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Georgia Hammers Down On Imported Cars As It Reminds Officials To Ban The Titling Of Japanese Kei Cars

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Owners of imported vehicles are once again finding themselves on familiar, unstable ground. Georgia is among a growing list of states with rules telling officials to stop titling and registering legally imported, over 25-year-old Japanese vehicles. Owners are being left with pretty paperweights that cannot be driven on Georgia roads. Here is how and why Georgia is doing it.

For more than two years, many owners of Japanese Domestic Market cars in America have been facing an uphill battle with numerous states. Back in the summer of 2021, Maine and Rhode Island began revoking the registrations of vehicles that were legally imported into America and registered in those respective states. Later, Maine and Rhode Island were joined by New York, Georgia, Virginia, and Pennsylvania, each imparting upon JDM vehicle owners varying levels of registration difficulties.

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For example, New York, Georgia, Maine, and Rhode Island all started recalling the titles and registrations of JDM vehicles while Pennsylvania allowed some already registered vehicles to be grandfathered in. Pennsylvania also allows Kei car owners to register their vehicles as antiques, which at least allows the vehicles to be driven occasionally.

Pennsylvania

Georgia Department of Revenue “Motor Vehicle Division Policy Bulletin MVD-2023-05″ has surfaced on Facebook and JDM enthusiast sites. It reminds Georgia county tag offices that Kei-class vehicles cannot be registered in the state. Apparently, as the letter notes, Kei-class vehicles have been improperly titled and registered by Georgia tag offices, and the state seems to want to crack down on that. This spells bad news for enthusiasts who might have been able to register their imports in Georgia over the past two years.

Despite appearances, Georgia is not the latest state to join the fray. Back when I was still schlepping Smart Fortwo posts over at the German Lighting Site, I received emails from concerned JDM vehicle owners in Georgia. That was back in 2021 almost immediately following the original debacle in Maine and Rhode Island. Based on that, it would appear that Georgia also started denying titles and registrations over two years ago. The letter suggests that not all county tag offices were following the rules.

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What Started This Nightmare?

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Each state that has imposed rules against the registration and titling of imported vehicles has its own way of doing things. Maine decided to change its laws to effectively ban all imported vehicles from being able to be registered. The state modified 29-A MRSA 354 on June 15, 2021, which defines what the state considers to be an off-road vehicle:

“‘Off-road vehicle’ means a motor vehicle that, because of the vehicle’s design and, configuration, original manufacture or original intended use, does not meet the inspection standards of chapter 15, the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards, the United States Environmental Protection Agency’s pollutant requirements or the National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration’s crash testing standards and that is not a moped or motorcycle.”

You read that right. Under Maine’s definition of ‘off-road vehicle,’ anything you import into America that doesn’t have EPA or NHTSA certification, including a sweet 25-year-old Nissan Skyline, is on the same level as a Can-Am Maverick side-by-side. If you were to take Maine’s approach by the letter, vehicles built before 1967 and therefore predating the original application of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards should also be removed from the road.

Rhode Island took a different approach, deciding to reinterpret existing laws on its books. General Laws § 31-3-5 says that a vehicle can be denied registration because it is “mechanically unfit or unsafe” for highways. General Laws § 31-38-1 state that no person should operate a vehicle on a highway unless it is in good working order and in safe mechanical condition.

Rhode Island via Chuck Whoczynski

Those laws have been on Rhode Island’s books for years, and owners of imported vehicles were able to register vehicles despite them. However, Rhode Island has since changed how it interprets these laws to prohibit JDM imports from operating on its roads. Vehicle owners in Maine and Rhode Island have sued the state in attempts to get their registrations valid again. It is unclear what happened in those suits, but as of today, the aforementioned laws still stand.

Over in Maine, Rep. Shelley Rudnicki introduced a bill that, if passed, would no longer class a vehicle that could be imported under the 25-year rule as an off-road vehicle. As of writing, the bill is still pending.

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Georgia’s Shenanigans

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Georgia MVD

 

So, that brings us to what’s happening in Georgia. As I noted before, the letter isn’t representing a new change in the state’s laws, but seemingly cracking down on tag offices not following current guidance. Let’s go through some lines and explain what’s going on.

Georgia opens with these lines, stating that county tag offices have been registering Kei-class vehicles due to the fact that Kei cars are legal in other states and they look like they should be legal in Georgia. Emphasis mine:

The purpose of this bulletin is to notify County Tag Offices of the Department’s policy that prohibits the titling and registering of Japanese kei vehicles, minitrucks and similar vehicles (collectively, Kei Vehicles) in Georgia. Kei Vehicles are imported (primarily from Japan) for use as farming vehicles and off-road recreational vehicles in the United States.Periodically customers attempt to title and register these vehicles. Kei Vehicles are not compliant with U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). Therefore, they are not “street legal.” Kei Vehicles are barred from titling and registration.

Kei Vehicles are street legal in Japan. They have many features also found on street legal vehicles in Georgia, including headlights, taillights, seat belts and other features seen in other vehicles that are permitted on Georgia roads. Additionally, some states do consider Kei Vehicles to be street legal. Due to the similarities between Kei Vehicles and other street legal vehicles, combined with the differing laws in various states, both customers and county tag offices have been confused by the title and registration laws relating to these vehicles. Due to this confusion, certain customers have successfully, albeit unlawfully, had their Kei Vehicles titled and registered in Georgia.

It is important for counties to avoid titling and registering Kei Vehicles. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety issued a report warning that Kei Vehicles cannot protect passengers from collisions with even the smallest, lightest FMVSS vehicles. Kei Vehicles are not safe to be driven on Georgia roads.

Georgia then tells county tag offices how to identify an imported Japanese vehicle. The state tells county officials to count VIN digit length, noting that JDM cars aren’t going to have the 17-digit VIN of an FMVSS-compliant vehicle. However, Georgia also notes that the rule there doesn’t apply to vehicles made before 1981. If that somehow fails to identify the JDM vehicle, the state tells officials to put the VIN into the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s (NHTSA) VIN Decoder to see if the decoder spits out this message: “Error Text: 7 – Manufacturer is not registered with NHTSA for sale or importation in the U.S. for use on U.S roads; Please contact the manufacturer directly for more information.”

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Georgia MVD

Lastly, Georgia tells officials to physically inspect the vehicle in search of the FMVSS sticker stating: “This vehicle conforms to all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) in effect on the date of manufacture shown above.”

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Georgia makes it clear a couple of times in the letter that it believes its county tag offices have dropped the ball on imported vehicle registration. However, the state notes that owners of these vehicles can expect to have their plates revoked for the mistake:

We are aware that some Kei Vehicles imported into Georgia have been improperly titled and registered. When the Department learns of such titles and registrations, we issue a letter (i) notifying the owner that the title and registration are invalid and (ii) requesting return of the title. We also cancel the title and revoke the registration.

The State’s Argument

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So, on what grounds is Georgia revoking the titles and registrations of imported vehicles? The letter states:

The Department and the County Tag Offices cannot give legal advice, which should be made clear to customers. The County Tag Office is also not responsible for providing legal defenses of Department positions. However, you may share with customers who insist on a legal basis for excluding Kei Vehicles from titling and registration that O.C.G.A. § 40-3-30.1(f) prohibits titling or registering unconventional motor vehicles. Kei Vehicles are manufactured for the Japanese domestic vehicle market and are not manufactured to be compliant with FMVSS, so under Georgia law they are unconventional motor vehicles and cannot be titled and registered.

I decided to pull O.C.G.A. § 40-3-30.1(f). It states:

(A) “Unconventional motor vehicle or motorcycle” means any motor vehicle or motorcycle that is not manufactured in compliance with the following:
(i) Chapter 8 of Title 40, relating to equipment and inspection of motor vehicles;
(ii) Applicable federal motor vehicle safety standards issued pursuant to 49 U.S.C.A. Section 30101, et seq., unless and until the United States Customs and Border Protection Agency or the United States Department of Transportation has certified that the motor vehicle complies with such applicable federal standards; or
(iii) Applicable federal emission standards issued pursuant to 42 U.S.C.A. Section 7401 through Section 7642, the “Clean Air Act,” as amended.
(B) Such term shall not include former military motor vehicles.

The letter specifically points to section (f), which states:

(f) Unconventional motor vehicles or motorcycles shall not be titled or registered; provided, however, that a multipurpose off-highway vehicle manufactured after January 1, 2000, shall be registered upon proper application and payment of the required fee.

Ga. Code § 40-3-30.1 has contained the “unconventional motor vehicles” line for many years, going back to at least 2010. Oh, and the term “unconventional vehicles” comes straight from the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, and we’ll get to that organization in a moment.

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AAMVA

However, it seems the state didn’t begin enforcing it until two years ago. Even weirder is the fact that according to a prior and still current section of code, Ga. Code § 40-3-30, the state does allow the titling of a vehicle that is 25 years or older:

a. In addition to the reasons set forth in Code Section 40-3-29, no application shall be accepted and no certificate of title shall be issued to any motor vehicle which was not manufactured to comply with applicable federal motor vehicle safety standards issued pursuant to 49 U.S.C.A. Section 30101, et seq., unless and until the United States Customs Service or the United States Department of Transportation has certified that the motor vehicle complies with such applicable federal standards and unless all documents required by the commissioner for processing an application for a certificate of registration or title are printed and filled out in the English language or are accompanied by an English translation.

b. The provisions of subsection (a) of this Code section shall not apply to applications for certificates of title for such motor vehicles first titled in Georgia that have a manufactured date that is 25 years or older at the time of application. Certification of compliance shall only be required at the time of application for the issuance of the initial Georgia certificate of title.

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Mercedes Streeter

This has also been on the books for at least as long as the ‘unconventional vehicles’ section. So, one section of Georgia’s code states that vehicles have to meet FMVSS unless they’re 25 years or older. However, the very next section says too bad, no title or registration for you. What does the state say? No FMVSS sticker, no title or registration:

The Department has yet to see any importation paperwork confirming that a Kei Vehicle is FMVSS compliant and can be titled and registered in Georgia. O.C.G.A. § 40-3-30 does provide that if the U.S. Customs Service or the U.S. Department of Transportation certifies that a vehicle complies with FMVSS, then the vehicle can be titled. However, such a certification would be a special document separate from the standard importation paperwork, and we have yet to see an importer, dealer or owner present such a document.

Some owners believe that because the U.S. Customs Service permits a vehicle to be imported into the United States then the vehicle is street legal and can be titled and registered in Georgia. This is incorrect. If customs officials permit a Kei Vehicle or other non-FMVSS vehicle to be imported, that means the vehicle can legally enter Georgia but may be used for offroad uses only.

The customs documentation provided by an owner can provide clues that the vehicle cannot be titled and registered. For example, the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Form HS-7, Declaration—Importation of Motor Vehicles and Motor Vehicle Equipment Subject to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper and Theft Prevention Standards has two checkboxes that are commonly used to import Kei Vehicles.

The Organization Behind This Mess

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As I’ve written a few times before, the states are actually following guidance from the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. From my previous piece on the matter:

In November 2021, I located the source of this madness, and it was the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA). This is a non-governmental non-profit lobbying organization composed of motor vehicle and law enforcement administrators and executives from all 50 states. Canada, Mexico, the Virgin Islands, and Washington D.C. get representation in the AAMVA as well. Among other things, the organization seeks standardization of laws across the states regarding traffic safety, vehicle titling, and driver licensing. AAMVA does not have legislative power but it does urge all member states to follow its “best practices.”

Vehicles imported from Japan and China have been on AAMVA’s radar since the late 2000s. Back then, the organization noticed how tons of Kei trucks were flooding American shores and the states didn’t really know how to handle them. It should be noted that a lot of these trucks weren’t older vehicles imported under the Imported Vehicle Safety Compliance Act of 1988, but newer trucks with speed limiters meant for farm or utility work.

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The recommendation for restrictions largely didn’t happen in the aforementioned states until 2021, when Maine’s BMV, with the help of the DMVs of Georgia, Colorado, and South Dakota published Regulation of Off-Road Vehicles: Best Practices.

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I highly recommend giving my history on JDM car bans a read, but the important part to know is that the AAMVA urges state DMV administrators to classify any vehicle that doesn’t meet FMVSS as an off-road vehicle, barring them from road use. But, weirdly, it also specifically targets Kei trucks that are otherwise legal to import into America. The AAMVA recommends removing Kei vehicles from American roads because safety experts believe the vehicles are unsafe:

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By allowing on-road operation of used mini-trucks, Canada and the U.S. are accepting another nation‘s cast-offs—vehicles that no longer meet the exporting country‘s vehicle safety or emissions standards. Increasing the supply of older model vehicles in North America undermines government and industry efforts to improve vehicle safety and reduce vehicle emissions, as these efforts are largely dependent on fleet turnover. This risk can be reduced by placing restrictions on the use of these non-conforming vehicles in Canadian and U.S. jurisdictions.

This statement followed an Insurance Institute for Highway Safety opinion that low-speed vehicles and mini trucks are unsafe and should be removed from the road. Georgia’s letter cites the aforementioned opinion.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration requires that a vehicle either meet FMVSS or be at least 25 years old to be exempt. The EPA, on the other hand, either wants the vehicle to meet its emissions standards or be at least 21 years old. This is the infamous “25-Year Rule,” officially, the Imported Vehicle Safety Compliance Act of 1988 that governs when an enthusiast can finally bring their dream car into America. However, being able to get your car across the border doesn’t mean that you’ll be able to register it and drive it on the road. That is because vehicle registration is handled by the states. In fact, the state of Wisconsin says this, emphasis mine:

The National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration (NHTSA) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) allows for vehicles to be imported into the country once the vehicle has reached a certain age. However, NHTSA and EPA are not responsible for regulating the operation of motor vehicles on public roads in the U.S. or for titling or registering motor vehicles for such operation:that is the responsibility of the individual states.

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The most shocking part is that the AAMVA admits in its documentation above that its recommendations may clash with existing laws. When that happens, AAMVA recommends that a state just change its laws until the recommendations are legal. As I said before, some states are changing their laws, others are just reinterpreting or otherwise enforcing existing laws.

A Long Road Ahead

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Unfortunately, I fear this is far from the end of the road for the owners of imported vehicles. The AAMVA issues recommendations for all states and it may be only a matter of time before imported car bans spread further westward. As it is, some states already make imported vehicle ownership difficult. Wisconsin says it does not register Kei-class vehicles. You can register a larger import, but it must not be modified and it cannot be your primary car. Those rules date back at least a decade.

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I have reached out to AAMVA officials as well as top officials at the Georgia Department of Driver Services as well as the Georgia Department of Revenue, Motor Vehicle Division. The Department of Driver Services pointed me to the Department of Revenue. Should these individuals reply or return calls, I will update this article as well as write an update.

Are you someone impacted by the rules imposed by these states? If so, how are you coping with this situation? Have you found ways to keep your car on the road?

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steve Wander
steve Wander
7 months ago

We have Polish made ‘Smart’ cars here, Penske backed. same as a Mercedes 1 series? And those are junk. We have those 3 wheeled Can Am Spyder jokes and they drive them with no helmets here (wth?) Are the not registered as motorcycles? Yes they are registered as motorcycles but it’s up to the officer to issue a no helmet ticket, heck you can even drive these in the car pool lane because it only has 2 seats? Laws are written to be enforced not interpreted by the guy with the gun. These are frigging cars that are probably still safer than a 60 Chevy Biscayne with a solid steering columns…Busses here still don’t require seat belts. Neither do motorcycles. And guess what. We got 40 mph electric bikes that teenagers are riding wheelies down the road on their way back from grade school yet we can’t ride a Tecumseh powered Taco minibike on a public road here? I’m gonna pull the 5HP mill and put a 1000w motor and a battery pack in my Powell Challenger mini bike frame and cruise it down the entire lane …because bikes can take an entire lane now here. Pedals? Sure! They don’t do anything but it has them bolted on..laws are laws.

Bill D
Bill D
7 months ago

How does this affect European cars that were grey-marketed into the US during the ’80s? Typically those were converted by the importer to be FMVSS- and EPA-compliant, but still bear their non-US-market VINs.

Anthony Henderson
Anthony Henderson
7 months ago

And yet, motorcycles are totally legal.

Greg
Greg
7 months ago

I’m gonna register one up here in the free north and then HAMMER the hell out of it all over Georgia roads.

Racer Esq.
Racer Esq.
7 months ago
Reply to  Greg

It shall be known as the war of N-Box aggression.

John E
John E
7 months ago

American Left: We want more government control!
States: We are going to control more.
American Left: But, but not more control of what WE want!!!
Sorry, lefties. You can’t have it both ways. You demand more government regulation, you get more government regulation.
P.S. You can register them and drive then on-road in Arizona because the crazy left hasn’t taken complete control here…yet.

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
7 months ago
Reply to  John E

I get it, the Right wants control over women’s bodies, to settle everything with a gunfight in the streets, to bald face lie with impunity, and the Left is crazy. M’kay.

On a lighter note, how’s the weather down there? Do Fox/Newsmax/OAN even cover weather?

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
7 months ago
Reply to  John E

Uhhhh, have you been to Georgia?

65tux
65tux
7 months ago
Reply to  John E

It’s a car site. Not a political site. Go somewhere else please.

Sivad Nayrb
Sivad Nayrb
7 months ago
Reply to  65tux

…you’re obviously new here.

Davey
Davey
7 months ago

My ’99 tercel is a death trap for anyone inside (only a single driver airbag, no passengers get any, and it’s likely a Takata one at that so I’m dead regardless)
I understand safety concerns but how can I be on the road and those can’t lol

SarlaccRoadster
SarlaccRoadster
7 months ago
Reply to  Davey

remember that NHTSA deemed the Yugo perfectly road-legal, in comparison your Tercel is an armored truck

Last edited 7 months ago by SarlaccRoadster
Frown Victoria
Frown Victoria
7 months ago

And this isn’t the only way states are cracking down on enthusiasts. A handful of years back, my state raised the threshold for antique vehicle registration from 25 to 45 years. Because, you know, antique is a static era and only winga dinga applies…
Guess they saw too many 90s civics with antique plates and saw an opportunity to gouge us.

Last edited 7 months ago by Frown Victoria
Lucy Tycho
Lucy Tycho
7 months ago

This makes me see red. I’m already bitter over the 25-year-rule. This is the nation showing its true colours. Soon everything on the road will have to be one of those giant landship cars, which are even more unsafe (for everyone outside of them). It’s unforgivable for a nation with claims of freedom to be this heavily restrictive here. Doubly hypocritical if you want to compare it to the lax gun regulation (literally meant for the opposite of safety, mind).

I don’t even want a JDM (okay, a Cappuccino would be fun), I just want one of the small practical cars like they sell in Europe but refuse to bring over here. Time and again we see that this is purely a manipulative method to milk more profit. It’s disgusting that the government buys into it.

And furthermore, consider the many many MANY absolute POSes that are allowed to be on the road. If we want to ban anything for being unsafe, it’s those

Last edited 7 months ago by Lucy Tycho
Rafael
Rafael
7 months ago

“Kei Vehicles cannot protect passengers from collisions with even the smallest, lightest FMVSS vehicles”
They do have a point here, since the lightest FMVSSDY11 vehicle for sale in the US are probably still as big as an aircraft carrier – not even other FMVSSDY11LGVKTDRs have a chance!
/JK, just to be clear – these bans are asinine :-/

Last edited 7 months ago by Rafael
Strangek
Strangek
7 months ago

These bans seem to based on speculation, not reality. I haven’t seen any news articles regarding fatal kei car crashes.

Racer Esq.
Racer Esq.
7 months ago

Time to start looking at Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist in Georgia.

I a guessing the IIHS is the fundamental driver here. Auto insurance companies are losing money and abandoning states, and they are probably grasping for any cost savings they can get, constrained by the following politics realities:

-Brodozers have too much political support from bros, domestic automakers, and domestic auto unions.
-Oversized, massively heavy electric cars and trucks (e.g., Hummer) have too much support from progressives desperate for electrification even if they have to concede to huge trucks.
-They are not going to be able to do anything about classic cars or motorcycles (especially I would image Harley and their owners are not a lobby to cross).
-DMVs are not smart enough to distinguish between LSVs, side-by-sides, 25-year rule cars, and cars too new to qualify for the 25 year rule. It probably does not help that a lot of the dealers selling 25-year rule k-trucks are also selling newer k-trucks that are, hint hint wink wink, off highway use only. Or that people try to plate $1,000 Chinese kit trucks.

It is unfortunate. I’ve always viewed the 25-year rule as a good compromise between maintaining widespread consumer protection and letting sophisticated buyers assume their own risk.

Unclewolverine
Unclewolverine
7 months ago

My jdm imported xj cherokee would give some of these lawmakers an aneurysm.

IRegertNothing, Esq.
IRegertNothing, Esq.
7 months ago

Like I needed another reason not to live in goddamn Georgia.

Last edited 7 months ago by IRegertNothing, Esq.
Doctor Nine
Doctor Nine
7 months ago

Came here to make sure someone said this. Left satistified

Framed
Framed
7 months ago

The embedded videos don’t play on my iPhone with Chrome browser. Anybody else having trouble?

JunkerDave
JunkerDave
7 months ago
Reply to  Framed

Nope. (On a desktop, though.) Embedded videos are annoying, I almost never watch them. The reason we have “writers” is to put things into words and write those words paper (or the computer screen).

Jerry Johnson
Jerry Johnson
7 months ago

This seems like a good time to remind people that you can register a vehicle in South Dakota through the mail and they will mail plates, a title, and registration back to your house (or PO Box).

Captain Zoll
Captain Zoll
7 months ago

Remember kids, it’s illegal to drive a suzuki carry on US roads,
but haphazardly strap the suzuki carry’s cab onto a rusted out chevy S10 chassis which you hacked up and booger welded to be shorter, and it’s be perfectly safe and legal to drive!

After all, somewhere on that chassis there’s a barely legible number declaring VMFSS compliance, and that’s the sole criteria for a car’s safety!

Anchor
Anchor
7 months ago
Reply to  Captain Zoll

I mean that isn’t going to pass Safety inspection in any state that requires it. You sure aren’t driving it here in Pennsylvania

SarlaccRoadster
SarlaccRoadster
7 months ago
Reply to  Anchor

these same people banning kei cars left and right for “safety” are the same ones who lobbied for (and succeeded) getting rid of safety inspections

Anchor
Anchor
7 months ago

Looking at it I don’t really think that’s the case

DadBod
DadBod
7 months ago

I know a guy in Athens, GA who drives a Kei truck or two, I hope he can skate by for a while

Space
Space
7 months ago

Keep us updated on the results of any lawsuits you find. I have a feeling revoking a registration might fall under some state’s clause as a “taking” and the owners were not compensated.
Officials shouldn’t be able the change the rules without changing the law.

Scott Correy
Scott Correy
7 months ago

What about my Nissan Pao? It is not a Kei car but has a short VIN. From the posted document it sounds like they’re actually going after all JDM cars in the guise of just banning Kei cars since most have short VINs

Last edited 7 months ago by Scott Correy
Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
7 months ago
Reply to  Scott Correy

Yeah, that’s what other states did. In the case of Maine, it seems like their DMV just used the term “kei” interchangeably with “Japanese market”, since they started out by revoking title and registration to imported Mitsubishi Delicas (while referring them to as kei cars in the letters)

ChrisGT
ChrisGT
7 months ago

Curious how golf carts and other low speed vehicles fall into this rule. It’s not like they are any safer.

PlatinumZJ
PlatinumZJ
7 months ago
Reply to  ChrisGT

I regularly encounter a little old lady on her pink golf cart during my evening commute. She drives the thing on back country roads with no shoulder – meaning she’s pretty much in the middle of the lane. I’m very concerned that she’s going to be hit one of these days by a fast-moving truck popping up over a hill.

Brian Dumas
Brian Dumas
7 months ago

why I am not shocked, really seriously, a state which has a political death wish , and
hey I live in Arkansas and were supposed to be backward here but I’ve been treated
better and nicer than I ever was back in Connecticut.
I don’t even get this except maybe from a financial scam point of view here , whats the harm of these Kei class vehicles , they’re not blowing up and burning like those
electric transit buses are . whose gettting hurt . No one . As for Maine I don’t get that ,
at all.
OK, lets put forward a scenario here, suppose you live in Georgia and imported a
mint condition 1980 toyota FJ-40 land cruiser from Japan, a japan spec JDM land
cruisier with RHD and submitted your application in bugtussle co GA there to register
it , its the size of a current short wheelbase new Jeep Wrangler. are they gonna
deny ya on the grounds its a farm truck .
One of the two guys, on that famous show Mythbusters , has a RHD 40 series land
cruiser diesel and he lives in california and drives it there .
Obviously we need a federal lawsuit here, cause those hick courts in GA will cover
the bureaucrat dipsticks there tushes everytime .
This is why theres such a issue with government overreach into every area of life
making life impossible for the average guy or gal out there.

JMJR
JMJR
7 months ago

Regarding the embedded video of the crash test between the “mini-truck” and the Ranger, the mini-truck in question is a LHD 2008 Changan Tiger Star, which is not the same as the JDM mini-trucks gearheads love. First of all, it’s nowhere near 25 years old, so it couldn’t even be legally imported. Secondly, it’s LHD, so it’s going to be a lot worse for the driver in a small offset collision than a RHD mini-truck would be since the driver is on the opposite side of the vehicle in most small offset crashes. Finally, it’s a cheap Chinese knock off of the more desirable and better built Japanese trucks we’re actually interested in driving. Do the same test with a Honda Acty, Subaru Sambar or Mazda Scrum.

Brian Dumas
Brian Dumas
7 months ago
Reply to  JMJR

I’d agree , the build quality of a JDM vehicle would be genuinely superb and top notch , no
comparison to a chinese knock off .

UndifferentiatedDirt
UndifferentiatedDirt
7 months ago

I’ve imported a car from Japan myself and keep my ear to the ground on this kind of news. I think there’s two things happening here that’s getting enthusiasts caught in the crossfire.

  • I wouldn’t surprise me if after some digging we found the AAMVA is backed by producers of ATVs and Side-by-sides. Why buy one of those for $25k when you can get a Kei truck for less than $10k?
  • This is a key statement “It should be noted that a lot of these trucks weren’t older vehicles imported under the Imported Vehicle Safety Compliance Act of 1988, but newer trucks with speed limiters meant for farm or utility work.
  • There were dealers exploiting this loophole and importing Kei trucks far newer than 25 years. I believe some removed the limiters from the allowed farm trucks and I think some imported true JDM Kei trucks and just lied on the paperwork.

Not super upset with closing a loophole, but the way they’re going about it is terrible. They seem to be picking and choosing different existing statutes to base their position on, even if reading the entire statute creates a conflict with themselves. I think a big importer or group of importers needs to start taking the states to court. SEMA has a good start, but a legal challenge is different to passing a bill.

Frown Victoria
Frown Victoria
7 months ago

The 25 year rule is a frog in a pot and banning Kei cars is the stove on low heat

They want this exemption gone by the time bans or restrictions on ICE cars become more realistic

Last edited 7 months ago by Frown Victoria
UndifferentiatedDirt
UndifferentiatedDirt
7 months ago
Reply to  Frown Victoria

I don’t think there will ever be a hard ban on ICE cars that already exist. I think the lawmakers will just let it (or make it) so expensive to own that the average person can’t afford one. I’m envisioning seeing something in the future like your yearly registration having a $1500 pollution fee if you still drive an ICE car or something like that.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
7 months ago

“….your yearly registration having a $1500 pollution fee if you still drive an ICE car or something like that.”
Like many other countries have right now.
They have formulas where the displacement and the CO2 emissions add up to an annual fee that could be anywhere from 500 Euro to 4500 Euro (I don’t know what it costs in Yen or other countries – where road taxes have been a thing for decades)

Lucy Tycho
Lucy Tycho
7 months ago
Reply to  Frown Victoria

These make me furious but I’m not convinced this is the reason. After all, import bans apply to EVs too (even though there’s no emissions to fail an EPA regulation). There’s plenty of European EVs I would buy if only I could, personally. Bans like these have always been about manipulating the market to bring more profit to the manufacturers. They want to get rid of small cars completely to make more money on the large ones, especially (though not solely) with the profits they can draw on large EVs

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
7 months ago

America, where it’s illegal to drive around not surrounded by 5 tons of metal.

Manuel Verissimo
Manuel Verissimo
7 months ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

Something something but assault rifles are fine.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
7 months ago

Right?
Easy workaround: put your Kei in your Unimog and claim immunity under Concealed Carry!

Doctor Nine
Doctor Nine
7 months ago
Reply to  TOSSABL

This comment needs more likes…

Manuel Verissimo
Manuel Verissimo
7 months ago
Reply to  TOSSABL

“I have this S660 for my protection officer”

Sivad Nayrb
Sivad Nayrb
7 months ago

Assault rifles don’t exist.

JunkerDave
JunkerDave
7 months ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

And yet highly dangerous motorcycles are just fine! Which tells us, it’s not driver safety that’s what they’re concerned about.

Marathag
Marathag
7 months ago
Reply to  JunkerDave

Or 1960-70s cars that are mostly rust under the paint, because a 1973 Pinto that has lost 30% of it weight from bits rusting off, is completely safe as long it passes the minimum required items at the DOT, like working lights and windshield and mirrors

JunkerDave
JunkerDave
7 months ago
Reply to  Marathag

Georgia doesn’t seem to have safety inspections anyhow, just smog (but only for 1999 and newer). So your ’73 Pinto will be fine, until it’s totaled from being rear-ended by Torch’s Pao.

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