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Ford Dealers Will Finally Sell You The Proper F-150 Street Truck You’ve Always Wanted, But There’s A Big Catch

Roush F150

Ford truck fans have been begging the Blue Oval for a new SVT F-150 Lightning for years. Somehow, Ford keeps getting close, but not quite there, with seriously fast trucks that miss out on one or two ingredients that the old Lightnings had. Roush Performance is doing what Ford apparently can’t, and will sell you a proper F-150 street truck through your local dealership with a warranty. But there’s one expensive catch.

I’m a huge fan of the street truck. I grew up with icons like the Ford SVT F-150 Lightning and the Dodge Ram SRT-10. I still dream about taking a spin in a GMC Syclone. It was glorious how America’s automakers were more than happy to sell you a sports car with a truck bed on the back.

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Truth be told, that spirit of tire-shredding muscle trucks and street trucks never really left – they just come with asterisks. Ford will happily sell you an F-150 with at least 700 horses under the power barn, but that pickup will either be a Raptor R, a work truck with no suspension, braking, or tire changes, or a crew cab truck. Ram will also sell you a ridiculously powerful truck, but again, it has to have four doors and shod in gigantic mud tires.

Ford F-150 Lobo. Credit: Ford

Ford is trying to quench the thirst of the street truck enthusiast with its Maverick and F-150 Lobos. The Maverick Lobo hits all of the right notes, except for the fact that it doesn’t get any additional ponies over a regular Maverick and ships with tires that don’t quite match the sporty vibe. The F-150 Lobo is technically available with more power and also looks the part, but it sits way too high and is available only in a four-door cab configuration. The electric Lightning is also plenty fast, but it isn’t a street truck.

To be fair, turning to the aftermarket can solve a lot of these issues. But there was something so satisfying about being able to peel out of the showroom in a proper street truck without having to stop by a customizer on your drive home. Roush is making what’s possibly the closest you’ll get to driving a new SVT F-150 Lightning off the dealership floor. This is the 2026 Ford F-150 Nitemare, and it’s the lowered single-cab V8 truck that the Lobo should have been offered in.

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Roush has been the go-to customizer for Ford fans for decades. Sometimes, if you want something that Ford doesn’t sell and are not loaded with the kind of cash that a Hennessey commands, Roush might be your stop. The company sells all sorts of parts as well as full vehicles. Right now, the Roush vehicle lineup consists of three Ford F-150 variants, a Super Duty, and the first-ever collaboration between Nissan and Roush for the Frontier.

The Nitemare was added to the Roush lineup in 2025 and makes a return this year with a few upgrades. The Nightmare takes a Ford F-150 XL or XLT and turns it into a street truck. Much of it is cosmetics. You get a Roush front clip featuring orange lettering, functional heat extraction vents on the hood, and the requisite Nitemare badges. Of course, it can’t be a modern truck without flashy lighting, and Roush gives you clearance lights and illuminated badges.

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Then there’s the 22-inch wheels shod in 305/40R22 General Tire G-MAX AS07 all-season tires, a blacked-out tailgate, and optional puddle lights. Inside, Roush tosses out the work truck cloth for leather thrones and a leather steering wheel. For 2026, Roush will replace your truck’s rubberized flooring with premium carpet and Roush floormats. Also new for this year is the option to slap checkered flag graphics on the bed.

The style is sinister and nails the street truck look down perfectly, I think. But where the Nitemare really shines is under the metal. Roush dropped the truck three inches up front and five inches in back through lowering knuckles and spindles. Handling is taken care of through a set of coilovers, twin-tube shocks, progressive-rate springs, and upgraded sway bars. The truck has a 1.375-inch bar up front and a 1-inch bar taking up the rear. Those bars connect to CNC aluminum sway bar bushing brackets.

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There’s more, as slotted brake platters back up the new meaty tires. Add it all up, and Roush says the truck says that the suspension and tire changes were good for 1 g in cornering on a road course. For comparison, a Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck is good for 0.77 g when the going gets twisty. The F-150 Lobo pulls 0.79 g while the Maverick Lobo hits 0.96 g. So, Roush made a material difference in handling here, which is great.

The stock Roush Nitemare doesn’t touch the engine at all, and instead flirts with the exhaust by fitting a catback system to the engine’s throat. That means 400 horsepower and 410 lb-ft of torque from the howling Coyote under the hood. Should that not be enough, you could also add Roush’s TVS R2650 2.65-liter supercharger to crank the volume to 705 HP and 635 lb-ft of twist.

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You can buy your Nitemare in either Regular Cab or SuperCab, though Roush says that the fancy interior accoutrement is available only in the Regular Cab version. Besides, there’s really no reason to buy one of these with a SuperCab, anyway. At that point, just buy a Lobo and lower it.

Honestly, a 2026 Ford F-150 Nitemare with the optional supercharger sounds like the kind of truck Ford should just sell straight from the factory. Offer it with both cabs, too, so you can maximize on interest. Unfortunately, since Ford doesn’t do that, you’re left knocking on Roush’s door, and here’s where the catch comes in.

It Costs How Much?

The Nitemare costs $22,999 on top of whatever you pay for the base truck. I think I can hear the faint sounds of a Ford fan quaking in their Timberland boots and Truckle. You can get into a Regular Cab XL V8 for $42,125 or an XLT SuperCrew for $50,850. Basically, Roush is trying to say that the Nitemare kit, which is largely cosmetics and some suspension upgrades, costs half as much as a whole new base model F-150 V8. If you think 400 HP isn’t enough, Roush will then suck another $8,899 out of you for the supercharger. At the very least, all of this comes with a three-year, 36,000-mile warranty, which is neat.

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To be fair to Roush, it’s significantly less cash than the trucks that Hennessey slings nowadays.

Update: Also, as some readers have pointed out, it’s technically a fair price when you adjust the cost of an old street truck for inflation. A 1999 Ford SVT F-150 Lightning had an MSRP of around $30,000. Adjusted for inflation, that’s $59,668 today.

I suppose my gripe, then, is that Ford Performance’s FP700S package, which does add real horsepower and now comes with a mild rear suspension drop, costs $13,250. It doesn’t look as aggressive as the Nitemare, but it is a further suspension drop from being right there. So, the question for a Nitemare buyer would be if the leather seats and Roush branding are worth the extra cost.

Regardless of the price, I really like this truck. It has everything that I think is missing from the Lobo, and can be upgraded into a truck as patently crazy as the FP700 while looking even better. This could really be the holy grail of Ford street trucks if you can stomach the price!

But I guess I cannot be too salty. We still live in a reality where you can waltz down to the dealer of your choice and do a wicked burnout upon exit with way too much horsepower that you didn’t pay a ton of cash for. So, bravo for automakers for still being crazy sometimes. Now, I’m just hoping for Ford to bring back the Lightning as a performance truck for real now.

All photos: Roush

 

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Diana Slyter
Diana Slyter
1 month ago

Another Ford near miss- The Maverick Lobo is still too tall to be autocross eligible and anything sitting atop a frame don’t have a chance. Sorry Ford, your dropped trucks will never compete with real cars.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  Diana Slyter

I don’t think they’re trying to compete with real cars?

Last edited 1 month ago by FormerTXJeepGuy
Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago

I really just wish Ford wasn’t so damn lazy with the Lobo packages in the first place. They had a real opportunity to fill a basically unserved niche in the market and in typical Ford fashion they threw a body kit and tires on the trucks and were like “here’s your street truck, idiot. We know you’ll still finance $65,000 over 84 months”.

I can’t say I’d definitely buy an actual factory street/muscle truck, but I’d at least consider one. I thought the RAM “The Dude” concept was neat. I’d just want to be able to see pedestrians in front of me and be able to comfortably reach into the bed from the side. Obviously dramatically lowering the truck will have handling benefits as well.

But noooooo. Every truck has to be friggin YUGE now…

RAMbunctious
RAMbunctious
1 month ago

One thing I notice is that the beds on never trucks are much deeper. I’m 5’10 and I can’t touch the bed floor over the side when standing on flat ground.

I recently saw a 70’s bumpside F100 while walking my dog, and what struck me about it was how relatively shallow the bed was.

Trucks are definitely bigger though, I first thought the little swing down bed step on my Ram was lame, but damn if I don’t use it nearly every time I hop into the bed. I had a squarebody on 35’s when I was a kid and never had an issue, but I’m not 17 anymore. I even put sidesteps on it this past weekend that I tell people are for the GF, but I like them too.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago
Reply to  RAMbunctious

I do love the sheer practicality of a truck, and since trucks are where the money is they also get the coolest engine options outside of sports cars. I just live in the city and I cannot deal with the size or justify the higher ownership costs since I don’t NEED the capability.

RAMbunctious
RAMbunctious
1 month ago

It’s true, I wouldn’t have gotten a truck if I lived in a city, or even closer to downtown. Size isn’t an issue where I need to go, but we do take the GF’s car anytime we go anywhere we know has a small lot or we’ll need to street park.

I really do mostly highway driving, and this thing is SO comfy on the highway.

I got it more for the interior space than anything else, since none of the SUV’s on the market appealed to me.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  RAMbunctious

When I bought my Canyon in 16 that was one of my thoughts- why are the bedsides so damn tall?

pizzaman09
pizzaman09
1 month ago
Reply to  RAMbunctious

This is one of the things I love so much about my Jeep Comanche, the bed sides are not super tall and I can reach any part of the 6ft bed while standing on the ground. The bed floor itself actually isn’t all that high either, which is surprising given the very good ground clearance it has.

If you want to take it to a whole different level, Kei trucks are very low beds and have short fold down bed sides. I can actually just step over the bed side from the ground of my 99 Suzuki Carry and into the bed. It’s ultra functional and with its flat floor, makes hauling large things very easy.

The real reason trucks are so tall is they have to fit giant tires under them. If automakers downsized the tires then the bed floor would get lower and they could proportionally reduce the bed side height to look right.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  pizzaman09

They make beds for full size trucks that fold down on the sides.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  RAMbunctious

I got a telescoping boat hook for the bed.
I have loaded it to the topper and unloaded it without going past the tailgate.

RAMbunctious
RAMbunctious
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

Good idea! I’ve seen those advertised, seems like it’d be a hand thing. One of the tonneau covers I’m looking at even comes with one.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  RAMbunctious

I was originally looking for a traditional boat hook, but I found one with rubber pads for pushing and pulling, and I can’t believe I didn’t get one sooner.
Got it at one of the mainstream boating and hunting stores under the Crooked Creek brand, but actually made by Camco.
Telescoping, aluminum, they even claim it floats.
My Dodge has a slot for putting a divider near the back so things don’t slide forward, but not an issue with this handy.
I’d post a pic, but I can’t access discord.
That’s why I gave up on subscribing.

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
1 month ago

I think I’d rather get the FP700S package and turn to Katzkin or some factory take offs for leather and still come up much cheaper than the no extra power Roush option.

The World of Vee
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The World of Vee
1 month ago

Crazy to me that we’re complaining about price of a 700hp sport truck lol. If I told you BMWs new M3 had 700hp and cost 70k you wouldn’t bat an eye.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

400hp. Same stock engine as the $43K base XL work truck.

If we’re going to complain about prices, that may be a good place to start. Forty three grand for 2WD base no-options truck is nuts to me. A V8 isn’t enough at that price.

Hillbilly Ocean
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Hillbilly Ocean
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Because they can, amirite? Someone is buying the stuff.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

Pretty much. I don’t quite get it (particularly in $55,000 Crew Cab trims that get used as commuters), but then $55,000 seems OK to me for a sports sedan that can’t tow or haul squat and I’m sure truck buyers think that’s nuts as well.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

$42,125 – Stock XL
$22,999 – Roush suspension
$ 8,899 – Rouch Supercharger Kit (705 hp / 635 lb-ft
$74,023 – Total

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Ah, I see. But 67k without supercharger is closer to the “70k” originally cited than 74k is.

The larger point is that this truck is still rather expensive for what you get when comparing to an M3. An M3 with that BMW inline 6, a far better chassis, and the ability to actually put the power down still seems more reasonable at $70k than this basic truck with a plasticky interior, iffy-feeling build quality and a $23,000 (holy sh*t!) suspension and brake upgrade all to create a bit of a Frankenstein’s monster out of a contractor’s special.

I’ve driven too many F150s over the past decade to feel they are worth anywhere near their MSRP unless viewed solely as a business expense for real work done. Outside the powertrain and their ability to move heavy things around, they feel cheap in every facet of operation to me. I’d rather spend the 70 on a sports car that doesn’t feel cheap.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

$42,125 + $22,999 = $65,124.

Whether this truck is worth the price is up to the buyer and their needs. A BMW might have a better handling chassis but no doubt the truck hauls a yard of mulch home from the garden center better.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Thanks for the OCD correction of my botched head math.

I do appreciate the specificity an engineer can bring to the table, but I really must ask in this particular case: does it fundamentally change the argument to which you are replying?

“Whether this truck is worth the price is up to the buyer and their needs.”

Obvious observation is obvious. I intentionally used statements of personal opinion and preference in my second paragraph to recognize this concept.

“yard of mulch”

Uh oh. A yard is a two-dimensional measure of distance. Mulch is a physical substance with three dimensions, better expressed in volumetric units of cubic yards. Given that a yard of mulch cannot physically exist, I think you’ll find that the M3 hauls it just as well as the F-150.

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*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Just found it odd that you rounded up almost $2,000 to get the price closer to $70K than $74K.

Yes, opinions are opinions. I personally can’t see paying $70K for a BMW M3 or a modified truck

Yes, a “yard of mulch” is short for a cubic yard. (27 cubic feet.) It is what you ask for if you visit a home center that sells in bulk and loads with a bobcat or front end loader instead of packaged little bags.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

If it’s fair to nitpick me over a $2,000 price oversight on a $65,000 vehicle, it’s fair to nitpick you over choosing slang (I know what “yard” meant in that context) on unit of measure.

Neither nitpicking changes the points of the arguments, do they?

Last edited 1 month ago by Phil
The World of Vee
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The World of Vee
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

It seems silly that you’d spend 23k on the Roush kit and not spend the marginally more money to also add the supercharger

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

That I agree with. But either one is too expensive in my view, and it’s the combination of the too-high base price and twenty-three thousand dollar Roush kit. It’s a fun truck and I’m glad it is offered, but not $67-74,000, at least not to me.

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DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

If you want power, get a diesel.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Still too niche an interest so the price stays high. But muscled up trucks have largely replaced the more traditional muscle cars in a lot of ways in the US.

Shinynugget
Shinynugget
1 month ago

The irony that a lowered truck in 2026 is probably still taller than my 1995 C1500 Silverado.
Also, how crazy is it that it can hit 1g on the skidpad. I remember when it was big news that a ‘Vette could that.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  Shinynugget

That 1g is its gravitational pull: these things are big.

Willard
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Willard
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

These trucks are fairly light these days at least, the RCSB 2wd version is ~4400lbs lbs these days with all the aluminum. I had an F150 made the year before they started using aluminum (2014) and it was about 700lbs heavier than it’s equivalent today.

AcidTonic
AcidTonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Shinynugget

It can’t if you read the MAVERICK is the one that hit .9+ g. This tank only manages .7g which is nothing impressive especially for a lowered vehicle on 305 width tires.

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
1 month ago
Reply to  AcidTonic

You might want to go back and re-read. The Lobo F-150 is the one that only manages 0.7g. Rousch is claiming 1g for the Nightmare.

My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
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My Other Car is a Tetanus Shot
1 month ago

I’m just mostly shocked Ford still produces a regular-cab truck, TBH.

They can’t be selling but a handful of them to fleets.

Anyway, we’re pretty spoiled for power, so the blower seems rather superflous on a rear-drive truck, aside the amusement of slightly more entertaining burnouts.

I’d be curious if Ford would put a Godzilla motor in a regular cab version of this from the factory. Probably not, given that it would traumatize their fuel-economy ratings.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

A 7.3 liter engine would probably turn the weight balance to 90/10 front/rear

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

From what I’ve seen on people swapping the 7.3L Godzilla into other vehicles, the weight difference over the 5.0L Coyote is only like 115lbs, depending upon accessories. Despite the displacement, the Godzilla is roughly the size and weight of an iron block GM LS motor.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Interesting. I knew I was exaggerating but I thought Godzilla would have weighed a bit more nonetheless.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

I might be wrong on the exact weight difference, but I know there is a lot of love for the Godzilla because it is an alternative to the LS motors for swaps into chassis too narrow for the large width of the Coyote, even staying in the same weight range (something like 520lbs, so about the same as a GM LQ4).

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Fuel economy ratings? We don’t need no stinking fuel economy ratings.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 month ago

I think it was here that someone posted that the regular cab only made up 3% of sales, though I’m not sure if that was F-150 or included the F-250 and F-350. However since that same cab is used all the way up through the MD lines it isn’t that big of a surprise since a regular cab is very common in the MD trucks. The thing that surprises me is that they still offer it with the short bed. The long bed I understand since a lot of fleets buy those and it can use most of the same chassis components as the Super Cab short bed.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Scoutdude

Could be lower now. The latest data I’ve seen is from 2020:

For the current model year, regular cab pickups made up only 3 percent of the U.S. mix, down from 6.6 percent in 2016. Extended cabs account for 14 percent of sales in the U.S., down from 18.7 percent in 2019 and 24.4 percent in 2016.

In Canada, extended cabs make up 9.6 percent of the market, meaning that true two-door, backseat-lacking models account for just 1.5 percent of all pickup sales.

RAMbunctious
RAMbunctious
1 month ago

Same, I thought they discontinued it. Whenever I see a RCSB it turns my head, I think they’re the best-looking variety of truck, but they’re so rare now. And I get it, they’re the least practical. A crew cab truck can double as pretty practical family transportation, a reg cab with bucket seats not so much.

I had a shortbed squarebody in the 90’s, and I LOVED how it looked, but even as a kid I was often frustrated not having a back seat or at least some more storage behind the seat. I long to get another, but this time around I’m going for a Blazer.

pizzaman09
pizzaman09
1 month ago

I’ve seen way more single can new trucks in the past couple of years than one would expect. They are very popular with the I just retired crowd and want a new truck that isn’t so big to handle and no longer haul kids around.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 month ago

I look at this and can’t help but think one could copy most of this with a bunch of aftermarket parts and a couple of weekends of wrenching. You don’t get the warranty though, and that is a factor, but lots of folks mod warrantied cars.

I kinda like it, but just the Roush add-ons are more than I have ever paid for a car.

Alter Id
Alter Id
1 month ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

It’s not just the warranty – all these upgrades are included in your new car loan if you buy this package, which makes things a lot easier to manage than buying and installing them afterwards, even if you save money doing so. And resale value as a share of the total cost will probably be a lot higher for the factory-backed package as well.

i Pete in the woods
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i Pete in the woods
1 month ago

I think I can hear the faint sounds of a Ford fan quaking in their Timberland boots and Truckle.

Surely you mean TREMORing…

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

Fun. 400hp in a lightweight single cab config like this should move very nicely.

It would be tempting to debadge this thing of the “Nitemare” stickers and headrests, though. I see the word play and it’s kinda clever given Ford’s peacocking cowboy and horse themes, but I’m getting more than a little weary of this childish brashness from domestic brands.

There’s some irony in the interior shot of the front seat, with the flag and Nitemare in the same frame. I think a lot of people are feeling that way.

AcidTonic
AcidTonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

What you aren’t a Renegade who puts out Raptor energii that makes your enemies Tremor? Or are you a Maverick stomping around like a Sasquatch in the Outer Lands? I didn’t ST’ Stutter, fool I have a Fusion of Freestyle and could really take you on an Excursion….

Alter Id
Alter Id
1 month ago
Reply to  AcidTonic

Dude… focus.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago

That thing is awesome. If I hadn’t bought a new Jeep yesterday I might be ordering one.

I am not even bothered by the price. It is reasonable to question whether these upgrades are worth $30k, but it would be hard to argue that these upgrades aren’t worth at least a $15k premium. These are extremely niche vehicles that will sell in low volume. If you want a unique product like this you should be prepared to pay more than it is “worth” by standards of a mass market vehicle.

Also, vehicles are expensive in 2026. I was surprised that the catch referenced in the headline was that an unbelievably cool, low volume, 700 hp supercharged sport truck costs $72-$80k. That isn’t much more than the crew cab F150 Lariats I see all the time.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

Tell me about the Jeep.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

It is a 2026 Wrangler Sport two door with a soft top and a manual transmission. It only has two options – tinted rear windows and an upgraded color (’41 green, which is a darker green based on the military green used in WW2). It is about as basic a vehicle as you can get in 2026.

“Anachronistic” probably sums it up this vehicle in one word. It drives and looks like a vehicle from decades ago. While it isn’t very basic compared to base models from the past (it has power locks, power window, AC, a modern stereo, etc.), I doubt you would have trouble convincing some people it is a 2006 and not a 2026. I also suspect there is a non-trivial amount of young people who have never seen a vehicle with three pedals before.

My daily driver for the last 8 years has been an EV (first a Leaf, than a Model 3). I liked those a lot (to be fair, I have never owned a vehicle I didn’t like), but I missed the experience of driving a vehicle that feels more analog than digital. I also figured that, while I can get a new high-tech EV any time I want, the writing is on the wall for the vehicles like my Wrangler.

I daily drove a Wrangler in my 20s and 30s so I have some idea of what I got myself into, but now that I’m in my 40s and used to modern technology, it is a bit of a risk to step back in time to a vehicle like this. I figure I can always trade it for a used Tesla if I don’t end up liking it, though.

So far, though, I love it.

Last edited 1 month ago by The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
AcidTonic
AcidTonic
1 month ago

Enjoy collecting your ducks

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago
Reply to  AcidTonic

I don’t get the ducks. This is my second Wrangler, but the ducks will always be one of those Jeep things I don’t understand.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago

Awesome. I’m very happy Jeep still makes a basic stick shift 2-door Wrangler. I think you were smart to grab one while you can.

RAMbunctious
RAMbunctious
1 month ago

Congrats on the new Jeep! Great color choice, I’ve seen that color in the wild on a 41 edition Willys, it looked amazing with the special wheels and tan top.

If you do one upgrade to your Jeep, you should get those 41 style wheels. Best looking wheel I’ve ever seen on a Jeep.

I’ve been thinking about getting a TJ, I’ve always wanted one and think it would be a good offroader/around town cruiser.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago
Reply to  RAMbunctious

I also really like the 41 style wheels. My Jeep has the black steel wheels which I think pair well with the ’41 color, but I might swap them for the ’41 style at some point. If nothing else, I presume the black wheels could be painted to match the rest of the Jeep. I think that would also look good.

Last edited 1 month ago by The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
RAMbunctious
RAMbunctious
1 month ago

I think the body matched steelies would look terrific too. I bet those 41 wheels cost $$$$, though there are a few companies that make alloys that look like retro steelies.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago

Congratulations!! That’s so exciting!

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Thanks! I have been thinking about this purchase literally for months and finally did it. I have been looking forward to this vehicle for a while.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

I don’t get this. It’s a shitty sports car and a shitty truck for a TON of money. Lateral grip on a skid pad is not handling. Anything can pull close to 1G on a smooth pad if you make it stiff enough and put sticky enough tires on it – but can it do that on a bumpy frost heaved back road without your needing a kidney belt or getting bounced into the ditch?

Buy a proper truck and a used Corvette and let your inner redneck run free.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

Guaranteed – a very, very smooth one.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

There’s one aspect that, arguably, makes it a better truck: it’s lower to the ground letting it be easier to load things into the back.

I’m also willing to bet that this truck has more suspension compliance than the average car – but it’s more hampered with it’s added weight over a car.

Angrycat Meowmeow
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Angrycat Meowmeow
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

This got me curious and I went to their website to see how their modifications affect the GVWR, towing and payload. Not surprised that I didn’t find anything, although the Roush Supplemental Owners Guide will tell you what a great job you did selecting the Roush Hitch Cover and how to wax your truck.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

The first thing I noticed when I looked at the pictures is that this truck isn’t that low. Just back to stock height for a 2wd work truck a few decades back. An estimate from the wheel size says maybe 6 inches of clearance.

Far cry from the old street truck days were the frame was almost touching the ground.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Baby steps, I guess.

This is no S10Xtreme, or Tacoma X-Runner.

Angrycat Meowmeow
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Angrycat Meowmeow
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

There’s a market for expensive vehicles that suck at pretty much everything. Just look at Jeep.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

Jeeps are pretty great at the one thing they are meant to do. But very few people use them for that. Never forget that 50% of people are below average.

Greg
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Greg
1 month ago

I usually talk shit in my head when I see RR and Roush trucks/cars. I love this. Sure, I’d want a different grill and wheels, but other than that its great. I don’t have 70k for this, but I hope a lot of people who do buy one, so they make more and maybe Ford steps it up.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

Is this still running with the 10R transmission?

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
1 month ago

I can’t say it doesn’t have a certain appeal… But those wheels have to go. I understand the why of having them; the style is popular. But I’d prefer something a bit more stout on a truck. Honestly, slotted steelies with appropriate trim rings and center caps would be just fine.

Buzz
Buzz
1 month ago

I was hoping the insane catch was that it was only offered for single cab short bed trucks, as pictured above. It looks great in that configuration.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 month ago

Timed perfectly to coincide with the beginning of the gas crisis.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago

Gas needs to go up quite a bit more to qualify as a crisis. Adjusted for inflation gas is still cheaper than many years in the past.

IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
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IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
1 month ago

It’s probably not a terrible price for a niche product. The economy of scale doesn’t work out when most people who plan to mod their new trucks want to lift them and do other things that go in the opposite direction of a street truck.

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 month ago

It seems like the smart money play is a tune and tires on a Maverick Lobo. *shrug* I haven’t really looked at what you can do to the engine on the Mav, but most turbo fours seem to be able to have the wick turned up significantly with a few supporting mods, and good tires are readily available.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

There are multiple tuners that already serve this market, I don’t know any of them, but I’ve heard through my underground car nerd network that there are a couple rolling around with significant boot upgrades.

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

Some quick googling says you can get a new Mav Lobo for under $40K, and you can bump that to 260hp/300ft-lb for another $700 or so, and throw down $1500 or so on summer tires. Sounds like most of the fun for half the money.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

This is my kind of sport truck!

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

There’s a new ’25 on the lot in my area in the good blue paint for 30K! I really shouldn’t go test drive it….

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

OF COURSE they are advertising it with all kinds of rebates most people won’t qualify for:

Price includes: $1000 – AXZD Plan Bonus Customer Cash. Exp. 04/30/2026 $1000 – Bonus Customer Cash. Exp. 04/30/2026 $1000 – Retail Customer Cash. Exp. 04/30/2026 $1000 – Retail Customer Cash. Exp. 04/30/2026 $500 – 2026 Farm Bureau Recognition Exclusive Cash Reward. Exp. 01/04/2027 $500 – 2026 First Responder Recognit

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

$1500 – you have to leave location services on all the time and submit your grocery store receipts to the dealer
$500 – first responder that never needed to use emergency services personally – we salute you for helping keep public service taxes low!
$3000 – if you read this far you’re disqualified from all rebates, including this one

So yeah, come on in and we’ll give you $4000 to drive away in one of our trucks!

*$4000 is a cash loan at 28.99% APR that must be repaid over 84 months and is subject to early repayment penalties. May not be combined with any other offer. Should be illegal in all areas. APR higher in Alaska and Hawaii.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

You forgot the Farm Bureau Recognition bonus!

As long as you don’t dare use our lowered sport truck for farm things, as doing so will violate your warranty. We’ll know you were doing this, as we can monitor your location and vehicle modes!

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

This is the kind of craptastic deceptive advertising that should be punished.

Darnon
Darnon
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

To be fair the Farm Bureau and X-plan are both easy to get access to. FB and Mustang Club of America (for X-plan) <$40 each.

I’m trying
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I’m trying
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

The 8f35 in my 2020 transit connect couldn’t survive the 160hp na2.0 for a full 80,000miles. I can’t imagine the mavericks holding up better with awd launches and another 100hp and 175 lbft of torque. Dealers and independents are asking 9-10k for transmission replacement. So budget accordingly.

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 month ago
Reply to  I’m trying

The Lobo uses the transmission from the Edge ST, but with second gear programmed out for some reason, so that ought to be a bit less fragile.

Darnon
Darnon
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

Some early reports speculated that or the euro Focus trans, but, nope, it’s just the 8F35 with a gear electronically deleted.

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 month ago
Reply to  Darnon

In the Edge, that seems to be able to cope with 335hp/380lb-ft, so there have to have been some internal changes from I’m Trying’s 8F35 of 2020.

Darnon
Darnon
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

The Edge uses a different model transmission, 8F57.

V10omous
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V10omous
1 month ago

To be fair, this price is not out of line with what the old street trucks cost, especially considering the better power and features, not to mention that Roush trucks never sell for anything near sticker:

1991 GMC Syclone – $26,000 is $63,000 today

1999 Ford Lightning – $30,000 is $60,000 today

2004 Ram SRT10 – $45,700 is $80,000 today.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

That was my thought as well, still out of reach for me, as a third car as I’d struggle to use it as a daily; but you don’t buy these things for practical reasons.

V10omous
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V10omous
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

In general, people tend to greatly exaggerate how affordable things were in the past. An SRT-10 or a Lightning was an impractical toy and not something a normal Joe could typically afford!

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

Oh absolutely , I was there!! I was also driving $700 shitboxes so…

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

So true. People look at the low MSRP’s from the past and forget that wages were even lower.

V10omous
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V10omous
1 month ago

Thanks, not intended as criticism of the article which was well written and informative. Just more context for anyone who finds it useful.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago

So… What was the insane catch?

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

It’s either the $22,000 adder, or the fact that it still

ships with tires that don’t quite match the sporty vibe. 

305/40R22 General Tire G-MAX AS07 all-season tires

Blech.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I was definitely taken aback at General tires – seriously? – but I dunno, “cosmetics pack is overpriced and comes with the cheapest tires you can buy” isn’t an insane catch. It’s just a bad deal.

Matt K
Matt K
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

The size being offered is the issue here. 305/40/22 is very uncommon. General is the only one making a UHP All-Season in this size that is a recognized manufacturer. US OEM’s aren’t factory-installing Parada, Advanta, or Radar branded tires.

Furthermore, General is an American brand – so it ‘works’ on an American truck.

It’s besides the point that this particular size AS-07 tire is made in the Czech Republic (according to Tire Rack).

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt K

You might have me with the UHP, but you can get Hankook Ventus and Michelin Defenders in this size (not arguing with you exactly, just saying there are options). Having worked at discount tire for too too long (about two months), I think getting stuck with any kind of Generals you’ll be lucky to make it to 15,000 miles.

Matt K
Matt K
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

The Michelin Defenders are not an appropriate tire for a 700+hp truck with no weight in the bed. If you’re lucky to get 15k out of the Generals, you’ll definitely get 60k out of the Defenders with a 780 treadwear rating, even whilst burning out at every takeoff.

You don’t mention which Ventus you’re referencing – but I would guess it also doesn’t work because of weight load ratings.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt K

114V XL
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/hankook-ventus-st-rh06/p/11936

The load rating is ample for a 5000lb truck, I’d say.

Edit: wait, what’s the 700hp truck you’re talking about? This is still 400.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mechjaz
Angrycat Meowmeow
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Angrycat Meowmeow
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt K

I don’t understand why OEM’s do this. Go down to a 295/40/22 and you’ve got options from Michelin, Continental, Goodyear and Hankook for either summer or UHP all-season. Did they really need that extra 10mm?

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

It’s not the brand, but the “all-season” part I have issue with. General makes some good tires, and all-seasons (or no-seasons if you prefer) are fine for a car with no pretentions. But they have no business on an ungodly expensive car or truck intended to be a performance machine. It’s like winning a spot on an Olympic track team and then showing up for the 100 yard dash in Skechers Slip-Ons.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

Just sounds like an invitation to use the crappy tires up quickly in clouds of smoke and hard cornering. Then put on some appropriate ones.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
1 month ago

I’d rather have a work truck with the supercharger. Go full sleeper. I would lower it a little, but I’d keep the stock 18″ steel wheels.

Anybody want to spot me $60k?

4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
1 month ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

I like the way the sleeper work truck looks, but I’m not a fan of how it stops or turns. It needs some of the suspension and brake upgrades seen here.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  4moremazdas

This is what I’d do, get a two door short bed in fleet white, add all the Roush suspension bits and skip the interior upgrades. I’m certain Roush will happily sell me those parts. The only gap is the warranty coverage, but I haven’t owned a car with a warranty in half a decade, and that hasn’t bothered me.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
1 month ago
Reply to  4moremazdas

Yeah, I’m with you on suspension and brake upgrades, but I’m keeping the steelies. You can fit plenty of brake inside an 18″ wheel.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

There’s a lowered F-150 just out of my neighborhood that has a huge DRAG LIFE sticker in the back and I can’t help but wonder if they’ve thought through the, y’know, meanings that decal might have.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I kind of love it whether they’ve thought that through or not. I can’t decide which I like more.

Bags
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Bags
1 month ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

I love the idea of an old man not considering the alternate meanings of “drag” and taking it to meet his buddies at the drag strip.
I really really love the idea of an old walking up to the owner of the truck assuming that he likes to race, and being met by a 6’2″ woman in lots of sequin and a boa on her way to a totally different type of strip.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

“Oh excuse me I’m totally in the wrong place! My apologies. I’m so sorry.

I was looking for drag bingo.”

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

I think my favorite version of that, is a 6’2″ woman wearing sequins and a large boa, on her way to the drag strip.

Groover
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Groover
1 month ago

Mercedes, I very rarely disagree with your takes – but this thing is shit. Expensive shit.
But I expect the target market won’t recognize it as $23k over a stock truck – instead they’ll recognize it as an extra $450/mo over the term of the 84-month loan

Last edited 1 month ago by Groover
Groover
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Groover
1 month ago
Reply to  Groover

Mad props for getting 1G out of an F-series though, that’s an accomplishment!

Smoke&Mears
Smoke&Mears
1 month ago

Nitemare? Just a little too on the nose for the times maybe?

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Smoke&Mears

I think it’s a play on the old Ford Nite trim F150s they offered in the 90s. It was an appearance package sold along side the Lightnings. But yeah, seems like a name that fits the times…

Alexk98
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Alexk98
1 month ago

But there’s an insane catch

Is it that *gasp* Quality isn’t job Number One?

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