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Which Rear-Engined Rarity Is Your Pick? 1959 Fiat 600 vs 1973 VW Thing

Sbsd 3 20 2026

Happy Friday! Today, instead of the typical Friday runoff, we’re going to look at a new pair of cars, because the week’s contenders just don’t really go together, and I don’t feel like looking back.

We really should look back as far as yesterday, however, just to declare a winner. We looked at two Nissan Sentras that were both set up as race cars, and most of you didn’t like either one of them, it seems. Comment and vote totals were both low, which is a pretty good indication that excitement was low as well.

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The final vote was really close, with the ’82 hatchback with some history behind it taking a narrow win. I think that’s the way I’d go as well, assuming I could title and register it for the street. I don’t really have much interest in race cars either, but that Sentra looks surprisingly cool in its stickers and race numbers. And big round driving lights look good on just about any car.

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Earlier in the week, you all legitimately surprised me. I showed you a reasonably cheap, reasonably solid, running and driving VW Type 3 Squareback, and it lost. Granted, it lost to a Saab, a marque which remains undefeated, but still, I was surprised. My plan was to pit it against the rest of the week’s losing cars in a second-chance runoff, but I just don’t feel like writing about the same cars over again. So I’ll give you air-cooled VW enthusiasts something new to vote for, and I’ve got an adorable little Italian jellybean for everyone else. Let’s check them out.

1959 Fiat 600 – $5,100

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 767 cubic centimeter OHV inline 4, four-speed manual, RWD

Location: Yorba Linda, CA

Odometer reading: 14,000 miles

Operational status: Not running, but engine turns over by hand

It’s funny just how insulated car markets around the world are, or were, before the modern era. Nearly five million Fiat 600s rolled out of various factories around the world over the course of three decades, and I think I’ve seen maybe two in person. But I bet the same holds true for the average Italian enthusiast and the Chevy Impala. I’m sure there are a few Impalas floating around Italy, but they have to be as rare and special a sight as this little Fiat is in the US.

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Like so many other 1950s European small cars, Renaults and Volkswagens among them, the Fiat 600 is rear-engined and rear-wheel-drive. The standard engine displaces 633 cc, but if I’m understanding right, this one has a larger 767 cc engine from a later 600D. It doesn’t run at the moment, but it does turn freely, so it should be able to be revived. One worrying thing is that there is no cap on the radiator; hopefully it isn’t too corroded inside. The seller seems to know a lot about these cars, and has a stockpile of parts, so they should be able to provide some help getting it going again.

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Open this 600’s rear-hinged “suicide door,” and you’re faced with an interior badly in need of restoration. The seats originally had some really cool plaid fabric, but it’s completely worn out. The door panels are missing, as is the lower cushion for the rear seat. I would imagine the soft top needs replacing, too. It can all be fixed up, but you’ve got your work cut out for you if you want to properly restore it. You could also install some other seats, and make your own door cards, of course.

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The body is in good shape, though. It looks like it’s about as rust-free as an old Fiat gets. The taillight lenses are missing, but I would imagine you can get them from somewhere. There are some other bits of trim missing as well, but it won’t stop you from having fun with the car once you get it running.

1973 Volkswagen Thing – $7,200

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 1.6-liter OHV flat 4, four-speed manual, RWD

Location: Florence, AZ

Odometer reading: Looks like 96,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Looking at a typical Jeep Wrangler in a parking lot today, with its colorful paint and its row of rubber duckies on the dashboard, you’d never know its roots were a strictly untilitarian, no-nonsense miliraty vehicle. Likewise, you’d never know from looking at this car that it started out as a slapped-together stopgap military vehicle for the West German army. In most of the world, it was known as the Type 181, but for two glorious years, it was sold in the US as the Thing.

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Image: Craigslist seller

Mechanically, the Type 181 is more or less a Beetle. It uses the same flat-four engine, and the same torsion bar suspension. I honestly don’t know these engines well enough to tell exactly what this one is, or how much of it is stock, but I’m sure someone will provide all the details in the comments. What I can tell you is that the seller says it runs and drives fine, and that the four-speed transmission shifts smoothly. That’s a pretty good start.

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The interior of a Thing makes a modern Jeep look like a Rolls-Royce: steel door panels and dash, vinyl seats, and rubber floor mats. There’s no heater, no instrumentation apart from a speedometer with a fuel gauge in it, and no sound deadening. Luckily this one has a whole rear deck full of speakers to provide a soundtrack besides the VW flat-four burble. Seriously, do you actually need four 6x9s and a couple of tweeters for a car this size? Probably not, but it’s got ’em.

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Outside, it’s mostly original, and pretty rough. It has a little rust, and a few mismatched body panels. The seller also has a pair of orange front fenders in good condition that go along with it, which is good, because the fenders on it are bad. There is some good news: it has spectacular aftermarket wheels on it with new tires, and the top is fairly new too.

Good condition examples of either of these cars go for big money. And scruffy examples like these don’t come up very often. Either one of these is a good opportunity for the right person – probably not to restore, but to experience. A faded, rusty example of a car you’ve always wanted is still an opportunity to own one. Why let the Pebble Beach crowd have all the fun?

 

 

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Tekamul
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Tekamul
2 hours ago

That Fiat is so cute, but what a heap on the inside. The Thing is ugly as hell on the outside, but is at least immediately useable.
Gotta go Thing

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
2 hours ago

This was a hard choice, but I think it comes down to the one that runs and drives. Plus, I’d rather a 500 over a 600 if I’m getting a vintage Fiat.

That VW Thing would be fun, and rust holes matter less. It’s not like you’re trying to keep the weather out.

Y2Keith
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Y2Keith
2 hours ago

The Fiat would make a fun project. For someone who’s looking for a project, any project.

My college roommate had a VW Thing, so I’ve experienced one, at least as a passenger. I wouldn’t mind owning one, but I’m not sure it’s this one. I’m not a fan of the wheels and the stance, but I suppose they give it a bit more character. Not that a Thing needs any more character. Provided the rust is only skin deep (and I’m not convinced it is), it’s something you could drive and enjoy as is while you burnish your reputation as your neighborhood’s delightful weirdo.

Thing gets my Internet bucks today.

FloridaNative
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FloridaNative
2 hours ago

This is an easy one… I’ll take the Type 3 from Tuesday!

Burt Curry
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Burt Curry
2 hours ago

I guess the Fiat would be more work to bring back, but you’d have something that is better when done. Putting work and money into the Thing still just leaves you with a glorified golf cart that’s not much fun to drive.

Isis
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Isis
2 hours ago

I like the Fiat, but it’s just got too far to go. The Thing looks like a driver already, even if the sheet metal is a little beat up.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
2 hours ago

Definitely voted for the Thing. It has hard to find a running but ugly one like this. Most I see are either much nicer (but $15-$25k) or basket cases that are still $5k. I like my old cars to be 20 footers – this car is a little worse than I prefer, but it is close enough. I want it and would have no problem paying $7200 for it.

The Fiat is cool, though.

Last edited 2 hours ago by The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
2 hours ago

Easy pick today – the Thing at least runs and has a functional interior/exterior (including top) to enjoy while you tinker with it, and getting parts is going to be much easier. Plus the wear/tear on it comes together in a way that says “patina” and is pretty cool.

The Fiat will be a long nightmare of scouring ads, swap meets, and forums looking for the parts needed just to get it running, and then a continued headache trying to make it look like anything other than a beat down old car.

Rockchops
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Rockchops
2 hours ago

I’ll take the Fiat. I love VW Things, and I like the wheels and rakish look of this one but someone decided to spend all their time and money on a soundsystem instead of tackling the rust which looks pretty bad. Even in the engine bay it looks like a couple of those welds are busted out even if they’re wirebrushed or painted over. I’d bet the floorpans are totally rotted out.

Jim Zavist
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Jim Zavist
2 hours ago

I’m not spending $5K on yard art . . .

SAABstory
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SAABstory
2 hours ago

Voted VW, but hate the wheels and stance. Both cars are overpriced or too rich for my blood, as my Grandpa used to say.

As always the answer is Saab. For that money you could get a much better Saab.

Ishkabibbel
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Ishkabibbel
2 hours ago

I’ve always had a thing for . . . Things.

That price is absurd though.

AircooleDrew
AircooleDrew
2 hours ago

Do I even need to say how I voted? I’d take that Thang all day long! Love the stance and patina.

TK-421
TK-421
2 hours ago

Ugh. At least the Thing runs and drives, but if the Fiat was moving under its own power that would be my choice.

But these prices? I’m driving yesterday’s winner.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
2 hours ago

The Thing seems to have a 009 distributor, Pertronix coil, and a 2-barrel, so it wouldn’t surprise me if that at least had a 110 cam and/or was a 1776. So it probably scoots.

Then there’s the Fiat. At first I’m thrilled because it could tuck into the spare parking spot on the drive with ease. Also it looks a bit like Tony. Do you know about Tony? The Australian-owned 126p that’s been restored just enough to be An Car? This 600 reminds me of that.

The problem with the Thing is I already have a Super Beetle. But then again, I already have a Super Beetle so I know what I’m getting into. The non-running Fiat fits in my space better and I find more endearing, but she’s gotta live outside, and that top is not up to it. Also there’s no Mid America Motorworks for Fiats.

…in cases like this I need to go with my heart. Maybe the FR-S can live outside until I get a carport made. Time to get me a Toni. 600 today.

Last edited 2 hours ago by James McHenry
PBL
PBL
16 minutes ago
Reply to  James McHenry

Be careful. You start with one Toni and then it becomes Tony! Toni! Toné! in your driveway.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
10 minutes ago
Reply to  PBL

In order, That’d probably be YouTube Famous 126p, this 600, and then I dunno like an Abarth 595 or something.

IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
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IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
2 hours ago

I feel like both of these sellers thought “Old+Uncommon=Cha-ching!” without taking the current condition of the vehicles into their price equation. The Fiat is clapped out but looks more original, which makes restoring it a little easier compared to having to undo some of the crap that has been done to the VW.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
2 hours ago

I voted the fiat just because the thing is showing way to much rust. If it is showing that much on the rockers and doors I would hate to see the under side of that thing. If the thing was cleaner I would have voted for it no one likes a dirty thing.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
3 hours ago

I do have a tried named Tony, but he’s pretty useless with cars. Still went for the Fiat today, it’s the nicer example of these two cars IMO.

The project would be focused on getting it running while I start backordering all the missing parts from Italy, might know some people there that can help me get stuff 🙂

Might even take a shot at painting it, it’s small enough for a home built spray booth built out of a popup tent.

I can probably re-upholster the seats myself, and sourcing new door cards won’t be fast, but achievable.

Getting it running will just take a lot of fiddling with the ignition and carb, but we can do that at out leisure.

Right around the time I was tooling around in my Samurai a local used car dealer had an orange Thing for sale, it sat on their lot for years, so I’m pretty sure that’s all I need to know about the ownership experience.

Mike F.
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Mike F.
3 hours ago

I’m taking the Thing and the only thing I’d change would be putting on those orange replacement fenders. It would make a hell of an eyesore with the peeling yellow all over except for the orange hood and fenders. And I could not only inflict that on those around me, I could use those speakers to inflict my horrible taste in music on them as well! I’ll be the hit of the park come summertime!

SlowCarFast
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SlowCarFast
3 hours ago

I strongly prefer the Fiat, but it needs a lot of work.
This Thing makes me cringe.

Grayvee280
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Grayvee280
3 hours ago

You are going to be spending a lot of time working on both of these if driving them is the goal. The 181 has some unfortunate suspension choices (in my opinion), but I feel like way more aftermarket support to find parts,

…..and you will need parts
-type 2 owner

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
3 hours ago
Reply to  Grayvee280

At the very least, you’ll get a 1600 you can hook to a used Genset for when…stuff happens.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
3 hours ago

Thing for me! I had one as a project that I never finished, and I’d like to try again. Then I could go around and ask people if they want to see my Thing.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
3 hours ago

Voted for the Thing but I actually hate the wheels and the stance.

I mean, the wheels are fine, but on something else.

Extreme lowering is not really my thing, and the common ways to achieve it renders the car nearly un-driveable. This is a kubel filled to the brim with bad decisions.

Oh, and $7200 is too much money. Though the seller notes he’ll throw in new fenders worth about $1K. ($1K for aircooled VW sheetmetal! That used to be TWO WHOLE CARS).

It’s the first time I’ve made a begrudging vote, though. That Fiat is a pile. The Thing looks like it’s not suffering from the rust cancer I’d expect, and it appears mostly honest (except for the bad decisions). Its seats look decent, too.

But I bet it rattles, and even if it doesn’t, it’s a convertible (not my thing) and has very little sound deadening material (i.e. none). And it gets worse – the shot of all the speakers is hilariously terrible.

So my tinnitus is already yelling at me.

Would it be a good flip? Do people like VW Things? They got my attention when I was a kid, but they’re not the VWs I pined for (that’d be a Type 3 Ghia at the top of the list…)

Last edited 2 hours ago by Dan Roth
Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
3 hours ago

Someone, who I suspect has a whole other set of priorities than me, messed too much with the Type 181, with wrong seats (maybe only covers but looks like something from a motor boat), no bumpers (?), wrong air filter, wrong rims (yes I know they’re expensive), wrong tyres, wrong suspension, and look at the wiring: Jeez 🙁

So the Fiat/Zastava project for me, thanks. I guess the sunroof and old type doors makes it worth the 5K?

Last edited 2 hours ago by Jakob K's Garage
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That guy
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