Part of the charm of buying a cheap posh car is exuding style of a different era. That old luxury car may still be properly nice, but it also looks properly old. However, every so often, the stars line up and design studios find themselves in evolutionary phases, and a combination of crushing depreciation and relatively subtle styling tweaks result in the opportunity to scoop up a heavily depreciated luxury car that, to non-car people, looks like you just spent six figures. Something like a decade-old Mercedes-Benz S-Class.
Granted, to most people who don’t really know luxury cars, depreciated ones still look and feel nice, but this is on another level. Put a W222 S-Class and its W223 successor next to each other and the differences are obvious, but only if you have a somewhat keen eye. Bruno Sacco’s concept of vertical affinity lives on, it seems.
In many eyes, the old S-Class simply doesn’t look old. Maybe a few years old at most, but nowhere near going on a decade. However, while a new S-Class will run you more than $117,000 for the most affordable one, early examples of the previous generation can be had for far less. Figure about 17 percent of that.
What Are We Looking At?
Flashback to 2013. Mercedes-Benz was a brand looking for an X-factor. It had the spectacular SLS AMG, it had wickedly powerful AMG V8s, but outside of special models, its cars needed a little more sparkle. The 2007 S-Class was a step in the right direction, but with BMW out of its peak Bangle phase and Audi making gorgeous machines, Mercedes needed to swing big. Thankfully, the 2014 model year was arriving, and with it, a major model change for the S-Class.
The W222 S-Class took what was great about its predecessor and added greatness. Huge presence, more wood, more leather, more metal, sleeker tech integration, and a new styling language seen earlier on the CLA that wouldn’t just maintain the S-Class’ desirability as king of the sedans for another generation, it would simply be evolved for the following generation of S-Class. The luxury aboard? Outrageous for the time. Six different programs in the optional massage seats, an integrated perfume dispenser, wiper blades with individual integrated washer nozzles, cameras tied to the suspension to read the road ahead, and in top spec, more than 100 electric motors working various functions.
We’re talking about a true cornucopia of opulence that could really move out when haste was to be made. In Car And Driver instrumented testing, the S550 ran from zero-to-60 mph in 4.9 seconds, sailed through the quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 108 mph, and could hit 132 mph while maintaining a calm, effortless demeanor. Perfect for plutocrats of the post-recession era, and luxury that’s now depreciated to the point of temptation.
How Much Are We Talking?
Nothing depreciates like a big luxury sedan, and the bigger they are, the harder they fall. For context, Hyundai’s cheapest car in America, the Venue subcompact crossover, starts at $21,395 including freight. While you probably aren’t finding an AMG W222 S-Class or a facelifted model for that sort of money, you can absolutely buy an S550, such as this 2015 model. It recently hammered on Cars & Bids for $18,450, and on the face of things it seems fantastic. We’re talking a 92,100-mile Sport package car with a clean Carfax, massaging front seats, adaptive cruise control, and a selection of other desirable options.
Oh, and here’s another one, albeit with more mileage on the clock. This 2015 S550 4Matic hammered on Cars & Bids back in May for just $16,500. Sure, it might’ve had a whopping 142,700 miles on the clock, and it may have two minor hits on its Carfax, but it was inspected by Lemon Squad, and other than a slightly loose fender liner and the expected visual wear and tear, the only thing wrong with it was a non-functional emergency beacon system, likely due to 3G network sunsetting. It’s a perfectly fine car optioned up to $123,000 when new, now selling for Hyundai Venue money. Madness.
Don’t want to pay auction fees? No worries, the normal used market seems to track fairly well with what we’re seeing at auctions. Just look at this 2014 S550, up for sale in Virginia for $19,995. Sure, it might not have the Sport package, and it might have a hit on its Carfax, but not only is it an Edition 1 launch model with many toys like the heated armrests, massaging front seats, rear window sun blinds, adaptive cruise control, and heated and ventilated rear seats, it has just 89,568 miles on the clock.
What Could Possibly Go Wrong On A W222 S-Class?
While the W222 S-Class seems to be more reliable that previous S-Classes, part of that may simply be recency. Most examples seem to be fairly robust, but a handful have suffered expensive problems, starting with oil in the wiring harness. I wish I was making this up. Basically, oil can get past the seals on the camshaft sensors, wick its way down the engine wiring harness, and wreak all sorts of havoc. Yeah, this’ll be a five-figure bill all day if it happens to you, and how deep into five figures really depends on how far the oil’s traveled.
Then there are the rare but numerous failure modes of the M278 4.7-liter turbocharged V8 found in 2014 to 2017 S550 models. It could suffer valve guide failure, or develop bore scoring, or suffer from timing chain stretch, or leak oil from the timing cover, or develop a leak from the turbo cooling hoses. Not all of these issues are terminal, and not all of these issues are common, but some are terminal and while it probably won’t happen to you, it still might.
Oh, and we need to mention headlight issues, because they can get pricey. The pre-facelift headlights are known to suffer from condensation issues, and replacement isn’t cheap — figure between $2,700 and $2,900 per assembly, depending on which options the car has. Otherwise, keep in mind these cars have an appetite for engine mounts and transmission mounts, and a voracious one for brakes. A single front discs lists for $261.99 on FCP Euro, so brake jobs on these flagships aren’t cheap. In addition, don’t discount the possibility that annoying nickel-and-dime stuff can go wrong. These are complicated cars, six-figure flagships when new.
Should You Buy A W222 S-Class For Hyundai Venue Money?
In most cases, absolutely not. Look, this was a six-figure flagship when it was new, it was pushing the envelope when it came to technology, and when these cars fall, they can fall hard. Sure, they might not rot like the W220 S-Class of the new Millennium, but they’ll still be pricey to keep on the road
However, if you have several grand lying around for various potential needs, are okay with big maintenance bills, and want big-bucks luxury without a big-bucks car payment, a W222 S-Class might be exactly what you need. Ballin’ ain’t cheap, but considering most people on the street will think a ten-year-old S-Class is a brand new one, this is about as cheap as it gets, and as a bonus, you end up with a lovely car.
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“more than 100 electric motors working various functions”
That sentence scares the heck out of me.
I don’t know, electricity seems easier to fix than that vacuum operated everything on earlier MBs.
Well sure, when you put it like that…
Well the vacuum was not as insane as the hydraulic everything on the 600s, so there’s that.
But still, having a leak in the door preventing the engine from shutting off, or the brakes from working is a little crazy.
Just like a boat, your happiest days of owning one of these cars will be the day you buy it and the day you sell it.
This title is very wrong. Are there no title-checkers at The Autopian ?!?
The title should be “You can buy any out of extended warranty German car that has any combination of the letters B, W or M in its name for the price of a subscribtion that costs a full Hyundai Venue, payable every time an alert goes on the dash“.
There, I fixed that for you
No B, M, or W in “Audi” thank Christ! Or is it silent, like a fiscal assasin?
Smart money goes for the same era E550. Late E550s (as in right before the 4.7L) had the oily wiring harness issue resolved in a port injected NA V8. Can’t get much more stone age proven tech reliable than that! The rest is reliable enough to be used as taxis the world over in stripper V6 guise. You can get the air suspension, but without all the crazy camera and electric motor stuff to go wrong. You can also get the messaging seats, but with just one “program” and much less to go wrong. Additionally, you get to fly under the radar a bit more. Buy-in is a lot less, because it doesn’t have the cachet an S-Class. Turn your own wrenches and do the usual part shopping, and it’s not even that expensive to own.
Messaging seats are great for butt dialing.
Sure seems like a comparable A8/S8 is a more reliable car. Consumables are still expensive but you won’t be dealing with oily wiring.
Yeah, because VW products are definitely known for quality engineering and reliability. xD
Oh good I was waiting for someone who has definitely owned a D4 A8 to show up and share their experience.
Never ever again. Not even if they would pay me to take it. No. Hard fucking no! Overcomplicated garbage. (Ranting away to the sunset…)
I have two words to say to you: massage seats!
I’ll have to reply with more words: Audi, Cadillac, Ford, Genesis, Hyundai, Kia, LR, Lexus, Lincoln, VW, Volvo, even Saab when they were still around.
Mercs are like BMW, ok with a warranty, but when the warranty is done everyone is dumping them for a reason.
I wouldn’t want to have the all the costs and delays the second anything breaks.
I would seriously rather have a V6 Charger or 300 as a large sedan than this thing.
I generally do not want people on the street to think I’m as high income as I am, which is still not enough to stomach the maintenance on a ~100,000 mile late model S class.
For a large sedan I’ll stick to the 2023 Silverado Crew Cab I bought for $38,000 new. Power locks, power windows, AC, CarPlay, way more loaded than the family car growing up. Plus it tows a boat way better than a big body Benz.
And at least it makes me look like something reputable like a landscaper instead of a sales associate at a cell phone store trying to flex with their “Mercedes.”
I read the title and went: WTF is a Hyundai Venue?
You’ve probably seen dozens, but they’re pretty darn forgettable.
Same here. I figured it was from one of the international writers. Looked it up, and they sell it here (US)… Can’t say I’ve seen one, but as was said above me, looks pretty forgettable. And sad and dumpy…
They’re a GTA background car. Abundant, forgettable, and one of them will definitely force you to start the mission over by getting in your way.
Mercedes-Benz S Class sedan = Beverly Hills Uber Black.
Speedwalked past the first 2/3 of the article, straight to “What could go wrong.” You barely scratched the surface. (*cough* camera-controlled active suspension *cough*).
Buying a W222 today is like buying a piñata full of Ebola. And I say this as a MB fan.
Nice simile. At least it’s a better-looking piñata than the W220.
1) No one needs an S-Class Mercedes. Buying one when you cannot pay cash for
one is a good way to stay poor.
2) Mercedes today is a badge without substance ; the quality inherent in
a Mercedes in the 1980s or earlier is no longer there. The Mercedes of today is an
expensive car that is as disposable as the rest of the cars in this throwaway
world.
3) As several commenters have pointed out, you might buy the car for the price of a
new Hyundai, but you WILL be paying MERCEDES S-Class costs for repair and
maintenance. The best way to describe the mindset that results in this scenario
requires using words you don’t want me to use.
4) If this website is ever going to convince me to pay for a subscription, it needs to
quit running “articles” like this one or that piece by Torchinsky which elaborated on
a device meant to use poisonous exhaust gas to kill innocent creatures. You’d think
Torchinsky would know better than this considering he is a Jew.
5) In terms of articles which have informational value, Jalopnik is kicking
Autopian’s ass.
6) If you want Autopian to fail, keep publishing stuff like this.
Counterpoint: Its fun to dream and see what silly cars you could buy if you decided not to be responsible. But pointing out what goes wrong and what it costs should snap anyone back to reality.
Jalopnik will never kick the Autopian’s ass at anything until it figures out how to not cram an ad in every square inch of the page, plus pop-ups. Oh and gets a decent comment system.
If you’re clever enough to run ad blockers, you never see those ads.
To me, the meta-message of this article is not, “you should go buy this depreciated Mercedes,” but rather, “look how this car has aged.” Re-read the first 5 words of the article. I think that’s relevant content for a car site, but I do think it’s a little light on the research. If anyone reaches the conclusion they should buy a W222, hopeful the comments section will disabuse them of that idea.
As for Torch’s article, if it offends YOU as a Jew (no idea whether you are), fair to say that. But don’t project your morality on the author, particularly if you are not Jewish. As a Jew myself, I was no more offended by this than the mention any of the dozen gassing methods for dealing with pests, found at your local hardware store.
Yeah, Jew here. Your point #4 is absolutely, unequivocally ludicrous. I almost did a spit take when I read it.
6. Wrong. Torch- keep doing these articles. They are a blast.
Love,
A paying member.
I might have misread, but Torch did not like or endorse said device.
He commented on liking the other one, which was a vacuum cleaner attachment.
I’m Jewish adjacent•, my children are Jewish, I could get an Israeli passport to if I wanted, and I’m the one that made the Entlausungswagen comment, and would never kill any voles or gophers.
I also thought that Jason’s article was great. I like all of Jason’s articles. I kind of had him pegged for more society for ethical culture for some reason.
These “you can buy a for the price of a new articles are more fun than just a has depreciated a lot, what could go wrong? title.
I’d like a series of nice cheap old cars to drive through the fall of western civilization that aren’t a Lexus LS while we are on that subject.
One mor thing the other site seems to get kind of shouty in the comments, which are sort of broken anyway. Here it’s more of a friendly disagreement sort of thing. In real life I have friends who range from communists to monarchists and we get along fine.
*Too complicated to explain here
You’re an idiot. It’s all good reading, fun and has humor. The Autopian is the best site on the net. I didn’t mind reading this or the other articles because it’s enjoyable. If you don’t enjoy it, read other articles and shut the hell up about the ones you don’t like. Keep it to yourself and get a life
“If you don’t enjoy it, read other articles and shut the hell up about the ones you don’t like”
Hard disagree.
Negative feedback is just as important as positive feedback. If an opinion is genuinely offensive to you or you know it to be wrong then say so. Just state your counterpoint politely, and with whatever you have to support your argument.
Ok yeah, that is a good point. I admit I do get worked up over certain things and this time it ended up being harsh and I don’t like that. Especially on this site which I love and is the best on the net. I’ll keep that in mind and appreciate it. Thank you!
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays/etc etc etc oh yeah, also Happy Festivus!
And happy Festivus to you as well 🙂
The airing of grievances has concluded, now let the feats of strength commence!
The Venue will still be running in 2 years.
…but for who?
You or the car thief?
Unlike an actual venue these days, at least for music.
Venue is an absolutely dumb name.
In popular usage a Venue is a place for meetings, events and performances. It’s derived from the Latin for “come” (venire). You might drive a car to a Venue, but unless you are performing weddings in the back seat the name is weird.
Maybe temporary marriages of propinquity might take place in the back seat.
Don’t you need a sea captain for that?
Call on the Boulevard Yachtsman.
I’d just assume any repair on this car is a five figure bill.
I bought a 2020 model for my pops, it’s amazing. If you’re going to get a W222, do yourself a flavor and make sure you get an 18 or newer, I had a 17 A217 S550 Convertible and while it was incredible it had the distinct issues of being “old” in the tech. In 18 they were refreshed and got carplay and better steering wheels and all the things to modernize the car enough to be a great ride for the next 10 years.
Rather have a W126 coupe. Probably more money for a good one, though. Would still rather have the W126.
A lot of parts for the W126 are widely available and have multiple aftermarket options. On my 560SEL, what I learned was that the parts unique to the long wheelbase (the self leveling components) and the parts unique to the 5.5l V8 are a lot less plentiful and in a lot of cases the only replacement option is NOS from Mercedes for big money. The coupe, like the long wheelbase, is more rare so I’d assume that unique parts for that are also pricey. So a W126 coupe will be less than this, and parts will be much cheaper, but you’re obviously going to need to do much more on a 20+ year older car.
I’m not sure if it’s NOS, or if they re-run production batches.
I believe they had an announcement about 20ish years ago that they are able and will service any Benz ever made, from the very first one, at some special centers of theirs.
Money being a detail here of course. If memory serves the central pneumatic valve for the 600 Grosser (whch had pneumatic power windows and locks, as electrica was too loud or whatever) is still available at MB, for $17k-ish.
Karl Middelhauve does these for only $12k, was it. Or something like that. Or so the story goes.
You mean a C126. Sorry, I’ll see myself out.
In the words of someone wise “if you couldn’t afford it new, you sure can’t afford it used”.
This is a over $100k Merc. As you pointed out, the parts prices, even if you do the work yourself, is still going to be expensive. Because it’s an S Class, why wouldn’t it be?
Around me, these cars usually end up with the people who want to look rich. They’ll drive it until it’s first major failure, then it spends the rest of its life being a yard ornament until the city makes them do something with it.
Sometimes you can find ones that are coming from their first owner who bought it new, or the second that picked it up CPO off of the lease. There’s enough tech that they don’t feel outdated, and some people do keep them for longer periods because they just want a big comfy sedan and aren’t necessarily trying to keep up with the Joneses. Those are the ones that also come with all the dealer service records and are worth a little more up front. But yeah, don’t look at these as a $18k car. Look at it as a $40k car and $18-20k is the down payment.
Me? I’d rather get a beat W221 and roll the dice on whether I get 1 year out of it or 3 before it breaks something that costs more than the $4500 I paid for it.
I’ve rolled the dice on euro cars before(still am actually), and I completely agree with you, the initial purchase price is your down payment. You should have some sitting aside in savings if something breaks. Problem is that there is a number of people who really should be buying a Corolla, and end up in something like this and discover the pricey costs of maintaining the beast.
This: don’t look at these as a $18k car. Look at it as a $40k car and $18-20k is the down payment.
If you can find a low-mileage, obsessively dealer-serviced example owned by a millionaire widow in Boca, you MIGHT stand a chance of not losing your shirt on maintenance.
Nothing says “The Best or Nothing” quite like an oil soaked wiring harness, rattling timing chains and condensation filled headlights.
And the bore scoring. And you will especially enjoy your comfy seats while waiting for the tow truck to arrive.
The headlights part does indeed puzzle me. You’d think they have learnt to spec headlights after 100+ years.
They did. They learned how to make it last juuust long enough to make the second, third and fourth owners into lucrative customers at the parts counter.