh crap! I forgot my internet wallet. Darn, no shitbox for me.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
2 hours ago

I like that someone cared enough to put wood paneling in that Safari. It doesn’t look like anyone cared about that Explorer.

Someone should start a Rare Manual Museum.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
2 hours ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

I like this idea.

SlowCarFast
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SlowCarFast
2 hours ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

The front door would have a shifter. 1st gear gets you inside, reverse gets you out.

The_Daft
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The_Daft
2 hours ago

Explorer and then figure out how to throw some boost at it and have a street truck

Max Headbolts
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TK-421
TK-421
2 hours ago

“You’re the fattest thing I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been on Safari.” -CM Burns
Yeah, I’m going on Safari today, definitely seems to be in better shape, even without AC.

Froomg
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Froomg
2 hours ago

I picked the Safari because the manual just seems more unusualler in there. Plus it’s way cheaper.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
2 hours ago

Stick shift 4.3 Astro van owned by someone slightly eccentric that is slightly rusty, vs somewhat shady Exploder with potential mileage discrepancy.

Ya. Van.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
2 hours ago

I voted for the Astro, even though I think the Explorer is a better vehicle.

But not THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS better.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 hours ago

I don’t think the Astro was offered with the panel-side rear as a passenger van.

I suspect this started as a cargo variant and had the seats added. It wouldn’t have taken much, a quick visit to any junkyard in the last 40 years would be able to snag some rear benches. Bets are the cargo meant I had everything bolt-in

Pneumatic Tool
Pneumatic Tool
3 hours ago

A RWD SUV is fairly useless in the snowbelt, so I’ll go with the van. I realize that the Safari is RWD as well, but it offers more actual utility (and better towing capacity with the 4.3). I think that the 2k you’d save could be put into sorting the AC and whatever else is wrong with it, and you’d still have money to spare.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pneumatic Tool

Some decent Bridgestone Blizzaks to it, and you’ll do just fine for day-to-day. I did it for years with a pickup (with far less weight over the rear axle).

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
2 hours ago
Reply to  Pneumatic Tool

Disagree. It’s PERFECT for the snow belt. Winter tires are amazing. And when the coefficient of friction drops, the steer-with-throttle game starts.

Dennis Ames
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Dennis Ames
3 hours ago

Give me the Texas rust free manual

Dogpatch
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Dogpatch
3 hours ago

She’s gonna love me in my Chevy van and that’s all right with me

ImissmyoldScout
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ImissmyoldScout
3 hours ago

Explore the roads for me today. Brother had a Bronco II with the five speed in it. I imagine the Explorer would handle a little better, and the 4 liter is a small upgrade over the (2.8, 2.9, I can never remember) that was in the Bronco II. Air up those Firestones!

Last edited 3 hours ago by ImissmyoldScout
I’m trying
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I’m trying
3 hours ago

I’m a sucker for fords. So the explorer gets my vote. I probably would have considered the safari because of some fun highschool memories but Michigan rust terrifies me.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
2 hours ago
Reply to  I’m trying

I hear ya, I’ve had a few Fords myself…

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