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Analyst Questions Fisker’s Production Claims, Calling Them ‘Borderline Ludicrous’

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Someone skipped their decaf this morning and we got a brimming cup-full of highly caffeinated analyst smack talk, which is my favorite varietal of public criticism. What’s going on here? Fisker Inc., the electric startup founded by car designer and sometimes carmaker Henrik Fisker, told investors it would make 42,400 vehicles this year. Not everyone believed this. While we’re at it, we’ll also take a look at India’s expanding car market, Ford’s questionable sourcing, and pedestrian deaths. A lot of this news is a bummer, so let’s revel in glorious quote-getting while we can.

Fisker Stock Up On Order Expansion

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Thanks to SPAC deal, Fisker Inc. is listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol FSR, which gives us casual viewers a chance to see how the market treats an electric startup (most are private). The company’s stock managed to reach $28.50 in March of 2021, before crashing to earth and hovering around the $7-8 range for the about the last six months.

Skeptical investors pushed the price down to the mid $5 range in the last week, but the company’s latest financial release yesterday sent the stock back up to above $7. What did Fisker say? First, it stated that orders for its Ocean SUV jumped to 65,000 vehicles, up from 62,000 in October. Then the company reiterated its goal to build 42,400 vehicles in 2023.

Let’s check in with Garrett Nelson, who is an analyst at CFRA Research, a largely reputable organization that describes itself as “one of the world’s largest independent investment research firms”:

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Adam Sandler I Dont Believe That

Ok, maybe that’s Adam Sandler from the film “Billy Madison.”

Let’s get the actual quote, via this Reuters story on the Fisker news:

Garrett Nelson, an analyst at CFRA Research, said the target was “borderline ludicrous given the struggles of EV peers and Fisker’s production of 56 vehicles so far.”

LOL.

PearpatentI highlight all of this not because I necessarily agree with Nelson, but because it’s hilarious. The one advantage that Fisker has going for it, which is legitimate, is that it uses contract manufacturing. Fisker ain’t building a gigafactory, but instead it’s using Austrian company Manga Steyr to build Oceans. Later, Fisker is planning to use Foxconn’s new facility in Lordstown (where VW will also maybe build its Scout) to make the cute little Fisker Pear. Above is a patent sketch of the Pear.

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It’s also worth noting this quote from CEO Henrik Fisker, via Reuters:

The company had restricted production “on purpose,” he said, as it expects testing for homologation — the certification for roadworthiness — to be complete by March. That will be followed by regulatory approvals and deliveries.

Both the Fisker Ocean and Pear are attractive and nicely priced, with the former starting at a promised $37,499 and the latter projected to start below $30,000. The company also promises competitive EV ranges (think 250 miles for the small Pear and up to 350 miles for the Ocean).

If the startup can overcome the supplier issues everyone else is having and actually deliver half of what they promise this year that would be a real victory.

India’s Car Market Is Still Booming

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The world is still dealing with a car market that saw millions of cars pulled from production due to various shortages. These issues are starting to ease and that means an increase in product available for consumers. You know who is ready to buy those cars? India.

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Again, from a Reuters article on the rise:

India’s passenger vehicle sales are expected grow about 9%-10% in fiscal year 2024, roughly 20% above pre-pandemic peak levels, as strong demand and easing chip shortages prop-up the world’s fourth-largest car market, ratings agency Crisil said on Tuesday.

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Sharper focus by original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) on SUVs, including compact SUVs, fuelled by customer preference, “is driving growth, even as sales of sedans and entry level passenger cars remains sluggish,” Anuj Sethi, senior director at the agency said.

SUVs are expected to nearly double their share in overall domestic sales to roughly 55% in fiscal 2024 from about 28% in fiscal 2018, Sethi said.

The compact SUV boom is real, and India’s biggest automakers are ready, with Tata, Maruti Suzuki, and Hyundai all expanding their offerings. Check out the new Maruti Brezza above! It’s a mild hybrid with about 103 horsepower that gets about 40 MPG. Not bad.

Of course, there’s a larger question about the environmental impact of turning a massive country with a quickly growing population into the next big car market. This is, probably, net bad. It’s also fairly hypocritical to state that it’s net bad given I live in a country that built itself on cheap gasoline.

The good news, according to Bloomberg, is that there’s increased interest in small electric cars. The bad news is that India, the world’s third largest energy producer, still heavily relies on coal.

The F-150 Lightning Is Allegedly Built With Materials That Are Contributing To Polluting The Brazilian RainforestLightning

I keep seeing Ford F-150 Lightnings around town. I think I like them. The F-150 is the truck I think of when I think of a truck, and Ford managed to leapfrog most of its competition by beating Tesla, Ram, Chevy, and others to production of an EV version.

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About that production…

There’s a big Bloomberg investigation with a bunch of neat graphics here showing how the materials used to make the F-150 Lightning partially come from a refinery that’s harming the Brazilian rainforest and the people who live there. Not a good look. If you don’t have a Bloomberg login, The Detroit News has a pretty good wrap up here, which I’ll quote from.

The news agency reported Monday that aluminum used in the truck’s frames is connected to rust-colored bauxite that comes from a mine “that has long faced allegations of pollution and land appropriation” and an ore refinery that’s accused of making people sick.

A class-action lawsuit has been filed with 11,000 residents of neighborhoods near the Hydro Alunorte refinery that names owner Norsk Hydro ASA of Norway as the one responsible for polluting rivers and streams, according to Bloomberg. The suit says there’s toxic mud with elevated levels of aluminum and other heavy metals, and Alunorte’s actions have caused health problems including cancer and birth defects.

Not great. Ford has touted its use of aluminum to reduce weight in its trucks and that aluminum has to come from somewhere. Of course, much of our current EV production is dirty. Tesla is notorious for its many issues with the EPA.

With a new, progressive government in charge in Brazil, we’ll have to wait and see if more news like this suddenly starts coming to light.

Pedestrian Deaths Way Up: Report

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Loving cars means wrestling with some serious issues. There are the larger inefficiencies of building a society around cars. There’s the global environmental impact of greenhouse gas emissions and the local environmental impact of production (see above) and harmful particulate emissions.

More immediately, at least in this country, we keep running over bikers and pedestrians with our big, heavy cars and trucks. And it’s apparently getting worse. The nonpartisan Government’s Highway Safety Association (GHSA) has a report out today (you can read it here) showing just how bad it’s gotten recently. Here’s a highlight from their press release:

Drivers in the United States struck and killed 3,434 people in the first half of 2022 – up 5%, or 168 more deaths, from the same period the year before, according to a new analysis from the Governors Highway Safety Association (GHSA). This deeply troubling projection follows a 40-year high in pedestrian deaths in 2021 and continues a gruesome decade-long trend of more people dying while walking on U.S. roads.

This sucks. Why is this happening? Also from the GHSA:

Why are more people walking dying on U.S. roads? A combination of factors, including a surge in dangerous driving that began at the start of the pandemic and has not lessened; larger, heavier vehicles that are more likely to seriously injure or kill people on foot in the event of a crash; roads designed to prioritize fast-moving traffic over slower speeds that are safer for pedestrians; and inadequate infrastructure such as sidewalks, crosswalks and lighting in many parts of the country.

Pretty much anyone who drives anywhere has seen all of these issues firsthand. It’s the responsibility of local and regional governments to build and design better streets and to have sensible speed limits in areas with a lot of pedestrians. This means that it’s our responsibility as citizens to demand these changes.

In the meantime, the best thing we can do as individuals is to drive carefully and with a high level of awareness in places where it’s likely we’ll see people outside of cars.

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Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 year ago

They will build 13 1/2 cars this year.
As to FORD and the F150, is there any auto builder who does not fuck up the environment? Show me just one, or fight me, your choice…

MSB
MSB
1 year ago

44,500 so they can manipulate the stock price by exceeding the estimate. (I am an FSR shareholder–cough cough: sucker, small stake currently down 60%, and have a reservation for a P.E.A.R. which I believe will be built when I see one in my garage).

Kody Dagley
Kody Dagley
1 year ago

So if pedestrian deaths are way up what is the point of all this safety tech (pedestrian cameras and sensors and the like) that is going into cars if it doesn’t seem to be doing anything?

Silent But Deadly
Silent But Deadly
1 year ago
Reply to  Kody Dagley

It’ll take another 10 to 15 years before those features are ubiquitous in the US vehicle fleet.

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
1 year ago

There’s a lot of pickup owners who would be thrilled to know their trucks are hurting the Brazilian Rainforest. “Well hell. If ah cain’t roll coal at least ah can kill me a tree. Freedum!”

Greg
Greg
1 year ago

Really love throwing digs at tesla every change you get, reallly salty and it shows.

Marteau
Marteau
1 year ago
Reply to  Greg

????

Parsko
Parsko
1 year ago

41,414

Ryanola
Ryanola
1 year ago

I’d bet the pedestrian deaths are increased resulting from self-righteous, entitled cyclists riding down the center of the road. Cyclist motto: Hog the road, not share the road. I’m sorry, but if you get hit by a car, there’s likely shared fault there, unless you’re visually impaired or immobile. Survival of the fittest.

John Beef
John Beef
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryanola

In May ’22, I got my wrist shattered while riding my bicycle by a red light runner who was not paying attention. The light for her had been red at least 5 seconds. She would have plowed into a cop cruiser waiting for me to cross so they could go left if she hadn’t hit me first. Thankfully, it’s only permanent mobility deficiency in my case, and I’m not one of those statistics.

Ilikecarsandbikes
Ilikecarsandbikes
1 year ago
Reply to  John Beef

I am so sad that you have to be thankful it is “only permanent mobility deficiency”. Not that you are, that is an admirable quality in a person and I have a healthy respect for your maturity and life outlook. But the reality that requires it is deeply saddening.

Amberturnsignalsarebetter
Amberturnsignalsarebetter
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryanola

I’ve seen egregious road manners from cyclists, car/truck drivers, and pedestrians, but it would be interesting to hear where you got the data to support the idea that pedestrian deaths are due to cyclists “hogging the road”.

I don’t remember being taught about “Survival of the fittest” in drivers’ ed.

Strangek
Strangek
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryanola

Pretty sure that’s not the case. At all. Most commuting cyclists ride safely with their heads on a swivel because they (we) understand that getting on a bicycle somehow makes you completely invisible to motorists. This has been my practice and I’ve only been hit by cars twice, both times in a bike lane!

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryanola

Tell that shit to the poor bastards that get run over on their bikes. Survival of the fittest means shit when some asshole can kill 5 people and injure 17 more just cause he’s a shithead and having a bad day. Perhaps rethink your flawed position? Jesus Christ.

Marteau
Marteau
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryanola

F u

Ilikecarsandbikes
Ilikecarsandbikes
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryanola

I have seen exceptions, but by and large in my experience as a cyclist and a runner and a driver, the cyclists and runners are better at sharing the road than the cars are.

Based on the data I have seen, and the people I know who have been hit by cars, it wasn’t when they are in the center of the road (incidentally a very safe place to be when it is unsafe to pass as it makes you very visible and easy to avoid hitting and forces the road to be shared; say when there is oncoming traffic on a narrow two lane with either a ditch or a cliff next to the road when passing would not go well for the cyclist).

How do you propose we collect the data for this wager? I am willing to discuss terms.

Clear_prop
Clear_prop
1 year ago

One factor rarely brought up in the pedestrians being hit by cars is the giant blind spots on modern cars thanks to the huge A-pillars.

Pedestrians coming from the left side are especially at risk of the huge A-pillars since at certain pedestrian/car approach speeds, they are entirely hidden behind the A-pillar until they step in front of the hood.

I’ve almost hit several pedestrians due to this issue, and I try to actively look around the A-pillar when I’m in areas with pedestrians.

Drew
Drew
1 year ago
Reply to  Clear_prop

Absolutely. We’ve overbuilt cars to perform well in collision testing, and it has absolutely wrecked visibility. By ignoring visibility, we’ve made the collisions more likely, and the smaller and more vulnerable (pedestrians, bicyclists, motorcyclists) are likely to get the worst of those collisions, being both easier to miss in those pillars and less protected.

InvivnI
InvivnI
1 year ago
Reply to  Clear_prop

I remember my dad back in 2006 deciding to cancel his order for a new Jeep Patriot because he decided the A-pillars were too thick, I think they were one of the first cars he’d driven with curtain airbags. He went for a Toyota Prado instead. I wonder what he’ll make of our pillbox Mazda 3

Mantis Toboggan, MD
Mantis Toboggan, MD
1 year ago
Reply to  Clear_prop

Happened to me going into a fast food drive thru. A lady was walking across the parking lot and I guess our relative movements conspired to keep her behind my A pillar and she was on the phone. Thankfully her hair fluttered in the breeze and caught my attention. Scared the hell out of me. I was in a Chevy Express van and it’s pillars are huge.

Another Engineer
Another Engineer
1 year ago

I applaud the Autopian for sharing the article on pedestrian crashes and the commentary around it. Furthermore, most of the commentary is empathetic and insightful about conditions for those outside vehicles in this country. This is part of why I keep coming back, despite being a low-car use bicycle commuting transportation engineer.

Waremon0
Waremon0
1 year ago

If you haven’t already checked it out, the Smoking Tire Podcast has had some great guests on recently to talk about transportation in general (instead of strictly cars) and I’ve been really captivated by it. Generally, the conclusions are, if we improve walking and public transportation infrastructure, then driving personal vehicles can be used more for leisure and enjoyment than necessary transportation.

Loudog
Loudog
1 year ago

Look at your average pedestrian. Notice the white earbuds in their ears, and their gaze locked lovingly on their mobile device. Yeah, I’m sure it’s the cars fault entirely. /s

Greg
Greg
1 year ago
Reply to  Loudog

both sides are paying way less attention, the results are showing.

Ben
Ben
1 year ago

/me looks at the wall of screens facing the driver in new cars

It’s a shame there isn’t a blatantly obvious cause of increased collisions between cars and pedestrians. /s

Given the amount of distracted driving I see in congested areas with pedestrians present I’m actually surprised the numbers aren’t much worse. The scale on that graph is incredibly misleading, but it looks like around an 18 or 19% increase over the past couple of years. That’s not good, but it’s not the massive spike the graph would suggest either.

Anders
Anders
1 year ago

I predict 2000 Fisker’s will come out of the Manga Steyr factory in ’23, but in addition I’m keeping my fingers crossed for an additional 1000 Pingzauer’s and Haflinger’s.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
1 year ago
Reply to  Anders

I’ll go out on a limb and predict that Fisker will outsell Elio in 2023!

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